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I actually have a question. How accurate were the slate numbers on this leak?<br><br>P3 1m01v2 Hoist the Colours (1:31)<br>P3 1m02v6 Arrive in Singapore (2:18)<br>P3 1m03Av1 East India Trading Company (0:27)<br>P3 1m03Bv3 Getting Ready (1:01)<br>P3 1m05 7v25 Entering the Bath House (2:55)<br>P3 1m08v7 Steam Room (0:42)<br>P3 1m09Av6 Sao Feng Negotiation (5:14)<br>P3 1m09Bv10 Battle with the Brits (2:21)<br>P3 2m10v12 Battle Continues - Will Makes Deal (1:37)<br>P3 2m11v2 Crew Embarks (1:48)<br>P3 2m12v9 Trying to Get Lost (5:06)<br>P3 2m13Av10 Davy Jones Command (4:05)<br>P3 2m13Bv8 Over the Top (2:14)<br>P3 2m15v6 Multiple Jacks (7:31)<br>P3 3m16v11 Captain Jack Sparrow (1:19)<br>P3 3m16Av1 Crabs (0:22)<br>P3 3m17v6 Rescue Jack (2:25)<br>P3 3m18v2 Who's Captain - Below Deck (2:09)<br>P3 3m19v3 Souls at Sea (4:22)<br>P3 3m20Av4 Dreadlock Jack (2:03)<br>P3 3m20Bv14 The Green Flash (3:53)<br>P3 4m20Cv1 We're Back - Wet Powder (1:28)<br>P3 4m21v41 Jiggy Kraken (4:06)<br>P3 4m22v2 Jack & Beckett (8:36)<br>P3 4m22v3 Jack & Beckett (Alt.) (6:20)<br>P3 4m23v8 Seduction (2:36)<br>P3 4m24v3 Sao Feng's Death (1:36)<br>P3 4m24v3.6 Sao Feng's Death (Alt.) (1:36)<br>P3 5m25v4 Chinese Captured by Brits (0:44)<br>P3 5m26v13 Bootstraps - Elizabeth Locker (2:28)<br>P3 5m27v5 Jack Catches Will (1:02)<br>P3 5m28v9 Escape - Norrington Dies (4:16)<br>P3 5m29Av30 Mrs. Fish (1:21)<br>P3 5m29Bpt1v32 Davy Jones Tells Calypso's Story (1:29)<br>P3 5m29Bpt2v41 Shipwreck Cove (0:56)<br>P3 5m29Bpt2Altv36.1 Shipwreck Cove (Alt.) (0:57)<br>P3 5m29Bpt2Altv36 Shipwreck Cove (Alt 2) (0:57)<br>P3 6m30v5 Brethren Court Begins (1:23)<br>P3 6m31v4 Calypso Must Be Released (1:07)<br>P3 6m32v1 Davy Jones Visits Tia Dalma (3:57)<br>P3 6m33v5 Cuttlefish (1:19)<br>P3 6m34v5 Teague & The Code (1:37)<br>P3 6m36v1 King Elizabeth (1:33)<br>P3 6m37v6 Parlay (2:14)<br>P3 6m37Altv7 Parlay (Alt.) (2:15)<br>P3 6m38v1 Trading Places (2:11)<br>P3 6m39Av1 Flying Dutchman Prison (0:27)<br>P3 6m39v2 Immortality (0:47)<br>P3 7m40v2 Calypso on Deck (0:50)<br>P3 7m41v26 Releasing Calypso (5:02)<br>P3 7m42v1 Hoist the Colours Declaration (2:17)<br>P3 7m42Altv3 Hoist the Colours Declaration (Alt.) (2:13)<br>P3 7m43Av2 Maelstrom Pt. 1 (5:32)<br>P3 7m43BEndFixv5 Getting the Chest (1:30)<br>P3 7m43Bv2 Getting the Chest (Alt.) (1:24)<br>P3 7m43InsAv1 A Lost Bird (1:21)<br>P3 8m44Av11 The Wedding (3:12)<br>P3 8m44Aaltv12 The Wedding (Alt.) (3:13)<br>P3 8m44Bv5 Mealstrom Pt. 2 (5:17)<br>P3 8m44Baltv8 Maelstrom Pt. 2 (Alt.) (5:07)<br>P3 8m44Cv12 Davy Death (2:56)<br>P3 8m44D Liftoff (2:24)<br>P3 8m44ev11 Beckett Death (5:08)<br>P3 8m44EAltv12 Beckett Death (Alt.) (5:08)<br>P3 8m44fv5 Celebration (1:45)<br>P3 9m46v5 One Day (2:42)<br>P3 9m47v6 The Ship is Gone (1:19)<br>P3 9m48v6 The Fountain of Youth (1:32)<br>P3 9m49Av1 End Titles A (1:17)<br>P3 9m49Bv1 End Titles B (2:17)<br>P3 9m51v1 10 Years Later (0:54)<br><br>One thing I noticed is that Getting the Chest and A Lost Bird (Maelstrom Part 1B and Maelstrom Part 2 on your track listing) were switched. And based on the lengths, and comparing them to the track listing here, I'm also confused as to whether or not the alternates on this leak were labelled correctly, or if an alternate was falsely presented as an original take, and vice-versa. I would very much appreciate some help here, because this has been driving me crazy for days!Your Music is the most inspiring art in the past twenty years. i wanna thank you so much for doing this an i hope you keep doing it...Thank you.WW84 was completed a while back. Dune, no he's in the middle of it. Last I checked a couple of weeks ago Top Gun was not finished. SpongeBob didn't get the chance to get recorded...Just curious, are his WW84, Dune and Top Gun scores already recorded?
A WAY OF LIFE = 4M20 SEASONS PASS (EDITED) + 6M34 WEAR THIS ARMOR (EDITED) + 3M17 BEATING IN THE RAIN
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<br>SPECTRES IN THE FOG = 2M13 CAPTURED (ALT) + 2M11/12 SAMURAI WILL FIND US/BATTLE IN THE FOG (EDITED)
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<br>TAKEN = 6M32/33 DON'T GO/PREPARE FOR BATTLE
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<br>A HARD TEACHER = 3M18 INTRIGUING PEOPLE (EDITED) + 3M16 ALGREN EXPLORES VILLAGE
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<br>TO KNOW MY ENEMY = 7M39B DEATH & CARNAGE + 5M29B ONE MIND PT2 (EDITED) + 5M31C NOBUTADA'S DEATH (EDITED)
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<br>IDYLL'S END = 4M24 EVERY SOLDIER HAS NIGHTMARES/FAREWELL/SAFE PASSAGE (EDITED)
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<br>SAFE PASSAGE = 5M27 HAIRCUT + 5M28 I REFUSE TO GIVE UP MY SWORD + 3M19 TOO MANY MIND
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<br>RONIN = 1M08 BOOT CAMP (EDITED) + 6M36 THEY WON'T SURRENDER (EDITED)
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<br>RED WARRIOR = 6M35 TO THE BATTLEFIELD (EDITED) + 7M38/39 ARCHERS/ON THE BATTLEFIELD (EDITED)
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<br>THE WAY OF THE SWORD = 7M40A THE FINAL CHARGE (EDITED) + 7M40B/C SAMURAI DIE BY GATLING GUN/KATSUMOTO'S DEATH
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<br>A SMALL MEASURE OF PEACE = 7M41 SMALL MEASURE OF PEACE
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<br>THE FINAL CHARGE = 7M40A THE FINAL CHARGECan’t believe another typical comment by Jack Afrogarrix was able to trigger a whole debate... The corona effect, I guess...Hans is sheltered at home (but fear not he has a home studio that looks like a mini version of his RCP room haha, so he keeps busy as always). Still working hard.<br><br>Plans for his films are a little screwed since everything is postponed and what is not recorded cannot be (I'm thinking SpongeBob) but it's Hans, he can adapt and will find solutions ! :)I hope he is shelled up writing music. <br><br>Can he even commission an orchestra at all?Does anyone know how is Hans doing in all this situation ? I mean the pandemic.
Anyone know what cues make up the OST for this? Hybrid?There's no CD cos this is bootleg.<br>It's on YouTube tho;Where can I find this CD or how can I listen to it?Hi Sir Zimmer,<br><br>I am an self taught composer and a producer, I love your work,<br>You are my inspiration,I have made various<br>Original soundtrack inspired by your<br>Works<br>Am linking to one of my latest work<br>https://youtu.be/TEqXpSvlxsc<br><br>I would love to work on TV's or movie's music scores.<br><br>I hope you would like.<br><br>-Kenez Nonwar<br>@superultramegaa:<br><br>Yeah, now is about to be positive, but that comment is a bit to far not just for the circunstances, also because, we talk about soundtracks and comment, not other things.<br><br>Leave the covid19, for other things, ok?
The comment by Jack Afrogarrix doesn't make sense. Spenser Confidential and Bloodshot are the ONLY Jablonsky soundtracks in 2020 so far. "My two favourite Jablonsky soundtracks of 2020" would only make sense, if there would be already more released than these two by Jablonsky in 2020.Do you know where can i find the song death of shrike???@Jack Afrogarrix	<br><br>Edmund is being positive. He's finding humor in the world's current situation instead of being negative, sensitive, and depressed about it. We're all trying to stay positive na enjoy film scores right now. <br><br>Just because Edmund is doing it in a way you don't like doesn't mean he's being negative. Lighten up guys, it was a joke.I agree with MrZimmerFan, the comment that edmund did was too much and i did comment about the composer's film score in 2020. I didn't say it like that. Look i just an young guy who likes soundtracks of films very much and i know there is an pandemic in the world and i trying to be positive while this is happening and i hear film music because i like to hear music of every film composers.Edmund, that comment is bit too much, don't you think?
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - Dead Men Tell No Tales
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 71'42
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  1. Dead Men Tell No Tales (1:51)
    Geoff Zanelli
  2. Salazar (4:27)
    Geoff Zanelli
  3. No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel (3:59)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Phill Boucher, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)
  4. You Speak Of The Trident (1:58)
    Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher, Zak McNeil
  5. The Devil's Triangle (2:45)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)
  6. Shansa (3:12)
    Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)
  7. Kill The Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait (4:50)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Anthony B. Willis (Hans Zimmer)
  8. The Dying Gull (1:01)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey (Hans Zimmer)
  9. El Matador Del Mar (8:05)
    Geoff Zanelli, Anthony B. Willis (Hans Zimmer)
  10. Kill The Sparrow (6:16)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)
  11. She Needs The Sea (2:32)
    Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)
  12. The Brightest Star In The North (6:00)
    Geoff Zanelli
  13. I've Come With The Butcher's Bill (6:41)
    Geoff Zanelli, Steve Mazzaro (Hans Zimmer)
  14. The Power Of The Sea (4:07)
    Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher
  15. Treasure (5:43)
    Geoff Zanelli (Hans Zimmer)
  16. My Name Is Barbossa (5:34)
    Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)
  17. Beyond My Beloved Horizon (2:41)
    Geoff Zanelli (Hans Zimmer)
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nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2019-11-16 20:22:13
truly amazing score! zanelli shows here that he mastered the DNA of the pirates music. would love to see him talk about this series, what makes its music so unique & recognizable, etc.

i think what's happening is that there are far too many characters, each with their own themes, to focus & develop any one in particular. salazar is the exception, in both the movie and the music. his intriguing character is the reason i watched the movie. and his theme kept coming into my head months after the movie.

but yea there are too many stories being unpacked onto the viewer in just a few hours in the latest pirates. but zanelli did a great job all the same.

em reply Replies: 2 || 2019-11-03 19:47:32
I listened to this again when I saw it pop up in the comments here. Something about it still just doesn't quite work for me and I can't put my finger on it. There just isn't a strong voice. With a Hans score even when he can't be bothered writing any of the cues you can hear his direction and his 'vibe'.

This score doesn't have any vibe: maybe except for Salazar which feels like a retread of Blackbeard. It's just all rightish action music. Tbh I prefer Zanelli's additional music contributions to Pirates over his composer effort.

But in his defence... they were way better than films with a good director at the helm. And On Stranger Tides score is probably one of the worst to come out of RCP, so even having the original composer doesn't guarantee anything. It's such a shame this series rotted so much.


mpolonest123 2019-11-03 19:54:27
The writing here is phenomenal and Geoff did an amazing job keeping the spirit alive. That said, the mixing is just so flat in this score. There are so many cues that are amazing but get undercut by the lack of vibrant recording. If the “sound” was closer to the previous scores I think it would be ranked higher.


superultramegaa2019-11-04 02:22:45
Honestly, the mixing isn't even what bothered me, b/c IMO the 1st Pirates movie had terrible aesthetics as well! I mean for God's sake, this is not the franchise I come to for top of the line mixing, with the 1st film's synthy, flat style. The issue is more what em said for me.

Zanelli does have a nice original voice in scores like Christopher Robin, and can adapt his style to new series fairly well as shown by Maleficent 2, but this time it just didn't work. It feels like Zimmer, again, which wouldn't necessarily be a problem if there was compelling original themes, but there really isn't. All of the new stuff sounds like variations on old material, with very little new voice.

Salazar feels like a combo of every other villain theme, the female lead's theme sounds like a slight variation on the original Pirates 1 theme, and other atmospheric motifs feel like Pirates 4 again. The only material worth noting IMO is Zanelli's variation on Sparrow's comedic theme with added heroism, and his reuse / remakes of nostalgic pieces from the series. Except that weird remake of Beckett's death, screw that.

Not that I hate the score, it's just so blah compared to the first 3, I just don't re-listening to it. However, I agree with mpolonest that it does very much feel like a Pirates score, and along with the spirit that comes with that.

nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2019-11-03 04:14:34
i just added this score to my scores collection. i already have a few PoC scores but i kept going back to youtube to listen to the salazar's theme. it's such a powerful theme! i finally decided to get the full score :)

George reply Replies: 6 || 2019-05-22 20:43:59
Geoff is doing Maleficent: Mistress of Evil! Happy for him... glad the Pirates 5 gig opened up the Disney door for him, he deserves it :)


Knight2019-05-22 21:18:53
Geoff has done several other Disney projects besides Pirates 5. (All Pirates movies since the first, Lone Ranger, Christopher Robin, Odd Life of Timothy Green). And I have to say that I would rather JNH return for the sequel, as that would allow him to expand on his fantastic score for the first film.


George2019-05-22 21:25:45
True, but he didn’t really get credit for The Lone Ranger or any of the Pirates films other than #5... those are billed strictly as HZ scores. I would say Christopher Robin likely was a result of the success of his Pirates score, and Timothy Green wasn’t really a Disney tentpole release. Maleficent isn’t a Marvel or Star Wars level tentpole, but it is still a blockbuster film that I think he’ll do an awesome job with.


iamtommie442019-05-22 21:32:57
I was hoping for JNH, but we'll see what he does. JNH's themes were amazing zo it would be stupod not to use them. But he used the Pirates themes, so I'm feeling actually quite ok about it


HunterTech2019-05-22 23:20:43
Sure, but there's two things to consider.
1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.

I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.


HunterTech2019-05-22 23:21:16
*3 things


mpolonest123 2019-05-22 23:39:19
Interesting news.

Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.

ak reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-25 06:48:16
Came across this trailer for a animated film from 2008 called Delgo, and if you go to 1:37 in the video you'll hear a very familiar theme from DMTNT. That theme can be heard in "Kill the Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait" at 1:54. And it turns out Geoff did the score for Delgo too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUpqZNlKzjs

Peter reply Replies: 2 || 2018-01-27 17:01:33
When will the album in the version "Complete Motion Picture Score", "Expanded Motion Picture Score", or maybe "Recording Sessions"?

I can not wait


Hybrid Soldier2018-01-28 08:04:32
Today


Snoke 2018-06-06 01:34:54
Yeah still hasn’t came out and are you a composer yourself Hybrid Solider? I see talking about your credits on some scores. And you seem to work on this website a lot.

Peter reply Replies: 3 || 2017-10-23 16:24:43
When Will Complete Motion Picture Score


Mandarin2017-10-23 20:18:29
Soon™
Soon™ - when disneys want.
Actually the number of tracks isn't even leaked. Complete score for "On Stranger Tides" was in 2012, maybe we'll see DMTNT in 2018


Mandarin2017-10-23 20:20:10
Sorry, complete for "On Stranger Tides" was in 2015...
"crying..."


Peter2017-10-23 22:15:55
I am doing the private Complete Score With SFX album for myself, I am separating scenes, where the music is playing, I am holding the Original of the Film of course Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Men Tell No Tales - Salazar's Revenge. And I am asking, since I don't know how works are called, and in the film the music is probably interfacing, there are no breaks.
Sorry, I am from Poland and with difficulty for me with English
I am doing everything through explain the Google

Snoke reply Replies: 4 || 2018-06-06 01:37:28
Ok it’s been a Year I’ve patiently waited for the complete score and all of be got was SFX ones off youtube come one we want the complete score. I want that first part with the Dutchman and when it turns to One Day. And some other cues.


Iamtommie2018-07-03 21:24:41
Is there anybody who knows something about a complete score. I know these sort of thing don't get officially released, but it's on my no. 1 of complete scores right now. There is so much stuff missing from the album.

If necessary, I'm even willing to pay for it. I desperatly need this!!!

Anyone?


mpolonest123 2018-07-03 22:19:44
Honestly I haven’t heard anything yet, although I’m sure there are some who have it. Ironically this is still the best album presentation of a pirates score, which is not to say there isn’t some good material missing.


mpolonest123 2018-07-03 22:20:58
Apparently Dunkirk is out there, although it’ll probably be a while before that drops...


Snoke2018-07-31 02:49:23
I agree I’m just slowly waiting it’s not long until some guy with the movie and a computer releases a non SFX complete score. Just release the damn score Zaneli and RCP.

Jean-Luc reply Replies: 0 || 2018-07-22 17:29:02
Last Night, I edited for the Traffik's score DVD sfx by Geoff Zanelli it's an okay score, but it's more like mystery music.

Here's the unreleased score

1.DVD Menu - 0:58
2.Logo - 0:58
3.Everything's Gonna Work Out - 1:16
4.The Northern Pines - 0:41
5.It's Your Lucky Day - 0:30
6.Car Chase - 0:52
7.Brea & John Riding Together In The Car - 0:27
8.Vacation House - 1:30
9.Human Trafficking - 0:24
10.Give Me The Phone! - 0:39
11.It's The Basement & Darren's Death - 2:22
12.Find The Case - 0:16
13.Should We Check It Out? - 0:25
14.Upload The Information To The Computer - 1:44
15.Biker Guy Shot The Old Man - 0:20
16.John's Death - 1:25
17.Nice And Slow - 0:38
18.Malia & Brea In The Tunnel - 0:49
19.Brea Escapes From The Tunnel - 1:03
20.Brea Finds Another Gas Station - 1:16
21.Call The Police - 0:37
22.Cops Rescue The Trafficked Women - 1:33



John reply Replies: 1 || 2018-05-28 10:49:59
Why hans zimmer himself didn’t score the movie?


Max Potcats2018-05-28 11:10:07
Issues with Bruckeimer, Verbinski wasn't involve, his Tour, he read the script :P

Oscarilbo reply Replies: 0 || 2018-04-04 22:52:45
Hybrid...
Do you know or intuate any particular reason on why did the Salazar's theme from POTC 5 sounds almost note for note like the intro "theme" from Blackbeard in POTC 4?

My first thought was that Zanelli himself wrote that part on Pirates 4, but apparently he wasn't involved in that one at all. So... It's odd because, I mean, it's POTC Universe of course, but there must be something other than mere "coincidence" I guess.

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 5 || 2018-04-03 18:57:11
Is it fair to say the many RCP guys vary considerably with how much they think their contributions with Hans "matter"?

Looking at Geoff Zanelli, for example, he seems to be very forthright with saying (or at least claiming, but I'm sure he's being honest) that "these are my contributions, this is my musical voice in Hans' score," etc... And Hans doesn't even get a "themes by" credit on POTC 5, even though themes and sometimes whole cues from Hans and co. get reprised.

But then we have people like Lorne Balfe, who also do a lot with Hans but don't really mention their involvement like it was significant. On Inception, for example, Lorne talks about being the producer of the score, "and I did some additional writing on it." But from conversations on this site, it sounds like that's a bit of a...modest assessment.


George2018-04-03 19:53:55
Maybe my opinion is completely wrong, but maybe GZ is more vocal about his credit because he’s still trying to break out on his own and get a major film to work on other than pirates? Balfe, on one hand, is well on his way and is getting major film deals... same with Henry Jackman, Ramin Djawadi, Steve Jablonsky, etc... so they don’t feel the need to point out “I did that on this Zimmer score, blah blah blah.” but Zanelli, on the other hand, hasn’t really had a break out major film score other than Pirates 5, which I really like. But he’s still trying to get his voice out there, which is maybe why he’s more vocal about what he wants credit for, like in Lone Ranger and Pirates.

Again, that’s just a thought... I could be completely wrong lol.


Edmund Meinerts2018-04-03 20:23:31
Maybe, George, but at the same time it could just be a matter of differing personalities. Perhaps Balfe is more modest and prefers to downplay his role, whereas Zanelli is proud of what he has composed and wants people to know what his work is. Not trying to say that one or the other is a better person or that their way of doing things is right, mind you, just that people are fundamentally different and handle things in different ways.


superultramegaa2018-04-03 21:26:24
Edmund are you saying that you hate Balfe? Edmund your opinions are boring don't you know that? Are you putting Balfe fans down? Are you saying Zanelli is better than Balfe?????

*Trigger Overlay as Peter and Andrew enter the thread*


Edmund Meinerts2018-04-03 21:40:03
Balfe's PR agency doesn't pay Peter and Andrew to enter other threads, I doubt they'll show up here


superultramegaa2018-04-03 23:10:36
We can only hope. As for the credits situation, I think George is right because I've seen the same behavior with Jablonsky. Now that he has a well known franchise and sound people know him for he's been very casual whenever he mentions his credits to Zimmer projects. Like when he mentioned Pearl Harbor in an interview and said nothing more than "I wrote a lot of cues for that one". He barely mentions them like Balfe and Djawadi.

However it's also very possible it has to do with differing personalities too as Jablonsky has been known to be a very humble and unpretentious person about his work. I don't know as much about Ramin and Lorne, but it may be a similar situation there.

Trace reply Replies: 0 || 2018-04-02 20:59:57
in the 4th trailer of dead men tell no tales,
the song that plays after
"What a Horrible way to live!"
It is so epic.
what is it called?
will it be in the full score?

Homer reply Replies: 5 || 2018-02-26 18:36:55
Was there a specific reason Hans didn't return to score Pirates 5? Did he have a bad time on 4? Would he return for 6 if Gore Verbinski directed?


Max Potcats2018-02-26 21:03:56
Well, Hans was working on Dunkirk and preparing his tour then. Or maybe he just red the script of P5 :P


MrZimmerFan2018-02-26 21:24:24
Or still piss of with Bruckheimer


Olive2018-02-26 23:08:38
Did he pissed with Bruckheimer?


Bukowski2018-02-27 14:03:17
Zanelli did most of the work for the other sequels so he let him take the lead this time. Still sounds like a corporate soundboard to me.



Bibi2018-02-27 14:17:37
I think if we ask me to do just a "best-of" of my precedents scores without any cohérence and entirely based on temp-tracks... I will never sign for any sequel again.

ak reply Replies: 2 || 2017-12-19 18:59:06
I wonder why they didn't use Jack's action theme from DMC. There were many moments in the film where it would've worked


Iamtommie2017-12-19 20:07:02
It's the bank heist. When Jack is pulled back by rope and lands on his chest.



james (now james callahan)2017-12-20 02:57:06
Even though I really liked the current theme for Jack and put it up together as one of the best themes of the franchise, I also missed and missed the cello melody of the previous entrances and the comic subthene played by the flutes.

George reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-04 18:34:16
I honestly like this score a lot but man whoever mixed this needs to be fired. I feel like maybe Zanelli wanted so many things to be heard in the score which, in my opinion, muddled it up a bit and “frontloaddd” it, meaning there is a lack of depth to these tracks and makes it sound kinda flat :/ I’d pay good money for someone to re-master this score.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2017-10-29 11:06:43
And if you want the full cuesheet (no, don't ask "when leak ? when leak ?", it's just a cuesheet lol) :

PROLOGUE
Geoff Zanelli

FATHER AND SON
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

9 YEARS LATER - DEVIL'S TRIANGLE
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)

GHOST ATTACK
Geoff Zanelli

CONFESSION
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher

CHASE CARINA
Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey (Hans Zimmer)

NO WOMAN HAS EVER HANDLED MY HERSCHEL!
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

BANK HEIST
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

MY BANK Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)

NO LONGER OUR CAPTAIN
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

SPEAK OF THE TRIDENT
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher, Zak McNeil

WASHED UP JACK Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

COMPASS
Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey (Hans Zimmer)

JACK ARRESTED
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

SILENT MARY ATTACKS PIRATE SHIP
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher

CARINA WRITES ON WALL
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher

HENRY FINDS JACK
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil

MESSAGE FROM SOMEONE YOU KNOW
Geoff Zanelli, Anthony B. Willis (Hans Zimmer)

DIVERTIMENTO IN E-FLAT MAJOR FOR STRING TRIO
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (W.A. Mozart)

BARBOSSA IN CABIN
Geoff Zanelli (Hans Zimmer)

ARRIVAL TO EXECUTION SQUARE - GUILLOTINE
Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey (Hans Zimmer)

KILL THE FILTHY PIRATE - EXECUTION SQUARE
Geoff Zanelli, Anthony B. Willis (Hans Zimmer)

LAUNCHING THE DYING GULL
Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey (Hans Zimmer)

UNREASONABLE DIRECTION
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher

BLUFFING AND BLUSHING
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

SCARFIELD WANTS THE TRIDENT
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)

JACK AND HENRY
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)

SCIENCE OR SUPERSTITION
Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey

FLASHBACK
Geoff Zanelli, Anthony B. Willis (Hans Zimmer)

HOROLOGIST
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

SHARK ATTACK
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher

CAN'T STEP ON DRY LAND
Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey (Hans Zimmer)

THE ANSWER IS ON THAT SHIP
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)

IT'S YOUR WEDDING DAY
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

KISS THE BRIDE
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

DOUBLE-CROSS THE DEAD - RELEASE THE BLACK PEARL
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)

SHIP RACE A
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher (Hans Zimmer)

SHIP RACE B
Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey (Hans Zimmer)

ORPHAN - BRIGHTEST STAR IN THE NORTH
Geoff Zanelli

THE TRIDENT WILL BE MINE CANNON BATTLE
Geoff Zanelli, Steve Mazzaro (Hans Zimmer)

BLACK ROCK ISLAND - TRIDENT
Geoff Zanelli

HENRYZAR
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher

TREASURE
Geoff Zanelli (Hans Zimmer)

MY NAME IS BARBOSSA
Geoff Zanelli, Paul Mounsey (Hans Zimmer)

REUNION
Geoff Zanelli, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

MAIN ON ENDS
Geoff Zanelli (Hans Zimmer)

THE TRIDENT WILL BE MINE CANNON BATTLE (END CREDITS)
Geoff Zanelli, Steve Mazzaro (Hans Zimmer)

FLASHBACK (END CREDITS 1)
Geoff Zanelli

NO WOMAN HAS EVER HANDLED MY HERSHEL! (END CREDITS)
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher

BANK HEIST (END CREDITS)
Geoff Zanelli, Phill Boucher, Zak McNeil (Hans Zimmer)

FLASHBACK (END CREDITS 2)
Geoff Zanelli, Anthony B. Willis (Hans Zimmer)

BARNACLES
Geoff Zanelli


Iamtommie2017-10-29 12:11:24
Thanks thanks thanks!!! This is awesome!!


mpolonest123 2017-10-29 14:17:18
Thanks for this! It’s a shame the full bank chase cue and the variations on “Barbossa is Hungry” were never released.


Mandarin2017-10-29 15:54:35
Thanks!! Guess, it's sfx...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2017-10-26 11:01:05
Composer credits !


David2017-10-27 05:30:45
Thanks!!!! :D

No themes by Klaus Badelt though? Or Blake Neely? :(

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 10 || 2017-05-31 18:06:24
Honestly this score has been growing on me. Granted, it's definitely not in the same league as the other three but I do have to give Zanelli props for treating the material with respect and putting some actually effort into it. Even the themes, which I didn't really grasp the first few listens, have begun to stick with me (particularly the 'trident' motif). It's one of those scores where repeated listens definitely improve the experience.

I think one of the big issues that I've noticed is that Zanelli's writing style doesn't seem to mesh as well with the previous Pirate tunes. The recording mix certainly doesn't help either. The overall sound somewhat lacks that beefier Zimmer style which, to a degree, is understandable. Also, whoever forced the temp of Beckett's death in "Treasure" should be flogged.

Last but not least, I think this album certainly could have benefitted from some more suite type cues, assuming Zanelli wrote any. Say what you will about Zimmer inundating his albums with suites, at least it gives you an idea of the development of themes for that particular score. Just my two cents.


PLEASE2017-05-31 18:46:03
does anyone know the song that pays on the string quartet when they first introduce Barbossa in the movie?

He is eating what looks like marshmellows and scratching his head during this scebe. Please guys!


Oscarilbo2017-05-31 19:44:14
I keep wondering why anyone would feel like that about the new themes when Zanelli himself wrote several themes throughout the whole franchise?

His themes (at the least) includes Tia Dalma theme, the Music Island from DMC and The Spaniards theme from OST, and nobody said anything about not "meshing" well. I think if Zimmer had written them, maybe would have been criticized for not being as catchy as the main ones, but not for not matching with the rest.

Besides, I don't remember any of the main themes of the whole saga learned and sticked with me after several listens. I do loved them immediately the first time I watched the movies and listened to the albums, but couldn't humble them after a while (specially my favorite theme of all which is the AWE main theme. Same happened with The Force Awakens new themes).

So I think they are good-to-great themes, just wait a little longer.


mpolonest123 2017-05-31 19:58:48
I never said the themes themselves don't mesh, moreover the writing style/orchestration/recording mix of this particular score. Understandably, Geoff Zanelli isn't Hans Zimmer so obviously DMTNT isn't going to sound like Zimmer. But I do find it somewhat interesting that the previous Pirate scores, despite each having about 8 or 9 different composers on the team, always had a cohesive sound.

When listening to them as a whole (without the credits included) you can't always necessarily point out individual voices in the score as far as style or orchestration (such as that's a Zanelli or Jackman cue). That's one thing Zimmer has always excelled at, being able to write music in a group setting and always pull it together with one distinctive sound and cohesiveness. When I listen to this album I can obviously hear it not being from the same group that did Curse of the Black Pearl and so on.

It might sound like I'm complaining but I do like the fact that Zanelli wrote this in his own voice. I just feel like the reprises of previous themes do somewhat expose the differences in style and whatnot. But hey, that's just me. Overall I genuinely like this score, even the Salazar theme has grown on me (and to be fair I never really cared for Blackbeard's tune)


mpolonest1232017-05-31 20:01:21
And to clarify one thing, I do know that you can hear some DNA of the different ghost writers in the previous scores, but each cue meshes insanely well together without feeling like a team effort as opposed to TASM2 or Rango.


Oscarilbo2017-05-31 20:42:17
Oh I see.. sorry, I understand you better now.

And yes, I totally agree with you... it sounds different, but I think, by the interviews with Zanelli, you can tell is not by accident. In fact, for me at least, it sounds closer to a wider orchestral soundscape quality if you will than previous POTC scores. Which if you listen to pasts Zanelli's works you'll find more understandable (his personal musical preferences leans a little bit more towards classical than Zimmer's)

I listened the score with my Senn HD598 headphones and contrary to what others say, I found it to be a more breathable, wider, and orchestral recording than the previous soundtracks.


mpolonest123 2017-05-31 21:26:25
Yeah, I definitely agree. It has (for lack of a better word) a more swashbuckling sound as opposed to the faux rock style of the first two or the epic movements of AWE.

And DMTNT would definitely have sounded different regardless of who wrote it. Imagine a Lorne Balfe take on the idea. Or a John Powell. Or a Junkie Xl (lol)


Oscarilbo2017-05-31 21:56:25
Exactly! ... liked the expression; a bit more of a "swashbuckling sound" is just what I tried to say. If I recall correctly is part of the "freshness" they wanted to "reboot" with this franchise.

And yeah, definitely it would have sounded different with any of those.



MrOLX2017-06-26 15:11:32
This theme is probably Branderbourg Concerto no. 3.


MrOLX2017-06-26 15:19:45
Oh, theme is Brandenburg Concerto no. 3, no Branderbourg Concerto no. 3.


mpolonest123 2017-09-16 02:18:43
Just saw the film recently and boy, what a mess. In some ways it’s worse than Stranger Tides, mainly because the writing comes across as fan fiction and you can tell that they put effort into making it, which increased my personal disappointment.

The score on the other hand, after hearing it in context, is incredible. While my issue with the recording mix still stands, Geoff knocked it out of the ballpark. Each theme is used correctly and actually receive development throughout. And there are SEVERAL unreleased cues that stood out to me. The only reason I want this franchise to continue is to hear what else he would write lol

David reply Replies: 3 || 2017-07-25 10:15:50
Doesn't beat the first three films, however, I think this score is brilliant in its own right. I love the new themes Zanelli brought to the table (Carina/Barbossa theme, Salazar's theme, Adventure theme, etc.) and he did a fantastic job at blending old and new music to create something that sounded unique, yet classic at the same time. Cannot wait until the Complete Score is released.

I would say On Stranger Tides is my least favorite score (although it has some fantastic cues and themes (Blackbeard's theme, Angelica's theme, Spanish theme, etc.). Just felt like it was really missing the heart and emotion of the first 3 scores, which Dead Men Tell No Tales brought back. Honestly, it's still a fantastic score, and much better than the majority of blockbuster soundtracks I hear today.


David2017-07-25 23:32:25
Oh great, there's another David! :/

It's funny you and Everan (over on the TF5 page) think the complete scores for these films will be getting "released"! :P


Everan2017-07-26 02:27:59
Never said they will be released, I said might.


David2017-07-26 12:05:47
When I say "released" that doesn't necessarily mean in a...legal sense

Catastrophic Jones reply Replies: 3 || 2017-07-21 01:40:42
Having gotten the chance to meet Geoff a couple months back at the ASCAP Expo (albeit very briefly) it was clear he was very enthusiastic about working on Pirates, and even The Lone Ranger which the Disney soundtrack executive tried to silence him on talking about lol While nothing will ever compare to the original trilogy, score wise and film wise, this is a very nicely executed extension of the music in the world of Pirates. It's on the scale of honoring the original style and themes while injecting some new material much like what Giacchino did with Rogue One, which I happened to have liked as well. It's not meant to be the kind of score that stands out as 'unique and different', it's about honoring the tradition. I look forward to hearing what else Zanelli has to offer in the future.


Callahan2017-07-21 01:54:17
Yes. PoTC 5 is not the best score of the franchise, but it sure is, until now, the best CD that RC / MV produced in the year.


Hale2017-07-21 13:31:50
Wonder Woman wasn't too bad :D


Callahan2017-07-21 15:44:49
I agree, but this one is much better.

romuald reply Replies: 6 || 2017-07-10 19:20:55
Hello,

Anyone can tell what is the instrument used in Dead Men Tell No Tales at about 1:00, I like it.

Regards

Romuald


James2017-07-10 19:40:06
A duduk.


Max Potcats2017-07-10 23:14:36
Wasn't it used in Gladiator and in At World's End (at the end of the discussion with Keith Richard and Sparrow ?). Sounds like


James2017-07-10 23:57:55
Indeed


Iamtommie2017-07-11 10:06:51
It's also used in the first Narnia. In a Narnia Lullaby. This is what Tumnus is playing in his house.


romuald2017-07-11 10:26:10
Thank you everybody, what a cool instrument!!! Could I find a plug in with this instrument???

Romuald



Patrick2017-07-11 13:41:10
There are some VST plugins, e. g. as part of the Quantum Leap East West RA Collection by Soundsonline (~300$), Desert Winds by Bestservice (~111€) and Ilya Efimov Armenian Duduk (~70€). There are also some free ones, but their sounds is more or less MIDI ringtone quality, e. g. "Oriental Scale" (vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=417)

Nick reply Replies: 4 || 2017-06-25 10:32:24
I must be the biggest weirdo in all of film score history, because the highlight of DMTNT for me was "I've Come With the Butcher's Bill." It resonated instrumentally, most notably that badass cello (?) at around the 2:35 mark, it was the perfect blend of old and new themes, and best of all, it sounded like a swashbuckling theme. As much as I loved the action cues in the first three, I sometimes felt that they resembled a Latin hell choir more than a traditional pirate piece, especially AWE. It's good listening, but sometimes it sounded more like Gregorian Chanters of the Caribbean. :P
I seriously blast Butcher's Bill out loud on the highway, I love it so much.


mpolonest123 2017-06-25 16:01:17
Not at all! ; ) That's one of my favorite tracks as well. I would also throw in the major chord progressions of the Trident theme in "Power of the Sea" and the INSANE electric cello statement of Salazar's theme at 3:00 in "Kill the Sparrow". Great workout tracks!


Hybrid Soldier2017-06-26 16:37:41
That cue is Mazzaro !


...2017-06-26 17:05:02
Does anyone notice the Barbossa/Beckett theme from On Stranger Tides at 1:52 in "Shansa"?


Medigo2017-06-27 18:15:00
shame the movie decided to apparently remove the electric cello Salazar rendition
boo!

PLEASE reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-31 18:46:56
does anyone know the song that pays on the string quartet when they first introduce Barbossa in the movie?

He is eating what looks like marshmellows and scratching his head during this scebe. Please guys!


MrOLX2017-06-26 09:13:16
Probably Branderbourg Concerto no. 3

David reply Replies: 2 || 2017-06-06 07:34:21
Hey Hybrid is there any chance you could update the tracklist with which pieces contain material written by HZ & Co from the previous 4 films? Please?


Iamtommie2017-06-21 00:09:06
1. "Dead Men Tell No Tales" 1:50
2. "Salazar" 4:33
3. "No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel" (includes elements of "He's a Pirate") 3:58
4. "You Speak of the Trident" 1:58
5. "The Devil's Triangle" 2:45
6. "Shansa" 3:12
7. "Kill the Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait" (includes elements of "He's a Pirate", "Jack Sparrow" and "Hoist the Colours Suite") 4:50
8. "The Dying Gull" (includes elements of "Hoist the Colours Suite") 1:00
9. "El Matador del Mar" (includes elements of "One Last Shot", "He's a Pirate", "Jack Sparrow" and "The Medallion Calls") 8:05
10. "Kill the Sparrow" 6:15
11. "She Needs the Sea" (includes elements of "One Last Shot", "Jack Sparrow", "Wheel of Fortune" and "The Medallion Calls") 2:32
12. "The Brightest Star in the North" 6:00
13. "I've Come with the Butcher's Bill" (includes elements of "Lord Cutler Beckett", "Swords Crossed" and "Wheel of Fortune") 6:40
14. "The Power of the Sea" 4:07
15. "Treasure" (includes elements of "The Black Pearl" and "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time") 5:43
16. "My Name Is Barbossa" (includes elements of "One Last Shot", "Marry Me" and "Jack Sparrow") 5:34
17. "Beyond My Beloved Horizon" (includes elements of "He's a Pirate") 2:40


Guy Fawkes2017-06-21 16:00:13
"No Woman Has Ever..." also includes The Medallion Calls and Jack Sparrow. And "Kill the Filthy" also includes Marry Me. This list is way estimated... The best thing it will be know the credits of every song, I think.

Can I Just Say... reply Replies: 0 || 2017-06-21 13:32:48
That 6:09 to 6:38 of "El Matador Del Mar" was clearly temped with 6:36 to 6:59 of "Barbarian Horde" from "Gladiator". It stood out so much that I had to do a double take and replay the track just to make sure I wasn't listening to the wrong album! But overall, I have really enjoyed this album: it is a nice extension and slight development of Hans' (and others') themes from the previous movies, and Zanelli's new additions (although a bit bland and generic) really fit in musically to the "Pirates of the Caribbean" sound we've come to know (and which some of us love). I actually also like the mixing work that was done on the soundtrack: it really gives the orchestral recording a big, thick, organic sound, much more so than the previous scores which were quite synthetic (even "On Stranger Tides", with barely any synths used at all, was mixed to a degree where it still sounded relatively unnatural and overly bassy).

Leo reply Replies: 6 || 2017-06-03 12:40:26
In Dead Men Tell No Tales, what is the song that plays right after Barbossa tells Jack "Time to race the dead."? The theme plays while Jack is complaint about going away from land.


Mandarin2017-06-03 18:34:45
Unfourtanately this theme wasn't included in the OST. Seems like we have to wait for complete score.


Pirate's Life2017-06-05 13:12:17
When will be the complete score?


iamtommie2017-06-05 14:11:02
I base my answer on last years Captain America: Civil War's complete score.
Civil War also out in May. The tracklist of the complete score was on this website in October. At the end of Decemeber the complete score was released.

Maybe this will be the same with Pirates 5


George2017-06-05 15:49:06
Well I hope that in the complete score release there will be more suites. I love the new adventure theme but I would like a track with it having more play time and more development, guess we'll see though


Mandarin2017-06-06 20:49:19
Complete score is usually released all of a sudden. We will be happy if it actually is released. Still waiting for complete score of Batman v Superman and Inferno...


Nikolas 2017-06-17 23:46:46
The song you are asking is a remake of the "Barbossa is Hungry" from the first movie

Alexander reply Replies: 0 || 2017-06-06 14:12:17
For anyone here who is listening to vinyl music as well, the company "music on vinyl" is now trying to get the rights to press the pirates scores on vinyl :)

James reply Replies: 0 || 2017-06-06 02:20:03
Where is the suite?

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