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New YouTube playlist: <br>Hans Zimmer - Film Scores. <br>youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nVB9Q77N9h-iKbNe7ZWrQHjiy_ vla_glc<br><br>I don't understand how they chose that cover:<br>Time (arr. guitar) [Music Lab Collective]<br>youtube.com/watch?v=YGCFdR--u5M<br><br>Strength and honor!<br><br>One of this score's best and most underrated moments, especially in the context of the film, is the introduction of the Kraken's theme in "Row to Tia Dalma". The tense buildup while Gibbs describes the creature's horrors, then the brief pause as he names it, followed by the theme in the absolute lowest registers of the orchestra, quiet, but so so so menacing and also just SUPER FUCKING COOL.<br><br>It gives me goosebumps every time, in a *dialogue scene*. That is incredibly good musical storytelling.Edmund: And posted their one-sentence review of it on the Hans Zimmer fan site.Anything missed from the official release?oh damn really? huh that would be cool. even with the ultimate edition there’s still deleted scenes and I wish they were put on the Blu ray.<br><br>it plays during the scene after the knightmare when Clark is looking through the polaroids that say judge jury executioner on them. i don’t remember if that’s an extended scene or not as I’ve only seen the theatrical cut once in theaters. one and done lol
"Chicken Run really makes you FEEL like you're in a concentration camp." - IGNI guess it comes from a deleted scene where Jesse Eisenberg gets playful with his dinner. Rumor has it it's gonna be included in the Snyder Cut.I love the notion of Barack Obama and IGN teaming up to review 20 year old film scores.Smoothly done soundtrack. IGN - 10/10what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????
I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !
I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time latelyOk, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happy
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Tom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)Antonio Di IorioBob BadamiConrad Pope
ComposerAdditional MusicMusic SupervisorConductor
Mortal Engines
Label: Back Lot Music
Length: 70'16
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  1. London Suite In C Major (8:54)
  2. No-One You Know (2:51)
  3. The Chase (1:08)
  4. Welcome To London (2:39)
  5. Miss Valentine (4:19)
  6. This Is For My Mother (1:36)
  7. The Outlands (4:52)
  8. A Resurrected Man (4:44)
  9. Ms. Fang (2:05)
  10. In A Sea Of Clouds (1:28)
  11. The Weapon Of The Ancients (2:08)
  12. Shan Guo (3:21)
  13. I Am The Meteor (2:15)
  14. First Strike (2:09)
  15. Night Sundered (4:10)
  16. In The Shadow Of A Shrine (3:29)
  17. No Going Back (5:58)
  18. Windflower (2:28)
  19. The 13th Floor Elevator (4:40)
  20. Alive And Together (4:52)
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Michael Fields reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-09 09:23:42
MOVIE CREDITS:

Music Composed, Produced, Programmed, Mixed And Mastered By
TOM HOLKENBORG

Score Wrangler
BOB BADAMI

Music Editors
CATHERINE WILSON
STEPHEN GALLAGHER

Orchestra Conducted By
CONRAD POPE

Additional Music By
ANTONIO DI IORIO

Orchestrated By
EDWARD TRYBEK
HENRI WILKINSON
JONATHAN BEARD
TOM HOLKENBORG

Music Preparation By
JORDAN COX

Additional Synth Programming By
EMILY RICE
JONAS FRIEDMAN
MAX KARMAZYN

Technical Score Engineers
ALEX RUGER
JACOPO TRIFONE

Music Production Services By
MICHIEL GROENEVELD

Music Recorded At
MICHAEL FOWLER CENTER (Wellington, New Zealand);
STELLA MARIS (Wellington, New Zealand)

Music Performed By
NEW ZEALAND SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA

Orchestral Recording Engineers
GRAHAM KENNEDY
JOHN NEILL

Orchestral Mix Engineer
JOHN NEILL

Score Recordist
NIGEL SCOTT

Score Technical Crew
ANDREW DALZLEL
BRIAN MAHONEY

Music Mixed At
PARK ROAD POST PRODUCTION

Choir
VOICES NEW ZEALAND CHAMBER CHOIR

Choir Conducted By
KAREN GRYLLS

Solo Sopranos
MORAG ATKINSON
PEPE BECKER

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-24 02:50:17
So just like Divergent, the score is completely butchered in film. The main “London” tune is only used for about 30 seconds in the entire film (disregarding it being tracked into the credits suite) and most of the other music from album seems to be either suites, alternates, or heavily chopped up on screen. The editing in the film is pretty bad, so I’m wondering if that may have affected the score in some way.

Surprisingly there is one excellent unreleased cue, which transitions into “First Strike”, that takes the “Shan Guo” ostinato and overlays the operatic MEDUSA vocals which turn to screams at one point. Also some unreleased Hester/Shrike piano music...

Knight reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-29 04:58:42
Antonio Di Iorio's credits taken from his website by track number

1 2 3 5 6 7 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 19


Knight2018-12-29 04:59:53
Bit disappointing that the London suite isn't all Tom's work

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-28 17:12:45
Very strange this score hasn't had more hype on this site.

They came out in the same week but all the hype seems to go to Aquaman which is the B-version of Thor: Ragnarock.

I think this score is more interesting in orchestration and has a better thematic identity. Tracks like 'Resurrected Man' are really great.

Shame it went under the radar cause it is one of the better RCP outings this year

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-19 00:02:23
Tracklist for Alita

1. A Discovery
2. I Don’t Even Know My Own Name
3. What’s Your Dream?
4. Double Identity
5. The Warrior Within
6. A Dark Past
7. In Time You’ll Remember
8. Nova’s Orders
9. Jackers Mission
10. Unlocking the Past
11. Whose Body Is This?
12. Grewishka’s Revenge
13. Broken Doll
14. With Me
15. I’d Give You My Heart
16. You Just Lost a Puppet
17. What Did You Do?
18. In the Clouds
19. Raising the Sword
20. Motorball


Jean-Luc2018-12-19 01:32:38
Interesting Tracklist!!

Jerry reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-17 18:49:05
Anybody got an indea for chronological order?

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2018-12-14 01:41:38
First Impressions:

This might be one of the most “traditional” scores that Tom has scored at this point in his career. The strings/brass still have the signature JXL sound to them, but the music feels more mature when compared to something like Mad Max or even his most recent outings.

I’m still picking up on the themes as of now (the most obvious being the main fanfare and Hester’s tune) but the idea for Shrike is definitely a clear standout. Especially when it gets an emotional spin later on. The use of woodwinds and the operatic female solo vocals also are a nice addition.

Overall this has to be the biggest surprise of the year for me. Having sorta given up on Junkie after being disappointed by his output in the past few years I never expected him to write a fantasy score on this level (while still keeping one foot in his comfort zone of course). Hopefully more producers actually demand quality music from him, as opposed to the shit we got from
Tomb Raider and Deadpool.


Anonymous2018-12-14 15:42:10
To me it sounds like the composer's usual fare, only this time it has a touch of Conrad Pope every now and then in the orchestrations. Won't be surprised if CP's involvement went beyond just conducting.


mpolonest123 2018-12-14 16:30:08
^ And I think a big part of that is the sound mixing. I understand each composer has their own unique voice, but in Holkenborg’s case he tends to mix everything so harshly, particularly the brass. It definitely muffles the music to a degree.

Similar issue I have with Giacchino, who I think writes amazing music which gets undercut by the really dry mixing.


MrZimmerFan2018-12-14 18:14:35
Conrad Pope is only conductor in this, not orchestrator.

Andreas reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-14 10:04:01
Am I correct that the music used in the long flashback sc&#232;ne with Hester and Shrike is only sort of present in the final track "Alive and Together" ?

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-13 19:11:32
I'm listening right now, one of the best works by Tom, by far.

Beautiful choir, great action tracks (even there is a great renditions of the themes, Windflower with that version of Shrike's theme is gorgeous) and multiples themes.


Anonymous2018-12-13 23:19:07
Great work.

I love Tom's aggressive and extreme way of mixing and bold use of percussion.

Glad to see him linked to Alita: Battle Angel too

kingfannypack is the MILFcommander reply Replies: 7 || 2018-12-10 08:14:42
Why wouldn't Peter Jackson have Howard Shore score?


Edmund Meinerts2018-12-10 09:26:24
Peej only produced this film, didn't direct it, and also I sorta think he and Howard Shore don't have the warmest of relationships considering the King Kong firing and then the way the music was mistreated in the Hobbit films.


Anonymous2018-12-10 14:37:39
Skipped the Hobbit films. How so was the music mistreated in those?


MrZimmerFan2018-12-10 15:58:11
Jackson use more LOTR music than the original music created for the movie.

Altough, Watertower releases respect the material written by Shore (as he wanted)


Edmund Meinerts2018-12-10 16:44:14
Especially in the first one, there's a ton of LOTR themes needledropped even though Shore wrote original material for those exact scenes that you can hear on the album, and also there are themes used in scenes where they don't belong at all. Oh and the main theme of the first one and a couple of the secondary ones completely disappear from the second and third movies


superultramegaa2018-12-11 00:05:52
Don't forget the pointless changes like the opening title music for AUE being replaced with an E Major version of The Shire and Gandalf's Farewells for some reason. Or temp tracking earlier pieces of the film in for later scenes.


lumpy2018-12-11 11:15:02
get this a cd-release too


Oscarilbo2018-12-12 20:26:25
The "problem" with The Hobbit scores came just on the first movie and just because it changed from being 2 movies to be a whole trilogy. So... the "punch" points had to be changed on AUJ, meaning that very subtle moments had to be now enhanced every way possible specially by the score so you have much more dramatic emphasis than you had it before, because now you're gonna end the movie MUCH MORE sooner that originally planned.

Nothing to do with Jackson not liking what Shore did. Shore even had the same themes that were ultimately used in the final film, they just were more subtle... even the wrongly music known as "wraights theme" when Throin charges against Azog (which is actually related to all agents of Sauron) was used there by Shore before the changes, just again, the connection was more subtle when that was not going to be the climax of the film.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-11 21:18:11
Alita ia going to be release by Milan Records


Jean-Luc2018-12-11 22:41:52
That's a great news!

Nick reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-10 21:55:23
Tom just released "London Suite in C Major" on his YouTube channel, and I am really loving it. He's usually hit-or-miss for me, but this cue in particular really intrigues me. Sounds like he merged the orchestral sections of Fury Road with the flighty ballads of Hollywood Golden Age music.


Ds2018-12-11 11:35:53
It's great but sadly it's only used in the end credits :-(
I suspect it might have been an alternate version of the opening scene.

Anyway the rest of the score is absolutely stunning, a good balance between heavy action and themes (and incredible choir). A new high in JXL's career, let's hope the OST release does it justice.

lumpy reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-10 20:49:00
CD Release?

isildur reply Replies: 4 || 2018-12-06 21:57:31
This sounds amazing.
https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc6U4zYppks


Mike2018-12-06 22:53:46
Consider me pleasantly surprised....


Mike2018-12-06 23:20:05
On repeat listens, it sounds like if someone tossed Fury Road into a blender with Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries and Michael Giacchino's Medal of Honor scores. A surprisingly good combination, if you ask me.


mpolonest123 2018-12-07 01:30:36
I’m pleasantly surprised. The whole thing has a very “classic Hollywood” fantasy type feel to it, with Holkenborg’s usual percussion and strings overlaid. The mixing is still a bit too harsh and overproduced, but I’m loving what I hear so far. Here’s hoping the rest stays consistently strong...


Andreas2018-12-07 09:54:16
Saw the film few days ago. Score is one of the best things in the film. Indeed a mix of BvS en Mad Max, only more orchestral. Can't wait to listen to it again.

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