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Okay, I want this. Where, how much? lol<br><br>And I'm willing to bet that even those Jablonsky fans who didn't like the score wanna hear the complete album.@Ahmad i think end credits :PDo you know the chronological order for this one Hybrid? I had quick glance at the complete here and the OST album seems massively out of order16 hours of music?<br>Can we hear those 16 hours of music one day?I saw the film today. It's amazing and wonderful. The feeling and emotions of the 1994 film keep untouchables. The score is simply breathtaking. The songs are incredible. The stampede scene is so intense just like the 1994. Hans has made an intense, epic and beautiful score.
Additional arrangements instead of additional music? Even part of the score not on album?Because if the film is an american production, it has no choice but be recorded in the US... That's the rule...<br><br>When the film is a UK co-production, and/or partly shot in the UK etc... (like, for instance, every Nolan film, or King Arthur), it can be recorded in the UK... That's why it's way easier to get an expanded set of The Dark Knight or Interstellar than... the POTC saga...<br><br>I remember the AFM (American Federation of Musicians) wasn't pleased when Interstellar got recorded at Air Studios in London, claiming it had to be US Recorded... But Nolan's a brit, Syncopy is a British operation based in London...> You gotta realize one thing, this score is US recorded so every new 15 min of score you release, you gotta pay back reuse fees. So it's very complicated & costy and that's why they released "only" 15 min of extra score.<br><br>> If it was recorded in the UK, they could have released 2 hours of bonus tracks it wouldn't have cost anything more... :)<br><br>Wow, I didn't know that. So, why not record every movie in the UK/Europe then? Not sure how long it will take but I think this re-use fee will drop once they record every score outside the US.<br>However, how much money did the movie make in the Boxoffice and Home Entertainment? I'm sure that money can't be an issue here.<br><br>How cool would it be to officially buy the sessions in a collectors box (in general for all movies), signed by the composer and director and maybe cast members... I'm sure that could be sold for $200+. The studios are wasting an opportunity here... Sure, you can copy music but you can't copy the signatures.That's exactley what I thought.<br><br>There was one other thing I thought was great.<br><br>I went with my parents, who have heard Zimmer's music, from when I'm listening to it, but they said to me that you can hear, that it's him, without even knowing all of his music.<br>They said, the thematic content, the bombast of it, it is just pure Zimmer.<br><br>Hope Spongebob & Wonder Woman 1984 are with a large orchestral/choir ensemble, and with WW1984 some 80's synths!!Having seen it, the biggest thing I realized was that I missed this kind of scoring in movies. When the HZ of the 90s-2000s left in favor of experiments, it seems no one replaced him, so this area of "big sounding scores with instantly memorable and beautiful themes" has just been abandoned. Hopefully seeing/hearing this version of The Lion King now will give some ideas to executives/directors regarding musical choices!
No GITS cannot be released, it's technically not possible... That's why Lorne leaked his part of the score himself...This is great news.Maybe Balfe’s scores to Ghost in the Shell now can get released.<br>Over 6000 people have signed the petition for Ghost.yea, that should be enough for meIt's comforting to get a reconfirmation that it's coming. <br>Now we'll just have to cross our fingers that the process doesn't take months like that one other release ;) <br><br>Which one will be out first: End Credits or X-Periments? :Pyes!yes!yes!<br>i can't wait!!!!!!!
And I can tell you Hans brought the matter to the very head of Disney Music... Everyone seems game to release it, just need to work out some technicalities...He mentions the Dark Phoenix second CD here. 20:33 onwards.<br><br>https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v=mHmKZbUZiIA<br><br>"I did a film recently that got away, but we wrote 16 hours of music. We're actually fighting to get another CD released because the film didn't do anything, just to have it out there. Because you can't use again in something else, so it'd be nice to have it out there. So that it doesn't disappear into a rubbish bin".Life's Not Fair first part is similar > Tears of the Sun - Yekeleni Part 1 lolAny idea on the name of the song from the trailer?Honestly the biggest problem with this new version for me is the lack of new variants of the themes. They mostly just repeat verbatim Hans' original ideas with little to no innovation or changes made most of the time. <br><br>It also doesn't help that cues that did have wonderful variations such as "Nala Attacks", and "Nala & Simba" have been shortened to mostly cut them out. The worst cut being  for the ending to "Mufasa's Ghost" which originally peaked the emotion with that lovely variation of Simba/The One True King theme transitioning into the Pride Rock theme, all of which is absent now.
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Tom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)Antonio Di IorioConrad Pope
ComposerAdditional MusicConductor
Mortal Engines
Label: Back Lot Music
Length: 70'16
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  1. London Suite In C Major (8:54)
  2. No-One You Know (2:51)
  3. The Chase (1:08)
  4. Welcome To London (2:39)
  5. Miss Valentine (4:19)
  6. This Is For My Mother (1:36)
  7. The Outlands (4:52)
  8. A Resurrected Man (4:44)
  9. Ms. Fang (2:05)
  10. In A Sea Of Clouds (1:28)
  11. The Weapon Of The Ancients (2:08)
  12. Shan Guo (3:21)
  13. I Am The Meteor (2:15)
  14. First Strike (2:09)
  15. Night Sundered (4:10)
  16. In The Shadow Of A Shrine (3:29)
  17. No Going Back (5:58)
  18. Windflower (2:28)
  19. The 13th Floor Elevator (4:40)
  20. Alive And Together (4:52)
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Michael Fields reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-09 09:23:42
MOVIE CREDITS:

Music Composed, Produced, Programmed, Mixed And Mastered By
TOM HOLKENBORG

Score Wrangler
BOB BADAMI

Music Editors
CATHERINE WILSON
STEPHEN GALLAGHER

Orchestra Conducted By
CONRAD POPE

Additional Music By
ANTONIO DI IORIO

Orchestrated By
EDWARD TRYBEK
HENRI WILKINSON
JONATHAN BEARD
TOM HOLKENBORG

Music Preparation By
JORDAN COX

Additional Synth Programming By
EMILY RICE
JONAS FRIEDMAN
MAX KARMAZYN

Technical Score Engineers
ALEX RUGER
JACOPO TRIFONE

Music Production Services By
MICHIEL GROENEVELD

Music Recorded At
MICHAEL FOWLER CENTER (Wellington, New Zealand);
STELLA MARIS (Wellington, New Zealand)

Music Performed By
NEW ZEALAND SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA

Orchestral Recording Engineers
GRAHAM KENNEDY
JOHN NEILL

Orchestral Mix Engineer
JOHN NEILL

Score Recordist
NIGEL SCOTT

Score Technical Crew
ANDREW DALZLEL
BRIAN MAHONEY

Music Mixed At
PARK ROAD POST PRODUCTION

Choir
VOICES NEW ZEALAND CHAMBER CHOIR

Choir Conducted By
KAREN GRYLLS

Solo Sopranos
MORAG ATKINSON
PEPE BECKER

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-24 02:50:17
So just like Divergent, the score is completely butchered in film. The main “London” tune is only used for about 30 seconds in the entire film (disregarding it being tracked into the credits suite) and most of the other music from album seems to be either suites, alternates, or heavily chopped up on screen. The editing in the film is pretty bad, so I’m wondering if that may have affected the score in some way.

Surprisingly there is one excellent unreleased cue, which transitions into “First Strike”, that takes the “Shan Guo” ostinato and overlays the operatic MEDUSA vocals which turn to screams at one point. Also some unreleased Hester/Shrike piano music...

Knight reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-29 04:58:42
Antonio Di Iorio's credits taken from his website by track number

1 2 3 5 6 7 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 19


Knight2018-12-29 04:59:53
Bit disappointing that the London suite isn't all Tom's work

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-28 17:12:45
Very strange this score hasn't had more hype on this site.

They came out in the same week but all the hype seems to go to Aquaman which is the B-version of Thor: Ragnarock.

I think this score is more interesting in orchestration and has a better thematic identity. Tracks like 'Resurrected Man' are really great.

Shame it went under the radar cause it is one of the better RCP outings this year

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-19 00:02:23
Tracklist for Alita

1. A Discovery
2. I Don’t Even Know My Own Name
3. What’s Your Dream?
4. Double Identity
5. The Warrior Within
6. A Dark Past
7. In Time You’ll Remember
8. Nova’s Orders
9. Jackers Mission
10. Unlocking the Past
11. Whose Body Is This?
12. Grewishka’s Revenge
13. Broken Doll
14. With Me
15. I’d Give You My Heart
16. You Just Lost a Puppet
17. What Did You Do?
18. In the Clouds
19. Raising the Sword
20. Motorball


Jean-Luc2018-12-19 01:32:38
Interesting Tracklist!!

Jerry reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-17 18:49:05
Anybody got an indea for chronological order?

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2018-12-14 01:41:38
First Impressions:

This might be one of the most “traditional” scores that Tom has scored at this point in his career. The strings/brass still have the signature JXL sound to them, but the music feels more mature when compared to something like Mad Max or even his most recent outings.

I’m still picking up on the themes as of now (the most obvious being the main fanfare and Hester’s tune) but the idea for Shrike is definitely a clear standout. Especially when it gets an emotional spin later on. The use of woodwinds and the operatic female solo vocals also are a nice addition.

Overall this has to be the biggest surprise of the year for me. Having sorta given up on Junkie after being disappointed by his output in the past few years I never expected him to write a fantasy score on this level (while still keeping one foot in his comfort zone of course). Hopefully more producers actually demand quality music from him, as opposed to the shit we got from
Tomb Raider and Deadpool.


Anonymous2018-12-14 15:42:10
To me it sounds like the composer's usual fare, only this time it has a touch of Conrad Pope every now and then in the orchestrations. Won't be surprised if CP's involvement went beyond just conducting.


mpolonest123 2018-12-14 16:30:08
^ And I think a big part of that is the sound mixing. I understand each composer has their own unique voice, but in Holkenborg’s case he tends to mix everything so harshly, particularly the brass. It definitely muffles the music to a degree.

Similar issue I have with Giacchino, who I think writes amazing music which gets undercut by the really dry mixing.


MrZimmerFan2018-12-14 18:14:35
Conrad Pope is only conductor in this, not orchestrator.

Andreas reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-14 10:04:01
Am I correct that the music used in the long flashback sc&#232;ne with Hester and Shrike is only sort of present in the final track "Alive and Together" ?

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MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-13 19:11:32
I'm listening right now, one of the best works by Tom, by far.

Beautiful choir, great action tracks (even there is a great renditions of the themes, Windflower with that version of Shrike's theme is gorgeous) and multiples themes.


Anonymous2018-12-13 23:19:07
Great work.

I love Tom's aggressive and extreme way of mixing and bold use of percussion.

Glad to see him linked to Alita: Battle Angel too

kingfannypack is the MILFcommander reply Replies: 7 || 2018-12-10 08:14:42
Why wouldn't Peter Jackson have Howard Shore score?


Edmund Meinerts2018-12-10 09:26:24
Peej only produced this film, didn't direct it, and also I sorta think he and Howard Shore don't have the warmest of relationships considering the King Kong firing and then the way the music was mistreated in the Hobbit films.


Anonymous2018-12-10 14:37:39
Skipped the Hobbit films. How so was the music mistreated in those?


MrZimmerFan2018-12-10 15:58:11
Jackson use more LOTR music than the original music created for the movie.

Altough, Watertower releases respect the material written by Shore (as he wanted)


Edmund Meinerts2018-12-10 16:44:14
Especially in the first one, there's a ton of LOTR themes needledropped even though Shore wrote original material for those exact scenes that you can hear on the album, and also there are themes used in scenes where they don't belong at all. Oh and the main theme of the first one and a couple of the secondary ones completely disappear from the second and third movies


superultramegaa2018-12-11 00:05:52
Don't forget the pointless changes like the opening title music for AUE being replaced with an E Major version of The Shire and Gandalf's Farewells for some reason. Or temp tracking earlier pieces of the film in for later scenes.


lumpy2018-12-11 11:15:02
get this a cd-release too


Oscarilbo2018-12-12 20:26:25
The "problem" with The Hobbit scores came just on the first movie and just because it changed from being 2 movies to be a whole trilogy. So... the "punch" points had to be changed on AUJ, meaning that very subtle moments had to be now enhanced every way possible specially by the score so you have much more dramatic emphasis than you had it before, because now you're gonna end the movie MUCH MORE sooner that originally planned.

Nothing to do with Jackson not liking what Shore did. Shore even had the same themes that were ultimately used in the final film, they just were more subtle... even the wrongly music known as "wraights theme" when Throin charges against Azog (which is actually related to all agents of Sauron) was used there by Shore before the changes, just again, the connection was more subtle when that was not going to be the climax of the film.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-11 21:18:11
Alita ia going to be release by Milan Records


Jean-Luc2018-12-11 22:41:52
That's a great news!

Nick reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-10 21:55:23
Tom just released "London Suite in C Major" on his YouTube channel, and I am really loving it. He's usually hit-or-miss for me, but this cue in particular really intrigues me. Sounds like he merged the orchestral sections of Fury Road with the flighty ballads of Hollywood Golden Age music.


Ds2018-12-11 11:35:53
It's great but sadly it's only used in the end credits :-(
I suspect it might have been an alternate version of the opening scene.

Anyway the rest of the score is absolutely stunning, a good balance between heavy action and themes (and incredible choir). A new high in JXL's career, let's hope the OST release does it justice.

lumpy reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-10 20:49:00
CD Release?

isildur reply Replies: 4 || 2018-12-06 21:57:31
This sounds amazing.
https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc6U4zYppks


Mike2018-12-06 22:53:46
Consider me pleasantly surprised....


Mike2018-12-06 23:20:05
On repeat listens, it sounds like if someone tossed Fury Road into a blender with Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries and Michael Giacchino's Medal of Honor scores. A surprisingly good combination, if you ask me.


mpolonest123 2018-12-07 01:30:36
I’m pleasantly surprised. The whole thing has a very “classic Hollywood” fantasy type feel to it, with Holkenborg’s usual percussion and strings overlaid. The mixing is still a bit too harsh and overproduced, but I’m loving what I hear so far. Here’s hoping the rest stays consistently strong...


Andreas2018-12-07 09:54:16
Saw the film few days ago. Score is one of the best things in the film. Indeed a mix of BvS en Mad Max, only more orchestral. Can't wait to listen to it again.

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