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Budapest, please :(Same question here, is concert in Poland even concidered to occur?if the link doesn't work for some reason, the song is called Cliffhanger Sky High on youtubeHi All, sorry it took so long to upload, My friend helped me set up a youtube channel to upload tracks to. I am very inspired by the classic Zimmer Scores of the 90's. I envisioned A climactic rescue aboard A speeding train for this particular cue.<br>https://youtu.be/4WyMIcpqMRk <br>I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.<br>===============<br><br>No one dragged anything. <br><br>I briefly mentioned that franchise, among many other things you conveniently ignored (you do that a lot), to prove a simple point: that a director doesn't get to make 5 movies from the same franchise if people aren't enjoying his work. Simple as that. I never talked about the "quality" of each of those movies. Go see the comment again.<br><br>YOU picked up on this and started talking obsessively about the TF. <br><br><br>==============<br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes. <br>==============<br><br>Look at your first comment here, pal. Look at it good! Snarky, dismissive, almost trollish, and with a clear intention to provoke people. Let me quote it: "Another day, another Bay film that doesn't know what fun is." <br><br>I only "go after" people who can't share their opinions in a respectful, mature way. There are a lot of comments here I disagreed with. But I never confronted those people. Why? Because they know how to properly share an opinion. <br><br>I only go after people who provoke, make fun of someone/something and troll. I've never "attacked" a person who didn't deserve that kind of response. My post history here speaks for itself. <br><br><br>===================<br>And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br>===================<br><br>Nope. Not even close. <br><br>You're just bitter that I'm using quotes from proven, talented people like Spielberg who support Bay. What quotes can your side use? Just quotes from knucklehead film bloggers and critics who hate half of what Hollywood makes. <br><br>No one with an actual integrity and knowledge of the film business can dismiss what Bay has accomplished. You may not like his stuff, but to completely dismiss him as a filmmaker is.......moronic. Truth is, it's only small fries on the internet who are angry that their favorite mid-level directors aren't as big and successful as Bay.<br><br>That's really the bottom line. <br><br>Speaking of that, who is YOUR favorite filmmaker? Go ahead, share it with us. Let's see who is that PERFECT filmmaker you drool over.<br><br>I'm really curious.<br><br>==============<br>By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films. But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br>==============<br><br>Huh??<br><br>When did I said that box office success or box office failure means that a movie is good or bad?? I never that. So if you don't mind, stop putting words in my mouth.<br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>==================<br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't<br>==================<br><br><br>Kinda ironic coming from the person who ignored the majority of the stuff I said here. Careful cherry-picking, convenient ignoring of stuff, and putting words in my mouth is apparently what you like to do. <br><br><br>================<br>What do you mean "next time?" Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.<br>================<br><br>Uhhhh, that's because it IS a joke. Because it is not true and because it was posted with the clear intention to provoke. You are the Negative Nancy here, my friend. Not me. Jesus Christ, even your nickname tells people exactly what they can expect from you......"Cynical Makooti". <br><br><br>====================<br>I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument<br>====================<br><br>Oh, that's true....................you're certainly not winning this argument. I mean, that's obvious. <br><br>And..... I never posted a lie. Just because "your sources" claim something different doesn't mean it's the truth. Pacific Rim wasn't a success - considering the huge expactations and the fact that the movie's budget is $200 freakin' million - and they DID try to start a franchise with 300. They failed. <br><br><br>================<br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br>================<br><br>That's rich. Coming from the guy who calls himself "Cynical Makooti". The guy who now plays the victim, even though he was the one who started this with a childish, trollish comment. <br><br>Look at my first reply to you. I was jokingly mimicking your style. Intentionally. Then you tried to be a smartass with your next reply. But EVEN THEN, I responded in a normal way with my second post. After that........you unleashed your true self. <br><br>And now, you're acting like the victim: "Poor me, being attacked by a crazy Bay fan!" <br><br>So please, don't talk about self-awareness. It ain't working.<br><br><br><br>================<br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br>================<br><br>Haha, maybe you should read more Forbes. Take a look at what they said about the entire (already failed) Pac Rim universe. Read a bit more on how much money the studio lost from the first flick and why they actually went with a sequel. It ain't because the first one was a beloved hit. <br><br><br>=======<br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves. That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br>=======<br><br>Okay, I believe you. Now, would you please share the link to that statement from Paramount. <br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>=============<br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br>=============<br><br>Hey, it's certainly a better and more reasonable place than your world. A world where you completely dismiss and ignore the accomplishments of one of the biggest filmmakers out there.<br><br>What's your next claim? <br><br>That Donnie Trump is the best President in history?<br><br><br>Have a nice day!
Do any of you think that Junkie's Justice League score will ever get released or leaked? I was really excited to hear how Junkie planned on developing the themes used in the prior DCEU movies. Especially the Batman themes from BVS. It's a damn shame how WB handled that film."Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1."<br><br>Newsflash: I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.  Only then did I treat them as fair game.  Considering they make up a third of his filmography, I don't see why I SHOULDN'T address them.  How convenient is it that bringing them up is only ever valid when YOU do it?<br><br>More to the point, I already said I thought his decline kicked in from Pearl Harbor onwards.  The TF films are just his rock bottom.<br><br>"So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic."<br><br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes.  And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br><br>Pain & Gain and 13 Hours, his supposedly best films, also have his lowest box office turnouts.  13 Hours was a flat-out bomb.  By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films.  But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br><br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't.<br><br>"Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything."<br><br>What do you mean "next time?"  Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.  You already have this method down.  You're just too dishonest to admit it.<br><br>Notice how I avoided accusing you of anything until AFTER you started outright lying about movies and flaunting it as objective fact.<br><br>You insulted ME first, pal.  I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument.  Not for your opinions, not for your celebrity crush, for being a disingenuous twat. <br><br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br><br>"Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality."<br><br>Then it's a good thing I never quoted a single one of those, let alone as objective proof, isn't it?<br><br>Man, appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, mistaking correlation for causation, slothful induction, strawmanning, I could make a bingo game outta this.<br><br>"So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?"<br><br>Not "according to me."  According to the studios that make the actual films.  And Forbes.  Remember Forbes?  You considered their word inarguable fact a couple posts ago.<br><br>https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/09/02/pacif ic-rim-and-more-domestic-flops-that-became-global-hits/#3f3e 914d7c18<br><br>Well whaddaya know?<br><br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br><br>That thing you said TF5 was but actually wasn't.<br><br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves.  That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br><br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br><br>Wow!  Just wow!ThxSeville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.Can we stop? I agree with the other guy more in his points, but it's clear that this is gonna keep going nowhere if you're gonna be so overly defensive about something that you claim is merely subjective.
But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br>======================<br><br><br>Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1. <br><br>So no, "challenging the viewer" is not about Transformers. You chose to focus on these movies. Not me. I was actually reffering to Bay movies like The Island and especially Pain and Gain. <br><br>But I guess you like to talk only about Transformers.....Good for you. But that's not how a discussion works. <br><br><br>===================<br>Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br>===================<br><br><br>So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic? <br><br>Wow! Just wow!<br><br>Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything. For you, that is apparently the normal behavior.<br><br><br>======<br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.<br>=======<br><br>Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality. Also, a "bad" movie to you is the greatest movie for the guy walking next to you on the street. As Kevin Smith said: "Every movie is someone's favorite movie". <br><br>Let's try to keep that in mind.<br><br><br>============<br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br>============<br><br>Really?<br><br>Then what do you have to say about Pacific Rim 1. I present to you.......the pure numbers:<br><br>Budget: $200 million. And that doesn't include the marketing cost.<br>Worldwide gross: $411,002,906<br><br>So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?<br><br>Wow! Just.....wow!Yeah lol back then only Harold was confirmed.Can you tell me a names of cues, that was been on Klaus website?Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?
well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man.  Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want.  If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny.  When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.  That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here.  Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact.  I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here.  It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money.  Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.  But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career.  I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money.  Period.  Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie.  <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.nope
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Hans ZimmerKlaus BadeltJohn PowellJeff Rona
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAmbient Music Design
The Thin Red Line (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 263'35
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CD1 - THE FILM SCORE
  1. Nature Montage (5:38)
  2. Witt With Melanesians (2:54)
  3. Witt In Brig - Tall And Quintard (8:27)
  4. Staros Below Deck (1:58)
  5. March Inland (8:21)
  6. Staros Prays (2:23)
  7. The Grass - Tall Calls Staros (3:27)
  8. Keck's Death (4:47)
  9. Walsh Helps Tella (2:20)
  10. Staros Refuses Order (8:11)
  11. Bell's Patrol (3:58)
  12. Bell Goes Alone (3:31)
  13. Welsh & Witt Talk (3:49)
  14. Gaff's Party Leaves (3:17)
  15. Gaff's Party Returns (2:04)
  16. Attack On The Bivouac (Long Version) (11:03)
CD2 - THE FILM SCORE (CONTINUED)
  1. Staros Is Relieved (2:08)
  2. Tall Does Nails (1:22)
  3. Airfield - Bell Flashback (5:57)
  4. Marty's Letter (3:42)
  5. Village Flashback (2:04)
  6. Witt Travels (5:48)
  7. Japanese Appear - Witt Chased (5:27)
  8. Witt Killed (2:15)
  9. Witt's Funeral (5:17)
  10. Cemetery (4:48)
  11. End Credits (5:23)
  12. Concerto For Beam (Extended Version) - John Powell (feat. Francesco Lupica) (6:09)
    Additional Music:
  13. Keck's Death (Alternate) (4:32)
  14. Gaff's Party Returns (Alternate) (2:05)
  15. Attack On The Bivouac (Short Version) (8:05)
  16. Staros Is Relieved (Alternate) (3:06)
  17. Tall Does Nails (Alternate) (1:30)
  18. Witt Travels (Alternate) (6:43)
CD3 - THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK ALBUM
  1. The Corall Atoll (8:00)
  2. The Lagoon (8:36)
  3. Journey To The Line (9:21)
  4. Light (7:19)
  5. Beam - John Powell (feat. Francesco Lupica) (3:44)
  6. Air (2:21)
  7. Stone In My Heart (4:28)
  8. The Village (5:52)
  9. Silence (5:06)
  10. God U Tekem Laef Blong Mi - Melanesian Choirs (1:58)
  11. Sit Back And Relax - Francesco Lupica (2:06)
CD4 - MELANESIAN CHOIRS: THE BLESSED ISLANDS - CHANTS FROM THE THIN RED LINE
  1. Jisas Yu Holem Hand Blong Mi (1:21)
  2. Soon My Lord (1:16)
  3. God Yu Tekkem Laef Blong Mi (2:17)
  4. Early Morning At Tabalia (0:29)
  5. Procession Chant 1 (1:28)
  6. Procession Chant 2 (Kuston Tune) (0:55)
  7. Holly (1:40)
  8. Procession Chant 3 (1:03)
  9. We Love To Sing (3:39)
  10. Mi Go Longway (2:51)
  11. Jisasā Masta Mi Save (2:57)
  12. Procession Chant 4 (0:36)
  13. Together Be (2:26)
  14. Sunday Service Hymn (1:43)
  15. Halleluia!ā Sing To Jesus (1:30)
  16. Jesusā You Are Here (2:15)
  17. Bybye (2:33)
  18. We Are One Big Happy Family (2:29)
  19. Traditional Lullaby (2:16)
  20. Cho Cho Vancho (1:24)
  21. Remember (0:54)
  22. Jisas Yu Holem Hand Blong Mi (1:53)
  23. Pray For Us (2:43)
  24. God All Mighty (2:09)
  25. Procession Chorus (3:16)
  26. Kyrie (3:02)
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JimmyCakes reply Replies: 3 || 2020-01-25 01:34:48
2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?


Scorefan2020-01-25 23:48:04
'Cause maybe the expected all the cues from the sessions


Makooti2020-01-27 13:19:40
Honestly man, I never understood this site's ratings either.


Hybrid Soldier2020-01-27 18:33:44
I've demanded for it to be removed a long time ago... Maybe in 10 years, who knows...

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2019-08-15 15:58:34
Has anyone noticed a high-pitched whining in the background of some tracks? It's particularly bad in the mid-section of "Witt in Brig/Tall and Quintard", from about 4 minutes onwards. It's such a high frequency that I bet a lot of people wouldn't hear it (including the QA team at LLL, I guess), but I can and it's really debilitating.


Anonymous2019-08-16 01:06:24
so only you can hear it eh? Zaralyth? that you? lol


Anonymous2019-08-16 20:42:11
Zaras a girl and I agree with Edmund there is some sine signals and noise in the upper register that is noticeable in some cues. But that's the nature of the media it was recorded on.

You could use a spectral repair tool and non-destructive noise removal tool to fix them, such as those found in iZotope RX

Oscarilbo reply Replies: 2 || 2019-07-07 22:11:45
Hybrid or anyone... the song God Yu Tekkem Laef Blong Mi was or was not composed by Zimmer? Iíve always assumed it was the only melanesian song he actually composed, but reading the new lala land released cdís booklet the author talks about it as if the theme Zimmer used within the context of the movie was only based on that chant and not actually composed by him.

Could anyone clarify this for me? thank you in advance.


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-08 20:16:13
Hmmmm to me there was never a doubt, the melody is from the melanisians, it's a traditional chant (and therefore, melody that goes with it).

The orchestration of it for TTRL was Klaus.


Oscarilbo2019-07-09 19:38:45
Thank you Hybrid. Also I've been years looking for the supposedly "hymn" or traditional folk song Staro's theme is based on so I can listen to it in it's original form, but have never succeeded. Do you happen to know it by any chance?

Thanks so much

StRuPiE reply Replies: 9 || 2019-02-10 00:19:02
Allow me to say a few things about this release. After a first listen, I can confirm that the film version of the taiko's are (still) not used in this set. As I predicted earlier, taiko's in both tracks (March Inland/Attack On The Bivouac) are missing or seriously toned down. So a film mix of both cues, for those in doubt, still not released.

Also, for those wondering what the long version of 'Attack On The Bivouac' is all about, well, it's the longer 'taiko' intro from the sessions combined with a new ending. Before you go all nuts, no it's not the source music, it isn't even Zimmer's high strings that we are so familiar with. It's an unused cue from the sessions (12M39B v.3) that seques into 'JTTL'. It's a nice variation but not quite as good as Ives' source or the strings.

I don't wanna spoil too much, but if you're looking for a complete 'movie experience' score for this film, keep looking elsewhere because you're not going to find it in this set. There's simply too much missing; no film mixes, no source music, different combo's, no Cosmic Beam. It's just so dissapointing if you've waited all those years for a complete version to find out that it's just the score vol II. On the other hand, if you think the OST is good, you'll be in for a treat, there are so many beautiful cues, you'll love it. Still a lot of unused cues though.

I still think it's a missed opportunity. This could have been so much better. It's not bad, but it's just too painful to see that there's so much missing.


HunterTech2019-02-10 06:37:33
Can someone tell me if there's anything actually substantive on its own that's missing? Because so far, I just hear a bunch of people complaining because they can't replicate the film audio 100%, thanks to conscious choices made for a listening experience.

I respect those who admire the music in the form it takes for the finished film, but besides a few exceptions, I never could care for any of it.


Witt2019-02-10 10:07:43
@StRuPiE: how is it possible you've had the chance to hear it? I thought it's going to ship on feb 12th?


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-10 11:24:22
I think you're very harsh to that release, it's rather a blessing they go with what was WRITTEN for the film and not what was edited, remixed & mostly butchered for the film and with source cues...

They've carefully used alternates in the "Film Score" section to not duplicate the content of the CD 3, which was the best idea. Sure, some things are still missing, but let's no be crybabies... :P


StRuPiE2019-02-10 15:06:24
In my opinion, at least the 'Cosmic Beam' cues could have been included. To me that's equally important as Zimmer's score. And it has nothing to do with editing/mixing or whathaveyou, it's just an important element in this score. Almost all action sequences have been edited with that music in mind, so to not have it in this set is just brutal.

Again, this set will be interesting for a general audience that are not familiar with the bootlegs/sessions. For us enthusiasts, it's lacking too much substantial elements, regardless of their presented versions.

I'm sure a proper version will present itself in the near future ... ;)


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-10 15:12:31
Sit Back & Relax is in the set, that's enough...

What, you also wanted 18 min of War Drums ?


StRuPiE2019-02-10 15:29:46
Actually, 'Sit back & Relax' as presented on the OST, is the short version, which is not used in the film. It's the longer version that has portions in the movie. So no, the short version is not enough...

The other Beam track in this set, 'Concerto for Beam' has also small portions in the movie (mainly the beginning) but most of it is unused.

What I want is 30 secs of Taiko's!


BlueLine2019-02-10 20:33:26
Would be nice to see the "Complete Score" Page to this great score! :)


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-11 12:13:00
You've been asking that for years.......


So be it... :o


JamesT2019-02-15 19:13:39
Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes. Nice to finally have all of this music. Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else. I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-09 19:51:37
So are there credits for this one?

Arturito reply Replies: 20 || 2019-02-05 12:57:32
so dissapointing to see what's on disc 3 and 4. i was really looking forward to hear all the alternate takes and cues, unused tracks which they composed for this movie. there are hours of unused tracks! they could have filled these two discs with those tracks instead of with the material which we already have since 20 years. damn man!

at least i really hope they're offering with "attack on the bivouac" (= journey to the line) the movie version with the dramatic drums and the different ending. that cue is like in interstellar with the docking scene and the missing massive dynamic of the organs. here it is the dramatic drums which gives you even more chills to the cue.

and yeah, glad we've got the other 'leak' with 5,5hours of material, but like i said, missing this especially cue.


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-05 13:00:18
Most of the alternates are basically like a different mix of the same cue, with a layer added or removed, it's not exactly interesting (except maybe for us lol) to just have 3 versions of the same track back to back with slight differences...


mpolonest123 2019-02-05 13:04:46
Yeah, Iím kinda surprised that they didnít do a really comprehensive release for this. Especially you have almost 6 hours worth of stuff.
On the same token, I can imagine why they didnít include the recordings of the the various drums/bowls/gongs. Some of those go on for about 20 minutes at a time.

Happy to see the Melanesian album here though!


Arturito2019-02-05 13:05:54
@hybrid: yeah you're right with saying that it's maybe just interesting for us ^^ so it's not really interesting for the huge market. but while it's limited to only 3000 pieces, i have had hopes that they really trying to reach the more zimmer "hardcore" fans like us or from the movie itself. if they would release a huge number of it, then yeah, i would understand the choice, but like i said with that limited number, they could have done better and release also those unused and alternate tracks :(


Oscarilbo2019-02-05 19:00:26
I'm a huge Zimmer fan since 1994... Saw him in the tour in 2017 and loved it every minute. The Thin Red Line is my favorite score from him. Not just redefined Hollywood film music but my personal life also. This has been a big holy grail form me, a dream come true. I love the presentation, I don't need the "unofficial" tracks, just the official ones. I want to have a chronological experience, relieving the film in my head and heart, but also the original soundtrack was one of my favorite listening experiences hearing it for the first time so of course I love to still have that option REMASTERED.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 11:11:55
I'm afraid LLL's version of 'JTTL' is an exact copy of the sessions, judging from the sample on their site. The taiko's sound exactly the same, toned down all the way. So after all these years, still no film version. And sadly, a lot of cues are missing including source music and Cosmic Beam cues. A missed opportunity in my eyes.


timothy2019-02-06 11:57:17
What a let down this is, if it's true. My goodness, it was the only chance and opportunity to give this masterpiece its justice by releasing the complete stuff. not only the unused and unreleased ones, but also the movie version of it. now you're having the original score, and the opportunity to release the real deal, but noooo, we're releasing again a different version of it and hey, again the original score in disc 3, because of what? not having enough material to fill disc 3? really?! and seriously, i'm not getting the argument that this is interesting just for us. LLL is considered to reach the fews, the small market for enthusiatics and not for the random listener. and with this limited release, you wanted to reach only those ones who are in love with this movie and score since 20 years!!! so don't tell me we've changed the strategy to reach a bigger market with this and miss the opportunity to release again what we already have. you've had space with two more discs to fill the lack, but no you don't want it.

awh man i'm really SO upset. it was the only chance that existed to finally have released what has been written for this majestic movie. and i'm afraid, we'll never ever get such an opportunity again.


Kent ÷berg2019-02-06 12:31:15
This is the complete score. Why do people want to hear unreleased, rejected stuff so much? Also, let's be honest... Hans is a little bit of a mythomaniac and his "I wrote 10 hours of music that didn't even make the movie" is probably greatly exaggerated.


Knight2019-02-06 12:36:32
Because unreleased/film versions of cues are normally better than the ones as presented on album


timothy2019-02-06 13:03:10
we want the unreleased stuff, because it's the first vision of the composer. so if you're releasing the complete and the alternates, you've got both visions of the director and the composer which is a great listening experience.

and as you're talking about the complete score, well yeah, then release the real complete score how it is played in the movie and don't release a different cue like "Attack On The Bivouac" with missing taikos which are important to the dramatic scene and an alternate ending on the cue aswell. so what's the point here to release an alternate cue, which wasn't heard in that form in the movie? and saying no to the real version and also no to other alternates? makes absolutely no sense at all.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 13:13:21
I'm with you timothy. There could have been put a little bit more effort in creating film mixes for these tracks. As it looks, LLL will just release the raw sessions without any meddling. And that's great for a general audience, but not for the enthusiasts. And to be fair, the lack of unreleased/unused tracks is the least of my concern... the lack of source music/beam is a real kick in the face because it's a substantial part of this score.


...2019-02-06 14:36:24
@Kent ÷berg

having actually listened to hours of music written for this film, I can confirm that there really is a lot of material.


Ahmad 2019-02-06 15:39:34
I must watch the film (or just the "Attack On The Bivouac" sequence to see all the fuss about the Taikos. I think the samples sounds different enough from the album version and the drum layer is loud enough IMO). Now what really bothers me is that it probably does not include the string film version of "The Unanswered Question" by Charles Ives which apparently fades in to "Attack On The Bivouac" in the film.

There's an alt track that I most certain is included because the track length and title checks out and I'm very happy because it's incredible.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 16:19:34
@Ahmad, the taiko's are definitely toned down on the OST or any other source available. There's only one exception, my Ultimate edition which has the taiko's slightly amped up in those particular scenes. And you're absolutely right, the crossfade at the end of the track is so much better with 'The Unanswered Question', not that Zimmer's strings are bad, but Ives' cue flows seamlessly, it's so haunting and beautiful at the same time.

I think the alt track will be the same alt track from the sessions, but don't get your hopes up, it's also missing the taiko's. The funny thing is, the fuss started 20 years ago and it's still the same fuss today.


Ahmad 2019-02-06 16:31:27
I'm personally satisfied with what I heard (from the sample of course) but I'm bummed about The Unanswered Question. When I first watched the film, I looked for it immediately but unfortunately the film version is different than what's available.

The alt track I mentioned is actually another cue: Witt Travels (Alternate) (6:43)

If it's the one I think it is, then I'm gonna be very happy.

I guess fans and content producers rarely are on the same page. I don't understand why such things happen but...
This, No Time For Caution (Interstellar). There's always something wrong lol.


Oscarilbo2019-02-06 19:26:20
I don't know what you guys are listening to. I can hear the taikos pretty damn well in those samples, with my headphones. I then listen to the original OST and I can barely noticed them there, even looking for them. But on the samples provided by LaLaLand I can hear them with no problem at all, pretty evidently. Yeah, maybe in the film they are brought up to the front a bit more, but I can bet that's on sound mixer part and no Zimmer nor Malick, which of course ultimately they had no problem with, but it doesn't mean it reflects the original intent.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 22:56:14
Why would you assume I don't know what I'm talking about? In fact, I know for sure that the taiko's are not the same. This is a discussion that's going on and on for years. Sure you can hear hints of the taiko's in the sample, of course that's the work of Lee Scott, the music editor. But the reference that really counts is how they are being used in the film. And clearly that's not how they sound on the OST nor any other source (bootlegs/sessions).


Ahmad2019-02-07 00:01:51
Revisited the scene and yes the Taikos are a bit louder but I still think it's loud enough in the sample. Like you can hear it. It's not buried or anything. Funny thing is that I'm more interested in the church bell sound that is not so present compared to the film version.

I don't know how long JTTL is in the sessions but the length of it in the film is about 11 minutes and LLL's version matches that. So will that version include The Unanswered Question or is that a long shot? Can't wait to find out.


StRuPiE2019-02-07 00:30:49
Well, that's one possibility (but I think they would have credited the source music). Maybe another possibility is that they actually included the solo taiko's that precedes the the cue (runs solo for +-30secs). That's my biggest hope and if that's the case here, well than I take back every word I said about the damn taiko's :) because that means a complete film mix is indeed possible.


Jason2019-02-07 05:51:46
I mean the release seems fine to me


Medigo2019-02-07 10:42:57
These louder drums may simply be another example of post session mix edits like with `No Time for Caution`.

(Some music in the Pirates movies had different mixing as well, like the organs in Davy Jones commanded)

David Hand reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 18:48:45
Hello from North Lincolnshire, England and one of Hans Zimmer's many fans over here. I have many of his scores, saw him live in Manchester a few years ago (just an amazing concert) and I must admit, this is one of my favourite of all the Masters scores, but is it worth trying to get this 4 cd set. I have read with interest the comments below. I look forward to any further comments. Thank you

Hari Haran reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 10:44:23
Well, now there's a sexy album cover. :D

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 01:53:58
The sessions fits perfectly in the 4 cd's and maybe the original soundtrack. It would be fantastic if they include the melenessian songs.

Jason reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-04 00:42:04
Release already I want this bad!!!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-03 17:10:24
Oh man, having a red/orange Thin Red Line cover just feels weird to me. That score is so calm and meditative for the most part, red is the LAST color I think of when listening to it.

kingfannypack is the MILFcommander reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-03 05:55:58
This will be interesting, I really enjoy Lalaland releases. I listened to this score years ago and need to listen to it again.

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