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WaterTower music will most definitely release a physical disc. willing to bet there will be a deluxe version as well, a la MoS BvS and Aquaman. could be wrong though. the only reason it says this is a digital download is because thatís the single Themyscira.CD or download only?I would love it if it is really 5 minutes per track. I love tracks that are at least 4 minutes long. <br><br>But more likely, the last main action tracks would crack 10 mins long.85 minutes for normal album is more than enough for me. I'm not really into long tracks or super-extended suites. If it puts on album it's great, but not necessary for me. And I don't mention dluxe or expanded albums by the way, that's another cases.So 85 minutes for 17 tracks is an average of 5 minutes per track.... seems a little long, so maybe weíll get a few long form suites??
Agree. 2020 is rough for us.youíre right. didnít consider 85 min is actually a good length especially when looking at how short other releases are these days. in 2020 weíre very lucky to be getting it at all.Yeah, but consider most of the real good HZ albums are way shorter than 85 minutes. SO we're lucky with that one.BVS is 90 and interstellar is 1 hr 40 min :PIf 85 minutes of music is short...
Almost one and a half hours of music is short?thatís it? kinda short. being a zimmer score will there be a deluxe version with additional tracks?All I know is that the album is gonna be 17 tracks, 1h25 !nothing is known yet? In some countries it opens in mid-DecemberOne of this score's best and most underrated moments, especially in the context of the film, is the introduction of the Kraken's theme in "Row to Tia Dalma". The tense buildup while Gibbs describes the creature's horrors, then the brief pause as he names it, followed by the theme in the absolute lowest registers of the orchestra, quiet, but so so so menacing and also just SUPER FUCKING COOL.<br><br>It gives me goosebumps every time, in a *dialogue scene*. That is incredibly good musical storytelling.
Edmund: And posted their one-sentence review of it on the Hans Zimmer fan site.Anything missed from the official release?oh damn really? huh that would be cool. even with the ultimate edition thereís still deleted scenes and I wish they were put on the Blu ray.<br><br>it plays during the scene after the knightmare when Clark is looking through the polaroids that say judge jury executioner on them. i donít remember if thatís an extended scene or not as Iíve only seen the theatrical cut once in theaters. one and done lol"Chicken Run really makes you FEEL like you're in a concentration camp." - IGNI guess it comes from a deleted scene where Jesse Eisenberg gets playful with his dinner. Rumor has it it's gonna be included in the Snyder Cut.

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Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2020-07-24 09:13:33
Top Gun in 2021.

John G. reply Replies: 7 || 2020-02-16 01:31:19
Just came back from Mazzaroís website. Why didnít they include the extended versions of some of the tracks? Not to mention an entirely unreleased track.

This is the closest weíll get to having an ďoriginalĒ album by Zimmer and his team. Darn...

Paul2020-02-16 04:24:09
Anybody who heard from Steve Mazzaro's website to listen by The Rhythm Section with soundtrack, it's ain't not bad at all.

MrZimmerFan2020-02-16 09:42:58
Man, i wan that score

MrZimmerFan2020-02-16 19:22:46
Well, Steve, about the score, says he still working on it.

I can't wait.

Cynical Makooti2020-02-16 20:38:41
Those files are just sitting there.


Taunting me.

Anonymous2020-02-17 10:40:17
You realize there is a very easy and free method to get the music from that site, dont you?

paulus2020-02-17 13:30:06

FaresTdkr2020-02-17 16:17:31
well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon

int reply Replies: 3 || 2020-02-14 23:06:24
There's a different 11 minute version of X-X (Gap theme) on Steve Mazzaro's website. Also longer version of X-TX. I guess it's Mr Mazarro we need to thank for the most memorable tune of this score.

Hybrid Soldier2020-02-15 01:05:59
Oh because you think they expand suites based on... nothing ? lol

It was like on Pirates 2/3, Lorne wrote a shitload of theme suites... of not his themes ! ;)

Mr.Unbreakable2020-02-15 01:22:51
Then there is unpublished Lorne material waiting to be heard? Hybrid could you do your magic and get those suites?

Mr.Unbreakable2020-02-15 01:23:30
Then there is unpublished Lorne material waiting to be heard? Hybrid could you do your magic and get those suites?

John G. reply Replies: 0 || 2020-02-16 01:50:10
Seriously, the complete score needs to come out. We NEED those Mazzaro suites on our devices!

Knight reply Replies: 0 || 2020-02-14 23:50:00
Hmmm... The cuesheet lists Space Scene as just Hans and Dave but the spotify credit has Mazzaro as well. Hybrid do you know which is correct?

isildur reply Replies: 50 || 2020-01-07 05:37:20

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Mephariel2020-01-07 06:46:49
I don't know about this. If this was Zimmer from the start, then maybe. But as it is, I just feel like this will a hack-it-with-a-hammer type job.

I am excited, but I don't have any high expectations.

Mephariel2020-01-07 06:50:38
So is Zimmer officially off Spongebob? I haven't heard a thing about Spongebob and recent sources never mention that movie. Film music reporter doesn't have it listed.

Powellfan2020-01-07 07:49:38
Why would he take on something like this if he's so busy and it's this late? Just to be able to say that he did a Bond score?

px2020-01-07 07:50:08
Feel sorry for Dan Romer but honestly listen to his stuff... he really had to impress to keep this gig and it looks like he was found out of his depth. Hopefully he'll get another chance.

Really excited to hear what Hans can do with Bond.

Anonymous2020-01-07 08:17:47
blame eon or Barbara. nobody knows who Dan Romer is. no name recognition. I am not saying heís not talented but honestly when has a composer with zero name recognition scoring a single film in a franchise worked out?

Andreas2020-01-07 08:40:01
Kind of dissapointed Dan Romer didnít deliver, was really looking forward to his Bond score. Maniac was one of my favourite scores of 2018 and really like his other work. Maybe his style wasnít indeed the right fit for a film like this. Zimmer scoring No Time Do Die doensít really get me that hyped for what probably will be a team effort by RCP.

Shince Thomas 2020-01-07 11:49:14
This makes me wonder why Hans said no to Tenet and then said yes to No Time To Die.

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-07 12:35:56
Because as I said, Tenet was never about scheduling conflict...

And Hans definitely didn't start Bond just now, but more like more than a month ago. And about being "busy", WW84 & Top Gun are finished or about to be.

Johnny2020-01-07 12:47:47
@Anonymous Nicholas Hooper for example. He took over the job of John Williams and Patrick Doyle and composed the music for Harry Potter 5 and 6.

@Shince Thomas Indeed, this surprises me as well. I hope Chris doesn't feel fooled.

mpolonest123 2020-01-07 13:44:31
Really can say I didnít see this coming. Hell, I expected Balfe to get it before Hans. Now hereís to hoping he delivers an amazing score.

Iím super curious as to why he really didnít take on Tenet, I hope it has nothing to do with Dunkirk being as stressful as it was.

Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-07 14:47:27
I think Zimmer could have composed Tenet without problems (with Balfe and Wesson). I don't think Nolan calls Zimmer again ...

Ahmad2020-01-07 15:08:58
Iím so excited because Iíll soon find out what would a Zimmer Bond score sound like :D

About TENET. It seems like an artistic divorce which is sad but not the end of the world lol. After DUNKIRK, itís clear that Nolan is VERY involved in the scoring process and TENET seems to be going in the sane direction as TDK trilogy, INCEPTION and DUNKIRK. Mixing electronics and orchestral elements. Having distinctive and simple themes and simultaneously relying on single sounds or sound design elements to serve the moment and provide tension. I think even Zimmer fans would be satisfied with it - if they donít hold a grudge against Ludwig.

If course Iím only judging by the teaser and the 5 minute cue featured in the prologue.

Anyway, weíll get a new Zimmer score in less than four months! How exciting!!!

Ahmad2020-01-07 15:11:04
Forgot to add: I hope their work relationship hasnít affected their friendship, since they seemed to be very good friends. This is a proper divorce lol.

BC2020-01-07 15:41:30
I'm really excited about this, but I'm worrying that Hans is juggling too much. The Variety article I read during break earlier said that the score pretty much needed to be done by the end of February. That gives Hans and team about 7 weeks to get it done.

Either the crunch is going to make something super special, or it might just be okay. Overall, just happy that Hans has so much material releasing this year.

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-07 17:09:55
BC, read what I wrote...

Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-07 18:45:06
Hybrid, I know Lorne is not working on Top gun and Dune. Do you know if he works in Bond?

Mephariel2020-01-07 19:32:12
We should have a contest speculating who will be working on Bond.

I think Fleming and Mazzaro for sure right? I thinking Wallfisch and Balfe and maybe Zanelli?

Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-07 19:59:49
I think there will be Fleming, Mazzaro and maybe Kawczynski. Although I would like to see a team with Lorne, Wallfisch and Wesson.

anon2020-01-07 21:16:31

Do you know anything about why they weren't happy with Romer's score? Why did they not go for Hans or a big name composer to begin with?

Oscarilbo2020-01-07 21:54:52
So hybrid, without any more details.. are Nolan and Zimmer in good terms right now, as usual?

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-07 22:15:56
Well I happened to be around RCP when Hans was finishing Dunkirk just before the 2017 tour. And it was tough (Nolan wasn't there in the studio, he was working from Warner studios), to me it came with no surprise that they wouldn't do the next one together. I think a break was needed. I'm sure they'll work again. And it has nothing to do with "personal relationship", Hans loved Tony Scott and is still in touch with Ridley Scott regularly, but they just moved on working together.

You can be good friend with someone and don't want to work together !

Oscarilbo2020-01-07 22:23:35
Thank you man. That's all I wanted to hear, and I'm glad they are both fine.

Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-07 22:33:26
We assume that Mazzaro will be, but, and Lorne? Hybrid, I would like to know what you think.

Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-07 22:38:56
We assume that Mazzaro will be, but, and Lorne? Hybrid, I would like to know what you think.

Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-07 22:39:27
Regarding Nolan / Hans seeing how Nolan treats his collaborators, I see it difficult for Hans to return. But they tell you Wally Pfister (I think Nolan is going to be captivated by the sound of GŲransson).

FaresTdkr2020-01-08 21:40:18
Well I'm sure Hans will do a great job on this project its a great way to start a new decade..Like Gladiator, Inception...i think Balf will be involved..

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-08 22:24:12
Lorne told me he's not part of it but... well, it's Lorne, you never really know... :)

Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-08 22:32:46
Hybrid do you know who accompanies Hans?

Sonnenfeld2020-01-09 02:46:48
Is it true that someone from Remote Control will be scoring Leigh Whannell's Invisible Man?

Scorefan2020-01-09 05:33:20
As @Hybrid said before, Hans is working on Bond since 1 month ago. The rumors about Romer is out from the movie are from 1 month ago. The critics about Zimmer on Bond is like another composer on Star Wars films. Many fans (many are toxics) want what they wish. On Bond, they criticized George Martin, Marvin Hamlisch, Bill Conti, Eric Serra, David Arnold and Tomas Newman. The critic was they were not John Barry. So in this case, the same with Hans. I can imagine if Hans will score one Star Wars film. That, for sure, would explode the internet.

Iamtommie442020-01-09 13:50:21
@Scorefan. I agree with you. If a franchise has been running as long as Star Wars or James Bond people have a certain expectation about the music. With Star Wars that's big and orchestral in the style of John Williams. Both Giacchino & Powell delivered scores in the same vein as this and those scores are both spectacular. Then The Mandalorian came along an GŲransson was announced as composer, and people started to get worried. When the music finally came out, people were mad and all sorts of things because it didn't sound like Williams. Now for me the score of The Mandalorian has grown on me quite a lot en I think it works perfectly in the series. Because it's more grittier than the movies.

Now with James Bond, the same thing happend. John Barry was Mr. Bond in music. Than Martin came along and people were dissapointed. With Hamlish people thought it was a bit strange en even Barry got some critisism about his Living Daylights score. When Eric Serra scored Goldeneye and the album was released a lot of people were just angry because it was so different from Barry.
Then Arnold happened. He, in a lot of ways, brought back the Bond sound in a lot of ways. But people didn't like some of the heavy use of electronics in TWINE or DAD.
When Thomas Newman came along, it was the same. Too little Bond, too much Newman.
I myself quite like Newman's two scores, but that's neither here or there.

Now when Romer was announced as composer for NTTD people were exited but scared as well. He wasn't well known and never scored a big action movie.

Now that Zimmer is announced as composer people are exited and scared for the reason that Zimmer is great at action writing as well as the emotional parts, but does his 'sound' fit in the Bond Universe?

Now, I am exited for a Zimmer style Bond score, with a great rendition of the classic theme. A new action motif and a theme for one of the 3 Bond girls.

And as for that he might not have 'enough time'. There are scores that have been written in 4 weeks or less and which are great. Listen to King Kong for example.

I'm very exited and lets just wait and see (listen) what Mr. Zimmer comes up with. I have a lot of confidence it will be great!

Edmund Meinerts2020-01-09 18:25:03
^ Agree with pretty much everything you just said. Expectations can be a tricky thing in a long-running franchise. Generally speaking my rule of thumb in situations like that is "don't fix what isn't broken UNLESS you've got something really good to replace it with". I'm not against shaking things up on principle but generally speaking, a franchise will have an established sound because that sound is proven to be successful and good, so the odds of improving on that are pretty slim, and generally I find most "modernizations" of that type to be inferior to what went before. (I prefer the "update" approach, like what David Arnold brought to Bond - still big and brassy and jazzy but with the heavy electronics added as well).

I also think you can radically change the sound of a franchise but still stay loyal to its themes, and I wish composers would dare to do that more often...I actually quite liked (some of) GŲransson's music for The Mandalorian, but think it would have been even better if he slipped in some Williams theme cameos - but filtered through that gritty-space-western sound rather than in a grand orchestral way. Disney owns the whole world so surely it's not a question of rights.

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-09 18:47:44
Don't put Giacchino & Powell on the same level for Star Wars.

Cause John Williams hated what Giacchino did and loved what John did... lol

mpolonest123 2020-01-09 18:52:41
I think you hit the nail on the head. There isnít really a need to completely abandon/stick to a franchises musical heritage if you can improve on what already exists and actually evolve the music.

The Mandalorian works because it serves as world building in a musical form, although I still think there are a number of scenes that could have worked great with Williamsí style, not necessarily his themes. I imagine Bond will be a mixture of Zimmerís sound and action writing, with the Barry/Arnold style throughout. At least that is what Iím hoping for...

mpolonest123 2020-01-09 18:54:52
LOL really?

Iím not a huge fan of Rogue One personally but I still found parts which I thought worked well (Jynís theme in particular). I wonder what exactly Williams hated about it?

Edmund Meinerts2020-01-09 19:03:00
There are definitely parts of Rogue One that sound kinda like a music student trying to be John Williams (unlike Solo, which is basically a Powell score with Williams "spice"). I only have a little technical music knowledge but even I notice it sometimes when Giacchino does things that are just...awkward, somehow. Not quite right. It happens to Giacchino quite a lot because I feel like he always reaching for a Williams/Goldsmith/Horner level of complexity but he just doesn't have the same elegance as those masters. I'd imagine to someone with Williams' level of knowledge - who would be able to pinpoint exactly what he's doing wrong - it would be even more grating.

I like Giacchino as a composer and I think Rogue One is a pretty decent score given the circumstances, but that is his biggest flaw for me - he's trying to fill shoes that are bigger than his feet rather than just wearing ones that fit.

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-09 21:03:40
Yes that's true ! :)

mpolonest123 2020-01-09 21:37:34
Ok that does make sense, I remember watching the film and being put off by the music in certain scenes. Something just didnít feel right. Itís funny considering how well he captured Williamsí style in the MoH games.
This also makes me wonder if Williams has any opinion on the Potter scores that followed his three.

And Giacchino definitely sounds best when he is sticking to his signature style. Jupiter Ascending, Up, Incredibles, etc. all are great examples.

Scorefan2020-01-10 02:02:59
@Hybrid, What kind of opinion has Williams about Giacchino's score?
It's something that involves the replacement of Alexandre Desplat for Giacchino after the reshoots? Or it's just how the music sounds, Williams thinks Giacchino try to emulate his sound?

Powellfan2020-01-10 07:03:33
Any specific moments in Rogue One's score you can pick out that are a little off or awkward?

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-10 09:57:47
From what I heard, Williams is very "protective" of Star Wars and was not happy he was not even asked to do Rogue One, or be involved with it. Well, donít get me wrong, if he was asked, he would probably not have done it anyway. And he just didnít like the result of Giacchinoís final score. Which was heartbreaking for Giacchino obviously to hear of such a feedback.

So for Solo, they went for Williams first, Powell had to have an interview with Williams to discuss about the approach etc.

rockound2020-01-10 10:08:11
Rogue One is my favourite score of all the new films. Right after that comes Solo. A bit strange, that Williams doesn't like Rogue One, and not just because he wasn't involved.

Edmund Meinerts2020-01-10 13:04:30
@Powellfan there are two moments that stand out for me in that respect, both involving the use of Williams music ironically. First, the title card (at the end of "A Long Road Ahead"), where he acts like he's going into the Star Wars main theme and then instead plays his own Hope theme which just sounds cheesy and childishly simple in comparison. It really pulls the rug out from under you as a listener and not in a good way. Secondly there's the Force theme statement at 0:40 of "Trust Goes Both Ways", especially the way he ends the second phrase is just...messed up, somehow. The notes are emphasized all wrong (that phrase is meant to "land" on the final note but the way Giacchino arranges it makes it seem like the second-to last note, the highest, is the most important) and the harmonies are clunky. He does the same thing at the end of "Hope" which is a shame because otherwise I really like that cue.

I'm not against composers playing around with other composers' themes AT ALL (Powell did some brilliant stuff with the Williams material in Solo) but it has to come from a place of understanding why those themes worked the way they did in the first place, and I don't think Giacchino quite got it with Rogue One.

NM2020-01-10 13:43:00
Good examples Edmund. Especially that first one. Even my friends who are not into film music laughed at that cue. It's embarrassing.

BC2020-01-10 14:07:56

Oops! I was browsing this during a break at work and missed that last part. Now that I know Hans has been working on this for awhile I'm even more excited. I'm really excited to see just what kind of tone and sounds he plans on using for the movie, and I hope that he releases an experiments disk like on Dark Phoenix for the scores releasing this year.

As for Giacchino, I'm kind of mixed on his work. I really enjoyed his scores for both Incredibles films as well as the recent Star Trek trilogy, but other scores like Rogue One and the Jurassic World are lukewarm for me. Ironically, both of those are Williams scores, and as Edmund pointed out, it seems to be because he's trying to copy Williams sound and technique and failing at it hard at points. One of my biggest criticisms of his work even before he did Star Wars and Jurassic World was that he seemed to be a wannabe Williams, and it would be nice to see him do something more along the lines of Jupiter Ascending, where I could feel a little more of him in the music.

HunterTech2020-01-10 23:36:32
I'd actually be quite curious if NTTD got many suites, considering the very last minute nature of it. Stuff like Xperiments stemmed from the amount of time he was able to work on the score and being able to refine his ideas. Sure, he'll likely have some suites, but maybe not to the extent of his previous projects. We'll just have to see.

Powellfan2020-01-12 04:32:35
@Edmund I see what you mean. Those statements of the Force theme are not good. I get what he was trying to do, and changing up the timing and emphasis of a theme is something that's done a fair bit in film scores for transitions and what have you, but here it's very clunky. I have to assume that the time constraints is why that was kept the way it is instead of figuring out a better version of what he was attempting.

Williams wasn't asked to do Rogue One? Interesting to hear that some genuine negative feedback reached Giacchino given how Williams always seems so... discreet?... Diplomatic? You know what I mean.

DvirBA2020-02-14 14:35:04
Thanks Hybrid for making sense in the whole Tenet thing, I never believed it was a scheduling conflict.
I wish Nolan would have chosen to work with Djawadi though. Game of Thrones might be the best non-Hans Zimmer score Iv'e heard and Ramin's collaborations with Chris Nolan's brother Jonathan in Westworld and Person of Interest are amazing. I always though he'll be next in line if not Zimmer, since Chris and Jonah are so close, and since Djawadi is extremely apt.
Do you think we might see them ever collaborating? Perhaps when Chris will do another movie with Jonah? Or is it not the type of things Djawadi is working on these days

Mr.Unbreakable2020-02-14 15:25:13
If everything goes well on Tenet, Nolan will not separate from GŲransson.

Backbiter2020-02-14 16:14:30
"I get what he was trying to do, and changing up the timing and emphasis of a theme is something that's done a fair bit in film scores for transitions and what have you, but here it's very clunky."

It didn't felt clunky dude, it felt MCCLUNKY!!!!

Anon reply Replies: 8 || 2020-01-13 22:36:26
Official press release from EON on Zimmer:

"Producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli confirmed today that composer Hans Zimmer will score the latest 007 adventure, No Time To Die. ďItís a dream come true to be working with the legendary composer Hans Zimmer on our twenty- fifth James Bond film, No Time To Die,Ē said producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. While director Cary Joji Fukunaga echoed their statement, ďIím beyond excited that Hans is scoring No Time To Die. The music of Bond has always been iconic and Iíve already witnessed Hans adding his touch of genius to the Bond legacy."

anonymous2020-01-17 17:12:41
Johnny Marr has been confirmed to be performing on the score...

Is there going to be a separate discussion thread for this btw?

Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-17 17:36:15
I can't say that I am happy. I love Marr, but I don't want Marr in Lorne's position. #BalfeforBond

Edmund Meinerts2020-01-17 20:08:51
Marr is probably performing the James Bond know, on the electric guitar? Which is the instrument he's famous for?

Jesus, I swear there are some people who won't be happy until Lorne Balfe is singlehandedly both composing and performing the score to every film that is ever made.

Macejko2020-01-17 21:06:55
If some time down line it gets revealed that all of these Lornanists were on someoneís payroll, you heard it here first.

Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-17 22:17:41
Journalists say he will act as a composer.

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-17 22:40:50
The same "journalists" who said Hans was hired a week ago ?


Mr.Unbreakable2020-01-17 23:53:19
I have made a mistake.Although you should have more mercy with people.

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-18 00:06:16

Mephariel reply Replies: 3 || 2020-01-10 07:04:54
Of all the Zimmer scores in 2020, which one excites you the most?

For me:

1. Dune
2. WW84
3. No Time to Die
4. Top Gun: Maverick
5. Spongebob

BC2020-01-10 14:13:03
It's a hard 2 way tie between Dune and No Time to Die. While I know there's going to be pleasant surprises, I kind of feel like I have a general idea of what it will sound like for the most part. I have zero interest in Spongebob, and I'm doing a wait and see for Top Gun. I'm not NOT looking forward to it, but it ranks above Spongebob.

Dune will probably take the cake because of the story and setting. A big sci-fi film like that will be really interesting, and I'm wondering if we might get a little of the Blade Runner feel to it. And No Time to Die is just a huge question mark. Will he lean more towards the general feel of the previous Bond scores, or will he completely go a separate way and just retain the iconic theme? I'd personally love it if he did a Dark Phoenix and completely reimagined the Bond theme, but the Broccoli producers will likely not be down for that.

BC2020-01-10 14:14:44
While I know there's going to be pleasant surprises, I kind of feel like I have a general idea of what Wonder Woman will sound like for the most part.

mpolonest123 2020-01-11 02:40:32
No Time To Die by a huge landslide, if only because I have no idea how this is going to sound. If Zimmer goes full on Bond mode this could be one of his best scores in recent years, if not the results will more than likely still be interesting.

All of the others are tied for me honestly, I feel like this might be one of the most diverse group of projects he has tackled in recent years. WW84 and Top Gun will probably lean towards the signature 80ís sound, Spongebob will definitely be Ďanimated Zimmerí, and Dune will probably be more atmospheric and rely heavily on sound design.

Sonnenfeld reply Replies: 2 || 2020-01-10 14:40:57
Is it true that someone from RCP will be scoring Leigh Whannell's The Invisible Man??

Hybrid Soldier2020-01-10 22:59:31
How many times do you intend to ask that ? lol

Sonnenfeld2020-01-11 00:23:54
It got lost in the other topic, didn't know who you were answering to, LOL

But anyway... is there any reason why it's being kept in the dark? Movie comes out like next month... it's not being rushed, is it?

Mephariel reply Replies: 0 || 2020-01-07 23:55:19
From Variety:

"Zimmer has his hands full in 2020 with the scores for Wonder Woman 1984, Top Gun: Maverick, Dune, and The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge on the Run, and heís also on tap to score Space Jam 2."

So is SJ2 confirmed or Variety just got this from IMDB?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2020-01-07 21:28:21
I don't have much info to be honest since Hans & co have been silent since day one (NDA, people, NDA...). But I understood Bond became RCP (and 99% sure Hans was in) a little more than a month ago.

As for Romer (and I love his score for Beasts Of No Nation), he simply was Fukunaga's composer. I guess it just didn't work out. Steve Mazzaro (produced by Hans) replaced a score for The Rhythm Section produced by... EON (Bond)...

MrZimmerFan2020-01-07 21:50:28
Btw, The Rhythm Section has going to get a release by Paramount Music

mpolonest123 2020-01-07 21:58:49
Listening to portions of Megamind (Black Mamba, Game Over) I can definitely hear Zimmer (and Lorne if he is attached as well) capturing the sound of Bond really well. And Iím sure there will be electronics, even Arnold utilized them consistently throughout his scores.

Iím cautiously optimistic about this project, if Zimmer stays true to the ďBond SoundĒ and can avoid what Thomas Newman did I think this might be a pretty cool score.

megamind2020-01-07 22:34:03
Megamind has a lot of Bond parody material. I know everyone here thinks Balfe did all of it but I think there's a heavy Zimmer hand in the mix.

Jakob Wohn reply Replies: 0 || 2019-10-17 00:13:36
Sehr geehrte Hans Zimmer, und Ihre komplette Gruppe, Ihr seid bestimmt nicht von dieses Weld. Ich kann einfach anders meine Begeisterung nicht besser beschreiben. Ein tausend mal danke fŁr ein bombastische CD, bitte nur noch es auf Hi-Res Audio Format zu VerfŁgung auf irgendwelche Musik Platform beibringen. Im voraus danke! LG, Jakob.

SPECTER reply Replies: 0 || 2019-10-03 03:29:08
I like that new X-Men theme. It had to grow on me, but I like it a lot now. I think a little bit of Crimson Tide style male choir could have been added to this theme/score for good effect. Theme is excellent as is though.

Plankton1997 reply Replies: 2 || 2019-09-30 21:43:21
I can't find this one on Google Play Music. Would like to purchase it, but I can't. It might have something to do with the fact that I live in the Netherlands, but does someone know why I can't find it?

Paul2019-09-30 21:48:08
It is on spotify. Also in the netherlands

Ds2019-10-01 10:07:01
Sometimes in some countries some platforms don't have some albums. Either they dont have the rights, or they were not sent the files in the first place...

Stargazer_21 reply Replies: 1 || 2019-09-19 06:47:11
Everything is great, except one thing - he did not add that intense music that played on the train when there was a battle. Well maybe I missed something while listening the album.

Stargazer_212019-09-19 06:57:04
But maybe at that time he didnít have that version yet (in his mind i mean)
But... the intensity was crazy!

Mr.Unbreakable reply Replies: 2 || 2019-09-17 19:46:09
Lately I have been listening to the album carefully, and the truth is that I did not quite understand why Hans did not just use a big orchestra instead of the synthesizer.

Edmund Meinerts2019-09-18 15:56:01
...because that's what Hans does

Knight2019-09-18 16:14:41
The synth man creating a mostly synthesizer score? what a shock

nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2019-09-07 00:57:29
all my love for Loire Cotler and what she does. i am glad she was the inspiration the vocal rhythms. but after listening for a while, i realized that Hans Zimmer and co. took her art to another level. and i would like to see her do the same with her own production.

i like the more subtle, the more in tune with the tone and the rhythm, the more in sync with the sound design. all that which brings out the art she wishes to impart.

her eastern indian rhythm gets boring after a few minutes for me and i am very sorry that i can't connect with it for a much long time... but the way i see it used in DP is different. totally novel. totally transformed.

she is probably not reading this message board, but who knows? i love what she did on DP and just getting it out there. i would get anything she does that sounds like this.

Mephariel reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-17 19:51:44
I am still surprised that "X-SS" isn't inserted into "Gap." That is easily the best iteration of the main theme.

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2019-08-05 19:23:18
My goodness, 1:30-2:35 in "X-MT" is quality. Reminds me of The Rock.

fabian2019-08-05 20:46:36
True.. love that part too (sounds also like some of Hans Call of Duty tracks)! This rythm style and theme could be from the 90s, which sadly never will really re-appear. At least those classic Media Ventures drums appeared in the Lion King :)
They should really dig out some of those old synth samples.

John G reply Replies: 5 || 2019-08-01 19:54:01
So in most of the tracks, you can hear many people (most likely the cast and crew) speaking. I think I heard Hans himself speak in one of those weird cuts of their conversations...

Hybrid Soldier2019-08-01 20:20:27
Yeah Andy Page produced & edited that album, apparently he had a lot of fun remixing all those various voices & solo recordings... lol

badbu2019-08-01 20:30:02
@hybrid haha sounds nice :D what u think about that score? :-)

Mcbain2019-08-03 07:39:12
Random question, Hybrid, do you know if Andy Page still produces solo electronic music?
(Xperiments is a stunning release btw, I've enjoyed it much more than the official soundtrack)

Hybrid Soldier2019-08-03 10:03:15
Honestly no idea.

Andy's very nice, Hans keeps him busy (another guy, after JXL, Hans stole to HGW ! :P).

Mcbain2019-08-05 19:32:18
Haha, yeah and I suppose Harry got to meet Andy through Hybrid, the electronic band. I look forward to him being a more prominent part of Hans's upcoming projects. He's a very talented musician and producer.

nvictor reply Replies: 7 || 2019-08-04 22:38:17
you know what makes me happy most? to see all these people who criticized the original release be all over the experimental release for some reason...

since that's what it takes, can we start a petition to release all the unheard music from dunkirk too? :) we really can't be few in numbers who love that soundtrack!

Der Profl2019-08-05 00:16:21
Oh, yeah, I love the Dunkirk soundtrack. It's such a cool suspensful atmosphere. Very inspiring if I want to write on my mystery novel.

Do I remember correctly that Hans wrote some melodic pieces for Dunkirk in the first place, before Nolan was like, no, I want like atmospheric sounds with the ticking of my watch in it? Or is it like a dream I had? I don't know. But that would be pretty neat to hear.

I would like to hear so many experimental second soundtracks for so many films Hans worked on. And if he doesn't want to do this for some older projects, he should probably do it for some of his upcoming work like Dune or Wonder Woman 2. It would be pretty neat to hear some wild and experimantel remixes on the themes he will write for these movies which didn't make it into the movie. Or like experiment with other genres like doing some really fancy EDM Club Soundtrack as a second release for like Dune to which we all can dance to (if we want). Or like make a really sad and quiet ambient piece out of the Wonder Woman theme. The possibilities are endless and I am so down for it.

Ahmad2019-08-05 01:15:34
Right? If Hans had released Xperiments (a suite album) instead of the OST, people would be crying for the film versions :D
It's a miracle we got both.

And I totally agree about Dunkirk. That score deserves an extended release with film versions but it seems like it'll never happen. And according to interviews and album notes, Hans always started a long tempo map that consisted of ticking, heartbeats, footsteps sounds, etc...

Someone also asked him about the "orchestral score" that was scrapped and as I understand it was about one character in particular and that material kind of got used somehow in the score anyway but was used differently.

Mike2019-08-05 04:06:20
"Someone asked him..." Hi. That was me. lol. I didn't know if I'd get an answer, but I was grateful he answered the question. He said it was basically the same score. So I don't think we're missing out too much.

Der Profl2019-08-05 04:28:24
Oh, now I'm curious about which character in particular had to get an orchestral theme. And wait, what is the orchestral theme now? Is it slow-mo-Nimrod? The Home Theme? Now I want a second suite album for Dunkirk.

Der Profl2019-08-05 04:30:33
Wait. I just realised, that the already existing Dunkirk soundtrack is like a suite album...

Nevertheless I want a second album. Dunkirk was sooo good.

Mike2019-08-05 06:07:52
I asked 2 questions, one about Nimrod in that version of the score and one about the score itself. And he said Nimrod was always in there. So I don't think the "more orchestral" stuff was Nimrod. He didn't say which character, but based on the movie and which character would make sense with a more traditional sound, I imagine it might have been the civilian boat group. Mark Rylance's character, one of the boys, or the Cillian Murphy soldier. He just said "one of the characters," so I don't think it was the main protagonist.

Ahmad2019-08-05 13:48:46
Oh, hi Mike :D I personally have so many questions about Dunkirk so I'm glad you asked Hans about the score and I'm glad he answered.

If I had to guess, I'd say it might be about George. That theme at the end of "Regimental Brothers" is used with brass at the beginning of his arc then with strings in one scene. Another strings theme plays in another moment.

Nicklas reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-05 11:03:32
I really like the tracks X-X, X-CH, and X-SS.

But overalt I'm a little disappointed, because, like many in here, I was hoping for a bigger and more epic variation of Hans new Magneto theme, which is very awesome, but underplayed in the film and the OST. Hans could easily do a variation of that piece with his back tied :)

But overall, that we actually got them to release it, with the help of the petition is amazing, and I agree that Hans should do a similar release next year, for both Top Gun 2, Wonder Woman and Dune...

Imagine a 2 cd with big themes from these films - that would make all us fans explode from happiness! :)

HunterTech reply Replies: 3 || 2019-08-04 02:10:29
I was always curious in this release, but I didn't think it would enamour me this much. The final score I do like, even if it isn't close to my favorites of the X-Men series, but it could've stood to be more unique. With this, I was impressed by just how varied and fun it is. "X-HZT" might just be my favorite Zimmer suite currently. I almost want Zimmer to do more "bad films," since projects like this, M:I-2, and TASM2 are what I liked most of Zimmer. Just that feeling of him doing whatever he feels like and absolutely owning it. Am interested to see where he goes from here.

Also, to the 3 other people who heard Ottman's Apocalypse, did anyone feel the start of "X-LGDP" sounded a bit like the villain material from that? It's definitely coincidental, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.

nvictor2019-08-04 05:28:06
you know, i have never listened to the amazing spiderman soundtrack. i might just get it based on what people say about it.

but i have heard that freedom to compose you talk about in scores like the sherlock holmes, lone ranger, madgascar, and to some extend the pirates series. i have come to realize that it has to do with the gypsy/carefree vibe from those movies. and that some movies don't give you that freedom to explore (or maybe really it's some directors that don't...). we are truly blessed with this release.

sorry never heard Ottman's Apocalypse but will check it out.

LS100 Studios2019-08-04 14:52:14
@Hunter Totally agree on that Apocalypse opening, those vocals sounded straight out of Ottman's score. A few minor differences but it's really similar, definitely coincidental like you said.

mpolonest123 2019-08-04 19:50:22
My first listen I really liked this album a lot, after several listens Iím confident when I say this is probably my favorite Zimmer release in the past few years. Itís such an amazing blend of 90ís Zimmer power anthems and guitar solos with current Zimmer sound design and experimentation. I can definitely see why he was proud of this music, itís almost a culmination of different portions of his career.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 23 || 2019-08-01 20:43:49
BTW I have the explanation for one of the titles, the cuesheet gave it away since it's used in the credits :

X-SS => Space Scene

(in the cuesheet the cue is called End Credit 1 - Space Scene)

Let's try to guess the rest... :P

Bob2019-08-01 20:53:15
The game became harder since Batman Begins lol

BC2019-08-01 20:54:54
Still waiting to hear it, so I'm not sure, but is the Space Scene track from the beginning of the movie, or was it written for the original finale that was supposed to take place in space?

Hybrid Soldier2019-08-01 21:07:11
Beginning one actually ! Before Hans rewrote it ! :)

BC2019-08-01 21:12:27
@Hybrid Soldier

Yaaaassss!! Can't wait to get off of work and give this a listen!

Ahmad2019-08-01 21:22:56

I'm waiting for it to be out officially for me so I can listen to it in full.

badbu2019-08-01 21:30:20
yes, me too!
btw, is the only way to get this score via amazon?
or can we get it via itunes, spotify?

mpolonest123 2019-08-01 22:19:36
6. X-MP definitely is related to Purcell and the descending ďDidoís LamentĒ tune.
4. X-SI is the villain theme, not sure of the initials though.
5. X-HD (Hans Dancing?) sounds like a techno dance track to me lol

mpolonest123 2019-08-01 22:23:24
This has got to be the weirdest Hans album I think Iíve heard in a long time, itís like he approached his usual ďsketchbookĒ technique in the form of a crazy jam session/live concert.

And Iím loving every second of it. Also props to Andy Page for how he mixed this, the distorted studio sounds add to the surrealness

Mike2019-08-01 22:57:48
Where can we get this album? iTunes?

Der Profl2019-08-01 23:56:16
@mpolonest123 Maybe SI stands for space invader if it's the villain theme. I haven't seen the movie, but I thought Jessica Chestain is an alien like creature, so space invader would make sense.

Ahmad2019-08-02 02:42:45
Man, where to begin? This album is a wonderful expansion to the OST. To hear some of Hans' original ideas without the constraints of picture cuts and edits is always exciting. I'm so grateful this got released.

BC2019-08-02 03:21:11

I'm thinking that HD is the template that the action pieces of "Intimate" and "Reckless" were built off of. The tempo is right for Intimate, and once you slot in Magneto's theme and the action version of the X-theme it fits pretty well.

For Reckless, around the 2:30 mark in HD lines up pretty well with the middle portion of the track. Spent way too much time analyzing it, but it bothered me that HD was the only track that I couldn't identify compared to the OST.

mpolonest123 2019-08-02 04:11:46
That would definitely make sense, I like Space Invaders as a cue title.

Good catch! Itís pretty much the rhythmic action without the thematic material. Kinda like MOS had ďThis is MadnessĒ as an action demo.

Also, would love to state how awesome Magnetoís Theme and MDP are

nvictor2019-08-02 04:57:42
one more hour to wait lol all i can do is read these comments here...

Mike2019-08-02 06:33:29
I'm not gonna lie...I think I like the suites and ideas heard here even more than the score as written for the film. The ideas sound awesome when just played as music, without picture constraints. I was expecting this to be the less exciting little sibling of the main album, but it really stands on its own and is worth experiencing on its own.

BC2019-08-02 06:49:50

Thanks! It was driving me insane, so I had to figure it out.

Ugh, Magneto's theme, MDP, TX, X-X. There's so much goodness here. I was kinda thinking I'd have a favorite, but every track has something special in it and it's making it impossible to choose.

And Magneto's theme is so good I'm actually frustrated that he wasn't in the movie more so that more of it could have actually been used. It's almost a complete waste of an amazing 5 minute suite.


I'm glad we/Hans fought to get it released. I was totally just expecting something along the lines of the second disks for BvS or MoS, and instead we got something that's honestly way better than the finished product. I love the xperimental versions of the Phoenix theme the most. With them not being polished, they feel more raw and aggressive.

mpolonest123 2019-08-02 07:06:30
^^ Have to agree. I still think the finished score is great, but this fleshes out each idea so well without having to be constrained to the film edit. And this is probably Hans at his most experimental.

As for Magnetoís theme, I fully agree with you BC. Itís so underused in the film. Interestingly enough, the suite version has an almost ďpunk westernĒ vibe to it, something which doesnít come across in the film.

Mike2019-08-02 07:35:55
X-HZT is a fascinating does things with vocals that I've never really heard in a score before. Is that the thing Hans had "always wanted to try" on this movie? Also, the piano motif around 11:30 is great. Reminiscent of MOS and Interstellar.

I also love when the really low piano notes come in during "X-X" (at 1:43). Adds real depth to the theme. The mix of the piano with the larger ensemble was really well done for this score.

BC2019-08-02 08:34:48

Totally. Experimental Hans is something way different than I would have thought, and I hope we get more in the future. I'd love to see something like this for WW84 next year, or for Dune.

It's amazing to be able to be able to compare and contrast the bones of the score to the finished product too, as well as how they were finished and arranged. "Dark" is pretty much just a polished, abbreviated version of X-LGDP, while a track like "Intimate" has pieces from MT, SI, HD and X-X to make the final track.

And Magneto's theme does have kind of a lone gunslinger vibe to it, now that you mention it. It seems like it was lost or toned down during the final phases of revision.


I'm a sucker for great choir arrangements/vocals and it's the thing I've loved most about this score, as well as the way the guitar is used throughout. I think that might be what he was talking about when he was wanting to try something. The opening vocals of X-HZT gives me chills everytime I hear it.

With the piano, I love how it's used in X-XT starting at about 6:40 on out. Combined with the slow, melancholy guitar riffs and the light vocal arrangement, it's utterly beautiful.

Anonymous2019-08-02 15:44:59
Is that true about the original version music was so different of about movie before the reshoots

nvictor2019-08-03 01:37:00
i am so grateful for this release. it reinforces my opinion that we should appreciate scores as work of art in their own right. we should give more credits to artists and anyone who contributes to big projects like this movie.


people, here, misled me. they told me Henry Purcell this and that. well Henry Purcell sounded only twice in the experimental tracks. that clearly was not the inspiration for the "whole" score. it seems to be a solution that came later.

the novelty and main idea is in my opinion the "voice instrument". that's the element that pushed all the boundaries. i heard a similar sound in music that used native american chants. it sounded so familiar to me on the original score. this release shows that the effect was re-discovered through experimentation. that blew me away! another thing about the first track is that at some point it has that new-age, enigma, enya-like vibe. that made me feel very nostalgic...

finally, we don't often recognize people who work with Hans. the cello that played in track 1 was so good i can't help but think Tina played it. but it sounded like "the last samurai" at moments. and i am not sure she worked on that score so i could be wrong. but she deserves kudos anyways. and Andy Page too for the awesome recording and mixing. oh and Steve Mazzaro who somehow manages to appear on all my favorite HZ scores :) and all those people who deserve more appreciation.

thanks everybody :)

Nahuel2019-08-03 02:47:38
Take into account that this might be from the original complete cut of the movie, not the one released on theaters with missing scenes and forced reshoots.

HunterTech2019-08-04 01:56:45
It's very possible these were used as the base for earlier versions of the score, but all signs point to every track besides X-SS being purely suites currently.

For being "forced," Kingberg is quite lucky that he still got to supervise and be onboard for the reshoots. It's unfortunate the same couldn't be said for Snyder.....

Dark Knight reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-03 01:12:39
Does that awesome short cue of magneto that appeared at the end of Intimate appear in any of these tracks except X-MT?

LS100 Studios reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-02 19:08:58
This is an awesome score, so glad it was released. Really brings out the themes from the score and presents more of what Hans imagined. Many of these tracks are partly based off existing ones, but they all bring something new to the table - perhaps with the exception of X-F which is basically "Amity" again.

Here's a quick analysis of the tracks, feel free to add anything I missed.

1. X-HZT - An experimental composer sketch, brings in some elements of the Phoenix theme at times. Love those unsettling chants and yells, some really crazy stuff there.

2. X-X - This is the kind of track I was hoping for with this score - a more gentle suite for the new X-Men theme. Brings in some elements from "Gap".

3. X-LGDP - A suite for the Dark Phoenix theme, extends parts of the track "Dark".

4. X-SI - A suite for the D'Bari, extends parts of the track "Negative".

5. X-HD - A suite for the techno action cues that pop up in tracks like "Intimate" and "Reckless".

6. X-MP - A suite for the ending cue of "Reckless", seems like those thirty seconds were originally a whole track in itself.

7. X-MT - A suite for Magneto's theme, another thing I anticipated with this score. Brings in some new cues while focusing on the themes used in the original score.

8. X-TX - Another suite for the new X-Men theme, this one is much more dreary compared to "X-X". Similarly, it brings in some elements from "Gap".

9. X-MDP - Another suite for the Phoenix. Brings in some elements from "Dark".

10. X-F - A shortened version of "Amity", I think the instrumentation is slightly different but it's much of the same.

11. X-CH - A reworked version of "Coda".

12. X-SS - The end credits for the film, rendition of the new X-Men theme.

Hari Haran reply Replies: 1 || 2019-08-02 16:05:12
This is the best extended release/second album for a score in goodness knows how long.

An absolute experience.

That opening track's Carnatic-esque vocals and contrapuntalizations are sublime. This is the kind of creativity that makes Hans an unparalleled force.

isildur2019-08-02 18:30:19
Came to post just this. The way Hans used Carnatic vocals with his absolute craziness is effing epic. I don't think I have enjoyed this much listening to a piece of music in a long time.

Johann's ghost reply Replies: 1 || 2019-08-02 14:31:50
Hey guys,

Those vocals you've never heard before? Have a listen to Johannson's Arrival, co-incidentally from the director of Dune.

Hybrid Soldier2019-08-02 14:44:44
Who said they've never heard that before ?

BC reply Replies: 5 || 2019-08-01 23:45:28
Anyone have any personal favorites yet?

Der Profl2019-08-01 23:54:24
I'm just listening and it switched to X-X right now. But X-HZT was pretty nice and a little bit weird. The right amount of weird for me. And X-X starts like my favorite song Gap from the original soundtrack. So it will be one of my favorites as well.

Der Profl2019-08-02 00:28:55
Update: I love all songs. Every single one of them until X-MT. But I guess I will love the last ones as well.

Mike2019-08-02 02:31:16
To be honest, I'm impressed by all of them.

Der Profl2019-08-02 11:17:44
Mike, I have to say that I am as well. That album is so great and well made. I like every one of the tracks. But my absolute favorites would be X-HZT, X-X and X-MT, if I have to choose some.

Der Profl2019-08-02 11:19:30
EDIT: I mean X-MP instead of X-MT. But X-MT is also great.

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