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Same question here, is concert in Poland even concidered to occur?if the link doesn't work for some reason, the song is called Cliffhanger Sky High on youtubeHi All, sorry it took so long to upload, My friend helped me set up a youtube channel to upload tracks to. I am very inspired by the classic Zimmer Scores of the 90's. I envisioned A climactic rescue aboard A speeding train for this particular cue.<br>https://youtu.be/4WyMIcpqMRk <br>I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.<br>===============<br><br>No one dragged anything. <br><br>I briefly mentioned that franchise, among many other things you conveniently ignored (you do that a lot), to prove a simple point: that a director doesn't get to make 5 movies from the same franchise if people aren't enjoying his work. Simple as that. I never talked about the "quality" of each of those movies. Go see the comment again.<br><br>YOU picked up on this and started talking obsessively about the TF. <br><br><br>==============<br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes. <br>==============<br><br>Look at your first comment here, pal. Look at it good! Snarky, dismissive, almost trollish, and with a clear intention to provoke people. Let me quote it: "Another day, another Bay film that doesn't know what fun is." <br><br>I only "go after" people who can't share their opinions in a respectful, mature way. There are a lot of comments here I disagreed with. But I never confronted those people. Why? Because they know how to properly share an opinion. <br><br>I only go after people who provoke, make fun of someone/something and troll. I've never "attacked" a person who didn't deserve that kind of response. My post history here speaks for itself. <br><br><br>===================<br>And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br>===================<br><br>Nope. Not even close. <br><br>You're just bitter that I'm using quotes from proven, talented people like Spielberg who support Bay. What quotes can your side use? Just quotes from knucklehead film bloggers and critics who hate half of what Hollywood makes. <br><br>No one with an actual integrity and knowledge of the film business can dismiss what Bay has accomplished. You may not like his stuff, but to completely dismiss him as a filmmaker is.......moronic. Truth is, it's only small fries on the internet who are angry that their favorite mid-level directors aren't as big and successful as Bay.<br><br>That's really the bottom line. <br><br>Speaking of that, who is YOUR favorite filmmaker? Go ahead, share it with us. Let's see who is that PERFECT filmmaker you drool over.<br><br>I'm really curious.<br><br>==============<br>By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films. But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br>==============<br><br>Huh??<br><br>When did I said that box office success or box office failure means that a movie is good or bad?? I never that. So if you don't mind, stop putting words in my mouth.<br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>==================<br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't<br>==================<br><br><br>Kinda ironic coming from the person who ignored the majority of the stuff I said here. Careful cherry-picking, convenient ignoring of stuff, and putting words in my mouth is apparently what you like to do. <br><br><br>================<br>What do you mean "next time?" Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.<br>================<br><br>Uhhhh, that's because it IS a joke. Because it is not true and because it was posted with the clear intention to provoke. You are the Negative Nancy here, my friend. Not me. Jesus Christ, even your nickname tells people exactly what they can expect from you......"Cynical Makooti". <br><br><br>====================<br>I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument<br>====================<br><br>Oh, that's true....................you're certainly not winning this argument. I mean, that's obvious. <br><br>And..... I never posted a lie. Just because "your sources" claim something different doesn't mean it's the truth. Pacific Rim wasn't a success - considering the huge expactations and the fact that the movie's budget is $200 freakin' million - and they DID try to start a franchise with 300. They failed. <br><br><br>================<br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br>================<br><br>That's rich. Coming from the guy who calls himself "Cynical Makooti". The guy who now plays the victim, even though he was the one who started this with a childish, trollish comment. <br><br>Look at my first reply to you. I was jokingly mimicking your style. Intentionally. Then you tried to be a smartass with your next reply. But EVEN THEN, I responded in a normal way with my second post. After that........you unleashed your true self. <br><br>And now, you're acting like the victim: "Poor me, being attacked by a crazy Bay fan!" <br><br>So please, don't talk about self-awareness. It ain't working.<br><br><br><br>================<br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br>================<br><br>Haha, maybe you should read more Forbes. Take a look at what they said about the entire (already failed) Pac Rim universe. Read a bit more on how much money the studio lost from the first flick and why they actually went with a sequel. It ain't because the first one was a beloved hit. <br><br><br>=======<br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves. That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br>=======<br><br>Okay, I believe you. Now, would you please share the link to that statement from Paramount. <br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>=============<br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br>=============<br><br>Hey, it's certainly a better and more reasonable place than your world. A world where you completely dismiss and ignore the accomplishments of one of the biggest filmmakers out there.<br><br>What's your next claim? <br><br>That Donnie Trump is the best President in history?<br><br><br>Have a nice day!Do any of you think that Junkie's Justice League score will ever get released or leaked? I was really excited to hear how Junkie planned on developing the themes used in the prior DCEU movies. Especially the Batman themes from BVS. It's a damn shame how WB handled that film.
"Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1."<br><br>Newsflash: I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.  Only then did I treat them as fair game.  Considering they make up a third of his filmography, I don't see why I SHOULDN'T address them.  How convenient is it that bringing them up is only ever valid when YOU do it?<br><br>More to the point, I already said I thought his decline kicked in from Pearl Harbor onwards.  The TF films are just his rock bottom.<br><br>"So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic."<br><br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes.  And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br><br>Pain & Gain and 13 Hours, his supposedly best films, also have his lowest box office turnouts.  13 Hours was a flat-out bomb.  By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films.  But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br><br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't.<br><br>"Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything."<br><br>What do you mean "next time?"  Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.  You already have this method down.  You're just too dishonest to admit it.<br><br>Notice how I avoided accusing you of anything until AFTER you started outright lying about movies and flaunting it as objective fact.<br><br>You insulted ME first, pal.  I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument.  Not for your opinions, not for your celebrity crush, for being a disingenuous twat. <br><br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br><br>"Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality."<br><br>Then it's a good thing I never quoted a single one of those, let alone as objective proof, isn't it?<br><br>Man, appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, mistaking correlation for causation, slothful induction, strawmanning, I could make a bingo game outta this.<br><br>"So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?"<br><br>Not "according to me."  According to the studios that make the actual films.  And Forbes.  Remember Forbes?  You considered their word inarguable fact a couple posts ago.<br><br>https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/09/02/pacif ic-rim-and-more-domestic-flops-that-became-global-hits/#3f3e 914d7c18<br><br>Well whaddaya know?<br><br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br><br>That thing you said TF5 was but actually wasn't.<br><br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves.  That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br><br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br><br>Wow!  Just wow!ThxSeville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.Can we stop? I agree with the other guy more in his points, but it's clear that this is gonna keep going nowhere if you're gonna be so overly defensive about something that you claim is merely subjective.But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br>======================<br><br><br>Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1. <br><br>So no, "challenging the viewer" is not about Transformers. You chose to focus on these movies. Not me. I was actually reffering to Bay movies like The Island and especially Pain and Gain. <br><br>But I guess you like to talk only about Transformers.....Good for you. But that's not how a discussion works. <br><br><br>===================<br>Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br>===================<br><br><br>So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic? <br><br>Wow! Just wow!<br><br>Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything. For you, that is apparently the normal behavior.<br><br><br>======<br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.<br>=======<br><br>Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality. Also, a "bad" movie to you is the greatest movie for the guy walking next to you on the street. As Kevin Smith said: "Every movie is someone's favorite movie". <br><br>Let's try to keep that in mind.<br><br><br>============<br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br>============<br><br>Really?<br><br>Then what do you have to say about Pacific Rim 1. I present to you.......the pure numbers:<br><br>Budget: $200 million. And that doesn't include the marketing cost.<br>Worldwide gross: $411,002,906<br><br>So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?<br><br>Wow! Just.....wow!
Yeah lol back then only Harold was confirmed.Can you tell me a names of cues, that was been on Klaus website?Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>
"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man.  Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want.  If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny.  When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.  That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here.  Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact.  I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here.  It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money.  Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.  But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career.  I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money.  Period.  Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie.  <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.nopeYou realize there is a very easy and free method to get the music from that site, dont you?
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Solo - A Star Wars Story
Label: Walt Disney Records
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  1. The Adventures Of Han (3:47)
    John Williams
  2. Meet Han (2:18)
    John Powell
  3. Corellia Chase (3:32)
    John Powell, Batu Sener
  4. Spaceport (4:05)
    John Powell
  5. Flying With Chewie (3:28)
    John Powell
  6. Train Heist (4:46)
    John Powell
  7. Marauders Arrive (5:13)
    John Powell
  8. Chicken In The Pot (2:07)
    John Powell
  9. Is This Seat Taken? (2:34)
    John Powell
  10. L3 & Millennium Falcon (3:15)
    John Powell
  11. Lando's Closet (2:11)
    John Powell, Anthony B. Willis
  12. Mine Mission (4:09)
    John Powell
  13. Break Out (6:13)
    John Powell
  14. The Good Guy (5:23)
    John Powell, Anthony B. Willis
  15. Reminiscence Therapy (6:11)
    John Powell
  16. Into The Maw (4:47)
    John Powell, Batu Sener
  17. Savareen Stand-Off (4:24)
    John Powell
  18. Good Thing You Were Listening (2:06)
    John Powell
  19. Testing Allegiance (4:19)
    John Powell
  20. Dice & Roll (1:54)
    John Powell, John Williams
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superultramegaa reply Replies: 1 || 2019-06-13 23:08:14
Just finished watching the movie, and while it's not much more than fine, it's sure as hell better than every other Star Wars movie that's come out since The Force Awakens (minus the ugly fucking visuals).

However the score is absolutely amazing. Powell's adaptation and development of the new Han Solo theme from Williams is flawless, the callbacks to other themes from the series are mostly appropriate (and good on him for not using the Force theme once!) and Powell's original material is fresh and exciting in a way that even Williams himself hasn't been able to pull off with the new films.

Powell might very well be up there with the greatest film composers if he continues to produce work like this from now on (which from HTTYD 3 seems very possible!)


Ian Brown McCarthy2019-06-14 01:56:27
Not to disagree for its own sake, but I think Powell has been up there with the greatest film composers since the first HTTYD score. I just wish he'd take on more projects.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2019-03-26 21:31:35
I don't know what it is but with every Star Wars score I'm kinda getting bored after a while.
But this one, it's just wooow. The musoc stays spectacular every time I listen to it. From the know SW element in Reminiscence Therapy & I to The Maw to the new theme for Han, Chewie, Qi'ra, L3 & Enfys Nest.

It doesn't happen a lot a lot that a movke that I don't like a lot, some parts, but the rest was meh, that the score is still my number 1 of 2018 and one of the best of the last 10 years!!! Hatts off Mr. Powell

Knight reply Replies: 3 || 2019-03-10 17:24:12
Solo: A Star Wars Story album cuesheet credits (from ASCAP)

MEET HAN
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS

CORELLIA CHASE
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS
BATU SENER

SPACEPORT
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS
ANTHONY WILLIS

FLYING WITH CHEWIE
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS
ANTHONY WILLIS

TRAIN HEIST
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS

MARAUDERS ARRIVE
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS
BATU SENER

CHICKEN IN THE POT
JOHN POWELL

IS THIS SEAT TAKEN?
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS

L3 & MILLENNIUM FALCON
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS

LANDO'S CLOSET
JOHN POWELL

MINE MISSION
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS

BREAK OUT
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS

THE GOOD GUY
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS
PAUL MOUNSEY
ANTHONY WILLIS

REMINISCENCE THERAPY
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS

INTO THE MAW
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS
BATU SENER

SAVAREEN STAND OFF
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS

GOOD THING YOU WERE LISTENING
JOHN POWELL

TESTING ALLEGIANCE
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS
ANTHONY WILLIS

DICE & ROLL
JOHN POWELL
JOHN WILLIAMS


Edmund Meinerts2019-03-11 08:47:48
Hm, so, a lot here that contradicts Hybrid's credits above...


Mike2019-03-11 15:06:05
Doesnít Hybrid usually offer more accurate credits though where the cuesheet may be a bit dodgy?


Knight2019-03-11 15:32:07
Yep but this was the first time where I've seen the additional lads on a score credited almost opposite of where they were on Hybrid's credits.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 1 || 2018-05-24 16:16:54
This score is awesome!! Powell did a great job at making a score that's differet than all the other SW scores, but still you know it's a SW score. He reprised Williams' theme brilliantly and I can't stop to listen to it!!!


Bookman2018-09-16 06:01:45
At 3 minutes into the film there is a great little cue for Qira and Han (when we first meet her). Is that anywhere on the soundtrack?

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 1 || 2018-09-15 02:30:23
So I finally caved in to watching this last night; honestly I was pleasantly surprised. Sure itís not the greatest film ever (more like ďjust goodĒ) but I had far more fun with the world building and performances than I had anticipated. Even the fan-service didnít seem as blatant to me (for the most part).

And yes, John Powellís score is easily one of the best this year. Each of the themes get amazing development throughout, although I feel like Chewbaccaís motif was slightly underused. And that love theme, wow!
In terms of unreleased material, almost everything is variations of what you hear on album. The only ďsubstantialĒ missing bits are two variations on the Imperial March and the Duel of the Fates reprise. Hopefully we get a good FYC this year.


mpolonest123 2018-09-15 02:35:48
And little side note: ďThe Good GuyĒ is made up of three different cues in the film. Not sure if any others are like that.

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-14 07:12:45
I would love a list of all the themes and leitmotifs from the movie.

Also I would love to see the complete cue list.

Leo reply Replies: 0 || 2018-07-23 04:49:45
Was Anthony Willis responsible for crafting that gorgeous string passage from "Lando's Closet?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2018-07-21 17:39:33
Credits added !

I didn't credit here JW for every arrangements of his theme & old SW themes that can be heard throughout the score.


superultramegaa2018-07-21 18:20:07
No Paul Mounsey credits?


Hybrid Soldier2018-07-21 18:21:04
His part is not in the OST release...


Mike (OTM)2018-07-21 18:33:40
Sweet. I've gotta say, this score surprised me in a good way. I've always loved Powell, but if you told me two years ago he'd write a Star Wars score, I'd have been hesitant about it. But Solo is really, really solid, even without the John Williams main theme. In fact, I like what Powell does with the JW theme better than the theme as JW wrote it.


mpolonest1232018-07-21 19:25:24
@MikeOTM
Youíre absolutely right. Powell did an awesome job of staying within the musical sandbox of the SW musical universe but also was able to bring something fresh and original to the overall sound, something Star Wars really needs right now.


Mike (OTM)2018-07-21 23:37:16
I'm guessing, based on the credits, that Williams worked on "Dice and Roll" directly?


Hybrid Soldier2018-07-21 23:43:55
;)

aldan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-07-21 18:33:24
Wowww so many solo Powell!

The Dude reply Replies: 2 || 2018-07-16 18:13:32
People are on here shitting on Giacchino and Powell saying Rouge One has a better score or people saying Solo has a better score and Iím over here like yep still listening to the Star Wars Original Trilogy And Prequel Trilogy scores over here. But I think they both gave Williams Justice and did good.


Iamtommie2018-07-16 19:58:41
Agree with this 100%


Anonymous2018-07-17 23:50:05
I just wish they had included the finale in both the SW story scores all the music complied together would have been great

guzz reply Replies: 0 || 2018-07-17 19:15:23
It is off topic, but I was really wondering. What do you think about composers doing fan mades on youtube? Do you have a favorite one?

jewen reply Replies: 1 || 2018-06-21 11:47:06
Sorry about my ingnorance, but what means "Additional Music" (Batu Sener, Paul Mounsey, etc)?


Mephariel2018-06-22 23:24:03
It means Sener, Mounsey, and Willis collaborated with Powell and wrote some composition for the score.

Mounsey for example, probably composed some of the percussion elements.

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2018-06-20 10:26:02
Hi guys. Dose anybody know why solo faild in box office ?


Edmund Meinerts2018-06-20 13:46:37
There wasn't really any hype for the movie, it didn't seem like people were all that interested in a Han Solo origin story. Plus it's only been half a year since Last Jedi came out and broke the internet. Unlike Marvel, Star Wars doesn't seem immune to franchise fatigue.

A shame. Hope nobody is stupid enough to think Powell was to blame.


jjstarA1132018-06-21 07:13:47
@Edmund Meinerts:

"Hope nobody is stupid enough to think Powell was to blame." This. Following that same logic, Disney should never have let Williams back after the prequel trilogy.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 12 || 2018-06-18 12:02:55
I know Clemmensen is kind of persona non grata around here (not without good reason), but he put up his review of Solo a few days ago and it's one of the best he's ever written, a fantastic in-depth analysis (and appropriately positive). Worth spending an hour or two reading and listening to help unpack this score's many complexities.


superultramegaa2018-06-18 18:57:48
What site are his reviews on again? Not really sure where to look.


Hybrid Soldier2018-06-18 19:31:41
How dare you mention his name ??

I should erase that post... :P


Anonymous2018-06-18 20:05:14
Who is he and why is he a persona non grata? Ű_O


Ds2018-06-18 20:14:14
If you want to understand why he's persona non grata, just go and check out his review of Hans Zimmer's masterpiece At World's End, it sums up pretty nicely the guy's mental issues :p

But his other reviews are mostly OK and that Solo one is indeed very good, worth a read.


NB2018-06-18 20:22:18
'At World's End' is possibly one of his greatest 'missteps' for sure, but he is a mostly reasonable guy when reviewing, and simply has a taste that doesn't accomodate a lot of the more modern sounding scores, which I think is ok, since we all have our preferences. His 'Solo' review is a must read for any fan of the score though. :D


Mpolonest123 2018-06-18 20:32:19
Heís definitely not a bad reviewer, and his writing style is pretty sharp. The obvious problem is that he has a strong bias against Zimmer. Most of his recent Zimmer reviews are less spent talking about themes and more so the ďissuesĒ with his current style.


Powellfan2018-06-19 06:38:52
The Solo review does look quite good.

Clemmensen comes across pretty badly in many of his reviews. Even some of the positive ones. He has some very strong preconceptions about certain things that sometimes lead him to say some reasonably aggravating stuff.

Interestingly, he stays almost reasonable in his A World's End review. I wouldn't point to that one as his most typical negative review.


superultramegaa2018-06-19 19:17:24
Seriously guys, what site is he on? I want to see this review, but I don't know where it is.


Powellfan2018-06-20 00:12:37
Should be easy to find with google...


superultramegaa2018-06-20 00:41:04
Tried that, couldn't find an author named Clemmensen who reviewed it. (I don't know where to look I haven't seen this guy's reviews before).


superultramegaa2018-06-20 00:44:18
Sorry, just found it.


Olive2018-06-20 03:05:43
Search for "filmtracks".

holygreg reply Replies: 4 || 2018-06-03 11:39:59
For those who have seen the movie, is the CD rather complete compared with the whole score featured in the film ?


Iamtommie2018-06-03 12:23:06
No


Edmund Meinerts2018-06-04 09:18:18
Nope, I'd say there's at least 30-40 minutes missing, including some quite important cues and thematic references.


DT-20172018-06-10 09:09:20
As is always the case with a Star Wars score: the CD presents the highlights of the score.

Maybe an FYC at awards season has more material, bug for now the album is enough, I think. Just don't expect a sessions leak any time soon: ig hasn't happened for any score in the Star Wars franchise.


Scorefan2018-06-16 22:22:50
John Powell answered in Facebook there is still 45 minutes of music outside from the CD.

berk800 reply Replies: 1 || 2018-06-16 10:15:50
If there is one who can replace John Williams on Star Wars than is it John Powell!!

Great Job!!


ThePhantasm 2018-06-16 16:18:48
Yep, he knows how to do BIG and small moments. He's so versatile. I'm praying rian johnson uses him for his new trilogy

Snoke reply Replies: 0 || 2018-06-06 01:56:00
Oh my God John you did amazing with this score. I loved the Rouge One score but you did amazing with this score. Loved the Enfys Nest theme and how you arranged the Williams score in perfect places is incredible. I want that Imperial March and Dudl if Fates part though.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 5 || 2018-05-31 17:05:19
"Into the Maw" has to be the most uncompromisingly brutal, intense, violent action cue Powell has written yet, even more than X3. That snarling brass! There are parts of that cue where I swear I'm listening to The Matrix. What an insane piece of music. :O


MrZimmerFan2018-05-31 18:56:30
I don't think could top Phoenix Rises... sorry

Altough, great track ;D


mpolonest123 2018-05-31 19:43:42
Very Elliot Goldenthal styled in the brass section....


ThePhantasm2018-06-01 04:50:21
I think the only that might come close to Phoenix Rises is Marauders Arrive. It's pure Powell


MrZimmerFan2018-06-01 20:48:26
Well, Phoenix Rises mixes the most epic/emotional theme from X-Men series with the X-Men's theme from Powell.

And Marauders Arrive is more like mix Avatar (the choral aspect) with the heroic Han Theme (and i think the gang's theme).

And i still prefer Phoenix Rises


ThePhantasm2018-06-02 00:37:39
I prefer Phoenix too, specially how it gets bigger and bigger and even more intense as it builds, and if I'm honest i think Dark Phoenix Tragedy is better than Rises.. but you can't deny there's something special about Marauders Arrive. I think this score could of been even better if john williams didn't compose a theme.... if Powell would of been allowed to do his thing it would of been something even more special.

ThePhantasm reply Replies: 10 || 2018-05-29 00:58:00
As with every John Powell score there's always music missing... why weren't the Imperial march and darth mauls duel of fates theme in the soundtrack. I love the score way better than Rogue one but that really pissed me off. At least with Giacchino we get everything we hear in the movie. Same thing with Hans there's always music missing or it sounds different from what we heard in the film.


Anonymous2018-05-29 01:22:21
another asshole with spoilers

geez not everyone has seen the movie so be considerate please


META2018-05-29 01:58:48
giacchino is a lazy composer of Williams work compared to the hard work Powell did on this one...

and to think, Giacchino's love for Williams is what got him started!

lol...

I remember when he started out with that Playstation Jurassic Park 2 video game....


superultramegaa2018-05-29 03:33:51
Yeah, remember when Giacchino had scores like Up and The Incredibles that had a distinct jazz style with some classical sprinkled through?

I remember watching Rogue One and hearing the end credits music and distinctly thinking to myself... "Were these themes in the movie?" Plus the music for the Darth Vader Rebel massacre scene... ugh. One of the most laughable uses of music I have ever heard in a major film in a long time! So cheesy and over-dramatic. What, is Darth Vader a Nazghul now too? Along with that pale orc over there in the corner?

Just remember this, because this is a problem I see with modern film music reviewers. Just because the underscore and overall composition is technically complex does not mean it's a good score. Look at the eras where melodic music was dominant. Are we really going to act like every 1960s/70s/80s orchestral score (I know there were electronic non-melodic ones) was high art? No, there were generic, boring, and forgettable composers with no style before the Hans Zimmer era. IMO, Giacchino's Williams imitation scores would have easily fallen into that category, but people treat his music better than it actually is today, simply because it's more melodic.

I would rather Jeremy Soule or Mark Griskey, composers who have never touched a Hollywood movie, score a Star Wars film than ever let Giacchino near the franchise again. Just keep him away from Williams properties. He's much better when he doesn't have to imitate other composers.


ThePhantasm2018-05-29 04:10:17
Damn I'm so sorry for spoiling that for you, i really am. Completely went over my head bro :(


ThePhantasm2018-05-29 04:13:46
Wow so i'm not the only one that thinks Giachinno is super over rated? i thought i was gonna get chewed out lol i like him he has so many movies coming out a year it's ridiculous. Doctor strange was garbage, so was his spider man homecoming music, while i like war for the planet of the apes he basically ripped off John williams Kylo ren theme.


Medigo2018-05-29 10:52:05
Giacchino is fine. He just spreads himself too thin (or gets brought in too late, like with Rogue One)

Also ripping off Kylo Ren's theme? What?


Macejko2018-05-29 15:14:25
The reason I don't like Giacchino is his pissing on Doyle's brilliant score for Rise of the Planet of the Apes. His music for the second and the third movie were at times utterly abysmal. Plus his constant childish use of puns in his tracklists makes me wanna punch him in the face every time a new score of his is announced.


ThePhantasm 2018-05-29 17:09:54
@Medigo yeah he ripped off the kylo ren theme. go on youtube and look up exodus wounds from War for the planet of the apes, then listen to kylo ren theme. Literally note for note


Iamtommie2018-05-29 19:16:14
If we're talking about ripping music. Listen to Light The Hoop On Fire from Madagascar 3. Than to the main title of Night At The Museum. The opening is exactly the same. And Silvestri was first


Medigo2018-05-30 17:29:07
sounds more like a coincidence to me

Its not like Kylo Rens theme is an original idea

Berkian Warrior reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-29 22:59:46
AM I WRONG IN SAYING LANDO'S CLOSET HAS THE BEST LOVE THEME FROM POWELL YET! Lol Romantic Flight from httyd was good too but this is even more dramatic and I love it. I love Williams theme like crazy but I feel John would have been better off doing it by himself.

Olive reply Replies: 17 || 2018-05-26 15:07:38
Between this one and Rogue One, I'll take the last one.

Unfortunately the two scores run away from the typical sound of the franchise and at various times seem just a pastiche copy.

It's a good score, but it does not feel so natural. Even Han's theme is almost unrecognizable, forgettable and incoherent with the character. It does not have the same identity as the themes of Luke, Leia, Rey, Anakin, Jyn, Yoda or Dameron.


superultramegaa2018-05-26 15:22:25
I only watched the movie once, but the fact that I didn't take away any memorable music from Rogue One is a huge problem for a Star Wars film. I haven't listened to this score yet, but I have more hopes for this than Rogue One.


MrZimmerFan2018-05-26 15:58:35
Do you remember any music outside the space chase?

Because i don't.


superultramegaa2018-05-26 16:20:05
I just said I haven't watched the movie or listened to the full score yet.


MrZimmerFan2018-05-26 16:34:30
But Rogue One or Solo?

Because i remember more the music in RO after watching the movie than in Solo (well, maybe is because that theme for the character is so unispired and only i remember certain moments of the music)


Berkian Warrior2018-05-26 16:55:13
They kept the volume of the music so low in the movie, while rouge ones was jacked up and used as a center piece rather than side music like they did for John. Johnson piece is far better, it they gave it a back seat


Olive2018-05-27 14:01:02
Rogue One has several caricature moments that make me want to laugh at Giacchino's naivety, but there is no denying that the material is a million of times more memorable than what we heard in Solo. RO has themes. A recognizable theme for Jyn, a silly theme for the villains, a beautiful one for the surrender of the rebels in the end, a silly march for Vader, but manages to point out the moments of the score. Not here. I'm trying to discern the theme for Han and the Chewie theme.

This made me very disappointed because I was very happy for Powell's appointment. The score is not bad, far from it. The problem is that I expected so much more. HTTYD will be my "medicine". :P


Hybrid Soldier2018-05-27 14:03:54
Don't forget in your calculation of "measuring dicks" between Giacchino & Powell, that Giacchino had a good film to score.


Powell did not...


He did a wonderful job despite what he was given to score... lol


MrZimmerFan2018-05-27 14:09:08
@Olive: Caricature villians, really?

Krennic has a theme similar to that of the Empire, but being an arrogant character, his theme is more exaggerated, for the character

You make laugh with the march of Vader (is HIS theme, for god's sake)

And yeah, I prefer Rogue One over Solo, not only the movie.


Olive2018-05-27 17:48:31
Meh, I'm a "good" guy.

I prefer RO to Solo.

I did not say that the themes are from Giacchino or Williams or Powell I talk about themes of the score (regardless of who the authors are).

I'm also not "measuring dicks", Powell always has more points with me than Giacchino anyway.

I honestly did not like the theme written by WILLIAMS for Han and I can not equate it with the others in the franchise. It is disappointing.

And John's score, unfortunately, is a little paler than Rogue One's (since I can not mention the name Giacchino, as I'll be comparing the two). As much as I agree that the quality of the film is a factor to be considered, I do not believe the music is bad. It is not. I liked the music. Mainly the sequences of action. But it is very little for SW and for Powell "writing a SW score". I expected more. I'm disappointed and I hope HTTYD 3 is as good as its predecessors.


Max Potcats2018-05-28 11:16:41
Giacchino had only 3 weeks to score Rogue One and he did a better job than Powell in 5 months, very good themes (Jyn, Imperial Suite ..), the global new sound that he brings to SW (the very beginning of "He's Here For Us "," Jedha Arrival "..) but the main difference is that Rogue One really lets the music express itself (" Wobani Imperial Labor Camp "," When Has Become Now "," Hope "," Your Father would be proud "..). I can not remember any sequence or scene in Solo where the music really drive the picture or with the picture.
But of course Solo is just another "gangster movie", but in the SW universe, so there is nothing really new here. Powell did what he can and he did a fine job, but the real problem comes from the story and no music can fix that.


Oscarilbo2018-05-28 16:00:08
I loved the movie. it was what I expected for a the kind of character Han is. And love how different this score was to the old school style... with this one Star Wars is beginning to open up as we explore new planets and characters. It has to, just as Lucas did it with the Clone Wars series.

I sincerely cannot understand how could anyone expect something not even the character of Han Solo was never meant to be. He never navigate on profound and philosophical waters UNTIL he met Luke and ObiWan. Just remember what he thought about the force on EpIV. And the way the film is made reflects exactly that. It remind me of the kind of adventures Star Wars was originally inspired by.

On top of that he wasnít suppose to be the exact same character we see on ANH, he hasnít reach that level of pessimism yet. It is until he met Luke and ObiWan when he stumbled with truly important and dramatic issues, so there is not really a wide range of development that can be done with Han Solo. Not every Star Wars movie need to be as profound as the episodes. It's a fun adventure and I couldn't expect more from it and had a blast ! Even the main theme is called to inform all this.

IT IS A UNIVERSE we are really starting to explore through these characters, so some of the films will be much more light than others. I loved it and was exactly what I was expecting and looking for in a movie about a character that had just a very adventurous life until he knew better. It was fresh air.&#65279;




Ds2018-05-28 20:05:14
This Star Wars outing is a very nice slightly old-fashioned adventures movie, entertaining, light and very funny (I mean really funny, not MCU-funny). The main performance is absolutely amazing and gives a lot of heart to the movie. It flows well together and feels like a consistent movie - congrats to Ron Howard for managing that given the circumstances.

The set pieces and visuals are stunning, and even if there are a lot of CGIs, it's grounded enough not to feel assaulted by a CGI overdose that has become the norm in Hollywood movies (thanks to the MCU, again). I wouldn't say it beats the 2nd half of Rogue One (I mean the extended action scene on the island), but as a movie/story it's much better told and much less patchy.

And then the score, one of the best entries in the serie for sure.


MrZimmerFan2018-05-28 20:43:52
But dosen't have the emotional impact from that movie.

I will said this, The Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith (altough, TPM have certain issues) are much better movies and SW than Solo.

But that's is my opinion.


Ds2018-05-28 21:30:07
Well, of course, because Revenge of the Sith is simply the best SW movie :-)


mpolonest123 2018-05-28 22:11:36
@MrZimmerFan

Finally something we agree on lol

For all the hate the prequels get, ROTS is genuinely a great movie. Itís dark, emotional, and ties itself into the original trilogy without resorting to ďfan serviceĒ. Everything makes sense in context. And while Iím not a big fan of Phantom Menace or Clones, I still have to give George Lucas credit for actually having imagination and expanding the SW universe with new worlds and characters. If the writing was better they could all have become classics.

Unlike this new trilogy, which relies on fan service and basically remaking ideas from the old films. They feel less like the vision of one man and more so a corporate move. Donít get me wrong, they arenít bad films, but they could be so much better.


MrZimmerFan2018-05-29 00:21:25
@mpolonest: I don't think The Last Jedi relies in old ideas, altough i'm not a big fan of the prequels (Attack of the Clones is simple bad), i liked The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, not as much like A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back (because, this one is my ultimate favorite SW movie), and i liked a lot Rogue One.


mpolonest123 2018-05-29 00:53:02
@MrZimmerFan

What makes Rogue One work so well is that it essentially is doing something completely separated from the characters we are used to from SW. Itís a pretty mature film compared to the other ones.

Iíll even give Last Jedi a bit of credit, the filmmakers are obviously trying to push Star Wars in a new direction with more depth. There are just certain elements that donít completely work for me though.

Being someone that grew up with Star Wars (Iím only 24) and the prequels, I have kind of become burned out with the series. I really would like to see them tackle new stories and characters while keeping things fresh.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 8 || 2018-05-28 12:27:31
For those who need/want a bit of help figuring out the themes in this one, a quick guide of the best place to hear them.

- Han's Hero theme (by Williams) - "The Adventures of Han", 0:15; first big Powell adaptation at 0:27 of "Corellia Chase"

- Han's Searching/B theme (by Williams) - "The Adventures of Han", 0:37; a good place to hear Powell's "version" is 0:48 of "Meet Han". Powell uses the rhythm of this theme ALL OVER the score.

- Han and Chewbacca friendship theme - 2:10 to the end of "Flying with Chewie"

- Theme for Han's gang - 1:45 of "Train Heist". This is a great example of Powell writing something that is clearly influenced by Williams but still in his own voice.

- Enfys Nest/Marauder's theme - 0:24 of "Marauders Arrive". This is probably the most immediately memorable of Powell's themes because the unique sound of the Bulgarian choir and its aggressive nature really make it stand out.

- L3 theme - introduced at the start of "L3 & Millenium Falcon" but gets its best workout in "Mine Mission" (0:25) which is Powell doing a classic Indiana Jones-style march-structured Williams action cue, and doing it brilliantly.

- Han/Qi'ra love theme - "Lando's Closet" (0:18). Sadly this theme doesn't get much time to play in such an action-packed score but it's really beautiful and has an old-fashioned/Golden Age sweeping feel that's perfect for Star Wars.


mpolonest123 2018-05-28 14:07:23
Thanks for the breakdown!

I have to admit, some of the themes seem to blend more into the soundscape (outside of Hans theme/Marauder theme/Love theme).

This is definitely one of those scores where you need a few listens to let them really sink in. The same thing happened to me with Pan, where I was able to pick out the two main ideas immediately but needed some time for the smaller motifs.


mpolonest123 2018-05-28 14:09:07
Also having no interest in seeing the film... are there any substantial missing cues/John Williams themes not on the album?


MrZimmerFan2018-05-28 14:15:34
One reprise of the Darth Vader and... other theme (is not from the character, more from the movie he appears, and a famous one from Williams... in the prequels)


mpolonest123 2018-05-28 14:53:43
Ahh I think I read about that cameo, glad they kept THAT theme. Thanks!


Anonymous2018-05-28 17:31:49
wow spoiler alert jackass


JBSO992018-05-28 17:51:54
I fact there are two reprises of The Imperial March, one which plays at the beginning with Han in the Imperial Army, but there is also another one that happens in-universe which is used in an army recruitment commercial.

And some quieter cues with the Love Theme.


mpolonest123 2018-05-28 18:18:37
Itís cool that they are incorporating the Imperial material from A New Hope alongside the march, much like they did in Rogue One. Hopefully we get a deluxe edition or FYC at some point, assuming the film does well.


Iamtommie2018-05-28 19:15:20
There is also a smaal 1 second tune from A New Hope with cubes of Han

Jean-Luc reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-28 17:53:45
I saw that movie from last night, it's an okay movie I gave 6/10 stars. My opinion is, I like the music by John Powell in the movie. Also, I only like Corellia Chase and Reminiscence Therapy too.

aldan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-28 17:40:30
is full credit available yet?

Now we have heard the ost, now i cant wait to find out which tracks Powell did SOLO and which tracks he shared with his gang..

But for right now, this is my best assumption that "Flying WIth Chewie" is Paul Mounsey's (similar style with Neverland AHoy!), Batu Sener was given the Thomas Newman-sounding track, while i can hear a trace of Willis in Corellia Chase. The Good Guy is something Powell wouldnt even bother to write (beacuse this is a track full of re arrangement of his themes, so he must be kind to give to his son). Break out has a trace of "Train Station" track from Ferdinand, so that has to be a collaborative piece too


Though, i could be wrong

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 4 || 2018-05-28 09:48:05
It blows my fucking mind that anyone thinks Rogue One is even within a million miles of this. Best Star Wars score since Return of the Jedi.


MrZimmerFan2018-05-28 11:41:00
Really?

The Last Jedi and The Force Awakens are muuuch better, even Rogue One.

Fine score... nothing else


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-28 12:11:31
Solo is clearly better than The Last Jedi, which felt like a Star Wars greatest hits score to a degree (Force theme every 30 seconds...). TFA and Solo are close to each other, TFA has better themes and storytelling, but the action music in Solo is just so mindblowing and energetic and fresh-feeling to me. It has a drive and cohesion to it that I don't hear in the action of TFA and TLJ (which mostly falls into the modern Williams trap of being super-complicated but aimless). And the way Powell was able to stay true to his own voice while adding just enough Williams flourishes and spice on top is a remarkable achievement, far beyond the pastiche attempt by Giacchino for Rogue One (I don't dislike that score, and I cut him some slack for the time constraints, but it has so many awkward moments and Giacchino's voice really seems to battle with the Williams influence rather than gracefully working with it the way Powell does). The balancing act that Powell manages between his own music and that of Williams is nothing short of masterful.

The themes in Solo aren't the sort that immediately grab you by the throat, so I'd recommend you give it a couple listens before you make your decision. They really grow on you, and you realize that in the middle of all that frantic action music Powell is actually constantly stating and developing both the Williams theme and his own. And then there are all the brilliant little Star Wars easter eggs like the original Imperial theme at 3:34 of Train Heist, or the fanfare from the beginning of the main title worked into "Break Out" at 1:17. And don't even get me started on "Reminiscence Therapy"!


MrZimmerFan2018-05-28 13:06:39
The only theme i recall is the Enfys Nest

But man, the theme by Williams is so unispired.


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-28 13:29:55
I think it sounds a bit like an improved version of the Poe theme. I like it, although I admit it's no classic. Anyways, it's what Powell does with the theme (namely: a lot) that matters.

Macejko reply Replies: 2 || 2018-05-27 13:13:34
Edmund is probably dead from bliss, because this is a mighty fine score. I gave it only one listen so far, but I haven't enjoyed Powell this much in years.


Meta2018-05-27 13:28:42
Im actually liking Powell's Solo theme better than Williams' theme...


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-27 22:54:50
Can confirm: am dead.

Scorefan reply Replies: 2 || 2018-05-23 20:41:15
What would have happened if Ron Howard would have been the first choice to direct Solo? He would have chosen James Horner (if he wasn't dead) or try to convince Hans Zimmer to do the music. The only collaboration between Howard and maestro Williams was in the movie Far And Away.


Hybrid Soldier2018-05-23 22:01:05
Hans for Star Wars ?


Never.


Ron probably asked him first and Hans probably was like "JOHN POWELL !!"


Geoffrey2018-05-27 01:50:53
Why never ?
He dislikes the saga or not interested ? I'm curious.

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-26 21:47:21
Rogue One was last minute change on Giacchino. I would like to hear Alexandre Desplat score to make a correct analysis from both scores. Besides that and with the little time, Giacchino's score is good, in the same style from maestro Williams.
Solo score is more different. Maestro Williams wrote the main theme and more cues, but what make the score different is Powell. He adapts Solo theme, and some of themes the original trilogy, but he puts him own stamp. Definitely is a Star Wars Score but with Powell stamp. Something Giacchino, maybe for the time, did not develop.
The film, well, i will watch on DVD.

META reply Replies: 13 || 2018-05-25 02:43:30
I think Powell found his niche with this score...
Because he's WAY better at apeing Williams than Giacchino could ever be, and with way more energy....

And here Giacchino prides his work on Williams from his origins in video game music...

This blows Giacchino out of the ocean and into the moon. This surprises me, as I expected Giacchino to have such huge hard-on for Williams.


mpolonest123 2018-05-25 03:01:22
To be fair, Giacchino didnít have much time to work on Rogue One, which explains why certain portions (coughactionmusiccough) fell flat. Itís not a bad score at all, but yeah, John Powell is above and beyond a better composer. His recordings have life and energy, and while most of it still sounds like Powell, he is able to switch into Williams mode so easily.

In defense of Giacchino though, just go listen to Jupiter Ascending if you want a score on the same level as this. The action music is phenomenal, there are at least a dozen solid themes, and the recording doesnít seem as flat as some of his other scores.


MrZimmerFan2018-05-25 10:57:40
The action music is flat in Rogue One?, agree if the score isn't as good as Jupiter Ascending, for example, but the action music is BETTER than Spider-Man or Jurassic World.

IMHO


Ds2018-05-25 11:00:14
"Pan" was also a replacement score, and look at the marvelous Powell score we got... However I don't know how long he had to score it. Certainly a bit more time than what Giacchino got for Rogue One.


MrZimmerFan2018-05-25 11:06:39
@Ds: i'm not a big fan for Pan, i liked the score, but Powell have MUUUCH better action/fantasy scores.


mpolonest123 2018-05-25 20:00:43
@mrzimmerfan
Yeah, I definitely disagree. When I was watching Rogue One in theaters I kept getting taken out of the film because of the music, which isnít something that I normally pay attention to when I watch movies.

And I know it gets criticized a lot, but I honestly love Jurassic World. The flat recording sound aside, I think itís an intelligent score that does something new the franchise material while still paying tribute. Even Homecoming has grown on me, particularly Vultureís theme.


mpolonest123 2018-05-25 20:02:43
As for Pan, I initially wasnít impressed at all with the music. It took about a year for it to sink in and let me fall in love with the themes.


Kingfannypack is the MILFcommander2018-05-25 20:24:15
mpolonest123 Iím glad Iím not the only one who enjoys Jurassic World. It think it pays great tribute to John Williamsí groundbreaking work for the JP franchise, but it also had many exciting and creative motifs that made the score stand out in my mind.


MrZimmerFan2018-05-25 21:36:33
'Yeah, I definitely disagree. When I was watching Rogue One in theaters I kept getting taken out of the film because of the music, which isnít something that I normally pay attention to when I watch movies. '

The action music in that movie reinforces the tension and epicness of the movie (for example, The Master Switch gives gravitas to the scene and have a nice rendition for the theme of Chirrut's character)

'And I know it gets criticized a lot, but I honestly love Jurassic World. The flat recording sound aside, I think itís an intelligent score that does something new the franchise material while still paying tribute. Even Homecoming has grown on me, particularly Vultureís theme.'

Jurassic World, musically speaking, copies the tonal sound from the first Jurassic and dosen't give a memorable theme for the new park (the theme is more a other version from the Williams' theme), dosen't feel fresh to the franchise or inteligent, reverse, copies the tonal aspects from the original music from John Williams. Vulture's theme is a reshash from the Fantastic Four theme from Marco Beltrami and Philip Glass


Iamtommie2018-05-25 21:46:42
Vulture's theme is The Avengers theme but in lower tones


MrZimmerFan2018-05-25 22:02:45
Really?, because sounds more like Beltrami than Silvestri


mpolonest123 2018-05-25 22:09:48
@mrzimmerfan

Still have to disagree, I love the new ďPark ThemeĒ and the way it sort of takes over from the classic theme. Then you have the Indominus theme, Owenís theme, the villain theme, the family theme, the source music, etc.
Iíll take that any day over Lost World and JP3. Is it as good as the original score? Hell no, but not many scores are.

And I do see the similarities between the vulture theme and those other ones listed. Itís definitely not original, but it is effective.


MrZimmerFan2018-05-26 16:03:40
Still have to disagree, I love the new ďPark ThemeĒ and the way it sort of takes over from the classic theme. Then you have the Indominus theme, Owenís theme, the villain theme, the family theme, the source music, etc.
Iíll take that any day over Lost World and JP3. Is it as good as the original score? Hell no, but not many scores are.'

The Lost World was a coherent evolution in the franchise, Williams maintains the original theme, but creates a darker and more percussive score (listen the expanded version by La La Land), because the movie isn't like Jurassic Park. And i getting appreciate more the Don Davis score for JPIII, better orchestrated than Jurassic World, both scores are FAR better than Jurassic World (one for a coherent and agressive tone and more memorable, and the other because is better orchestrated)

'And I do see the similarities between the vulture theme and those other ones listed. Itís definitely not original, but it is effective.'

I don't see any similaraties with the Avengers theme, effective?, yeah, but not memorable and i'll pick up any day than any theme in Jurassic World


mpolonest123 2018-05-26 16:33:38
We are just gonna have to agree to disagree. ;-)

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