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Thanks Hybrid for explaining that. Makes more sense now.Yes it is because the FYC is horrible... The OST is what Steve & co wrote. The FYC is what came out of the Music Editing Factory, which I don't dig at all. Lots of micro edits & transformations Steve probably didn't even hear... lol<br><br>Real final mixes would look like the OST, not like the FYC...You gotta realize one thing, this score is US recorded so every new 15 min of score you release, you gotta pay back reuse fees. So it's very complicated & costy and that's why they released "only" 15 min of extra score.<br><br>If it was recorded in the UK, they could have released 2 hours of bonus tracks it wouldn't have cost anything more... :)<br><br>As for a chrono order, since all cues are mixed together in different tracks in the OST, it gets complicated... It works like that :<br><br>ARTHUR => Theme Suite + 5m30 + 1m05<br>KINGDOM OF ATLANTIS => 3m20-21<br>IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE => 1m01 + 1m04B<br>ATLANTEAN SOLDIERS => Theme Suite + 5m33 + 2m12<br>WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? => Theme Suite<br>THE LEGEND OF ATLAN => 6m39 + 4m23<br>SWIMMING LESSONS => 3m19 + 3m19B + 3m19C<br>THE BLACK MANTA => Theme Suite + 9m69<br>WHAT COULD BE GREATER THAN A KING? => 7m54 + 7m55 + 7m55A<br>PERMISSION TO COME ABOARD => 9m64 + 2m07<br>SUITED AND BOOTED => 8m57 + 8m59<br>BETWEEN LAND AND SEA => 7m51 + 8m61<br>HE COMMANDS THE SEA => 8m60 + 9m65<br>MAP IN A BOTTLE => 6m42 + 8m56<br>THE RING OF FIRE => 5m29 + 8m62<br>REUNITED => 9m68<br>TRENCH ENGAGED => 7m52<br>MERA MONTAGE => 6m43B + 6m48<br>HOME INVASION => 1m04 + 3m15<br>SAVING POPS => 3m18<br>AHAB WAVES => 3m17 + 2m06B<br>ASK THE SEA => 2m08B<br>OBLIGATION => 5m32<br>DUNES => 5m37-38Heitor Pereira, Satnam Ramgotra and Richard Harvey are credited musiciansSounds like a Zimmer version of the Top Gun Anthem to me. Whoever did it, it works!
me who seldom watch any of these superhero movies and remakes went and saw the new aladdin last weekend.<br><br>based on my own experience of that remake i have come to the conclusion that maybe some of the reviewers are stuck-up and not open-minded? i did enjoy the new takes on some of the songs. the new movie felt like that. a new different movie to me. <br><br>i decided that i will go and watch these movies for myself now. and i would not watch (or listen to original scores) in advance to build up expectation. i will go and enjoy my time and the songs.<br><br>that's all &#175;\_(&#12484;)_/&#175; you can't please everyone.To be honest. I love the bonus score tracks, nut those remixes are a wazte of disc soace in my opinion. I would've rather have 20 extra minutes of score.<br><br>Let the Complete Score come!For everyone that's heard it, is the Deluxe Edition worth a double dip?@Hybrid is this the combination of FYC promotional score + official release by LLL?Use your hybrid skills to unravel the mysteries of the score.
Cuesheet is blank.oh yes please, including Balfe - don´t start yelling, I´m just really curious who did whatFinally! It would be nice to have composers credits@DT<br>Disney definitely tries to put quality into their projects, which is why I admire them. As you’ve said, WDAS and Pixar are both churning out some excellent and original films. Even Marvel, despite its formula and flaws, tries new things with the films and stick closely to the source material. <br><br>The problem with the remakes is that they seem to be nothing more than cash-grabs that prey on nostalgia. If you are going to retell a beloved story at least try something different and exciting, instead of trying to copy/paste what everyone has seen.This is where I wish we could edit our comments.<br><br>Not only do you have WDAS doing mostly-new movies (I hesitate to say 'original') but you have Pixar doing them as well. Toy Story 4 was their last sequel for the foreseeable future, with them even eschewing the popular option of doing an Inside Out sequel for original projects.
I feel like people are overreacting in a way that suggests these remakes have far more power than they actually do. The studio that makes them is separate from every other studio. WDAS is still creating new content and will be for many, many years to come, long after the remakes have had their heyday.<br><br>If anything, the proliferation of superhero films is far more likely to drown out originality on that front: there are multiple studios doing it.Order I went with for the album<br><br>Everything I Need (Film Version)<br>Arthur		<br>Home Invasion (Bonus Track)<br>It Wasn't Meant To Be<br>Permission To Come Aboard<br>Ask the&#8239;Sea (Bonus Track)<br>Atlantean Soldiers<br>Ahab Waves (Bonus Track)<br>Saving Pops (Bonus Track)	Soundtrack	0	1<br>Swimming Lessons	<br>Kingdom of Atlantis<br>The Legend of Atlan	<br>The Ring of Fire	<br>What Does That Even Mean?Soundtrack	0	<br>Obligation (Bonus Track)	<br>Dunes (Bonus Track)	<br>Map In a Bottle<br>Mera&#8239;Montage	<br>The Black Manta	<br>Trench Engaged (From Kingdom of the Trench)	Soundtrack	0	<br>Reunited		<br>What Could Be Greater Than a King?<br>Suited and Booted		<br>Between Land and Sea		<br>He Commands the Sea	<br>Ocean To Ocean (feat. Rhea)	<br>Everything I Need		<br>Suited & Booted (Our Empire Remix)<br>The Black Manta (feat. Jim Davies) [Future Funk Squad Remix]<br>Atlantean Soldiers (Glen Nicholls 'March In Formation' Remix)	<br>Kingdom of Atlantis (Glen Nicholls 'Escape to Atlantis' Remix)Same here. The cue I want the most is “We Strike First”.@Edmund<br>I can’t agree enough. These remakes suffer from the issue of being inferior to the original source material, mainly because they rely so heavily on copying the originals so heavily. I’m not necessarily against Disney updating their classics if they are willing to do new takes on the material. Take Jungle Book for example; they were able to do something fresh with the concept while keeping elements of the animated film. Even Maleficent, which I’m not crazy about, tried something new. <br><br>Another BIG issue I’ve noticed is the fact that they lean towards hiring actors who cannot sing, or at least cannot sing on the level required. Emma Watson, Will Smith, Chiwetel Ejiofor, etc.Best shot <br>It wasnt meant to be<br>Home invasion<br>Ahab waves (0:39-end)<br>Permission to come aboard?<br>Ask the sea<br>Ahab waves (0:00-0:38)<br>Saving pops<br>Swimming lessons<br>Kingdom of atlantis<br>Legend of atlan<br>Ring of fire<br>What does that even mean?<br>Ocean to ocean<br>Obligation<br>Dunes<br>Map in a bottle<br>Black manta<br>Mera montage<br>Between land and sea<br>Trench engaged<br>What could be greater than a king?<br>Suited and booted<br>He commands the sea<br>Reunited<br>Everything i need<br><br>"Arthur" and "Atlantean Soldiers" are probably suites
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The Predator
Label: Lakeshore Records
Length: 54'57
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  1. Arrival (2:59)
  2. Discovery (3:05)
  3. Rory (1:32)
  4. Project Stargazer (2:01)
  5. Beautiful Specimen (1:37)
  6. Playing With Fire (1:11)
  7. Out Of The Cage (2:40)
  8. The Loonies (0:53)
  9. On The Loose (2:58)
  10. Another World (2:25)
  11. Rescue (1:55)
  12. Apex Predator (3:15)
  13. Damage Control (1:01)
  14. The Good Soldier (2:52)
  15. Team McKenna (1:31)
  16. The Ark Ship (2:18)
  17. Onslaught (1:22)
  18. Contact (2:07)
  19. The Hunt (3:36)
  20. The Sacrifice (1:35)
  21. Alien Abduction (1:27)
  22. The Last Stand (3:27)
  23. Man Vs. Predator (2:19)
  24. Remembrance (1:36)
  25. The Predator's Gift (3:02)
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2018-09-29 09:44:27
Henry has this big tendency on every single OST release to remix everything and remove a big deal of electronic layers & percussions (which is a very bad decision in my book, it's like Backdraft OST which has half of HZ's electronics removed)...

Keep the EP of that score, it has the cues "untouched". Have fun comparing them with the final OST tracks, you'll notice all that got removed in the process...


Meta2018-09-29 11:49:09
He took out his electronics? What? That's kinda what made his scores so good....They had a tempo and shit.


Edmund Meinerts2018-09-29 12:11:05
I actually kinda prefer the OST version of the cues for Backdraft...

Has Jackman done that on previous scores? I have to say I never noticed that before.


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-29 12:34:39
Pretty every single OST release since 2014...


John F2018-09-29 16:18:15
Wait Dirty Dozen is only on the EP as well?? Jeez why would they do that?


mpolonest123 2018-09-29 16:54:11
And that’s why you don’t take criticisms to heart. Winter Soldier was a genuinely good score that used its electronics effectively. That would be like Lorne Balfe ditching his writing style because some “purists” got upset at Mission Impossible.


Edmund Meinerts2018-09-29 18:13:16
I highly doubt that has anything to do with it. If anything, the lesson from that should have been "don't leave the best cue off the album" (the Dom Lewis arrangement of the main theme from the end credits)

(also that score is still terrible and the Winter Soldier theme is a disgrace)


mpolonest123 2019-07-12 18:04:51
Finally got around to seeing this film and I was shocked at how campy it really is. There is some genuinely funny writing courtesy of Shane Black, but all of that is undercut by some terrible CGI and that horrible ending. Pretty disappointed as someone who enjoyed the first two Predator films.

Henry Jackman’s score is functional, and I really admire that he kept the Silvestri flavor. That being said, much of the “hero” music actually took me out of the film. It’s one of those cases where the music on album flows really well but doesn’t always work 100% on screen. Another issue for me was the mixing. Whereas Debney’s score is mixed harsher with a more brutal, percussive edge,
this felt flat to me for some reason.

And going off of what Hybrid mentioned, there definitely were some cool electronic layers that were removed from the album. (The alpha predator motif for example)

Tomasz reply Replies: 1 || 2019-02-21 12:58:20
Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score?
Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?


Tomasz2019-02-28 20:58:17
Okej. Here some details about FYC:

01. Crash Arrival Pt. 1 (1:38)
02. Crash Arrival Pt. 2 (1:56)
03. Crash Arrival Pt. 3 (2:31)
04. Crash Arrival Pt. 4 (2:22)
05. Threats (1:30)
06. Meet Rory (0:38)
07. Ass Burger (1:02)
08. Grow Up (1:02)
09. Alien Tech (1:40)
10. Project Stargazer (2:16)
11. Beautiful MoFo (1:44)
12. Upgrade Arriving (1:12)
13. He's Awake (3:30)
14. Pred's On The Move (1:32)
15. Dirty 1_2 Dozen (0:55)
16. Chase Escaping Pred (3:58)
17. Trigger Happy (0:13)
18. Rory's New Mask (1:01)
19. Scare Bullies_Alien Bitches (1:01)
20. Upgrade Vs. Pred (3:24)
21. Damage Control (4:40)
22. Spectrum PTSD (1:02)
23. Spectrum DNA (0:57)
24. Traeger Arrives (1:11)
25. Acquisitions (1:12)
26. Follow Rory's Maps (2:14)
27. A Head (2:09)
28. We're Survivors (1:51)
29. Ark Ship (2:21)
30. Upgrade Joins Party (2:35)
31. Communication (0:51)
32. Join Forces (1:31)
33. Upgrade Hunts Pt. 1 (3:46)
34. Upgrade Hunts Pt. 2 (1:55)
35. Upgrade Takes Prize (1:32)
36. Forcefield Coming Online (3:35)
37. Final Fight (2:34)
38. Remembrance (1:22)
39. Reveal (3:34)

Total time: 76:19

Seems it's almost complete score. Anyone to confirm that?

Michael Fields reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-09 10:07:51
MOVIE CREDITS:

Music By
HENRY JACKMAN

Music Supervisors
DAVE JORDAN
TRYGGE TOVEN

Music Editors
PETER OSO SNELL
WILL KAPLAN

Assistant Music Editor
DeVAUGHN WATTS

Orchestra Conducted By
GAVIN GREENAWAY
STEPHEN COLEMAN
EDWARD TRYBEK

Orchestrated By
STEPHEN COLEMAN
EDWARD TRYBEK
HENRI WILKINSON

Music Preparation By
BOOKER WHITE (BTW PRODUCTIONS, INC.)

Orchestra Contracted By
PETER ROTTER

Choir Contracted & Conducted By
JASPER RANDALL

Score Recorded & Mixed By
ALAN MEYERSON

Digital Score Recordist
KEVIN GLOBERMAN

Additional Music By
MATTHEW MARGESON
ALEX BELCHER
EVAN GOLDMAN
HALLI CAUTHERY

Score Technical Engineers
MAVERICK DUGGER
FELIPE PACHECO
GAGE BOOZAN
FABIO MARKS

Music Production Services
MATTHEW K. JUSTMANN

Assistant To Henry Jackman
JOHN PAUL LEFEBVRE

Score Recorded At
THE NEWMAN SCORING STAGE, 20th CENTURY FOX POST PRODUCTION SERVICES

Newman Stage Engineer
ERIN MICHAEL RETTIG

Newman Recordist
TIM LAUBER

Newman Stage Managers
DAMON TEDESCO
CHRISTINE SIROIS
PETER NELSON

Score Mixed At
REMOTE CONTROL PRODUCTIONS

Score Mix Assistant
ALFREDO PASQUEL

Iamtommie reply Replies: 12 || 2018-09-13 18:34:26
I just watched the movie!! I heard a lot of Silvestri & I thought the music was awesome. It's, from what I could hear, in the same scoring style as Kong & Jumanji. I personally, really love his new kind of scoring. Awesome music!


ThePhantasm2018-09-14 06:12:04
Lakeshore records released an EP not an actual album. I'm so pissed. Should of been La-Land records releasing this. the EP literally has no more than 6 mins of music. I was so excited for this score


Mephariel2018-09-14 07:33:50
I just listened to "The Arrival." Awesome track. It totally captures the tone of the original score. I can't wait to hear the rest of the score.


Russel2018-09-14 09:47:42
Yeah, not sure why they're doing this, but a full album is supposedly releasing at the end of this month.

September 27th.


Meta2018-09-26 19:56:59
SO far everything I have heard from the EP pales in comparison to John Debneys efforts in "Predators".

Maybe they haven't released Jackman's insane genius queues yet....Here's hoping.


Anonymous2018-09-26 20:07:16
Remember... Debney's score was critized for be only ''copy and paste'' of the Silvestri's material.

Such underrated score, and The Predator is not exception


MrZimmerFan2018-09-26 20:12:46
Ugh, the last comment was me, i forget put the name in it :)


mpolonest123 2018-09-26 21:40:44
Debney’s score was definitely much more than a rehash of the original, although I can understand some of the criticisms that he didn’t necessarily bring much “new” material to the table. Still a kickass score though.

Based on the EP material it sounds like Jackman is putting more of his voice than what Debney did. And the “Dirty Dozen” material sounds fun, I’m hoping the rest holds up.


MrZimmerFan2018-09-27 11:05:11
When saw the movie the last week (was just fun), and there is a lot of Silvestri's mamerisms, and themes from the original Predator


MrZimmerFan2018-09-27 14:41:49
Out in New Zealand, different cover and posted tracklist

https:// itunes.apple.com/nz/album/the-predator- original-motion-picture- soundtrack/1437468436


MrZimmerFan2018-09-27 19:26:12
Well, now you can choose the artwork cover :)


mpolonest123 2018-09-28 15:20:30
Just took a listen and I’m liking the end result. It’s as if Jackman took the “flavor” of Alan Silvestri, but still kept his own writing style. I definitely hear a lot of Kong: Skull Island and the Captain America scores. One big surprise is the minimal use of electronics, especially compared to Debney.


Anonymous2018-09-28 20:29:49
@mpolonest123
I won't be surprised if he cut electronic stuff for the album versions. He's been doing that to his albums for almost everything since after Winter Soldier.

meho reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-28 14:54:21
John Debney`s Score was the Best!

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-09-26 12:45:12
01. Arrival
02. Traegar
03. Meet Rory
04. Project Stargazer
05. Beautiful Creature
06. Awakening
07. Predator on the Move
08. Dirty Dozen
09. Escape
10. Rory’s Mask
11. Where’s Rory?
12. Good Soldier
13. Spook the Bullies
14. Upgrade vs. Predator
15. Damage Control
16. DNA
17. Traegar Arrives
18. Acquisitions
19. Faceoff
20. We’re Survivors
21. Ark Ship
22. The Upgrade
23. Communication
24. Coming Online
25. Final Fight
26. Remembrance


Russel2018-09-27 20:10:58
Interesting, must have been an early version of the OST or something.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-09-18 17:44:23
Now there is rumours, the score can be released in 23th September


ThePhantasm2018-09-18 18:19:56
i thought it was gonna be the 28th

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 8 || 2018-09-08 20:21:22
While Henry Jackman isn’t my favorite composer out there I’m excited to
hear what he does with this. He’s proven that he can write similar to Silvestri with portions of the Captain America scores, and there is a clip on YouTube which features some of the score. It basically sounds like “Predator” with some electronics overlaid.


ThePhantasm2018-09-08 21:59:50
Yo for real, I've been dying for some info but damn nothing so far. I hope the cover album is good too


Anonymous2018-09-09 01:08:45
it’s orobably gonna be the one with the orange background and the bigger predator holding the smaller predators skull


ThePhantasm2018-09-09 06:46:02
I hope you're right cause that one looks good as hell


Anonymous2018-09-11 01:02:46
called it


mpolonest123 2018-09-11 01:04:43
Lol good call! That’s a pretty cool cover.


ThePhantasm2018-09-13 06:20:21
HOLY SHIT!!! I just heard the first track from the soundtrack called The Arrival wow just wow. It's a different type of Jackman. Sounds incredible now I'm really hyped. It's on soundcloud if you guys want to hear it as well


MrZimmerFan2018-09-13 08:39:26
The score won't be released until 28th September, tomorrow is a EP


The Phantom2018-09-13 09:35:43
@the phantasm

calm urself. I mean it’s ok at best.

Jean-Luc reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-10 15:47:25
I heard the predator will have 16 or 25 tracks in the soundtrack like Logan soundtrack, but that's how Lakeshore Records did like right now. In my opinion, I think the predator 2018 is better fit for La-La Land Records & Var&#232;se Sarabande for limited edition like last time with original predator, predator 2 and predators too.

Mephariel reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-09 22:00:11
Interesting description of the score:

"A playful score by Henry Jackman (X-Men: First Class) maintains a playful tone while making a few nods to the original."

-Hollywood Reporter

So maybe Silvestri's theme will appear in some capacity. But playful is not how I imagined the score to be. This might be a good thing.


Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-08 19:58:15
What’s the status on his when is it getting released. Movie comes out in 6 days.

Jean-Luc reply Replies: 2 || 2018-08-31 15:58:41
Haven't you found out about the predator final trailer online on YouTube today? It's really good & brutal trailer and did you hear background music by Henry Jackson or different music.


MrZimmerFan2018-08-31 17:26:17
Nop, i don't think the musuc in that is part of the score


Jean-Luc 2018-08-31 21:45:57
Ok, thank you let me know about it! that trailer music sound like battlefield 4 or rock music

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2018-08-10 18:50:12
jackman better include silvestri’s original themes


ThePhantasm2018-08-10 20:21:37
He's a fan of Silvestris score for Predator 2 I'm sure he'll use it. this and MI Fallout are my most anticipated scores this year


da2018-08-27 21:08:00
actually i dont like Jackman music, i am played Uncharted 4 his music is not good. He compose legendary game but he doesnt not hard working. I guess he accept the job '' okey lets do something'' and he crap music.. This is my perspective of Henry.

tilibro reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-27 06:27:48
Really looking forward to this movie and score.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-07-24 23:24:30
Between The Darkest Minds and The Meg, one of the my most anticipate scores

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