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Haha!  Wear the mask. how fitting.yap. and all of the alternates :PI want that "Final Confrontation" cue so much!Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.
I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmerís best animated score imo but itís still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, ďLoveĒ is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.
Who is Hans Zimmerman?i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.
So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>Weíve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!
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The Hurricane Heist
Label: Filmtrax (Digital Download Only)
Length: 42'05
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  1. Hurricane Heist (4:13)
  2. Brothers (4:11)
  3. The Compound (4:07)
  4. In On It (2:10)
  5. Back In Utah (1:40)
  6. Tower Down (4:53)
  7. Follow Me (2:29)
  8. Twist Of Fate (2:22)
  9. The Garage (1:39)
  10. Take The Fight To Them (2:35)
  11. The Rutledge Boys Go To Work (3:11)
  12. The Chase (1:50)
  13. Final Showdown (3:45)
  14. The Storm (3:01)
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Jean-Luc reply Replies: 3 || 2018-05-28 17:45:22
Everyone I have a question for y'all! Do you think Lorne Balfe is a good composer for disaster movies or fits with action movies or other genre.


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-28 18:49:25
I actually think Balfe is better at lighter movies, animations and dramas than he is at action. He's also pretty good with futuristic synthy stuff. Wish he would use a real orchestra more often though.


Jean-Luc 2018-05-28 22:49:20
True!


Mike2018-05-28 23:08:58
He recorded the score in Vienna . So itís a real orchestra . Sounds real to me but what do I know !!

FaresTdkr reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-13 14:31:23
Did you hear something from Divergent Triology by junkie XL and joseph trapense? I mean the Storm Track...

Guzz reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-12 14:41:23
Lorne Balfe = Benicio del Toro?

superultramegaa reply Replies: 14 || 2018-03-11 01:51:20
Maybe Lorne should choose more projects like Ghost in the Shell. Something that allows him to incorporate more style and electronics, because these generic action movies are giving him nothing to work with. He seems to me like he would have been a great composer in the 80s. With synth mixed with a little bit of orchestral elements to give a more other worldly/ethereal feeling.

He should do more sci-fi video games and movies. That would probably allow him to incorporate that style more, and allow him to become more unique, and get away from Zimmer's shadow. Rather than copy RCP action music.


Peter2018-03-11 02:08:58
Iím totally confused with as a lover of the Media Ventures sound why does Balfe seems to get harsh criticism. It really seems there are a hand full of haters that seem to constantly wish to moan and bitch about him. Get over it idiots !!


Edmund Meinerts2018-03-11 12:03:22
Are we not allowed to be critical? Because if that's the case discussions are going to get very boring, very fast.


superultramegaa2018-03-11 13:35:42
My criticism wasn't harsh! I said I wanted him to get more projects that would allow his unique talents to shine through. I like Ghost in the Shell, and I think Lorne has a lot of potential with that type of score. That is all I'm saying! How in any way is this bitch and moaning? Because I'm not on my hands and knees saying, "Oh Balfe, you bless us with your godly talent! May we please wash your feet Mr. Balfe? You are a god to your people!"


Olive2018-03-11 14:35:54
The same for Holkenborg. Tomb Raider was a shameful score.


rockhound2018-03-11 14:56:49
I would like to hear the orchestral Lorne Balfe more often. IRONCLAD is his best so far. An orchestral/Synth Mix is nothing original anymore.


mpolonest123 2018-03-11 15:02:09
@rockhound
Have you not heard Beyond Two Souls or Blackwood? Lorne is probably one of the best when it comes to orchestral/synth mixes. The issue is when he works with directors with zero musical knowledge. Same with Junkie XL.


rockhound2018-03-11 15:15:52
I have both scores and i like them alot, but i dont want to hear just synth/orchestral scores. Ironclad was something unique for Lorne. I really wish he would compose more often in that style.


Olive2018-03-11 15:38:34
I dare say Holkenborg's mistake was much more glaring than Balfe's. Hurricane is a film derived from the rapturous series of Fast and Furious. There is no way to stand out. XL, on the other hand, had "cool" material, the "convenience" of working with a studio that is investing a lot of work on this Tomb Raider reboot and it delivers one of the worst works of his career. It's at least revolting. XD


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-11 16:16:12
Have you actually seen The Hurricane Heist ?

I have, 2 weeks ago, it's a pretty lame movie.


Lorne's score just does what's asked. I find the Brothers theme cool though... :)


mpolonest123 2018-03-11 16:27:43
@olive
The only reason I disagree is that the film (Tomb Raider) hasnít been released yet. The trailers look atrocious, and it definitely seems like the film isnít going to be any better, much like what happened with Assasins Creed. Hopefully itís good of course, but if it isnít at least we will get an idea of why the score sounds the way it does.

@rockhound
Iíll take a listen to Ironclad, you got me interested. And I do agree, I donít want to see any composer pigeonholed in one style. Itís just that Lorne is so great at working with that particular sound.


Olive2018-03-11 16:40:11
I know. But I'm referring to the material. As bad as the movie was, there was no way to do what he did. He did not even bother to create an exotic movie atmosphere that went beyond ethnic percussion. We have had previous films of the character and nothing has reached a point as low as what XL did. Another thing, not every bad movie has an obligation to have bad music. There are several examples out there. When this happens the composer clings more to the atmosphere of the film than the story itself. Pirate films, medieval wars, stereotyped archeologists and even bad fairy tales offer the composer the opportunity to work with a genre that opens many doors for creativity.


mpolonest123 2018-03-11 20:10:15
@olive
Exactly, some bad films have amazing scores (Chappie, Jupiter Ascending). So why do some bad films have awful score, like Tomb Raider or Hurricane Heist, when the composer has proven they can write excellent material for crap?

Trust me, itís not 100% the composers fault. Moreso what the director/producers demand for their films.


mpolonest123 2018-03-11 20:15:14
And can we please STOP acting like we arenít allowed to criticize! Iím one of the biggest Zimmer fanboys and even I will admit if I donít like something he did. Likewise if someone enjoys something universally hated, why canít they like it?

Example: Most people would disagree with me but I think The Social Network is a genius score. And I wouldnít argue if someone said they fucking hate it. Itís all personal preference.


MrZimmerFan2018-03-11 20:28:08
The only score i care from Reznor/Ross was Patriots Day, if it is that good

Ian reply Replies: 7 || 2018-03-11 02:16:36
I'm honestly not sure why this score is getting criticized so harshly. For context, I'm well aware Lorne recycles content (progressions, certain rhythms, etc) a ton - probably more than any RCP composer right now - but there's well enough original content to this for me to be genuinely impressed. I've listened to three full cues so far (the first, second, and last), and none of them have felt like obvious copies of existing work.


Andrew F2018-03-11 03:33:33
I agree - it seems some just want to bitch.They should shut up


Edmund Meinerts2018-03-11 12:10:18
Actually what we want is to have reasoned discussion and debate about music in which we are allowed to speak our minds and use arguments to back up our opinions. And since that's clearly not what you want, Andrew (or is it Andy? Andreas?), why don't you go start lorne-balfe.com instead where you can make all the no-criticisms-allowed rules you want, and see how well that goes.


Olive2018-03-11 16:52:28
Well, Tomb Raider, Wrinkle in The Time and ... Hurricane Heist are being criticized. The only one of the three that (MAYBE) may grow over time is "Wrinkle".


Olive2018-03-11 16:56:36
However I agree with @Ian that, in this case, we should be aware that the production of the film must have at least 65 percent of the responsability by the end result.


MrZimmerFan2018-03-11 17:58:16
I find Wrinkle a good score, but not too memorable and interesting. However, is true the worst of the three is Hurricane. And Tomb Raider, i liked it.


Olive2018-03-11 19:04:23
I find "Hurricane" less offensive than "Raider". My heart sank into a deep darkness with the first 4 tracks of "TR". But I'm okay with it now. ;)


MrZimmerFan2018-03-11 19:11:46
The problem isn't is offensive or not... ;D

Hurricane have is 'moments' (but I found MORE engaging Geostorm as for this type of score), but less interesting and very choppy and lazy. Tomb Raider (i am big fan of percussion, and maybe is for that) i founded more engaging, by myself. But that is maybe just me ;)

I am a guy who listen JFK by Williams and when i finish it, i put Unstoppable by HGW :p

FaresTdkr reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-11 18:32:15
Come on people it just a movie and music it's not something that will make your life better (in the long term's) if you like it buy it if not keep it neither balfe nor production company need your love if the soundtrack did the job in movie balfe will tell you just "go F*** your S***, I get paid what you get?"...finally"who's am I to talk in the name of lorne":)

FaresTdkr reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-11 11:55:00
Well am I hearing something from suicide squad by Steven price (track 1)..so far so good...

Mephariel reply Replies: 3 || 2018-03-10 07:41:57
Awful score. Balfe basically stitched together a bunch of RCP and Zimmer scores together and called it a day. I can even hear The Joker theme and Batman's two note theme...


MrZimmerFan2018-03-10 12:50:15
I put Geostorm instead


Anonymous2018-03-11 00:53:11
Of cause you do .Always a negative Lorne comment!


Olive2018-03-11 00:57:36
Add your own opinion here and care less about the criticism of others.

Olive reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-11 00:54:09
This score is a middle ground between "Tomb Raider" and "Wrinkle in the Time". It is not bad or annoying as the first, but it is even less original than the second. It's not bad or good. It is uninspiring wallpaper. I hope better things with Uprising!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-09 23:27:29
... which is now solved...

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