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@Edmund <br>I still stand by my opinion that Holkenborg scoring Avatar 2 could be pretty interesting. Pairing him up with a director who is known to be strict with his musical choices and continuing on from James Hornerís classic might produce something really good. And seeing his gradual progress as a composer with Mortal Engines and Alita have personally given me some hope (2 years ago I would have said hell no).<br><br>And Iím not surprised by the choice for T6. Not looking forward to this project at all but we did get a cool score from Balfe for the last one so maybe there is some hope for the music at least.I think Terminator is a decent match for JXL's talents (listen to "The March" from Divergent), but this feels like further evidence that James Cameron is grooming him for Avatar 2, which I really hope ends up not being the case.Yes, Tom will be scoring the new Terminator movieChill out Bayhem, if you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap.<br>But seeing people from his team ivolved and considering the fast and furious situation, I canít help but wondering if thereís some truth to that rumor.<br>Now for a guy talking about haters, saying that Lorne scores 36million projects and B movies (forgetting mission impossible) I think youíre pushing it a bit.<br>Anyway no hate I donít care who wrote it Iím just curious about the behind the scenes stuff.You're reaching there a bit Bayhem, I see no one in this thread trying to undermine Steve's work or the score. Hell the first poster was just asking if Lorne worked on it and if so, to what extent. And the "rumor comment" is a logical extension of Lorne's whole regular team being credited on the score, therefore it is possible that he did additional work on it.
Again a "rumor" comment that's trying to undermine Steve's work. And in this case, an entire score. Lorne fans, please stop trying to constantly undermine other composers in favor of your guy. It's childish and extremely disrespectful. You've done it multiple times on these boards. What's next? You gonna claim that Lorne secretly scored the entire Transformers franchise? And Lord of the Rings. And Harry Potter. <br><br>Seriously, it's getting really old, really fast. <br><br>Not to mention the fact that Steve, as a composer, is much, much more experienced and established than Lorne. He's got nothing to prove. Steve takes his time when it comes to scoring. He's choosing carefully. He's got more than enough time to focus on his projects. While Lorne's name is attached to 30 million different projects, some of them cheap B-movies like Hurricane Heist. And you think he's scoring them all by himself? The irony of it all is that if anyone is using ghostwriters most of the time, it's Lorne. Not Steve. And I'm saying that as a Lorne fan as well. I'm not just a Jablonsky fan. I appreciate Lorne's work as well. But I'm not undermining other composers in favor of him.Bay has Lorne scoring his films now cause they established a relationship on 13 Hours, and Bay didn't even want Lorne for that; he wanted Hans but he didn't want to go through the exhausting process of another Bay blockbuster so he brought in Lorne instead.<br>And even then, Hans still worked together with Lorne very closely on the project (Hybrid said he was there for all the meetings, helped with synth programming, etc)Of cause Balfe worked on it .That is why Bay now uses Balfeyou can absolutely hear the 13 hours temp track in Battlefield and We Have to GoNot to mention that Steve and Lorne structure their power anthems differently.<br>To me this score sounds like 100% Steve
I wouldn't say so, Lorne stacks his ostinatos and rhythms on top of each other (see Blackwood, Last Man on the Moon) and shotguns piano writing all over his scores in addition to using it for almost any kind of emotional scene (see Manny, Duck Shoot, Brothers Theme from Hurricane Heist)Well, if all we're using to distinguish Lorne is ostinatos and piano writing, then in that case, he's all over this film!The interesting thing is, that if Lorne did work on it, his work is indistinguishable from Steve's cause I hear none of his ostinatos or extensive piano writing.@Hybrid, a while ago I saw a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap.<br>But looking at the credits I see some people from his team have been involved( his assistant Queenie Li as music coordinator, and Max Aruj and Steffen Thum did arrangements..)<br>Do you know why and to which extent he was involved or why his team worked on the score?This little gem of a score is one of my favourites of Lorne's smaller projects.<br>Got a great main theme and varying instrumentations of it throughout, plus he's using a real orchestra which is always good. (Check out The Heist, very upbeat jazzy piece)
Balfe - for anything than bad TV? How much did you smoke tonight? The Mission score must have been a studio decision but Balfe should not be allowed anywhere near a (any) franchise - the dude is a headcase and a total copycat. Tell me one piece that Balfe did that is original?Balfe - for anything than bad TV? How much did you smoke tonight? The Mission score must have been a studio decision but Balfe should not be allowed anywhere near a (any) franchise - the dude is a headcase and a total copycat. Tell me one piece that Balfe did that is original?Looking forward to what Ben's going to do with that movie.Hellboy coming by Sony Classical at 4/5/19Kung Fu Fighting (Celebration Time) on KFP3 also has a HZ credit despite again the booklet not crediting him for anything on it.
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Hans ZimmerKlaus BadeltHeitor PereiraMartin Tillman
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The Pledge
Label: Milan Records
Length: 40'18
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Barbara reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-10 10:17:44
This is a superb DVD! For a ivnlioist, Frank Peter Zimmermann represents the highest level of musicianship. The Documentary is not just about Bach, in fact it has lots of other footage, including his son and his own performance of the Sibelius Violin Concerto with the Danish Radio Symphony (this is excellent). He plays like Kogan, not surprisingly and his technique is as flawless as any ivnlioist I have seen or heard.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2004-12-01 00:00:00
Hans Zimmer and Klaus Badelt also worked together on various works including the GLADIATOR and INVINCIBLE soundtracks, but don't expect to listen to anything similar, in the score for THE PLEDGE.

Unlike the last few Zimmer scores, which were vast, dramatic, intense and epic, THE PLEDGE, is built on a more down-beat atmosphere (and thatís of course due to the nature of the movie) The score opens with a beautiful and haunting melody sang by a woman and repeated by a violin.
Track02 contains several percussion beats and creates a scary atmosphere. Parts like this can be found a lot in the score -- where percussion, electronic sounds and effects, scary voices, piano, violin, the female voice and mandolin create a creepy atmosphere, like track04, track05, track09, track12, track13, track15.
In track03, the main theme makes its first appearance. It consists of guitar, mandolin, violin and piano and can be heard several times in the film, sometimes in different versions - the main instrument could be piano in one, violin or guitar in other (track07, track08 (more upbeat and fast, played by beautiful guitar), track11, track15).
The score also has a piano theme that can be firstly heard in track06 and repeats itself several times during the film (like in track10). It has a sad and lovely tune, a real treat for the ears!
In track 12 we have the beautiful female voice again in another haunting melody that features great atmosphere, feeling and depth.
Track14 is a combination of all the themes and great parts of the entire score. It consists of the female voice, vastly beautiful and sad piano melodies and the violin for escort-- probably the best track in this album and some of Zimmer's greatest works up-to-date.
Track16, which closes the film, is also a combination of several themes and parts of the film. It starts with the piano theme (heard in track06 and track10) and goes on with haunting and scary electronic effects and sounds created by percussion, guitar, mandolin and creepy violin. Then the piano theme is played by violin this time and makes a great difference. The track, (at about 3 minutes of play), gets loud, creepy and scary-- then calms down and ends with a more intense variation of track 14, played by violin (as the main instrument) piano, mandolin, guitars and loud percussion, providing the score (and film) with a more up-beat ending.

The entire score is a great work, which has lovely melodies and themes for easy listening. All these create a sad and sometimes creepy atmosphere that fits perfect in the theme and subject of the film. THE PLEDGE is not your typical Hans Zimmer or Klaus Badelt score for sure, with the great choir themes, loud brass and dramatic, epic atmosphere and feeling. It's just lovely, sad and hauntingly beautiful - quality music for all the music and movie lovers, and -of course- Zimmer followers.

Demetris Christodoulides

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