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So first impressions:<br><br>JP knocked this one out of the park! The whole score has this excellent swashbuckling vibe, which is surprisingly aggressive during the action sequences (entirely due to his trademark percussion).<br><br>The writing style is really interesting, it’s basically John Powell doing his usual style but with some Williams flourishes, especially during the softer cues. The Star Wars themes do return, but not as heavily as Rogue One. And of course the JW cue is great, although surprisingly structured more as an action cue as opposed to a concert suite.<br><br>And for some reason the Han theme sounds vaguely similar to Poe’s theme from Force Awakens.Let’s just say “Reminiscience Therapy”.... hold onto your seats! ;-)This score is awesome!! Powell did a great job at making a score that's differet than all the other SW scores, but still you know it's a SW score. He reprised Williams' theme brilliantly and I can't stop to listen to it!!!what about the music when batman makes it back to the cave and lex opens the case of kryptonite. cant find it in theseYeah I can't agree that Inception or Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring. Certainly not in structure, thematic development, etc. <br><br>What defined those scores is the vision behind them more so than the execution. In so many ways, that is opposite of The World's End. Interstellar is a brilliant score that managed to provide each scene with a simplistic tone, but one that captured the atmosphere behind the scenes perfectly, such as the unique use of the organ. Same with Inception with the guitars. <br><br>With a World's End, the vision is nothing special. It is a rock and roll twist to classic music. But the execution brings enormous power and gravitas to the movie.<br><br>I would sum it up by saying that in Interstellar and Inception, the creation of the music drives the movie's ideas while in At World's End, the movie drives the creation of the music.
Nazg&#251;l for Azog I will never forgive. It's not a Servant of Sauron theme, it's a Ringwraith theme, and Azog's not a Ringwraith, he's a goddam Orc, and that theme doesn't belong there, full stop. It was just put there because it sounds "epic" and would "pump up the action scene". Gondor Restored at the end is just as stupid. And the Dreaming of Bag End theme for Bilbo is indeed lovely, and would have been lovelier still if it actually appeared in the movie. Instead it just gets replaced by copy/pasted Hobbit music from LOTR instead because Peter Jackson desperately wants his audience to remember how good those movies were in lieu of the Hobbit ones being any good on their own. Needless to say it goes missing entirely from the second and third score...along with the Misty Mountains melody (the strongest theme of the first one). I still really like those scores overall but they got absolutely butchered in terms of their thematic usage in the films. Then again those movies were an absolute clusterfuck so I shouldn't be surprised.<br><br>WRT Harry Potter, the 3 note theme does work okay for Voldemort, except that there's already a longer, separate Voldemort theme in Philosopher's, one that I like even more, and which only gets used once in Chamber (when Riddle rearranges the letters). I can understand liking Chamber better than Philosopher when you compare the albums, but in terms of the complete scores there's no contest at all, Philosopher wins by a country mile because of Chamber's rehash issues (and there are some good cues missing from the album, such as the Troll and Forbidden Forest scenes).@Edmund<br>The thing with the Nolan scores (at least Interstellar/Inception) is that they are repetitive, in as much as being built heavily around the suites that I’m guessing they use to edit and temp the film. <br>And while the themes are simple I do think they are structured in a unique enough way which builds emotional resonance through the gradual increase in chords/volume/speed/etc. Even Dunkirk is a relatively simple score theme wise, but is so technically complex.<br><br>And personally I’ve never been in love with Inception. I admire it on a technical level, but outside of “Time” I find it to be a fairly cold score. Obviously what it was meant to do so not a complaint, more of a personal preference thing.You know, I actually like Chamber of Secrets much more than Philosopher's Stone. It has the best moments from that score with improved themes. (I actually like the 3 note motif for Voldemort better than it being used for the stone, it already sounded like the Sith theme from Star Wars so might as well go all the way with it.) It felt more tight, better paced, and had an overall more energetic feel to it.<br><br>The Hobbit, I'm not entirely sure where you're getting heartbreaking from. If you mean the state of its release I absolutely agree, if you're talking about its reprisals the only one I had any issue with was the Return of the King/Gondor Restored theme which had nothing to do with Thorin and Bilbo's relationship. <br><br>The Nazghul theme being used for Azog I thought was fine as he was a servant of Sauron in the movies, History of the Ring and Gollum's themes were used effectively, and the new thematic material for the first film, I thought was wonderful. The themes A Baggins of Bag-End and The Lonely Mountain song being used as a Fellowship type of theme are the greatest highlights for me.See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/
I'm trying to be objective* (sorry haha)@Anonymous Zimmer's best? Well... I'm trying to be subjective:<br>IMO The Thin Red Line remains the pinnacle of Hans' career from an artistic point of view. It's a turning point, though we've been used to this kind of writing since (so many scores have copied TTRL).<br><br>Inception and (especially) Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring as well. Their level of complexity is unmatched in Zimmer's discography.<br>Gladiator is another impressive score, as it combines some of the best action music, best drama and deepest emotions Hans has ever composed for a movie.<br><br>Seems like I'm quite objective here, as none of my favorites scores are on this list ! ;)Interesting you mention William Ross' role in Chamber of Secrets because I've never fully understood what his exact involvement was. Was he just an additional music composer? Or did he actually compose most of the score with John Williams only writing the suites? Just curious if you know.I mean, the thematic situation *is* a bit messy. You've got new themes by Powell, one new Williams theme adapted by Powell, and then existing Star Wars themes adapted by Powell. I agree the credits are a bit long-winded but I can't think of a more concise way to convey all that information.<br><br>What does bother me (and maybe this is my inner fanboy talking) is that it seems to downplay Powell's role a bit, listing him second and with the use of the word "adapted" which makes him feel a bit second fiddle. Remember how William Ross "adapted" Williams' music for Chamber of Secrets, by which was meant largely copying and pasting bits from Sorcerer's Stone? I have no doubt that Powell has done a far, far more substantial job here (and they do say "composed and adapted", to be fair). Then again, it's a Star Wars score, and of course they're going to put Williams' name front and center as much as possible no matter what.<br><br>This is all such nitpicking of the highest order :pHans for Star Wars ?<br><br><br>Never.<br><br><br>Ron probably asked him first and Hans probably was like "JOHN POWELL !!"
What would have happened if Ron Howard would have been the first choice to direct Solo? He would have chosen James Horner (if he wasn't dead) or try to convince Hans Zimmer to do the music. The only collaboration between Howard and maestro Williams was in the movie Far And Away.Poster in SpainA Star Wars score that sounds like a Powell score? I'm in.<br><br>From what I've heard of many people, the score is really great and apart from the Williams theme, I heard Powell also had a lot of great themes.<br><br>I cannot wait for it!Your source?Just saw the film, really fun and faced paced movie. The score is great, it has a solid main theme by John Williams (not as great as Rey theme though) but still memorable and john powell adapts this main theme in various variations throughout the film. Star Wars fan might be dissapointed by the score because this overall sounds like a typical Powell score which doesn’t really sound like a typical Star Wars movie. Still fans of Powell will love this new score.
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  1. Dead Men Tell No Tales (1:51)
    Geoff Zanelli
  2. Salazar (4:27)
    Geoff Zanelli
  3. No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel (3:59)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Phill Boucher, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)
  4. You Speak Of The Trident (1:58)
    Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher, Zak McNeil
  5. The Devil's Triangle (2:45)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)
  6. Shansa (3:12)
    Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)
  7. Kill The Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait (4:50)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Anthony B. Willis (Hans Zimmer)
  8. The Dying Gull (1:01)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey (Hans Zimmer)
  9. El Matador Del Mar (8:05)
    Geoff Zanelli, Anthony B. Willis (Hans Zimmer)
  10. Kill The Sparrow (6:16)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)
  11. She Needs The Sea (2:32)
    Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)
  12. The Brightest Star In The North (6:00)
    Geoff Zanelli
  13. I've Come With The Butcher's Bill (6:41)
    Geoff Zanelli, Steve Mazzaro (Hans Zimmer)
  14. The Power Of The Sea (4:07)
    Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher
  15. Treasure (5:43)
    Geoff Zanelli (Hans Zimmer)
  16. My Name Is Barbossa (5:34)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)
  17. Beyond My Beloved Horizon (2:41)
    Geoff Zanelli (Hans Zimmer)
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genius reply Replies: 16 || 2017-05-22 18:50:21
Looks like the film is shaping up to be a disappointment and to be honest the music we've heard so far doesn't sound great either. The new themes are simplistic and boring.

I hope I'm wrong but it's not looking great.


Max Potcats2017-05-22 19:31:44
mdr don't you want to... i don't know... see the movie and listend to the score before juge it ? i do.


The Pale King2017-05-22 19:34:23
I'd say the reception has been decidedly mixed so far; however, many reviewers I've trusted, some of whom aren't even terribly smitten with the series itself, have cited the return to the classic Pirates theme(s) / sound as a definite positive.

We'll have to see, I suppose ...


Olivia2017-05-22 21:39:58
Guy wait for release


...2017-05-22 21:48:06
I am looking forward to this score, although I did hear a couple of reviewers say the score was loud and boring (and composed by Zimmer ;))


Oscarilbo2017-05-22 22:24:25
Haven't heard anything of the score yet, but read a couple of twitter comments (specially from GoSoundtrack) and said Zanelli neiled perfectly, combining old themes with new themes.


Alyssa2017-05-23 00:12:01
Yup. Whatever's being said about the movie itself, the majority of the reviews I'm seeing seem to be agreement that the music score is a high point this time around.


rt2017-05-23 02:54:42
None of the reviews I've read mention the music.

34% on Rotten Tomatoes. Depp is Box Office poison as well.

No wonder Hans abandoned the ship.


Micah2017-05-23 04:36:33
To be fair, Pirates hasn't ever been a critical darling.


Waymann2017-05-23 10:59:02
The main thing i'm reading is that it's better than the fourth one and that's all I need to know. Of course it will never be like the original trilogy. Pirates 2 en 3 are my favorites and those have indeed mixed reviews. Tonight i'm finally going to see it.


Oscarilbo2017-05-23 15:46:52
The problem is... everyone praises the 1st one as a "perfect" swashbuclking adventure, and I don't really know why! I like the first one, but didn't love this franchise until the 2nd came out... that's when I fell in love with Pirates of the Caribbean.

Not only the cinematography, but the pace and the characters and the epicness and the music, all got better the second and third time around, for me. And yes, the screenplay too, again, for me. Love all the complexity.

The 4th one? I like it as much as the 1st one. So this reports of the new one be better than 2 and 3 (and 4 mainly) "but not as much as the 1st one" means that maybe I will love it.

As Micah says... pirates hasn't been a critical hit, but Jack Sparrow is now a pop culture icon nonetheless and as long as they keep delivering a wet fun ride, I'll keep giving them my money.


Edmund Meinerts2017-05-23 15:51:03
"as long as they keep delivering a wet fun ride, I'll keep giving them my money."

Sounds like a Yelp review of a brothel.


depp2017-05-23 16:29:18
Depp's performance in the clips they released is awful. He looks fat and he acts like a clown.


Oscarilbo2017-05-23 17:37:42
It amaze me how volatile we as an audience are.
First we love an actor for being good, new, and fresh. Then by that, that actor keeps doing what we love him for... then we get bored and then we hate him and doom him for being what he "has become"...

suddenly he is a "bad" actor, just for keeping doing what made him a good actor in the first place.

Yes, we are also part of why hollywood is what it is now. We all are part of the same game of shallowness.


genius2017-05-23 22:31:24
"Geoff Zanelli’s score is one of the most annoying of recent memory, but maybe it’s not the composer’s fault. For slow, dull action scenes he scores loud, propulsive music to make the audience think it’s seeing something that isn’t there. We get the horns of profundity and the strings of sincerity, not to mention the soaring choruses that tell us that grand things are really happening now, oh boy — and that these people are really feeling something — and aren’t we privileged to be swept away on this epic of joy and adventure? . . . And none of it is on the screen."

...

" In the midst of all the galloping, carousing and general crazy hysteria of the movie, the score by Geoff Zanelli acts as a metaphor for the movie itself, working so hard to inspire feeling, but sounding like clanging desperation instead."

Score getting hammered as well. =




GPrice2017-05-23 22:36:54
Genius, to be fair, the score for At World's End got some, not a lot, but some nasty reviews as well, and for similar "reasons" as well: too loud, too bombastic, saying more than what's happening on the screen, etc. I think we just need to listen to the score and watch the movie to see for ourselves... because if anyone is like me, I love all the scores and movies except for On Stanger Tides... regardless of the poor reviews. I've been wrong before though lol


Oscarilbo2017-05-23 22:59:25
well... yeah. that's the purpose of film music... complement the images, not just being there... I had read that review, but only that critic I've seen trash the music as well...

But don't go to far.. that's exactly the type of criticism is being thrown at Spielberg/Williams lately.. and if you don't believe me, just search for WarHorse reviews.

That folkes, are how 80s and 90s film music used to work.

TDS-Matt reply Replies: 3 || 2017-05-21 06:07:03
I'mg going to throw up a spoiler warning just in case, but I saw Pirates 5 for a second time tonight and have a pretty good idea where each of these themes fit, and I figured I'd let you know what you're in for.

Also, I'm not especially well-versed with specific cue titles -- I'm an idiot and always associate the Will and Elizabeth kiss from Curse of the Black Pearl with He's a Pirate instead of One Last Shot, etc. -- so I'll try to describe as best I can.

1. Dead Men Tell No Tales

A fair bit of One Day, with a little bit of Dutchman music as well.

2. Salazar

Salazar's new theme, which feels a little bit hard rock and modern.

3. No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel

Classic Pirates action theme.

4. You Speak Of The Trident

I can't remember specific cues from this section of the movie, though I imagine Carina's theme makes an appearance.

5. The Devil's Triangle

Dark, Salazar's theme.

6. Shansa

This is Barbossa visiting the witch. I don't remember any returning themes here.

7. Kill the Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait

A mix of that classic Pirates action theme, One Day, and a brief Hoist the Colours appearance.

8. The Dying Gull

Hoist the Colours

9. El Matador Del Mar

More Salazar theme.

10. Kill The Sparrow

This is the flashback to Jack besting Salazar, so there's some of the latter's theme and bit of Jack to sell his origin story.

11. She Needs The Sea

This is all Black Pearl.

12. The Brightest Star In The North

Carina's theme!

13. I've Come With The Butcher's Bill

Action cues as Salazar attacks Jack and company at night.

14. The Power Of The Sea

More action cues.

15. Treasure

There's a slower, sadder version of the music that plays when Beckett is killed in At World's End. (I really like this part of the movie, and the score really works.)

16. My Name Is Barbossa

Spoilers :) Depending on the track split, One Day could pop up here...

17. Beyond My Beloved Horizon

...or here, along with He's a Pirate.


Eric2017-05-21 20:38:30
Does Barbossa have his own theme in the movie and if he does is it on any of the soundtracks from the first four movies.


Alyssa2017-05-22 04:52:17
Judging by the last minute or so of the premiere livestream, I'm glad that they've gone back to the tradition of having 'He's A Pirate' launching the end credits before segueing into what sounds like one of the brand new themes specific to Pirates 5. It's a shame that 'On Stranger Tides' cheated somewhat on this front by simply regurgitating Jack's heroic and action themes for their segue.


TDS-Matt2017-05-23 05:36:11
I didn't notice Barbossa having his own theme.

(I also goofed a little bit - pretty sure El Matador Del Mar is the flashback with Salazar and Jack, and Kill the Sparrow is the bit with zombie sharks.)

Iamtommie reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-22 08:40:02
If you go to the Pirates Of The Caribbean Facebookpage, there is a livestream of the premiere on the Hollywood Boulevard. At 25:15, 39:53 & 49:10 you can hear some things of the new soundtrack!


Joseph Solano2017-05-23 01:19:46
25:15 has Hoist the Colors! I'm crying holy shit!

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-22 07:03:58
Here is a new b-roll video. At 13:25 sec footage from the recordings session can be seen. You hear really shorts bits of the soundtrack. I think the new music you can hear is Carina's theme.
https://youtu.be/SuHRyxgUs04

retlaw1971 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-21 12:50:30
anyone familiar with this: https://youtu.be/R1K-msoUEEU


Waymann2017-05-21 17:06:47
Fake, you can hear the soundtrack from The Great Wall mixed pieces from the trailers and bad computer generated covers of the original themes.

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2017-05-20 15:27:39
Hello Pirates fans I have a question what is Captain Barbossa's theme song I have been trying to figure that out for a long time he is the only main character of the franchise that doesn't have a theme Suite but what exactly is his theme please if you have any idea respond.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-20 16:14:48
Mmmmh the closest thing to a theme he has is the Blake Neely theme wrote for his "death" scene in POTC 1. It's reused at the end of POTC 2 just before he gets back, and is also used in POTC 3 during "Jiggy Kraken" during the Jack / Barbossa deep talk.

Then it's used for... something else entirely in the 4th and the East India Trading Company theme became his theme... lol


Lynk2017-05-20 16:35:55
Given how he "changes colors" and "shifts allegiance" during the franchise it is somewhat difficult to pinpoint a theme for Barbossa. The closest thing I have heard that may represent a theme of motif for this character is that dark "Black Pearl" tune which appears mostly for the cursed pirates during the first movie. That tune makes an appearance again towards the end of the fourth film when Barbossa takes over the QMR ship too, hence the connection I made. Of course, I'd doubt if this tune was originally written with this character in mind back in the first film.

Now shifting attention to this album here, I actually think that track 16 above could represent music for something different than what most have come to deduce - especially given the materials that's been leaked to the web from the earlier drafts of the script. I sure do want a track or concert suite dedicated to Barbossa, though. The most iconic character in the series after Sparrow deserves one!


Anonymous2017-05-20 18:22:27
@Hybrid Solider do you mean Underwater March? The song when Barbossa dies if it is then that might be his theme song because on the Dead Mans Chest Soundtrack Wikipedia page it says for the song Tia Dalma that Barbossa's supposed theme song he has is on that track and the Underwater March is on the track.@Lynk yes I also wish Barbossa had a Suite Lourne Balfe one of the many composers of the Pirates franchise actually made a theme for Barbossa but Jerry Brucheimer didn't like it so it wasn't put in the movie.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-21 11:07:12
Yes that's it. I'm confused, I haven't heard the OST program in many years ! lol

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-20 01:22:40
Jack being captured. That classic Sparrow theme. bhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-my8mGFoFy0

Henry meets Jack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPsw-b_FbfU

Gprice reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-20 00:52:51
Here's a link to the recorded Facebook livestream which has a lot of the new music in it:

https://www.facebook.com/PiratesoftheCaribbean/videos/101552 31329688830/

JBSO99 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-05-17 19:13:34
Could somebody help me to create a playlist with all the suites from the different themes that has been released?
I already have the Jack Sparrow suite, Davy Jones theme, the Kraken theme, Mermaids theme, Balckbeard theme, Hoist the Colours suite and I could use the track Marry mMe as the suite of the Will and Elizabeth theme.
What other themes or suites I am missing? Thanks in advance for the help!


Iamtommie2017-05-17 19:43:43
A view:
He's A Pirates (Main Theme)
Tia Dalma / Calypso (Tia Dalma's/Calypso's Theme)
Lord Cutler Beckett (Beckett's Theme)
Just Good Business (British Theme)
Angelica (Angelica's Theme)
On Stranger Tides (On Stranger Tides/Spanish Theme)


Max Potcats2017-05-17 20:55:08
There is also more suites in the completes scores that you can find on YT :

-Pirates of the Caribbean Theme (Original Demo)
-Pirates, Day One, 4:56 AM (Album Suite)

-Jack's Theme Bare Bones (Piano Demo)
-The Heart of Davy Jones (Album Suite)

-Beckett's Theme (Original Demo)
-The Pirate Lord of Singapore (Album Suite)
-Marry Me (Album Suite)
-Hoist the Colours (Album Suite)

and a lot of suite of potc OnStTi
I think i didn't forgot some..


JBSO992017-05-18 15:34:24
Okay, thanks. More or less I think this is a collection of about 20 tracks so it's not bad at all. Let's hope this new album has some new suites, I suppose for Carina, Barbossa, Salazar or Henry. Cannot wait to hear the new score!


Joseph Solano2017-05-19 00:25:18
For On Stranger Tides, there are suites for Blackbeard, Angelica, and the Mermaids.


Captain Jack Sparrow2017-05-20 00:34:04
The Suites of the Pirates Of The Caribbean Franchise
•He's A Pirate-Curse Of The Black Pearl Soundtrack
•Jack Sparrow-Dead Mans Chest Soundtrack
•Davy Jones-Dead Mans Chest Soundtrack
•The Kraken-Dead Mans Chest Soundtrack
•Up Is Down-At Worlds End Soundtrack
•Blackbeard-On Stranger Tides Soundtrack
•Angelica-On Stranger Tides Soundtrack
•Mermaids-On Stranger Tides Soundtrack
• Marry Me-At Worlds End Complete Score
•Lord Cutler Beckett-At Worlds End Complete Score

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 5 || 2017-05-19 21:14:19
I hope they release the credits music. Except for Dead Man's Chest they always do.


Medigo2017-05-19 21:30:43
Eh, creditmusic can always be ripped from DVDs and such.
Wouldnt be a big loss.


Max Potcats2017-05-19 22:43:09
and the new theme from DMC credit was also in the Jack Sparrow Suite so...


iamtommie2017-05-19 23:00:31
I think Dead Men Tell No Tales is the End Credits beginning


Max Potcats2017-05-19 23:34:33
I think this rather can be the ouverture music, like "On Stranger Tides" of potc4


Captain Jack Sparrow 2017-05-20 00:22:56
I believe either My Name Is Barbossa has the end credits or Beyond My Beloved Horizon thought that could be one of the 3 suites that are suppose to be on the score.

Paul reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-19 23:23:08
Don't we get some extracts

Jean-Pierre reply Replies: 7 || 2017-05-17 11:04:37
Time to add the tracklist:

1. Dead Men Tell No Tales
2. Slazar
3. No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel
4. You Speak of the Trident
5. The Devil's Triangle
6. Shansa
7. Kill the Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait
8. The Dying Gull
9. El Matador Del Mar
10. Kill the Sparrow
11. She Needs the Sea
12. The Brightest Star in the North
13. I've Come With the Butcher's Bill
14. The Power of the Sea
15. Treasure
16. My Name Is Barbossa
17. Beyond My Beloved Horizon

Source: jpc.de


Jean-Pierre2017-05-17 11:06:33
*2. Salazar

17 tracks. No remixes! :)


Waymann2017-05-17 12:22:08
I also found the runtime for these tracks with a total runtime of 71 minutes 42 seconds.
Looking good, lot's of long tracks! Of course this wil not include all music but 71 minutes of score from a 2 hour movie should be giving a good representation of the score. As long as it sounds like in the film I'll be happy.

1. Dead Men Tell No Tales - 01:51
2. Salazar - 4:27
3. No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel - 03:59
4. You Speak of the Trident - 01:58
5. The Devil's Triangle - 02:45
6. Shansa - 03:12
7. Kill the Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait - 04:50
8. The Dying Gull - 01:01
9. El Matador Del Mar - 08:05
10. Kill the Sparrow - 06:16
11. She Needs the Sea - 02:32
12. The Brightest Star in the North - 06:00
13. I've Come With the Butcher's Bill - 06:41
14. The Power of the Sea - 04:07
15. Treasure - 05:43
16. My Name Is Barbossa - 05:34
17. Beyond My Beloved Horizon - 2:41



Micah2017-05-17 18:36:43
Where did you guys find this?

Also, super excited about tracks 12 and 16. I need myself a Barbossa/Carina suite.


Eric2017-05-17 22:44:59
Is this the real team listing?


Waymann2017-05-17 22:52:51
@ Found this on a german site in an official press article of the score. Filmmusicreporter.com also confirmed this tracklist with the same press article.


Medigo2017-05-17 23:44:52
I am hoping for less suites and more in-movie music myself


Michael2017-05-19 07:59:13
Yo-ho!

Micah reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-19 07:25:49
Well, the score below me may be fake, but you can hear several clips of the upcoming OST from the Facebook livestream tonight, including Salazar's theme and the Hoist The Colors rendition.

Rum reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-19 04:21:51
Just watched the premiere tonight and heard a lot of the music for the film. Sounds great!!!:). Sounds like pirates and very well done. Can't wait to hear the rest of the soundtrack.

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 2 || 2017-05-18 03:26:49
I hope either "The Brightest Star in the North" and "My Name is Barbossa" are themes for Carina and Barbossa. I'm convinced Carina is Barbossa's daughter.


TDS-Matt2017-05-18 05:17:50
"The Brightest Star in the North" absolutely refers to Carina. "My Name Is Barbossa" would be more of a spoiler... ;)


Joseph Solano2017-05-19 00:19:23
@TDS-Matt Now I'm even more excited! I have a feeling I'm gonna love Carina. Not just because of her looks, boobs, and accent, but she seems like a welcoming addition to the cast and deserves an amazing theme to come with her.

ZimmerFaninItaly reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-18 14:58:51
Hi guys!
Does anyone know who worked on the "He's a pirate" theme variation used in the first trailer? It sounds awesome!


Joseph Solano2017-05-19 00:16:38
Maybe with the complete score.

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-18 02:14:42
Nice tracklist, lengths and total time.

Eric reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-18 00:32:18
Yes after waiting all this time! Suites music from the movie No Remixes! I can't wait to hear the soundtrack arleady have a guess on what Tracks might have music from the first 4 films. Geoff Zanelli is going to become a legend with this score!

Waymann reply Replies: 7 || 2017-05-16 08:49:57
I follow someone on twitter who mostly tweets about filmscores and he saw the new film and wrote down his thoughts on the score in an article. It's a nice insight for what we can expect.

I can't post a link here but his twitter account is called Go Soundtracks and you will be able to find the link in his feed.


Waymann2017-05-16 09:08:40
On a short note: old theme's like the love theme from AWE is used for Henry, Hoist the Colors gets a short rendition, some of At Wit's End is used in the climax and in the end One Last Shot makes it's appearance. There's a new theme for Salazar, and a theme for his crew which sounds like the theme's for Barbossa. Also a new "adventure" theme" in the style of Jack's Theme. No Up is Down.


Micah2017-05-16 18:30:00
Awesome! Just checked it out.

I just want that minute rendition of Hoist The Colors to be on the OST. It's battle motif is one of the best themes that never officially made a soundtrack. I'd kill the hear the heroic version of that, as well as Henry's theme on this OST.


Iamtommie2017-05-16 19:16:50
I really hooe it becomes a big score. I hope the OST is like 70 - 90 minutes, with themes en than exact songs from the movie. Than with al the things written on Go Soundtracks would be a fantastic soundtrack!


temp2017-05-17 01:51:02
From his description it sounds like it was heavily temped and a lot of old music was recycled.

Another On Stranger Tides.


Eric2017-05-17 02:36:22
@Waymann questions Does Barbossa finally get his own theme? Is Davy Jones theme used for Will?Does Becketts theme return?


TDS-Matt2017-05-17 03:54:37
It's very temp-heavy, but unlike On Stranger Tides, the themes actually fit the scenes they're attached to. One Day pops up often for Henry (and Will), Hoist the Colors plays during a "triumphant" moment involving a ship, etc. There's never a moment like Davy Jones' or Beckett's themes playing for Blackbeard.


Waymann2017-05-17 08:38:20
@Eric I haven't seen the film yet so I don't know more than I read on that article.

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-17 04:02:56
On Go Soundtracks, he mentions a theme for stars. I hope that's Carina's Theme.


Waymann2017-05-17 08:32:38
Probably will be. I think it will be something like the mermaid's theme you can hear throughout On Stranger Tides to give the movie it's own musical voice.

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 11 || 2017-05-13 17:43:04
Ok, I can't take it anymore. Until the track listing (or the actual soundtrack comes out) I'm gonna post my own track listing and see how right I'll be.


1. 10 Years Ago
2. Cursed
3. The Dead Have Taken Command of the Sea
4. Not Men, Pirates
5. Carina
6. In the Cells
7. A Terrible Way to Live
8. Salazar
9. Trapped
10. Waiting
11. The Trident
12. Pirates' Life
13. Father and Son
14. End Credits

Also, NO REMIXES!


Max Potcats2017-05-13 19:11:26
i wish also no remixes ^^


Eric2017-05-13 21:04:51
Might I add a track called Barbossa or Barbossa Suite I hope in the actual soundtrack They add Davy Jones theme and give Barbossa his own Suite


Edmund Meinerts2017-05-13 21:44:08
I wonder how they'll handle the Davy Jones theme. Its appearance in On Stranger Tides (the London chase) was a big facepalm moment for me since Jones had nothing whatsoever to do with that scene, but for this movie, with Bloom coming back? Well, there's a great moment in At World's End that's a combination of the Davy Jones locket music with the love theme (at 3:00 of "Davy's Tear" or 4:44 of "At Wit's End" from the OST), which would honestly make a perfect representation of Will for this film since he's now performing the duties that Jones neglected.

Not sure what they'd put in a Barbossa Suite considering he never really did get his own theme. And no, I'm NOT counting them using the Cutler Beckett stuff for him in 4...seriously screw that score lol :p


Macejko2017-05-13 21:44:52
Why the fuck would anybody be so worked up about a tracklist?


Joseph Solano2017-05-14 01:25:16
@Eric I know! And Barbossa technically has 2 themes.


Joseph Solano2017-05-14 01:26:35
@Macejko Because we have nothing else to do. :p


Daniel2017-05-14 17:01:34
"Father and Son"? You saw Gurdians of the Galaxy, didn't you?


Eric2017-05-14 20:58:12
Yes @Joseph Solano that is true he does have two themes with the Curse of the Black Pearl one and the one from On Stranger Tides but he is the only Of the main characters that doesn't have a actual theme Suite I just wish we could finally get one.And I decide I would throw my hat in the ring and sorta create my own fans made Track listing.(Possible Spoiler Warning)

1.Dead Men Tell No Tales
2.Salazar
3.Carina Smythe
4.Jack at the Gallows
5.Barbossa Sernade
6.A Dark Alliance
7.Salazas Tale
8.Shark Attack
9.The Pearl Returns
10.The Trident Will Be Mine
11.Jack Duels Salazar
12.Reunited
13.A Pirates Life
7.


Eric2017-05-14 20:58:50
Yes @Joseph Solano that is true he does have two themes with the Curse of the Black Pearl one and the one from On Stranger Tides but he is the only Of the main characters that doesn't have a actual theme Suite I just wish we could finally get one.And I decide I would throw my hat in the ring and sorta create my own fans made Track listing.(Possible Spoiler Warning)

1.Dead Men Tell No Tales
2.Salazar
3.Carina Smythe
4.Jack at the Gallows
5.Barbossa Sernade
6.A Dark Alliance
7.Salazas Tale
8.Shark Attack
9.The Pearl Returns
10.The Trident Will Be Mine
11.Jack Duels Salazar
12.Reunited
13.A Pirates Life
7.


Waymann2017-05-15 09:59:03
Still can't get over that ridiculous title change to Salazar's Revenge... Hopelijk the score and title card in the movie will be say Dead Men Tell No Tales in Europe.


Eric2017-05-16 03:58:24
@waymann on the soundtrack it says Dead Men Tell No Tal s everywhere I belive

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-15 22:58:32
I'm surprised there isn't a "themes by Hans Zimmer" credit anywhere.

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-14 17:16:05
@Daniel Sadly no.

Agent reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-11 22:17:30
Any news on the tracklist?


Anonymous2017-05-12 04:29:02
Yes. Are you ready? Here it is: there is no news.

Eric reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-06 19:58:07
If you want to hear the score here it is https://youtu.be/OGWqw3JWNy8
It has Jack theme and some of I Don't Think Now Is The Best Time for Henry and it seems Carina has her own little theme hopefully this scene is on the Soundtrack.


Joseph Solano2017-05-07 17:38:20
The sound is a little eh, but it sounds very Pirates.

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 3 || 2017-05-02 00:20:58
I found this video. It sounds very much like Zimmer. I'm hyped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj3hK-pAfNc


Max Potcats2017-05-02 10:32:57
sounds really great :D


Eric2017-05-03 02:06:15
What is the name of the video?


Joseph Solano2017-05-06 18:46:41
@Eric POTC5 On the set by Joachim Ronning (logo&music)

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-02 00:08:02
All I want from this score is a bunch of new themes and also uses old themes too. Kinda like At World's End. I liked the score for On Stranger Tides, but it was kinda unoriginal. I want themes for Henry, Katrina, Salazar, and other stuff, but I want the themes for Jack, Barbossa, and Will to return.


Eric2017-05-03 02:06:44
Jack's theme is in it.

Scorefan reply Replies: 2 || 2017-05-01 21:02:01
Here in Mexico, yesterday i went to see Guardians Of the Galaxy and before it started, Javier Bardem showed up a little scene from Pirates 5. The scene was incredible and recovers the spirit from the first film. The music used in that scene it's a variation for the He's a pirate theme but sounds amazing and wonderful and include choirs. I believe Geoff's score will sound incredible.


Dimitris Krommidas2017-05-01 21:22:11
Great!


Micah2017-05-01 21:45:33
Is that the scene at the gallows? It was leaked on Reddit.

Eric Burke reply Replies: 3 || 2017-03-12 20:19:26
I wonder if some of the themes from the fist four Pirates movies will be there?


Ds2017-03-12 20:53:22
Of course! The film is not produced by Marvel Studios ;-)


JBSO992017-03-13 19:01:36
Of course. The main theme of the end credits need sto be there. If not, it won't be a pirates movie ;) Also I hope the theme of Will and Elizabeth to return and obviously the Jack Sparrow theme


Eric2017-04-30 19:25:55
I found a Tralier of the movie and it had a sneak preview of the movie in it and Jack's theme is in the movie so I'm not worried about them just recreating the whole franchise with a reboot but I hope they add some songs with the old themes on the actual Soundtrack

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