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hahahah sorry "true"<br>truuuuuuuuuuCan't wait to hear some of it. I wonder what Zimmer thought about John Powell's take on Dark Phoenix.Is this tru or false?<br><br>01 - M1 Rise of An Empire/Marathon/King Darius/Artemisia/Man to God/War (13:35)<br>02 - M2 Greek Council/Persian War Plan/Spartan Fight Training (03:39)<br>03 - M3 Greek Conversation/Your Commander is Greek (07:06)<br>04 - M4 Artemisia's Story (03:07)<br>05 - M5 Bad News (01:13)<br>06 - M6 Suicide/General Bandari (02:11)<br>07 - M7 Circle Battle (05:18)<br>08 - M8 Atemisia's Disappiontment/The Fog Battle (09:55)<br>09 - M9 Summoning Themistocles (02:44)<br>10 - M10 Sex (05:39)<br>11 - M11 Fire Battle (06:24)<br>12 - M12 Hero's Blood/Dead Spartans (04:47)<br>13 - M14 I Am the God King (02:46)<br>14 - M15 Our Final Stand (03:00)<br>15 - M16 Showdown Pt.1 (04:25)<br>16 - M17 Showdown Pt.2 (04:42)<br>17 - M18 United Greece (02:32)<br>18 - M19 Finale (01:25)<br>19 - M20 War Pigs (JXL Remix) (02:11)<br>20 - M21 End Credits (06:21)I know that much, the first part has some extra loops in the show.<br>But I am 100 % certain the part after 1:40 only plays later, when Jon Snow is forced to start fighting again
Politicals and tax refund!!!!!The one true king. A masterpiece.I checked multiple times in the episode. It all before The Last War. But in the epiaode it is a longer cueI think The Bells is split around the middle (at 1:40), and the 2nd part goes after The Last WarHans was replaced...<br><br><br>By Hans... ;)<br><br><br>He wrote hours & hours & hours & hours of music for that film in the past 1.5 years...
Chronological order (100%):<br><br>Episode 1<br>- Main Titles<br>- Arrival At Winterfell<br>- Flight Of Dragons<br>- Heir To The Throne<br><br>Episode 2<br>- A Knight Of The Seven Kingdoms<br>- Jenny Of Oldstones<br><br>Episode 3<br>- The Battle For Winterfell<br>- The Dead Are Already Here<br>- The Long Night, Pt. 1<br>- Battle For The Skies<br>- The Long Night, Pt. 2<br>- The Night King<br>- Dead Before The Dawn<br>- Not Today (Choral part unused, beginning and end is end credits)<br><br>Episode 4<br>- Farewell<br>- Outside The Gates<br><br>Episode 5<br>- The Bells<br>- The Last War<br>- For Cersei (0:00-1:23)<br>- Into The War<br>- For Cersei (1:23-3:03)<br>- Believe<br>- For Cersei (3:03-end)<br><br>Episode 6<br>- Nothing Else Matters<br>- Master Of War<br>- Be With Me<br>- The Iron Throne<br>- Break The Wheel<br>- You Have A Choice<br>- The White Book<br>- The Last Of The Starks<br>- A Song Of Ice And Fire<br><br>Unused<br>- The Rains Of Castamere<br>- Stay A Thousand YearsNo way has he been replaced. There’s literally no way.I don't think Zimmer has been replaced. Back in the end of April, Simon Kinberg was beaming about how he got Hans Zimmer to do this score by irritating him. He even shown 2 clips with Zimmer's music and some of the audience members mentioned how cool the music was. <br><br>Tina Guo also stated she can't wait to hear it and she worked on it herself. And this was in May. If they replaced Zimmer, it must be the quickest, most silent replacement ever.  <br><br>Could it happen? Yeah. I don't think it is likely.Really, I don't know how he does it. This score is sooo good. It's frightening, romantic, thrilling & adventurous all in one!. I'm happy there are some small cues on the album not used in the season. And his choral use is absolutely out of this world!!!<br><br>Might be the best of the the GoT scores. But it's a tough one between this and season 6If Hans Zimmer was replaced, Internet burn<br><br><br>
Just wondering if this set is done in English or is it country dependentthere have been many cases of a score getting replaced/rehashed/rejected/what have you after a test screening and its because the studio execs think people dont like the music. so it could be the music or it could be another case who knows i guess well have to wait and seeRemember, this is a business, the studio want the movie be know, one aspect is the music.<br><br>Recent example: Hellboy, the score came out by Sony ClassicalI thought that was the earlier test screenings and the more recent ones were more well received? I could be wrong though.<br><br>It’ll be interesting because the director definitely seemed excited about HZ composing the score. So that would make you think it’s got some potential. But we also haven’t been hearing much about the movie at all lately, let alone hearing about the score so who really knows anything at this point?What I’m curious about is if the delays in the release date, PLUS the reshoots, had any impact on Zimmer’s music. <br>The test-screenings supposedly didn’t go well, I doubt it would affect the score all that much but at this point who really knows.

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  2. We Need Our Army Back (6:28)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Shivering Soldier (2:52)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. Supermarine (8:03)
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  5. The Tide (3:48)
    Hans Zimmer (Sir Edward Elgar)
  6. Regimental Brothers (5:04)
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  7. Impulse (2:36)
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  8. Home (6:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Benjamin Wallfisch (Sir Edward Elgar)
  9. The Oil (6:10)
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  10. Variation 15 (Dunkirk) (5:51)
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  11. End Titles (Dunkirk) (7:12)
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isildur reply Replies: 3 || 2019-03-05 23:54:22
Apparently, the new Nolan film is a romantic thriller described as North by Northwest meets Inception. I can't even imagine how Hans' score would sound like. But I am so pumped for this score. Probably they'll go full orchestral with beautiful themes!?

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mpolonest123 2019-03-06 00:02:05
Nolan has always been a pretty cerebral filmmaker, so seeing him do a romantic film in the vein of Hitchcock has me very excited. As for the music, I really would kill to hear Zimmer do an old fashioned “Bernard Hermann esque” type of score. I love Zimmer’s experimenting but it’s been a while since we’ve gotten a big orchestral score from him. Especially since he is capable of writing some beautiful love themes (think “Marry Me” or Pearl Harbor).

Mephariel2019-03-06 01:23:33
This sounds interesting as hell. I wonder what Zimmer will come up with.

Kent Öberg2019-03-06 12:21:24
This has been debunked.

Jerry reply Replies: 7 || 2019-02-20 23:56:00
With the complete cue sheet out now. Does anyone know what the chronological order of the album would be?

Mike2019-02-21 03:01:21
It's not really possible to chronologically order the album because the album doesn't use the same tracks as the movie. Plus, the album is more or less chronological anyway, given the areas where they are the same.

mpolonest123 2019-02-21 03:30:17
Comparing it to YFM’s sfx edit this is what I’ve got;

“The Mole” seems to be an alternate of the opening sequence. The first minute or so is used, while the rest isn’t. “We Need Our Army Back/Regimental Brothers” are both made up of several cues from different points in the film.
“Home” is completely different in the film, which makes me think it may have been recorded specifically for the album. Similar situation with “Oil”.
“Supermarine” is definitely a suite. The rest is chronological.

Interesting thing to note, it seems like a lot of the tempo changes/ticking effects/bass overlays were removed from the album release, making almost every track sound different from the actual film versions. The music in context has a constant pulse going, especially in the way cues segue into each other and change tempo.

Mike2019-02-21 04:52:38
I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train.

I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product?

While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.

Ahmad2019-02-21 10:32:55
The Mole P1 (0-1:57)
Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)
The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)
Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)
We Need Our Army Back
Shivering Soldier
Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)
The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)
We Need Our Army Back (again)
Supermarine P2 (*5:33)
The Tide
The Oil
Variation 15
End Credits

As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.
The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different.

So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be:
The Mole
Regimental Brothers
We Need Our Army Back
Shivering Soldier
The Tide
The Oil
Variation 15
End credits

As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.

mpolonest123 2019-02-21 14:10:39
Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.

I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.

Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.

Mike2019-02-21 23:03:38
That's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it."

I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?

YFM2019-02-22 04:23:51
Most of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track.

The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)

Mike reply Replies: 2 || 2019-02-19 08:20:30
I watched the movie and tried to put the cuesheet that Hybrid posted into chronological order... This is what I was able to gather from watching the movie:

1. Opening Pt. 1 - HZ
2. Opening Pt. 2 - HZ, SM
3. The Beach Pt. 1 - HZ
4. The Beach Pt. 2 - HZ, AK
5. The Air - HZ
6. Stretcher Carry - HZ, AK
7. Approaching Trawler - HZ
8. Bandit 11 O’Clock / Off You Go - HZ
9. One Bandit Down - HZ
10. Meeting Rear Admiral - HZ
11. Shivering Soldier - HZ
12. Fortis Leader Down - HZ
13. Stuka Bombing Medical Ship - HZ, Andy Page
14. U-Boat - HZ
15. Boarding Destroyer/Below Deck - HZ, Andy Page
16. I’m Not Going Back to Dunkirk - HZ
17. Heinkel 11 O’Clock - HZ, Satnam Ramgotra
18. Torpedo - HZ, Satnam Ramgotra
19. Soldier Locked Below Deck - HZ
20. Collins Water Landing - HZ
21. Torpedo Aftermath - HZ
22. Wait for Another Lifeboat - HZ
23. Turn it Around! - HZ
24. George Falls - HZ
25. Farrier Attacks Heinkel - HZ, LB
26. The Bodies Come Back - HZ
27. I Can’t See - HZ, Alex Gibson
28. Farrier Turns Back - HZ
29. Activate Small Vessels Pool - HZ
30. Waiting for the Tide - HZ
31. Should We Turn Back - HZ
32. Smoke From the Spitfire - HZ
33. Dutch Sailor Comes Back - HZ
34. Collins Crash Landing - HZ
35. There Was No Chute - HZ
36. Target Practice - HZ
37. Collins Struggles / Ditch Ballast - HZ
38. Sauerkraut Sauce - HZ
39. Collins Underwater HZ
40. Minesweeper Bombed / Trawler Floats - HZ, AK
41. Plug the Hole - HZ
42. Nimrod - HZ, BW
43. Covered in Oil / Abandon Ship - HZ, AK
44. Where Are You From - HZ
45. 109 Approaching - HZ
46. Engineless Flight - HZ, BW
47. Rail Yard - HZ
48. Variation 15 - HZ, BW
49. End Credits / 5MEC1 - HZ, BW, LB
50. End Credits Long Note Harmonics v.12.7 - HZ
51. End Credits Air - HZ v.31.07
52. End Credits Tommy v8.00

I'm missing the following in this list: Attack Aftermath / Navy Requisition, Decent Altitude, Destroyer By, Farrier Chasing 109, Farrier Chased by 109, and Little Boats. Anyone know where those go?

Andrew K2019-02-19 22:50:51
I recommend you check out YFM’s edit cause it has all those cues properly where they belong as well as a slightly different order.

Mike2019-02-20 01:11:03
Thanks for the heads up. Haven't checked his stuff in a while. Like I said, I figured some stuff was off here.

Kent Öberg reply Replies: 1 || 2019-02-08 12:46:40
From a new French interview with HZ:

Q: Do you plan to work with Nolan on a next feature film?
A: No idea! I spoke to Chris a few months ago. I asked him how it was and he said, "I'm sitting in front of a blank page now." [Laughs] I understand that.

Kind of surprising, no? HZ is usually onboard so early when it comes to Nolan.

Knight2019-02-08 12:56:59
By the sounds of it, the film is in super early stages of production, so it makes some sense that HZ isn't in the project yet

Radik reply Replies: 14 || 2019-01-26 09:51:09
Christopher Nolan announed his new project. Hope Hans is going to be at board. I anticipate anothrr masterpiece. :)

challenge2019-01-26 18:59:35
It'll be interesting to hear what experiment they come up with next. Interstellar was great. Dunkirk was interesting.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Nolan subverted expectations and challenged Hans to write proper, well-formed classical music. It'd be really interesting to hear the results.

Mephariel2019-01-27 02:52:36
How many movie is Zimmer going to score in 2020? He already has Wonder Woman 1984, SpongeBob, and Top Gun: Maverick. Now he is going to score Nolan's next film. That is like 4 films in within a 3-4 months span. Hopefully he won't spread his ideas too thin.

Knight2019-01-27 03:01:54
I expect a lot of work for Mazzaro and Kawczynski in the coming years xD

isildur2019-01-27 09:10:57
Hans is scoring SpongeBob movie? When did this news come out? I think Hans is finished scoring WW1984 movie already.

Mephariel2019-01-28 00:23:46
Maybe Hybrid can confirm, but I highly doubt Zimmer is finished with WW1984 already. He is still working on The Lion King and I am not sure if he finished Dark Phoenix yet. Where will he find time to do WW1984? Besides, WW didn't finished production until December of last year. That means they are still editing the movie.

And yes, he is doing the next SpongeBob movie. It was announced last year.

java2019-01-29 08:22:13
what event film it's gonna be? Inception

Scorefan2019-01-30 00:16:14
Hans is working on The Lion King. The Dark Phoenix is completed even with the reshoots to this year. Next Year WW84, so he has enough time.

Mephariel2019-01-30 05:47:05
He will probably finish WW1984 by fall of this year. I think he won't do much on Top Gun. Harold Faltermeyer will do most of the work. That leaves Spongebob and maybe his team can do most of the work as well. So he will spend most of winter and next year on Nolan's project. That is what I am thinking.

Ian2019-01-31 07:44:51
Damn, seeing how many projects Hans has lined up honestly makes me worry that we'll be getting a ton of recycled/generic/minimalist/ambient/ghostwritten stuff rather than authentic, compelling Zimmer. I do hope I'm wrong, though!

mpolonest123 2019-01-31 13:06:07
I wouldn’t worry. Just look at 2013. We had MOS, The Lone Ranger, 12 Years A Slave, Rush, and Mr. Morgan’s Last Love. Pretty strong/diverse lineup if you ask me.

Ds2019-02-02 11:48:32
@mpolonest: so in fact in 2013 the only real Zimmer scores we had were Man Of Steel and Rush.
Most of The Lone Ranger was done by the additional composers (Geoff mainly). And so was Mr Morgan's Last Love, if I remember well.
12 Years A Slave is a lazy piece of rehashing that cannot be given as an example of anything good.

So that's exactly the kind of concerns Ian was talking about :-p

mpolonest123 2019-02-02 13:30:38
Yeah, I probably shouldn’t have included 12yas lol...

But even The Lone Ranger, despite being heavily influenced by other sources and having the ghostwriters, is still a pretty fun score that does have Zimmer’s stamp on it. I would take that over “Widows” any day...

Mike2019-02-02 20:45:59
I think we can count The Lone Ranger as a real Zimmer score. As far as we know, he did the suites (Absurdity, Silver, Home), and the whole score sounds like him throughout. True, he didn't like working on the movie, which he admitted, but I definitely think it's "his" score as much as any other score post-2005.

Zanelli was working on Finale before Zimmer wrote anything, but even there, he couldn't finish the cue until Zimmer came in to write stuff.

Ds2019-02-02 22:11:05
Don’t get me wrong on The Lone Ranger, I like this score (and LOVE that movie), but to me it sounds like HZ did this quickly to help a friend, but didn’t put a lot of heart or ideas in it. Absurdity is a fun suite but it’s little more than another spin on 160BPM. Silver is lovely but heavily lifted from some source music (can’t remember which one). And Home is just like this Solomon theme from 12yas.

A fun and enjoyable score, free from any « concept » or « experiment », which felt fresh, but ultimately didn’t really bring anything we hadn’t heard before. Except the astonishing work on William Tell, of course!

curba reply Replies: 2 || 2019-01-04 03:31:54
Hans enough! relaese the complete score!.....

Hans2019-01-06 17:32:48
Sure. Calling the company right now.

Mike2019-01-07 16:30:34

lomp reply Replies: 2 || 2018-11-08 11:52:14
the complete score is out!!!

kareem2018-11-09 01:33:34
No, you lying...

Will2018-11-13 02:16:08
I wish

nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-21 01:12:35
i love this score so much. this comment is for Hans and team again for making such an amazing score. if they ever read what we write here lol : )

so, i am not a movie goer and many people claim and say that scores are to serve movies, and so and forth. well, i finally watched Dunkirk and it is an excellent movie. the movie did not do justice to the score imo.

here's an example. "Variation 15" on Nimrod is the "soothing" track for me in the whole score. much more soothing than "Home". i can play it in a loop. it surprised me that the cut gave it only a mere few seconds in the movie. now, i only watched Dunkirk once but i am pretty sure it played once, and for a few seconds, while "Bane" was in the plane.

another fact is that i always felt like being in a war plane when listening to "Supermarine". not an helicopter but more like a fast moving plane. that was before watching the movie and i never read about the movie. i knew it was about war and the only war machine i could think of was that. the fact that i was able to match the music with my own images says how great Hans and team were on that.

the constant tension felt in the "Mole", "Supermarine", etc. is more intense in the movie though. i liked that.

also, i watched the movie credits to the very end. i wanted to see if they would match it with the track. they did, and it ends exactly with the starting point as i expected. for me it was a cue that "the war didn't end there". sad, yes, but the effect was on point.

so okay, i am minority here in saying that a score album put together is its own thing. doesn't need a movie to exist. great movie. great score. both in their own rights!

nvictor reply Replies: 17 || 2018-06-26 13:55:59
anyone knows scores similar to dunkirk? can't get enough of this sound (or rather need more of it...)

Jay the Dinosaur2018-06-27 07:39:19
Elgar's Nimrod Variations

nvictor2018-06-27 13:19:20
you got me lol. no no, not the Nimrod sound : ) the other sound of dunkirk

... 2018-06-27 15:22:55
Captain Philips has similar portions

Mike (OTM)2018-06-27 16:00:45
Yeah, Captain Phillips is the closest thing I can think of to Dunkirk... And Hans did writing on it, coincidentally.

Ds2018-06-27 22:15:28
When I was watching A Quiet Place there were quite a few moments where I thought the score was kind of similar to Dunkirk, mostly in the suspense cues. Never relistened to it though, so maybe it was just an impression.

nvictor2018-06-28 19:46:09
thanks all

Koly2018-06-28 22:15:09
Gravity IMHO

nvictor2018-07-17 23:08:36
finally got to listen to a quiet place. it has indeed the atmospheric vibe i got from dunkirk. although i will give it another listen before deciding. anyways, you have great ears Ds. and you said you listened to the background music during the movie even, wow!

after that i got to listen to 3:10 to yuma, which went straight onto my wishlist. and made me research Marco Beltrami. no idea how i never heard from his scores till now! he is very amazing on those two scores i have listened to so far.

now, i realized that (most) horror movies might have that atmospheric/ambient sound. so i wondered what makes dunkirk special? pretty sure it is that tension that never seems to fade (not the nimrod theme though). most horror movies are to scare you at particular moments. dunkirk keeps the tension constant. so much that you get comfortable with it. that's what makes it so special for me.

will keep looking. oh i tried captain philips and gravity too. will give those another listen.

Ds2018-07-18 10:58:28
mvictor: it's funny, 3:10 To Yuma is perhaps the only Beltrami score I really like :-p

In my opinion, what made Dunkirk special is that it's a Zimmer score, so it sounds better, massive, impressive, while most horror scores stay in the background except for a few jump scares that are not pleasing at all when you listen to the album. Dunkirk is a tension-builder, but it's more than that.

You should definitely listen to Gravity a couple more times, it's an absolutely amazing score, in my opinion better than Dunkirk, as it's equally tense and massive, but has more refined electronic manipulation, it's more colorful and it's simply more musical. Go straight to the track 'Shenzou', play it very loud, and you'll see what I mean :-p

nvictor2018-07-24 18:27:56
alright, will give Gravity another try

i had 3.10 to Yuma in a loop for days now. the theme is stuck in my head. can't get it out. and today i tried logan. it got me immediately. give it a try if you haven't.

what got me is the blend of a real grand piano and a real drumset with the orchestra. i have not heard it done so well. Marco Beltrami is now a definite favorite and i am only the 3rd soundtrack

mpolonest123 2018-07-24 19:38:39
Marco Beltrami is a solid composer who seems to get pigeonholed in horror most of the time.

I would definitely recommend I Robot, Soul Surfer, SnowPiercer, Scream, and Logan if you want a good variety of his style.

Mephariel2018-07-24 22:53:20
I absolutely hate Beltrami's writing. He doesn't have the melodic prowess of the elites and sucks at writing virtually any underscore or suspense music.

I can't believe he made Soul Surfer because that score is so good, I keep thinking Horner wrote it.

Edmund Meinerts2018-07-25 11:09:05
Beltrami's not that great melodically but I think he's a more than solid action/suspense composer. I particularly love his Die Hard scores for that, as well as I, Robot, Hellboy, Seventh Son and Gods of Egypt. And he's also pretty good at coming up with unusual and creative textures and orchestrations. But a lot of his albums end up being slogs, and the quality seems to vary a lot from project to project.

He's a mixed bag of a composer but not remotely deserving of the hate I sometimes see him get from people like Mephariel, Ds or Macejko.

Ds2018-07-25 19:43:14
Lol since when am I a hater? :-o

If anything, Beltrami is in my "I don't care" zone. I remain fully open-minded if I watch a movie scored by him, but I confess I don't pursue his projects in the same way I'm doing my best to watch any movie scored by major RCP composers :-)

nvictor2018-07-25 20:18:27
come one guys, you always want to turn everything into a debate. thanks again, Ds, for making me discover Marco Beltrami.

also can we post youtube links here? here's logan main title, such a great track

Edmund Meinerts2018-07-26 00:33:12
"you always want to turn everything into a debate"...uh, my bad? Didn't realize that wasn't what this comment section was for. Must have missed the memo.

Ds - sorry, could've sworn I had seen disparaging comments about Beltrami from you at some point. Like I said, he gets a weird amount of hate around here, maybe I confused you for someone else...

Ty2018-07-26 18:14:07
Check out any of Gyorgy Ligeti's work from the '50s-60s. Second string quartet

badbu reply Replies: 0 || 2018-07-25 08:32:31
i want the complete score so so much!!! arggggh

Anonymous reply Replies: 17 || 2018-05-10 13:57:31
What is the next project of hans zimmer in 2018 for a movie ?
Is there any block buster movie in 2018 which hans zimmer composed ?

Max Potcats2018-05-10 14:56:36
he mentioned a top secret project with wallfisch, also he's making the lion king live and dark phoenix for 2019, but that's it I think

Mephariel2018-05-10 17:02:31
Where did you hear about a top secret project with Wallfisch?

George2018-05-10 17:05:16
In the Hans Zimmer Roundtable by Spitfire Audio on YouTube. Well worth the watch by the way.

Joshua2018-05-10 23:18:33
I was looking through all the releases from now till the end of the year trying to think of possible films it could be. Do we know the story with Disney's Christopher Robin? I remember reading Klaus was gonna do it. But then when Johann passed, it was revealed he was actually scoring it. So does that mean Klaus is back in or is there someone new? I could see Hans and Ben doing this film.

George2018-05-11 01:00:16
I've done the same, Joshua, and honestly I have no idea what film it could be. I'm hoping it's at least something with strong themes with a strong Zimmer stamp on it... its been awhile since we've had one of those.

Mephariel2018-05-11 17:18:30
Major 2018 films with no composers announced

Alpha, Escape Room, Mortal Engines

Not a lot of choices. I would love to see Zimmer score something like Moral Engines. Or course, it could be a small film we don't know about. More likely, he is doing a replacement score.

lol2018-05-11 21:29:58
It's called sherlock Holmes 3

mpolonest123 2018-05-11 22:21:49
Apparently the animated Spider-Man movie coming from Sony has no one attached yet as a composer. Imagine Zimmer returning to that universe? And he has a relationship with Sony already so it’s not too unlikely.

Mephariel2018-05-11 22:48:52
Possible. But they either didn't ask him to do Venom. Either that or he decline to do that film. I feel like Zimmer is too picky now to do something like Spider-Man.

Max Potcats2018-05-11 23:51:58
No more "dumb blockbusters" for Hans now, so I don't see him scoring Venom.
On Sherlock 3 if Guy Ritchie is call to direct it I don't see why HZ wouldn't make it, he had some issues with the producer on SH1 but I guess it's over now..
In the "worst" scenario Pemberton on Sherlock would be great, as for King Arthur.

Dunkirk2018-05-12 07:42:14
I am curious for complete soundtrack of Dunkirk than what's gonna be his next movie

lol2018-05-12 07:46:46
its sherlock 3.

Everan2018-05-13 01:57:33
Ludwig Goransson from Black Panther is attached to Venom for now. Besides Dark Phoenix, and hopefully Sherlock 3, doubt he'll make another big one until Nolan makes another film

Joshua2018-05-13 07:42:21
Sherlock 3 doesn’t come out until 2020.

Jsdamian2018-05-13 23:53:40
Widows, november 2018, steve mcqueen

Jsdamian2018-05-16 19:18:24
Maybe snyder's cut?

awesome2018-06-04 13:35:30
the complete score is so amazing!!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2018-05-11 14:14:04
I hope hans zimmer compose the music of captain marvel . Future of MCU is bright and amazing Unlike DCEU which without nolan is going down .

Mephariel2018-05-11 17:09:01
While that is highly unlikely, I think Zimmer moving into Marvel films is a good idea. I think the terrible quality of DC films really affected Zimmer's scoring. Dark Phoenix is a nice start.

With that said, Zimmer doesn't seem like he wants to score conventional superhero movies. Dark Phoenix is more like a drama than a superhero film from what I read.

Thomas reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-11 09:28:52
Schreckliche Musik!

Radik reply Replies: 2 || 2018-03-21 07:14:12
Stretcher Carry is avaibale on soundcloud. It' merely recreation but it's awesome almost like film version.

Jon2018-04-27 02:08:07
Where can I find it?

Radik2018-04-30 20:14:16
It's seems that it is already gone but I was able to get it. If you have interest, you can contact me PM.

Mephariel reply Replies: 0 || 2018-04-20 07:35:47
Andrew Kawczynski scored the movie Sky Hunter. The score is available on Spotify now.

The score is probably the most melodic/heroic that I heard from him.

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2018-04-14 19:27:02
This may have been brought up before, but... why exactly did Hans need Ben Wallfisch for Variation 15? It's hardly that much different than the original, and besides, the most memorable part of it that's not the original is the string-brass crescendo at the end. And that was obviously Hans.

So what did Wallfisch do? Honest question.

George reply Replies: 2 || 2018-03-15 15:34:51
Have any of you done Hans' Masterclass online? I'm considering getting it really just to see and understand his process better, but is it worth my money?

mpolonest1232018-03-15 16:57:28
I did it about a year ago and if you are a fan of Hans, or just want to get some great insight on film scoring in general, you should definitely check it out!

nvictor2018-03-24 20:30:32
it didn't give me super composer powers lol but you should give it a chance. the community is building up it seems. they have the advantage of talking directly (or having questions sent) to Hans.

anyway, i am a bigger fan of what Junkie is doing for free on youtube. it's way less abstract than what Hans told us. for example Hans explained to us to write to the picture, the director is your metronome and such... it wasn't until Junkie explained that he can't show us any cuts from tomb raider it finally made sense.

Lincoln Clay reply Replies: 1 || 2018-03-15 21:15:30
Hybrid you know what, i just need, or we just need ticking clock. IMAX Prologue amazing score, Hans did firstly this one i know. Hans my GOD Hans my Lord, please release this score just this please, please my Lord.. Dunkirk IMAX Prologue is here. https: //

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Ahmad2018-03-16 07:42:30
If only there was enough demand for this track to be released like there was for NTFC.
I love everything about it, ticking and thumping and some muted synths in the background.

I hope it gets released or leak someday. I tweeted at Lorne saying Hans should put out some unreleased Dunkirk tracks like Lorne did with GITS and he liked my tweet but that's it.

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 1 || 2018-03-08 03:35:36
I've been on the more negative side of reactions to this score, but does anyone else find the "Shivering Soldier" cue just kind of captivating? It's an extremely simple piece, yet — as simple Hans cues often do — it just kind of manages to pull you in and make you feel exactly what Cillian Murphy's character is feeling. Maybe it's the drone underneath everything. I don't know. It's certainly not a masterpiece, but unlike some parts of the score (IMO), it really works exactly like it's meant to.

badbu2018-03-08 07:38:52
yep! it's an amazing cue! the complete score is a masterpiece for me.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 22 || 2017-12-03 12:06:14
Full Dunkirk cuesheet (in alphabetical order) :

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Andy Page

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Benjamin Wallfisch, Lorne Balfe

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Benjamin Wallfisch

Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Satnam Ramgotra

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Alex Gibson

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Benjamin Wallfisch

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Benjamin Wallfisch

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Ryan Rubin

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Andy Page

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Alex Gibson

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Satnam Ramgotra

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Benjamin Wallfisch

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

badbu2017-12-03 12:22:00
WOW! Thanks :-)

Ian2017-12-03 13:36:19
I get the sense many of the above cues are variations of one another, but nonetheless it's cool to see that Hans seemingly did the bulk of the work here.

Ahmad2017-12-03 14:36:56
Thanks for cuesheet! "Sauerkraut Sauce" LOL!
"STRETCHER CARRY"... That's the one I want the most!

babdu2017-12-03 14:39:55
ich liebe Sauerkraut...aber was zum Teufel soll Sauerkraut Sauce sein? :D

Mike (OTM)2017-12-03 14:59:02
That's pretty interesting... I wouldn't have guessed that Zimmer did 95% of this alone.

Also, I never understood the logic that the film arrangement of these cues couldn't be put on album. Why not? Stitch two or three together at a time if need be. I think it would work fine.

...2017-12-03 15:40:03
I really hope we get a FYC score like we did for Interstellar. There's so much interesting stuff in the score that isn't on the OST.

Der-Profl2017-12-03 22:07:15
Is there a reason why the cuesheet is leaked now? Does this mean that we get the full soundtrack leaked in the next time? I hope so. Like Ahmad, I want to listen to "STRETCHER CARRY".

Hybrid Soldier2017-12-03 22:30:26
"Is there a reason why the cuesheet is leaked now?"


Because ASCAP finally added it to its website ? Mayyyyyyybe ?

Der-Profl2017-12-04 00:58:57
Haha. Sorry, I don't know how that all works with leaking information about soundtrack and scores. Dunkirk and Ghost In The Shell are the first ones, which I follow. (I don't know, if I can say that like that and you know what I mean.)

mpolonest123 2017-12-04 01:27:23

Are suites ever included on the cue sheets?

Hybrid Soldier2017-12-04 08:45:48
Cuesheet shows exactly what appears in the film, from the first to the last second of this film... Whatever was written for it but doesn't appear in it won't be in the cuesheet.

isildur2017-12-04 11:40:38
Want. Want. Want. It will be glorious if we get the whole thing.

...2017-12-04 12:43:44
We won't get a FYC version because WB has added the OST to their For your Consideration site. I wonder how this is even allowed, being as there's so much on this OST that isn't in the film (suites etc)

Medigo2017-12-04 13:00:10
well screw WB then
greedy bastards

...2017-12-04 13:22:20
Yeah why the hell would they upload the OST:/

Mike (OTM)2017-12-06 02:00:54
Anyone know what the chronological order of this would be?

Mike (OTM)2017-12-06 02:00:54
Anyone know what the chronological order of this would be?

badbu2017-12-08 07:52:35
The "alternate" version from "Oil" when Tom attacks the german plane oO it's soooo much better! <3 The extra strings, the ticking...gosh

Ahmad2017-12-08 09:58:03
I really love the variation of Supermarine that plays right before the torpedo scene. I'm guessing it's either HEINKEL 11 O'CLOCK or FARRIER ATTACKS HEINKEL.

I love the album but I wish we got more. So many good varations.
At least, I wish they would release STRETCHER CARRY like they did with NO TIME FOR CAUTION.

badbu2017-12-08 10:03:09
Ahmad you're so right :-)
Maybe we get the FYC :D

Ahmad2017-12-08 11:17:14
After watching the scene again, I'm sure it's HEINKEL 11 O'CLOCK.

@badhu Unfortunately, WB has been sending the commercial albums to critics and voters for Dunkirk and BR2049, so I kinda lost hope on an FYC unless things change.

Goodness Hans, do you have to do this to us on almost every movie? :D

Iamtommie2018-03-06 15:37:59
Anyone know a chronological order

Scorefan reply Replies: 11 || 2018-03-05 05:03:44
And once again, another nomination to Hans and he didn't win.

Anonymous2018-03-05 05:17:30
Second time he beat HZ

Kingfannypack is the Milfcommander2018-03-05 05:48:43
I haven't even listened to The Shape Of Water, or much Alexandre Desplat other than Harry Potter. Does Desplats score deserve it?

Everan2018-03-05 06:42:38

Iamtommie2018-03-05 09:55:12
Desplat's win for The Shape of Water is as it should be. But Zimmer should have won for Interstellar. That score was way better than The Grand Budapest Hotel. In my opinion Interstellar was a wel done and inventive score. The Grand Budapest Hotel was in my opion a fun score but not an score for an oscar win

Ds2018-03-05 10:08:33
Desplat's score is worth a listen if you're into that nostalgia mood, otherwise I think it's a non-event. It's your typical french sounding Desplat score, it goes well enough with the movie but doesnt do anything special. The exact same score for a non-oscar-bait movie wouldnt even have been nominated, but that's how it usually works :-)

JBSO992018-03-05 10:30:48
I agree with Iamtommie. Desplat's win this year was deserved (I say this because I didn't like Dunkirk that much). His score works really well inside the film and also outside of it, although it may get a bit repetitive for some.

But Zimmer's Interstellar should have won that year because his score was almost perfect and I would say is one of his best since Inception. Grand Budapest Hotel was really funny and it's also great but not better than Interstellar. Also, Desplat's scores are usually of the likes of the academy so he has more possibilities to be nominated and win, while Zimmer, well, you know, he does not get that much recognition in awards (not that he needs it anyway)

Fares2018-03-05 11:58:58
It looks that Oscar's community didn't like Electronic soundtracks and orchestral soundtrack always Was the First Choice(Except Gravity of Course)

Ds2018-03-05 13:01:22
@Fares: Gravity was the only year in a loooooong time where I agreed with the Academy on Best Original Score.
There's also The Social Network which weirdly enough managed to beat Inception and How To Train Your Dragon, while being the most electronics-driven score of the pack...

mpolonest123 2018-03-05 13:20:10
To be fair, The Shape of Water really did deserve it this year. Alexandre is a composer who’s never wowed me, but the score in context of the film was excellent. And yes, Hans should have won for Interstellar.

Edmund Meinerts2018-03-06 09:27:22
"The exact same score for a non-oscar-bait movie wouldnt even have been nominated, but that's how it usually works :-)"

The sooner everyone realizes this about the Academy, the sooner everyone can go to not giving a shit about it, like me. Hell, Desplat could have written the single greatest masterpiece of music in the history of humanity, but if it was attached to a badly-received blockbuster it wouldn't have a whisper of a chance of being nominated.

Randy Watson2018-03-06 15:20:21
How the hell is a film about a mute woman who has sex with an amphibian creature an Oscar bait film??

Score Fan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-06 14:12:11
Are you sure calling The Shape of Water Oscar-Bait makes sense? Have you followed Del Toro's career? This is the culmination of a long list of achievements and it just sounds a bit silly to call his film some sort of play for Oscar as it continues a very idiosyncratic form of engagement with fantasy. Desplat's score is part of this world as it captures both whimsy but also intertextual references. They both very much deserve the accolades.

FaresTdkr reply Replies: 1 || 2018-03-05 20:13:08
Something I've learned from Hans says "Steven Price" all team work, everything done is for the movie nothing whatever music you compose for the movie is relevant he only care how it looks...Hans never care about prizes he only care about the movie. So Balfe(Identity thief) Shut the hell up.

Steven Price my Favorite composer worked with Hans on Batman Begins....

Olive2018-03-05 23:10:40
this comment was directed to "Balfe", the nickname adopted by a troll that disturbed the peace of that forum.

superultramegaa reply Replies: 3 || 2018-03-05 21:16:45
Oh my god, Balfe got erased from existence! I'm not even joking, if you go to the site history and the pages he's commented on it's all gone! Normally I'd say freedom of speech, but that guy was making everyone miserable. Good job Hybrid! (I'm assuming).

Anyway about the Oscars. Yeah, I want Hans to be a more reputable composer, but Desplat deserved it over Dunkirk this year. If it was Interstellar, I'd say give it to Hans, but this time, Desplat's score just had more substance.

Olive2018-03-05 22:07:04
I dont understand.

superultramegaa2018-03-05 22:56:21
Please be more specific.

Olive2018-03-05 23:08:34
I read your comment on the phone and I was confused. Now with more calm I realized that you refer to Balfe the nickname and not to the composer! Excuse me!

Alex hamilton reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-05 13:28:02
Desplat deserves academy award for shape of water and he earn it. In the past i loved zimmer scores like lion king or gladiator or last samurai and interstellar. But seriously after interstellar zimmer scores were nothing and i am truly disappointed whit his new scores and his wide choose of co composer which in my openion are useless !!! Iook at the criticizes openions for example which i read in wikipedia :
Christian Clemmensen of Filmtracks frequently criticizes Zimmer's constant use of ghostwriters and writing music using a "lowest common denominator" approach.

Kingfannypack is the Milfcommander reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-05 05:02:10
Desplat won again

john reply Replies: 24 || 2018-02-19 18:27:54
again alexander desplat beats hans zimmer and won bafta !! why ?! maybe it is time for hans to write his scores all by himself not his all by his ghostwriters , and come up with a whole new idea like his old scores for example lion king that even beat 2 great works of thomas newman in oscar !!!
good luck

isildur2018-02-19 20:02:36
LOL. You clearly have no idea how Hans always worked like this, collaborating with people. There are no ghostwriters when everybody is credited.

ThePhantasm2018-02-19 21:58:48
Dude Dunkirk soundtrack wasn't even good, i love Hans but it should not of gotten nominated. Desplats music is clearly superior to Hans. well at least in these particular movies. I think honestly hans should of won for Interstellar when they announced desplat who had two nominations.... i was like what? but that's just my opinion.

ThePhantasm2018-02-19 21:58:49
Dude Dunkirk soundtrack wasn't even good, i love Hans but it should not of gotten nominated. Desplats music is clearly superior to Hans. well at least in these particular movies. I think honestly hans should of won for Interstellar when they announced desplat who had two nominations.... i was like what? but that's just my opinion.

Max Potcats2018-02-19 22:21:55
I'm sure the academy would love to know that Hans souldn't been nominated. The Dunkirk Score is a masterpiece, but as I said if you have a problem with the score that's because you have a problem with the movie itself.

Hybrid Soldier2018-02-19 22:43:28
"Desplats music is clearly superior to Hans."

That's a very dangerous thing to say around here... :P

JBSO992018-02-19 23:16:55
Desplat's music is more of the taste of all of this awards. He's a usual nominee and winner and it isn't strange that he beats up Dunkirk.

I personally prefer The Shape of Water over Dunkirk, but I must agree that Zimmer should have won for Interstellar a few years ago (but then, Desplat was there with two nominations so it was difficult for him to win)

ThePhantasm2018-02-20 03:28:26
No what i meant by better is for these respective films, not in general his music for The shape of water is better than what hans did in Dunkirk. That's what i meant

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-20 09:24:27
Shape of Water is a nice score, but let's not pretend for one second that its BAFTA win, likely Oscar win, any of these big awards really, has *anything* to do with the music. It's mostly about what films those scores are attached to (and, to a degree, about who wrote them). After all, a composer could write a phenomenal masterpiece and it still won't win a damn thing if it's attached to, say, the third entry of a big blockbuster franchise about pirates.

Waymann2018-02-20 10:00:51
Still don't know why Giacchino's War for the Planet of the Apes wasn't even nominated. I know not everything was new material but that score is still superior to The Shape of Water which is a great score but not brilliant, just the same Desplat sauce like we are used to.
I don't like all nominees this year, their safe and so predictable. I mean The Last Jedi ? Nothing new in that score... even the Post by John Williams is 10x better than what he did with The Last Jedi. Why not nominate that score if you really want to nominated John Williams.

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-20 10:24:14
I thought War for the Planet of the Apes was pretty boring (and kind of weird at times, like what's with the Morricone-style traveling theme, it didn't feel like it fit the movie or the rest of the score at all), but a lot of people seem to love it, so I know I'm alone in that opinion. I just prefer Giacchino when he's having fun, not that simple Lost-like emotional stuff he does in every. single. score.

Last Jedi is a fine score, but yeah, probably the least new material in any Star Wars score. It does a pretty good job of playing around with the old material though, not (only) rehashing. I see it a bit like Zanelli's Pirates score this year in that regard. I'd be kind of mad if it won just because of all the much, much better Star Wars scores that haven't. :p Then again I'd say the same about Desplat and Shape of Water. If he has to be nominated for one of his scores this year, why not Valerian? That score's way more creative and varied than Shape of Water. Or Godzilla instead of Grand Budapest Hotel, the year that he did win? And since we were talking about Giacchino earlier, if anything he's done is worth nominating, then why not Jupiter Ascending? Oh right, because it's about the movie, never the music...

I feel like this much talk about non-RCP scores at this website is some sort of party foul, so my bad guys!

Fares2018-02-20 11:09:20
Giacchino's War for the Planet of the Apes main theme is reused from super Mario Game just put it in google and you will be convinced why he shouldn't been nominated at all!

ThePhantasm 2018-02-20 17:22:27
@Fares wanna hear a fun fact about giacchinos score for war for the planet of the apes he copied john williams Kylo ren theme note for note. Listen to Exodus Wounds and then go and listen to Kylos theme. Literally note for note doesn't even try to hide it.

Mephariel2018-02-20 18:30:44
I really like War for the Planet of the Apes. Giacchino did a great job creating a score unique to the movie with great atmosphere. I am actually tired of "Giacchino having fun."

MrZimmerFan2018-02-20 18:49:21
Agreed, War for the Planet of the Apes is much better than Homecoming. IMHO.

John2018-02-20 19:08:57
Isildur , so if hans for example won an academy award for his amazing spiderman 2 he should share it with 11 other composers beacause all of them had credit , really??!! ( magnificent six and about 5 additional music composers )

JBSO992018-02-20 19:33:08
Giacchino's score in War for the planet of the Apes I think is on my top three scores of 2017, but the Oscars, BAFTAS, Golden Globes and so on would never give an award to a score like that because they (almost) always prefer scores like The Shape of Water (which is good and works great in context but it's not as great)

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-20 22:34:28
I'll acknowledge that maybe War/Apes is a more distinctive and accomplished score than Homecoming. I just find a lot of it not very gratifying to listen to. The first fifteen minutes in particular is a really tough slog. Homecoming on the other hand is a standard typical Giacchino score, no surprises whatsoever, but it's more enjoyable for me (although the action music outside of a couple cues is really generic, I prefer the playful stuff in the first half of the score, and the main theme is pretty catchy and memorable).

Also, where the hell is Kylo Ren's theme in War/Apes?

ThePhantasm 2018-02-20 23:28:50
Dude go to youtube type in Exodus wounds from the war for the planet of the apes soundtrack then go and search for Kylo Ren theme it's the first video called kylo ren suite. Literally note for note he copied and pasted Williams kylo ren theme.

ThePhantasm 2018-02-20 23:32:36
Don't believe me? Here's Kylo rens theme listen from :30 and forward

Now here exodus wounds, from the beginning you can hear it but it becomes more apparent at 1:45 and onward

George2018-02-20 23:41:46
Oh wow you’re right those are very similar... almost too similar lol. I thought you were referring to that low brass motif for Kylo Ren amd also didn’t see where you got that from, but you definitely have a point.

ThePhantasm 2018-02-21 01:40:53
That's all i was trying to do is make a point lol i still can't believe I'm the only one who's noticed that.

J.S.B.2018-02-21 05:33:33
Well, to give also my 2 cents to this thread:

Zimmer has a high reputation at the acadamy owing to certain scores from the past...I fear he could even solely knock against an old cooking pot from is mum during the whole time... if he should do it for a Nolan-movie (but maybe for other Hollywood-blockbusters too) he will get his nomination for sure. Zimmer-Fans will call it "creative", "brave" and "innovative".

Would be interesting if "only" Wallfisch or Balfe could have got the credits for Dunkirk. If one of them would have the nomination now as well? Zimmer laughed already his head off with the "Preachers Wife" nomination and could be, with this one too.

Don´t get me wrong...I loved/love many Zimmer-scores from the past and I´m not just a hater, but the music he has done for the last 2-3 blockbusters were not the Zimmer-quality for me for which I had appreciated him once.

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-21 09:17:15
Okay, Phantasm, I can hear where you're coming from. But I'd argue that the tone and harmonies of the two pieces are so completely different that this is a coincidence.

Balfe2018-02-22 14:59:41
Dunkirk is a sound experiment and not a score. It is rather sad to see a fine composer like Benjamin Wallfisch deal with this nationalistic nonsense.

NTNB reply Replies: 13 || 2018-01-25 19:03:46
So, Zimmer’s scoring X-Men: Dark Phoenix. What?!

badbu 2018-01-25 19:31:22
YES! :-)

Olive2018-01-25 19:57:28
Apparently he does not keep his promises. Does he return to DC?

George2018-01-25 20:58:33
Wait seriously?! Wow definitely surprising (in the best way)

FaresTdkr2018-01-26 08:27:20
Well Hans never said that he will stop scoring superheroes movies ever he just did like to score two kind of batman movies in the same time I mean two themes for the same character in brief time.

Waymann2018-01-26 09:12:04
I don't get it, first he announces he will retire from all those awful superhero movies we get stuffed up with these days and now he returns already after 2 years to a mediocre superhero movie ? I don't get it.

Lynk2018-01-26 11:27:13
This one doesn't have any of those characters for whom he created a tune in the past. I am sure they pay good money too. Why shouldn't he? :-)

...2018-01-26 12:11:29
In fact, when Zimmer first announced his retirement, he acknowledged that it probably wouldn’t be permanent — as long as he could find a good script, he told Inverse. “Ron Howard actually said something very smart to me,” Zimmer recalled. “He said, ‘Don’t say you will never do a superhero movie again, wait for somebody to turn up with an amazing script for a superhero movie.’ And I suppose that’s what I’m saying: Can I please have the amazing script?”

Meta2018-01-26 14:16:57
Sorry but I dont know why this is being nominated...It's derivative repetitive nonsense. Does it service the film? Sure...110%. But as a score I dont really see what's so great about it...

Joshua2018-01-26 19:50:01
@Meta That makes no sense what you just said.

“Does it service the film? Sure...110%. But as a score I don't really see what's so great about it...“

A film score solely exists because of the film it’s attached too. Without it, their would be no music. It’s main and MOST important function is to serve the film and elevate it. You said the score serviced the film “110%” for you. So then doesn’t that make it a great SCORE? I think you meant to say, as music on it’s own, you don’t see what’s so great about it.

Ian2018-01-26 21:35:39
"I don't get it, first he announces he will retire from all those awful superhero movies we get stuffed up with these days and now he returns already after 2 years to a mediocre superhero movie ? I don't get it."

To put it simply: Hans often seems to care more about saying things that sound good than things that end up being true. Just look at his claim that he worked on the Nolan Batman films for twelve years; given The Dark Knight Rises came out in 2012, this would mean he was working on Batman Begins in 2001, even though Nolan wasn't even hired until 2003.

Max Potcats2018-01-26 23:29:53
Ian, don't leave logic aside, Hans said that Batman was 12 years of his life when he was talking about BvS back in 2016, I let you do the math (2016 - 2012 = 2004 :P ). Sure he finished the score in 2012 with Rises, but I think these kind of work doesn't leave you like that, he composed Aurora after he oficialy finished to work on TDKR, he was still working on for his tour and he was working on another batman movie so I think we can agree that he didn't cast his batman work with TDKR in 2012.

And I think he is tired to see the 'classical superhero movie' and really wants something fresh to work on. As the Wonder Woman character in BvS, maybe he found something cool in the Dark Ph&#339;nix that we don't found on ever superhero script and get inspired.

meta2018-01-27 02:26:17

Just because I said it services the movie 110%, which it does, does not mean that I will remember it or care to stick in it my playlist in the forseeable future. As a standalone listening experience? Nah...

nvictor2018-02-09 12:10:10
well you guys know Hans? "they made him do it" : )

Kingfannypack is the Milfcommander reply Replies: 6 || 2018-02-08 19:07:02
Still haven’t seen that expanded Dunkirk score I’ve heard we’ll get...

.... 2018-02-08 19:47:21
And who exactly is supposed to give this out? No wonder people who have these scores like to hold onto them....

Ahmad2018-02-08 21:14:49
LOL! I guess he meant an FYC release.
WB sent the commercial soundtrack album to voters so no complete score.
I don't even know how something like that would exist to be honest. Nolan and Zimmer weren't joking when they said that the score is one 106 minute long track.
But there is a cuesheet so I'm really confused.

mpolonest123 2018-02-08 21:20:04
@ahmad I don’t think they meant a literal 106-minute cue. It would be impossible to record. Going by the cue sheet it’s a bunch of shorter cues that bleed into each other to form the film score. Even then I think there are one or 2 pauses in the music, although I’ve only seen the movie twice so I’m not 100% on that.

Ahmad2018-02-08 23:16:05
@mpolonest123 It's true about the pauses. The score kinda gets divided into 4 tracks:
1. Beginning to Collins' rescue
2. Home to train
3. Variation 15
4. End Titles

The reason why I believe it's an actual long cue:
Nolan said in a Q&A that they lay tracked every sound in the score and they didn't cut tracks or cues but used automation graphs to bring sounds in and out, and when ever the picture changed the music had to change in other places drastically. Also, not to forget how crazy the tempo tracks are on this film. It's constantly changing.
Hans seems to be quite secretive about the process though.

mpolonest1232018-02-08 23:45:55
From some interviews it seems like Hans “mapped” out the score, most likely with a long demo. But yeah, there are still a lot of things they haven’t told us.

kek2018-02-09 04:20:20
you can still just put all of the tracks together like usual if you just plan for it, fading them into one track after everything is done

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