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Mission Impossible 7 AND 8 has just been announced.
Balfes score for Fallout was the best of the series .Not sure how he beats that’s score
Edmund Meinerts
2019-01-15 12:37:32
I'm hoping for the return of Kraemer but that's sure to be an unpopular opinion around here
Martine
2019-01-15 17:30:20
From the way the director and editor talks about Balfe and his music On the DVD I doubt they would ever get Kraemer back.Even Cruise has said it’s the best Mission soundtrack they have ever had .
The score to Fallout makes the film which the last time I felt this was Dunkirk.
mpolonest123
2019-01-15 18:04:59
@Edmund Not at all! I think Kraemer’s score honestly is one of the best in the series, especially with the way he approached the material. On the same token though, I am also a massive fan of what Balfe did. A different approach for sure, but it still helped elevate the film much in the way Fury Road’s score did for that film.
Personally though, I feel like bringing a new composer on board to give a different take would be the most ideal, but that’s just me.
Andrew
2019-01-15 19:36:07
Rogue Nation was a great soundtrack but Fallout has to be one of the best action scores since The Dark Knight.I hope they keep Balfe on for the next 2 films
Jason
2019-01-15 21:05:08
I honestly love stairs and rooftops that track I could listen to that segment from about 3:25-4:20 over and over again. so I hope balfe does it again
Jason
2019-01-15 21:05:40
was that segment in any of the bounus tracks? from LALA LAnd.
Peter
2019-01-15 22:48:52
Stairs and rooftops is a fantastic track.Does anyone know why Kraemer wasn’t used?
Anonymous
2019-01-16 01:00:39
@ Jason Stairs & Rooftops was a standard track not a bonus
@ Peter cruise wanted a different composer and director for every film so they all have a different feel. McQuarrie made history there as the first filmmaker to do 2 M:I films
Quantum
2019-01-16 01:10:44
I liked Fallout but Rogue Nation is where it's at. I wish Kraemer could return :/
Moggyman
2019-01-16 01:54:01
I think that it's ridiculous that there is going to be a mission impossible 7 & 8. Hopefully, these are going to be the last ones and that they end on a high note. I do want Balfe back if they are going to make these films.
Scorefan
2019-01-16 01:58:31
MI5 Rogue Nation was a completely breath of fresh air in the series. Thanks to McQuarry and of course Cruise. But also, Kramer take the music in a new level and for me it's one of the best scores in the series. Balfe elevate the music to the netx level. No one doubt is the best in the series, even Balfe took some motifs from Giacchino's scores. So if Balfe return it would be awesome hear what could be the next level in his music, but if Kramer returns, is sure he will take the music to all new level. One of the things Cruise take care in the series is the music, he has a good ear, so many people were surprised when he choose Balfe to score the film.
AntonFilm
2019-01-16 04:44:06
I would rather Balfe do the next Bond.
Jason
2019-01-16 08:09:03
I was meaning in addition to stairs and rooftops is there any other segments that play that part
Mephariel
2019-01-16 19:13:33
Personally, I do not want Balfe or Kraemer to return. I found Kraemer's score to be too restrained, and while Balfe's score is exciting, when I watched the film, I thought the music worn out quickly by the middle of the film. Too much of the same orchestrations.
I hope they go with someone new.
Mike
2019-01-17 01:52:56
I think Balfe has to come back because Fallout was the first since Mission 2 the music worked.He made Lalo’s theme sound modern and cool.
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2019-01-17 07:25:35
Modern and cool? Seriously Balfe is the reason why the theme works? Let’s have balfe re write Star Wars to make it modern and cool.
Mike
2019-01-17 10:13:18
Now that would be an interesting to hear what he could do with Star Wars
Edmund Meinerts
2019-01-17 11:42:45
Lalo Schifrin certainly didn't need Lorne Balfe to make him sound cool.
rockhound
2019-01-17 13:17:49
...but modern
Mephariel
2019-01-17 17:04:09
If you want modern, have Ludwig Göransson score the movie. Him or Don Davis. If you want to stick with RCP, I would love to see Benjamin Wallfisch take a stab at it based on his work on King of Thieves.
FilmAndyM
2019-01-17 19:28:30
Have to agree about Balfe and Fallout being the best mission score.would be interesting to see what he would do with bond or even Star Wars. There seems to be comments on twitter that Balfe will be doing the score live at the The Royal Albert Hall.anyone know ?
HunterTech
2019-01-20 11:03:23
Assuming McQ changing up the crew for newer installments applies to the composers too, I'd certainly like to see someone else take the mantle. Would be interesting to see David Arnold tackle a different sort of spy film, or John Ottman taking a stab at it.
Though if anyone were to return, it'll likely be Balfe, just from all the buzz Fallout got. Would love to see Kraemer again, but the supposed BTS issues make that unlikely.
Balfe is what in the 80s you might have called a TV composer. He has skills to get the job done but no imagination on anything. There'll be a few live bongos in the next film, a lot of supposedly live brass that sounds exactly like my keyboard, and no imagination.
That's the seemingly Chris Nolan way they want to go here. But if McQuarrie and Cruise are sticking to their mandate on making every film different, well how about (they are not going to go full Lathimos whatever), trying the Jeremy Dyson way, and go for Frank Ilfman. How about being more creative, Mansell has burned his bridges but still does excellent music but how about Richter, he can do anything, or even a Murray Gold. If you hire a pointless HZ flunkie, we'll get someone good, This used to be fine, but now with these dingdongs it is increasingly difficult
Peter
2019-01-18 01:17:01
Meistermind - what’s wrong with being a TV composer ?
You sound like those idiots on Film music forum that think they know so much .The keyboard comment is exactly the nonsense said.
Fallout is one of the best action films ever in my opinion with a brilliant soundtrack.
Jason
2019-01-18 06:16:01
JohnWilliams Started out or rather got more into the realm of composing being doing Tv SHows
Ds
2019-01-18 11:02:47
Saying Balfe has no imagination is beyond stupid. Take a listen at some of his work on animated movies (Home, or his work on KFP2-3), it's definitely not to work of someone without imagination.
On Fallout in particular, I honestly think he makes the best use of the classic themes in the series. That's maybe not "imaginative", as these themes aren't his, but it's definitely clever and not something every composer can do. Even an experienced guy like Michael Giacchino had 2 stabs at this franchise, and yet failed not only to give a memorable score, but also failed in using these classic themes in such a fun way.
HunterTech
2019-01-20 10:58:33
You seriously mean to tell me "Light The Fuse" isn't fun or creative in the slightest? Probably is my favorite rendition of theme regarding just the films. III was certainly dull, but GP proved Gia had a voice for the series.
Balfe does do some cool things with The Plot, but I fail to see how his renditions of the main theme add anything new. Even the epic choir gets mostly dialed out in the final film. They're perfectly solid, but nothing that I'd say is great.
In my opinion this soundtrack is very different than the others. Six films and five composers, with a different styles and this soundtrack is very different. For me it's a great soundtrack but the sound is too similar at the dark Knight and Dunkirk.
BrianK
2019-01-17 21:48:29
Balfe did produce both !!!!!!!!!!so ofcause they would sound related Fallout was an excellent film and great soundtrack
Hybrid, I'm wondering when you gonna add Lorne's Florida Project to the website. I know it's only one cue and it's actually an arrangement of Celebration, but I really like the film and this cue.
Anonymous
2018-12-02 17:42:45
i wonder when we’re gonna get mission impossible complete
Have any of the slate titles surfaced for this? Would be useful when dividing up that (brilliant!) isolated score into tracks. Got it off iTunes earlier this week and pretty much been on repeat all week, so awesome.
...
2018-11-10 11:20:31
What quality does the isolated score from iTunes have?
antovolk
2018-11-10 13:55:01
I believe it's stereo at around 160kbps (since it's a stream from iTunes Extras)
Anonymous
2018-11-10 15:06:34
ur kidding. is it like the last jedi? why cant it be in surround sound
Ahmad
2018-11-10 16:50:02
I wonder what the quality on the disc will be like but definitely not expecting lossless. Three commentaries and the isolated score and language tracks. That's a lot and the movie is not short lol.
In general, I don't think we're missing much to begin with (but it's really cool and should be done more often). There's a cool bit where the "Syndicate" theme was used I think in the film version of "Escape Through Paris" and the album version doesn't have that bit.
antovolk
2018-11-10 17:41:38
@Anonymous on the Blu-ray it should have surround sound. Just that it's out on iTunes in Australia already - which is how I got it - and iTunes bonus features are obviously only in stereo.
@Ahmad - the benefit here is really all the film version edits of the cues we already have on the album. And some of them are quite different from the album ones....
The tracklist I came up with for now for the iso score. Total runtime is 2:08:16.
A Storm Is Coming (Logos) / Julia / Good Evening, Mr. Hunt 4:51 Self-Destruct 0:23 Plutonium Trade / A Terrible Choice 6:14 The Manifesto 1:46 Fallout (Main Titles) / Your Mission (Part 1) 2:07 Your Mission (Part 2) 2:21 Free Fall (Part 1) 1:57 Free Fall (Part 2) 2:14 Grand Palais / Consequences Of Love 2:01 Bathroom 6:12 No Pain, No Gain (Outro) / As Ugly As They Come 2:09 I'll See You In My Dreams / Widow Bar 2:33 The White Widow / Should You Choose To Accept... 5:38 Busy Day Tomorrow 0:41 Framing Ethan / The Exchange 6:37 Escape Through Paris 6:11 Steps Ahead 1:11 Je Suis Désolé 1:04 Unfinished Business 0:34 Did You Ever Choose Not To? 1:51 You're Mine Now 0:30 We Are Never Free 4:52 Widow In London 1:45 Trapped 3:14 The Mission Is Terminated 2:02 No Hard Feelings / The Exhortation 6:46 Stairs & Rooftops 6:25 Kashmir 7:10 Julia (Reprise) / Fate Whispers To The Warrior 5:06 And The Warrior Whispers Back 8:20 I Am The Storm (Part 1) 4:12 I Am The Storm (Part 2) 1:21 Scalpel & Hammer 3:47 Cutting On One 1:25 The Last Resort 1:48 There's No Reason To Be Sorry / Mission: Accomplished (Curtain Call) 4:51 End Credits 6:28
Anonymous
2018-11-25 08:43:35
@hybrid soldier
is there going to be a page for the complete score?
I wish Mission Impossible Fallout Blu ray & 4k ultra supposed not come out in December, 4th because it's too long for two months, but November is perfect timing before thanksgiving start. In my opinion is a digital HD should come out early in November, 6th, then Blu ray combo & 4k ultra come out in November, 16th will be a perfect for sale price before black Friday start. I'm can't wait to watch commentary by composer Lorne Balfe by bonus features.
Hey guys, I may be wrong, but I was just re-listening to the score for the umpteenth time and I noticed what may be a callback to M:I-2. Very faintly, on track "The White Widow" at 3:00 in, sounds a lot like the beginning of "Bare Island" from M:I-2. It lasts for about 45 seconds, and I only heard it when I was listening to it a little louder than usual with my noise cancelling headphones.
Oh, wow! One of the bonus features on the upcoming BluRay of the movie is "Commentary by composer Lorne Balfe". I'm happy they did that. DVD commentaries with composers are extremely rare. So I'm definitely looking forward to that one.
Had a go at putting together a chronological order after seeing the film again today...looks like also a lot of editing was done in the film versions of the score cues.
A Storm Is Coming (Logos) Should You Choose To Accept... Good Evening, Mr. Hunt A Terrible Choice The Manifesto Fallout (Main Titles) Your Mission Free Fall The White Widow The Exchange Change of Plan (that's the only cue I can't place...could go before/after No Hard Feelings?) Escape Through Paris I Am The Storm (another one I can't seem to place) Steps Ahead We Are Never Free No Hard Feelings Stairs and Rooftops Kashmir Fate Whispers To The Warrior The Warrior Whispers Back Unfinished Business Scalpel and Hammer (lol at that mistake in the tracklist) Cutting on One The Last Resort Mission: Accomplished (Curtain Call) The Syndicate (Suite)
antovolk
2018-07-27 15:53:16
Finally have a chronological order down A Storm Is Coming (Logos) Should You Choose To Accept... Good Evening, Mr. Hunt A Terrible Choice The Manifesto Fallout (Main Titles) Your Mission Free Fall The White Widow The Exchange Escape Through Paris Steps Ahead We Are Never Free No Hard Feelings Stairs and Rooftops Kashmir Fate Whispers To The Warrior The Warrior Whispers Back Unfinished Business I Am The Storm Scalpel and Hammer Cutting on One The Last Resort Mission: Accomplished (Curtain Call) Change of Plan (not in film) The Syndicate (not in film)
Hybrid Soldier
2018-08-03 11:15:51
For your information, Change of Plan & The Syndicate are not "suites" or anything. They're actual cues from scenes that got edited out in the film...
Anonymous
2018-08-03 13:50:25
either way they are still unused and rightfully placed chronologically
Hybrid Soldier
2018-08-03 15:13:42
Oh yeah I'm not saying the contrary.
I agree with the chronological above, despite the many editings in the film and or the released cues. Let me add the bonus cues in it :
A Storm Is Coming Should You Choose To Accept... Good Evening, Mr. Hunt A Terrible Choice The Manifesto Fallout Your Mission Free Fall As Ugly As They Come The White Widow Framing Ethan The Exchange Escape Through Paris Steps Ahead Je Suis Désolé We Are Never Free Trapped This Mission Is Terminated No Hard Feelings Stairs And Rooftops Kashmir Fate Whispers To The Warrior The Warrior Whispers Back Unfinished Business I Am The Storm Scalpel And Hammer Cutting On One The Last Resort Mission: Accomplished Plutonium Trade (Alternate of second part of A Terrible Choice) Change Of Plan (Unused, most likely an alternate of The Exchange) The Syndicate (Unused)
...
2018-08-04 02:40:36
With the bonus cues, is this more or less complete or is there still a lot missing?
...
2018-08-04 03:06:14
And what would be the best listening experience? Chronological or how it’s presented on the ost?
Hybrid Soldier
2018-08-04 09:22:24
I'd say 90% complete... A couple of cues missing, nothing of real interest.
Chronological is way better, for sure.
...
2018-08-04 11:36:47
Are these bonus tracks only available at the end of August?
Ahmad
2018-09-24 21:27:28
FYI:
I AM THE STORM comes after SCALPEL AND HAMMER.
Gotta get my hands on the physical copy. Curious to hear the bonus tracks.
Ahmad
2018-09-24 21:29:25
Oh wait... SCALPEL AND HAMMER is a combinations of two cues and I AM THE STORM is sort of in the middle :D
I liked (not loved) what I heard on the CD, but it was nothing compared to the cinema experience. The score is incredibly tense, louuuuud in the best of ways, and is an absolute delight on picture. Now I understand all the praise Lorne got for it. Totally deserved.
Best score of the franchise, beaten only by HZ's Injection. Kraemer is not far behind, but definitely behind.
SPECTER
2018-07-31 02:30:40
was there any material from Hans' MI:2 score reused or referenced in this film. I haven't seen the film yet.
Screenworks
2018-07-31 07:52:58
Balfe references Zimmer's "Mombasa" from Inception heavily in "The Exchange". It's practically stolen.
Ds
2018-07-31 13:06:36
@Screenworks: Indeed. But given Balfe's involvement on Inception, I wouldn't call that "stolen". If you take money from your own wallet, do you consider yourself as a thief?
@SPECTER: no, no reprisal of HZ material from MI2. However it's heavily influenced by the sound and rythmic pattern of TDKR and Inception.
Edmund Meinerts
2018-07-31 13:27:45
I guess it's not stealing (because Balfe's not about to sue himself and Zimmer's not about to sue an employee :p ), but it could still be considered lazy or inflexible. James Horner took plenty of crap over the years for his, shall we say, self-references (rightfully so).
screenworks
2018-09-10 08:33:29
Syncopy and WB paid him for the inception score and own the rights, whereas Cruise/Wagner and Paramount paid for the MI score and own those rights. So in a technical sort of way, it's kind of stealing. But it's also art, so there will always be influences.
Sorry for mabey spoiling a little bit. But does sombody know the soundtrack of the bit when Ethan is climbing the rope to the helicopter. You can check out the clip in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJtLDmm2ds8
Its the first 20 seconds. Thankyou already for helping me :).
Just to throw my 2 cents into the ring; just finished the film and was blown away. Easily the best action I’ve seen since Fury Road. And Balfe’s score works incredibly well, just as well as Kraemer’s. This may even be my favorite Lorne Balfe score now.
mpolonest123
2018-08-05 02:01:29
One thing I did notice however...
There are ALOT of edits to Balfe score throughout, especially in the opening 15 minutes. Certain pieces are either chopped apart or dialed out. I’m wondering if some of the album cues are made up of smaller cues or were just edited heavily for the film (which isn’t necessarily bad, the silence in certain scenes worked well)
Have you guys been following what's happening with Lorne and @SoundtrackMemes on twitter? That guy has been harassing Lorne since MI:Fallout soundtrack released. I can't believe how patient and restrained Lorne is with that guy. He clearly is an asshole. I would've simply blocked him but Lorne has been completely civil and even invited that guy to the next recording session!!! Lorne gets so much hatred on twitter and yet he always has been gracious in his replies.
Hybrid Soldier
2018-08-04 14:25:22
You should listen the interview I put front page of the site. Lorne adresses the "haterz" issue... :)
Edmund Meinerts
2018-08-04 16:36:56
I'm not on Twitter much but I know the guy who's behind @SoundtrackMemes, he's a bit of an idiot...
Rogue Nation was amazing but he has beaten it for sure . Balfe for Bond next !!!!
ThePhantasm
2018-08-02 07:26:03
Yep same for me, for some reason i can't stop listening to it. My favorites are Free Fall, Escape through Paris, and Stairs and Rooftop. I keep coming back to the score. I hope they keep him for the next one
So Lorne Balfe just sais he's working on a big game this summer that everyone plays i wonder which one it is. Here's a link to the interview it's in the beginning https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=35&v=pITI6Abw_S4
BrianH
2018-07-30 06:58:17
just got out of the cinema and Balfe did an amazing job.
"Lorne Balfe's sharp reorchestrations of Lalo Schifrin's original themes nicely further the cause throughout"
"similar to much of The Dark Knight’s looming urban warfare, and Lorne Balfe’s score swells and thrums and booms in similarly epic proportions. He’s an acolyte of Nolan familiar Hans Zimmer, a fact you can hear in every chord that approaches “bwaaamp.”"
"pulse-quickening score (reinvented here in brilliant ways by composer Lorne Balfe, with completely surprising instruments and orchestrations that barely allow a moment’s calm"
"We should also take time to single out Lorne Balfe’s monster of a score, which takes Lalo Schifrin’s familiar Mission: Impossible theme and twists it into a cantankerous, thundering backwash that recalls the ominous impact of Hans Zimmer’s work on The Dark Knight. Just how pivotal the music is to Fallout’s suspense shouldn’t be underestimated"
Let's get the hype started!
Chris
2018-07-28 09:34:39
I really liked the score to Fallout, love the various variations of the MI theme. I really liked Lorne's score to Ghost in the Shell as well. I do have a question what music is played as source music in the Paris club?
Looks like Lorne kept some of Kraemer’s material for this one. Gotta love thematic consistency...
George
2018-07-14 04:44:43
The first two tracks are good, then it gets a bit generic for awhile... but once you get to I Am The Storm, the rest of the score is amazing. I love it.
mpolonest123
2018-07-14 14:32:26
Initially I was disappointed that the style was a complete 180 from Rogue Nation (which is an incredible score), but I find myself liking the music more and more with each listen. Imagine Fury Road, Inception, and Mission Impossible thrown into a blender and you get this.
mpolonest123
2018-07-14 14:33:29
Lorne also uses Saito’s motif from Inception almost verbatim...
isildur
2018-07-14 15:35:52
Stairs and Rooftops is kick ass. What are those drums used in this? They are used throughout the score.
mpolonest123
2018-07-15 16:26:13
One thing I can definitely say about this is, while the instrumentation sounds synthetic most of the time (something in most Balfe scores) there is more energy in the 95 minutes on album than most action scores nowadays, probably the most since Fury Road.
And of course the “traditionalists” are really hating it, which means it must work wonders in context.
Peter
2018-07-15 19:53:51
The purists than keep moaning missing Joe Kramer have not got a clue.they are living in the past and not thinking about the film.Fallout sound big and Epic and watching the HALO jump scene the music works perfectly .The reviewers have raved about the score and the film makers think at the best score from the franchise .
Iamtommie
2018-07-15 20:13:34
I think most people listen to this score with a Rogue Nation kind of movie in their heads. But it's a very different kind of movie en the score works perfectly in the movie i.m.o.
mpolonest123
2018-07-15 21:12:07
Right, which is why I’m ok with this. Look, I love the score for Rogue Nation as much as everyone else, but I still kept an open mind and was surprised that I enjoyed Fallout as much as I did, regardless of the influences.
Iamtommie
2018-07-15 22:46:37
I actually always listen to a new score with an open mind. If I start expecting something and the score doesn't sound like it or doesn't have a certain thing in it I will always be dissappointed. If I don't expect anything and it turns out a score is a dissappointment, it's not such a big deal.
For example: A lot of people wanted/expected a lot of individual hero themes in Infinity War. I didn't think it was necessary and I'm absolutely in love with the score.
And in the cause of reprising themes from 30+ different character in a score of 2 hours would have been chaos. If you're talking about LOTR and themes, that's different story. Those scores were almost all 3 or 4 hours.
But all and all. I don't think this is a better score than RN, but I don't think it's a bad score. It fits the movie, and I think that's what a score is all about
Marco
2018-07-15 23:08:43
None of Kraemer’s music is reused! Thematic consistency says what?
HunterTech
2018-07-16 02:54:18
Um.....guys, why are we acting like Kraemer doesn't have the skill to do a different sort of score? I'm fairly positive Jack Reacher doesn't sound anything like RN. Really, the reason he wasn't brought in was because, apparently, McQuarrie was pissed that he was overruled in how he wanted the film to sound, so be deliberately chose not to hire him this time. Purely a thing of spite. And a lot of the disappointment lies in those who normally don't pay attention to film music, which shows just how special that particular score was.
Really, I'm confident that had McQ had his way this time, and with Kraemer on board, he would've made something that did fit the new tone of the film. Composers should be able to challenge themselves to do something that is out of their comfort. Which is likely why a lot of Zimmer scores are the way they are, since he's allowed to differentiate every once and a while.
As is, with this logic, Cruise should not have hired McQ again if he wanted a different kind of movie for Fallout.
antovolk
2018-07-16 09:48:01
@HunterTech - McQ said at every opportunity that a condition of his coming back would be making MI Fallout as if a different director was doing it. Which is why he got a new DoP, new composer, new costume designer etc
HunterTech
2018-07-16 11:04:50
So.......why not get a new director then? I admire his efforts in trying to attempt something different for every sequel, but he's eventually gonna get tired if he keeps coming back. Plus, there's been evidence that surfaced to suggest that there was a very specific reason in Kraemer not returning, which don't necessarily contradict what McQ is saying here.
Despite all this, I'm very excited for Fallout as a whole. I've been able to enjoy films with disappointing scores before (*cough*BR2049*cough*).
antovolk
2018-07-16 14:45:14
@HunterTech - because Cruise and the studio *really* wanted him back after Rogue Nation's success, despite the producers' initial plan for the franchise being to have each entry done by a different director. Hence, McQuarrie's condition that he'll be back as long as he does a completely different film.
And context is important because once you realise the *film itself* is heavily influenced by Nolan with a big dash of Fury Road-esque building action momentum, then the decision to have Balfe on board and the score to sound all Zimmer/RCP as opposed to more symphonic a-la Kraemer/Giacchino makes sense.
Emile
2018-07-16 21:58:28
Balfe haters will hate this !!!
But it’s amazing .
It’s emotional then EPIC!
superultramegaa
2018-07-16 22:05:55
^^
For the sake of fairness, I think the admins should delete both the guys spamming the thread with whining, as well as the Balfe-bots spamming the thread with positivity while simultaneously denouncing "haters." (This does not apply to most people in the thread, but you know who I mean.)
Hybrid Soldier
2018-07-16 22:12:22
This place is not exactly a democracy, if something is not of my liking I get rid of it. Plain & simple.
AndrewP
2018-07-17 01:53:18
So if I say I love the score and it’s amazing then I’m a bot !!!!!!!!! What a rediculois theory
superultramegaa
2018-07-17 04:05:04
...that response only made you look more suspicious, as it was so pre-programmed feeling.
MrZimmerFan
2018-07-18 11:22:59
It's the first action score by Balfe i didn't hate this year, thank god!
It's not the best thing in years, but is a fun action score (Free Fall and Escape Through Paris, are good action tracks), plus, altough is 96 minutes, never get bored
MichaelP
2018-07-19 23:17:45
I asked Balfe on Facebook if he used any of Kraemers theme and he said no
Mephariel
2018-07-20 02:10:39
I believe him as I didn't hear anything from Kraemer.
ThePhantasm
2018-07-20 06:32:49
Say what you want about Balfe but he's a really nice guy, and always answers my questions on FB and others on twitter.
George
2018-07-20 06:47:42
I agree! He actually invited me to come to a recording session in London for this film, man it killed me that I couldn’t afford to go. But I was so thankful he even thought to ask! Top notch guy.
mpolonest123
2018-07-20 14:25:05
I could have sworn I had heard the Solomon theme and some of the same Chords that Kraemer had used... My mistake lol
And Balfe does seem like a genuinely nice person. Hell he even takes the time to put out unreleased music, not something most composers do. That is exactly why I hate when people take personal jabs at composers (usually at Junkie XL for some reason). It’s fine to not like the music, everyone has different tastes, but don’t criticize a composer for writing what he was asked to write.
Olive
2018-07-21 02:28:17
Badelt's "Solomon"?
This must be the "famous" Dark Knight reference that the "critics" are talking about.
Why is people saying that Balfe kept some original music from Kraemer? I have listened to the whole score and I didn't found any quotes. Maybe in The Syndicate there is some kind of reference to Kraemer's theme but I don't really know.
And I have to say that I was expecting Balfe to shine on this one, but I ended up disappointed. There are some great action cues, and I like some things he does with the main theme like the use of choir, but the score as a whole feels like a reuse of many things I have already heard and ends up feeling repetitive and a bit boring. And note that this is my opinion so don't jump into my neck saying this is the best score in the saga, because I think Rogue Nation is a really big step above this. I hope that at least it works in the context of the movie, which I suppose it does really well...