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I agree that Elfman's theme fits into Nolan's films as long as they are adapted to them. However, I think the way things have gone was not bad. TDK trilogy was marked as a project fruit of Nolan's unique vision. Although the themes do not respect the orchestral tradition are more memorable than those composed for more than half of the films of heroes of the last 25 years.Zimmer's entry into the genre can be interpreted as a breath of fresh air in a saturated marketplace at the time. But I agree that the lack of originality these days falls on Zimmer and his company and that the goal of it goes far beyond bringing talents to light.Now we need something new, again.@Hybrid any news on Season 2 soundtrack release?Of cause Balfe worked on it !!! His whole team are credited !!!!!!!Honestly, the purpose of RCP is essentially to take Zimmer's style and make it widespread for use...WB not using ANY RCP to score this seems to have been deliberate, as there's literally no reason it couldn't be done.^ hahaha :D<br><br>I think you're forgetting that Balfe also ghostwrote The Lord of the Rings?
They're starting to send screeners. Finger crossed for the FYC :DThe score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.<br><br>The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).<br><br>When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.<br><br>When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.<br><br>But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.@Edmund <br>Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmer’s Superman theme, something we haven’t heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it<br>======================================<br><br>Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.
I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.The studio is the music owner now.There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got. <br>Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.and Zimmer criticized Elfman...back and forth, etc. So what? The movie is lame, the score is about as lame as Bat V Sup
@JBSO99 you're right. It's so big and widely spread.<br><br>And you're right about me forgetting those score. I just picked these three because Elfman critized Zimmer@Iamtommie  You forgot the theme by Elliot Goldenthal for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, for not to mention the theme from the 60's TV show and all the themes for all the different animated motion pictures such as The Dark Knight Returns, Mask of the Phantasm, or the videogames like the Arkham series.<br><br>Batman's musical legacy is very big so him saying there is only one theme and his the one he created is really disrespectful to a big amount of composers.Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And that's what Elfman should have done if he wanted to use the old themes.I think what Elfman said is not true.<br>Batman has different themes for different movies because every Batman is different.<br><br>Michael Keaton as Batman: Elfman's Theme<br>Christian Bale as Batman: Hans' Theme<br>Ben Affleck as Batman: Hans & Junkie's Theme.<br>Of course much more but the most important.<br><br>Each one if dies Batman's have a different story and a different universe. I think that for each universe a new theme is the best thing you can do. With a different theme you can relate more to this Batman than a previous one.<br><br>By the way, I think TDK, MoS & WW are 3 of the top 10 themes by Zimmer. I think what Elfman did the WW theme is an abomination. He removed the key instrument in the theme because he thought it was childisch.<br><br>I think the Justce League score is way worse than previous DCEU or Batman movies. I hope that Lorne of Junkie will do future DCUE movies instead of Elfman.<br><br>(Seeing Justice League thursday. I am curious if it is really that bad as everyine says)GITS was unreleased, JXL's JL score was completely rejected. The real qustion is how many rejected scores have leaked in the history of modern film scoring?
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Jan reply Replies: 2 || 2017-06-13 13:57:19
According to amazon.de the Dunkirk soundtrack will be released by Sony Classical on July 21. No special edition announced yet, one disc only.


Waymann2017-06-13 14:11:33
Luckily not 2 weeks after the release of the movie like interstellar. That's kind of frustrating.


Jan2017-06-16 07:33:20
Release is postponed to July 28 :(

Mehmetcan reply Replies: 0 || 2017-06-11 09:29:30
Hi there :) Which ones are Blake's composed Themes for the movie "The Da Vinci Code"?

isildur reply Replies: 10 || 2017-06-04 22:37:17
Hey Hybrid, was listening to the "HZ's Obsession" on your youtube channel. Real nice spotting dude.


Hybrid Soldier2017-06-04 22:43:42
;)

Hans once said it was a mix between Dies Irae and a German nursery rhyme...

For sure it has haunted him somehow for many years ! lol


isildur2017-06-04 23:14:54
Wow! No wonder all those tracks are amazing. Dies Irae inspiring also makes sense since all those movies somehow deal with the concept of death.


Vivien2017-06-05 00:21:25
I love this melody since I heard it in Angels and Demons !


mpolonest123 2017-06-05 01:42:19
Funnily enough this has always been one of my favorite melodies throughout HZ's career, particularly the "dancing string" variation from Hannibal.

Would Lois's theme from MoS and the Oscorp motif from ASM2 also count as this?


mpolonest123 2017-06-05 01:48:59
And for that matter, the "Woad" theme at 5:50 in Woad to Ruin definitely uses the riff.

Great video Hybrid btw!


Agustin2017-06-07 00:32:28
In the road to el Dorado there are some epic versions of this motiff, with chours and stuff.

I had never noticed it was also in interstellar until now. I think, at this point, it's like the wilhelm scream of Hans music, it has to be in every soundtrack.


Nonore2017-06-09 01:30:16
Where could we find this video, please ?


Hybrid Soldier2017-06-09 14:51:36
youtube.com/watch?v=dJon35fr5Rs


Nonore2017-06-10 00:52:14
Thank you very much, Hybrid !


David2017-06-11 00:58:08
wow cool youtube channel Hybrid! thanks for sharing the soundtrack suites :)

Borrtex reply Replies: 1 || 2017-06-06 14:40:37
Two days ago, we did an interview with Hans in Prague and he said, that Dunkirk was the most demanding score he has ever worked on! :) So, I guess we have something to be looking for!!


Lynk2017-06-06 15:50:31
mmm... Last time we heard the man say something in those lines was during Da Vinci Code.

Ahmad reply Replies: 4 || 2017-05-25 16:19:53
Tina Guo recorded cello for Dunkirk. I'm really excited.


Bioscope2017-05-25 17:20:26
Ditto :)


Mephariel2017-05-26 08:25:03
She did 32 hours of Cello work for this...wow.


JBSO992017-05-26 12:26:35
32 hours!!! I think this will be played as a lament in a slow-motion scene where it looks like they're gonna get killed. Cannot wait for it!


Edmund Meinerts2017-05-26 14:15:59
There's no kill like overkill. Plus another thing that'll sound good for the inevitable Hans/Nolan PR train I guess. *shrug*

Dragonseeker reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-24 22:14:34
Lorne Balfe attached to score Horse Soldiers.

They guy is everywhere.


Anton2017-05-24 23:10:50
Just read that on film music reporter . Lorne has to be the most in demand composer at the moment . Amazing how busy he is and really enjoying his score to Genius

Mephariel reply Replies: 17 || 2017-05-05 23:45:30
Excited for this!

Hybrid, is the music from the newest trailer actually from the score?

Also, is this a solo effort from Hans Zimmer?


Mike (OTM)2017-05-06 15:10:53
Same question about "solo Zimmer" - Interstellar felt really special for that. :) I'm expecting Steve Mazzaro in some capacity, though.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-06 15:41:04
I know who worked on it but I'm waiting for the "official" credits before dropping everything, it was not an easy journey (but it rarely is !) !


Joshua2017-05-07 20:56:45
Hybrid, you saying that this was not an easy journey really is interesting. I was thinking about this about a week ago when I read an interview with Zimmer, and he said he was having to finish cues for Dunkirk on the tour bus between shows! And it just struck me as odd because in the past Zimmer and Nolan seem to wrap post fairly early on. With it being 2 months from the release and Zimmer is still working on it seemed strange. Very interested to hear what happened here.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-07 21:02:25
And Hans still has a faithful lieutenant working on it on site while he's touring ! Not unknown to Nolan ! ;)


Joshua2017-05-07 21:33:32
Wow, and the plot thickens lol.


Mephariel2017-05-07 22:18:11
Hybrid, is this is synth score primarily or are there going to be orchestrated sections?

Looking back, I think maybe he took on too many projects last year. He started Dunkirk in January 2016 right? In between then and now, he was involved in The Crown, Planet Earth II, Hidden Figures, The Boss Baby while having 2 months off on tour.



Ahmad2017-05-07 23:37:45
Zoe Zimmer (Hans' daughter) shared a photo and a video of Hans and Chris in a studio recording a brass section. I hope that answers your question.


Edmund Meinerts2017-05-08 01:53:30
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that none of those four projects you listed there, Mephariel, were exactly hands-on ones for Hans... ;)


Joshua2017-05-08 20:14:22
Yeah, Hans and Nolan's relationship has been super experimental since the beginning. Nolan encourages it, so I doubt Nolan would be the cause of the headaches (though i could be wrong). But to me this reeks of studio interference.


Joshua2017-05-08 20:15:43
And yeah, I doubt it has anything to do with Hans' other projects he had last year. His role in those seemed minimal.


Mike (OTM)2017-05-08 20:38:00
Alright, so this one is definitely a co-score, then. D'you think the other guy working on it will get front cover credit, or no? You can never tell with Zimmer's projects. Seems to be that credits depend on a whim. Ha.


Joshua2017-05-08 21:17:36
God how awesome would it be if it was James Newton Howard again. (Wishful thinking...)


Mike (OTM)2017-05-08 23:33:51
Well, JNH did work on Hans Zimmer Live recently and posted a FB video about it. Maybe there's more to this than we've been told! ;)

Sadly, though, the realistic side of me doubts it.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-08 23:49:02
I talked with James there ! (I'm even on that video at some point ! lol ;))

And no he's quite busy with his own stuff !


Joshua2017-05-09 00:44:19
Well we know it cant be Steve because he's on the road with Zimmer. My money is on Lorne ;)


isildur2017-05-09 07:31:15
"Not unknown to Nolan!" Well, it's obviously Lorne. He did work extensively on Inception. So, no worries. Lorne knows what to do.


isildur2017-05-21 15:12:36
Told ya! Now, officially it's Lorne.

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 18 || 2017-05-10 03:45:37
This score in my mind will be a masterpiece. I can't explain why, I just do. I wonder how similar or disimilar to The Thin Red Line.


Kalman2017-05-10 12:28:18
I really hope you're right because what I heard in the latest trailer didn't convince me at all. I hope it was not from Hans' score (can anyone confirm it is from the actual score or not?) Or, at least, that the score itself will be much, much better.


JBSO992017-05-10 17:07:41
Well, the music from the trailers, if it's from the composer of the film, generally is music for making the trailer look awesome and they use cheap composing ways to create this, but the score it's usually by far better than the trailer music.
And it's Zimmer with Nolan, nothing bad can come from this two working together!


TomMuso2017-05-10 19:54:25
Remember when Balfe did he trailer for Inception and that included Hans music in it .


no2017-05-10 22:24:31
Lorne didn't compose from Dunkirk.
He said official Facebook page.


Mephariel2017-05-10 22:47:27
I wonder who then. Rupert Gregson-Williams?


Joshua2017-05-10 23:21:50
Kawczynski?! Is that mate why he's not on tour this time?


Joshua2017-05-10 23:23:20
*maybe


no2017-05-11 03:30:02
I don't think Hans giving responsibility Kawczynski. Hans i guess finish March on the Dunkirk score. Maybe again solo job Hans.


Andreas2017-05-11 10:12:53
It would be great if it was Balfe . Call of Duty was one of the best game scores. They are a great team


no2017-05-11 17:21:11
Lorne is not co-composer on Dunkirk dude.


Andreas2017-05-11 19:31:01
Why not Dude ! Why shouldn't he get credit for what he does? He was all over the last Kung Fu Panda and didn't get any credit !


Mike2017-05-11 22:50:46
I agree it would be great for Balfe to get proper great. Not sure why he doesn't seem to be given proper co credit ? Sherlock for a co - producer .


Olivia2017-05-12 02:17:38
Probably is Balfe. He is scoring something for Warner. Source: facebook.


Mephariel2017-05-12 02:48:36
Balfe could be talking about Geostorm, not Dunkirk.


Joshua2017-05-14 01:03:16
@no was literally wrong about everything he said above lol :):):):) Very cool that Balfe is back on a Nolan film.


Joseph Solano2017-05-14 01:32:01
@JBS099 The music from the teaser might be because it sounds a lot like Winter Soldier.


Andreas2017-05-14 21:33:46
Wow wow wow !!! Balfe is back on board . This will be good and very excited now


Olivia2017-05-21 05:57:21
No one orchestrator? Hum... The score entire will electronic, then?

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 4 || 2017-05-13 23:17:14
Hybrid, was Lorne the guy working "on-site"? And is this another "music produced by Lorne Balfe" score, i.e., co-composed by Lorne Balfe?


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-13 23:35:47
I don't think so, Hans was on it for a year and a half. Lorne's been there for a couple of months, Andrew probably more. I think they're FINALLY done by now (about time !!! lol) !


mpolonest123 2017-05-13 23:42:17
If Satnam is doing some additional music expect some killer percussive elements...


NM2017-05-14 00:24:49
What the hell is Lorne made of? The guy never stops writing!


Mephariel2017-05-14 01:31:20
I wonder when the musicians will be listed and if Tino Guo or Martin Tillman has any role in this. Cello performances seem like a staple in a solemn, dark, moody Zimmer film.

... reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-13 21:11:36
Lorne is making additional score for it! aaaaaaaaaa!!

Matt reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-08 22:44:03
Thankyou Hans I was very down last night and just listening to your music gave me a big lift. Thanks for sharing your gift with us.

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-07 15:05:57
Can't wait of this! Chris and Hans' collaboration never disappoint.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2017-05-05 22:18:44
OK, time to add this !


Dimitris Krommidas2017-05-06 00:13:23
Yes!


Ahmad2017-05-06 01:19:22
Hell yeah. I'm still wondering if the music in the second half of the first trailer (trailer #2) is Hans or not. I guess we won't get any confirmation until the movie/score comes out in July.


JBSO992017-05-06 12:00:43
It isn't too soon for this? Well I don't mind. I would love to hear it as soon as possible but until the movie, probably we won't get to hear anything. The music from the trailers is from Zimmer?

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