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Lord of the Rings - Shore<br>Battlestar Galactica - McCreary<br><br>Both are up there as my two favorite collection of works. GOT doesn't even compare to BSG. <br><br>For solo albums, my candidates are:<br><br>Titanic<br>The Lion King<br>Interstellar<br>Memoirs of a Geisha<br>Jurassic Park<br><br><br> <br><br>@superultramega<br>Honestly I feel like most of the issues with AUJ (and the other two hobbit films) were stemming from Peter Jackson editing the hell out of the music after the fact. It could be why they ended up dumping some themes in the following films.<br><br>Still, I don’t understand some of the criticism that the Hobbit trilogy scores received. DoS has some of the best action material imo, and the interpolations of Smaug’s theme(s) throughout the films are personally some of my favorite music from any LoTR project.<br><br>And this might be controversial, but I would put PoTC (the first three at least) on the level of Lord of the Rings in terms of the sheer amount of themes and development they receive. Maybe not quite as complex but they shouldn’t be overlooked.The Lion King and The Last Samurai are good choices, but I'm not as much of a fan as Zimmer's aesthetic or thematic work nearly as much as Howard Shore, or even Jablonskly at times. Game of Thrones I still can't comment on as I've never watched the show, or payed attention to Djawadi in general.<br><br>I would say Shore's heart wasn't in Desolation and Five Armies, but to say that about Unexpected Journey doesn't really feel right to me. Even themes like Gondor Restored and Nazgul's uses have some logic to them. <br><br>Gondor Restored was also used when the Ring is destroyed, meaning it also has a secondary meaning of victory against evil, (yes I know it affected Gondor too, but Gondor it isn't as direct). Which also applies in The Hobbit, as Bilbo saving Thorin was not only important for their relationship but also the future of Middle Earth as Thorin is vital to the battle against the orcs in Five Armies. <br><br>The Nazgul theme also makes sense as its first appearance is in Fellowship's opening, playing over Sauron's army of orcs, then Sauron himself. So it's linked both to Sauron himself and his servants, which includes Azog. Plus the version that plays in the film is the exact same variant (and lyrics) that plays in the Fellowship prologue. It serves almost as a precursor to the Nazgul. Plus I don't see why themes can't have several meanings anyway.  <br><br>Plus I love most of the new themes of AUJ (before they were abandoned in later films).Not really a fair comparison, Hybrid, since videogames as a medium are much younger than films, and their scores weren't using real orchestras right until... mid 90's, would be my guess (feel free to correct me, guys).<br><br>The all time best film score for me would be a battle between The Last Samurai and Lion King. If "movie" includes TV shows, then it's Game of Thrones without a doubt, but I'm not gonna have this argument again ;)<br><br>Btw. I wouldn't mention Hobbit in the same sentence with LotR, even music-wise. A couple of great cues cannot hide the fact that Shore's heart wasn't in it.IS * lion king
Best film score of all time in lion king. Without any doubt. ;-)Can I just add, the album presentation for MW2 is really lame? It's a big, dare I say "epic" score in the 1990s Media Ventures mold. I think it's really solid. There are lots of different ideas from the first mission to the last, and a lot of them are written in the power anthem style that Hans ans co. don't really use much these days. Even Opening Titles is a throwback for Hans himself. <br><br>Unfortunately, almost none of the music as heard through the game is here. Instead, we got a bunch of shortened theme suites. :P<br><br>But the Gulag mission, the oil rig stuff, The Enemy of My Enemy, and lots of other missions all have pretty engaging and powerful music. I wish the RCP guys would do scores like this one more.Lord of the Rings (and even The Hobbit), are the only film scores that I'm buying an entire book for, just to fully understand the themes and motifs.Every time I revisit this score the first cue I automatically go back to is “This Isn’t Right”. Something about RGW’s string writing always stuck with me, even if he isn’t the most memorable when it comes to themes.<br><br>As for this score itself, I feel like it might have become a classic had it not been paired with such a shitty film. It’s funny, the score sounds less like Hans’ style to me and more like James Horner’s. Granted he only wrote one cue apparently...But the best film score of all time is Lord of the Rings... :>
Guys... Video Game music didn't start in 2008... lol<br><br><br>Your little game is actually impossible... It's pretty much like trying find "what is the best film score of all time"...I agree with Araujo and Knorr wholeheartedly. Cannot say the same for Soule; I always found his music lackluster and unfocused, sans the main theme of course. I'd like to mention my first runner-up, which is Destiny: Rise of Iron alongside Destiny 2. I was never a huge fan of the first two scores (original game + the first expansion), but the moment a guy named Rotem Moav got on Salvatori's team, the music became incredible (even though I have no evidence that those two events are related). Nevertheless, since it's stylistically so different from old-school and symphonic LAIR, I'd probably name it my No.1 alongside it.<br><br>If you guys are looking for recommendations, be sure to check these out:<br>The Witcher 3 (Marcin Przyby³owicz, Mikolai Stroinski, and a band called Percival), LotRO: Riders of Rohan (Chance Thomas), Assassin's Creed IV (Brian Tyler), Alone In The Dark (Olivier Deriviére), Eagle Flight (Inon Zur), Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius (Noriyasu Agematsu), Ni No Kuni I/II (Joe Hisaishi), and of course Medal of Honor and Gears of War IV by Ramin ;)Gonna have to chip in for Skyrim as well, although I'm biased because I used to put hundreds of hours into that game :p<br><br>Oscar Araujo's music for the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow games is pretty good, as well as Geoff Knorr and his team's work on the last few Civ games.Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, Returns and Tropical Freeze.The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is by far on top for me. It feels like the ultimate culmination of Jeremy Soule's work on the the series along with symphony-level quality for the town and exploration music.
I go with Lair and Outcast as most favorite.<br><br>And also the Blizzard games music like Word Of Warcraft, StarCraft and Heroes of The StormI think a big part of it is that half of the cues written for the film are 30 seconds or less (or even 10 seconds in some cases). It’s almost impossible to have thematic development when you are constrained like that, so I do understand. Still, it’s hilarious hearing Zimmer give the Simpsons theme “Lion King” treatment in the main theme suite, shame that wasn’t used at all in film.<br><br>As far as the shorter cues go though, the Church Prophecy is pretty cool, and I personally love the Green Day organ cues. That was genius on whoever’s part decided to do it...Yeah it's weird how little overlap there is between the complete score and the album. I think over half of the music on the album didn't end up in the movie, at least not verbatim. I agree it makes for a much better listen, although in my version I've added a few of the better/more substantial cues from the complete score (like the cool Angels & Demons-style "Church Prophecy"/1m11-12v17, which I'm almost positive is an Atli Örvarsson contribution).Ah thankyou, thankyou very much :)And the Warrior Whispers Back<br><br>:)
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The Boss Baby
Label: Back Lot Music
Length: 66'11 (Score: 56'30)
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  1. Survival Of The Fittest (2:24)
  2. Baby Brother (3:58)
  3. Welcome To Baby Corp (3:12)
  4. You Can't Get Away From Johnny Law (2:11)
  5. We Can Buy A Bouncy House (3:18)
  6. Super Colossal Big Fat Boss Baby (1:11)
  7. Barfmitzvah (2:11)
  8. Toodaloo Toilet-Head! (4:02)
  9. I Wish You Were Never Born (2:53)
  10. Puppy Co. (3:27)
  11. You Want To Hug Me, Don't You? (3:20)
  12. Arrrggh (2:01)
  13. Francis Francis (4:19)
  14. You're Fired (4:28)
  15. Upsies! I Need Upsies! (1:44)
  16. Love (5:17)
  17. Go Get Yourself A Horse (2:19)
  18. What The World Needs Now Is Love - Missi Hale (4:15)
  19. Cheek To Cheek (From the Motion Picture "Top Hat") - Fred Astaire (5:01)
  20. (Every Time I Turn Around) Back In Love Again - L.T.D. (4:40)
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dariya den reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-27 13:56:01
love

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-20 01:49:04
The Sierra Leone track Andrew K posted (link below)...I almost wonder if that's how 2010s Zimmer would redo The Lion King. More bass, more minimalist, more Interstellar...but still with an African flare.

Felix reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-18 18:35:40
Andrew loaded some cues to the movie "The Last Face" up on his soundcloud page, go & check it :)

soundcloud.com/andrewkawczynski/sets/the-last-face


...2017-11-19 02:46:45
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.


Hal2017-11-19 13:03:31
Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:25:47
I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...


Hal2017-11-19 13:43:44
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of sounds


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:49:07
Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...


Mike (OTM)2017-11-19 23:04:16
Huh. Well, the music Andrew posted is nice.

MHarru reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-04 01:36:42
Have to agree that Megamind was MUCH better.the Conrad cue though is amazing.rest is not at all Zimmer.

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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-11-03 17:50:36
Yes, it’s definitely no Megamind, but I will say that after revisiting it; definitely not as disappointing to me as when I first heard. The issues I have are still the same (frenetic action, ADD-type scoring, Pope’s cue being the strongest, etc.) but at the same time it’s a very charming score when it slows the pace and lets the emotional side come forward. I will even give credit to the main theme(s), they actually get more development than Megamind’s main tune. It’s a shame this score kinda got written off this year, it’s enjoyable enough.

And as for the “Love” cue, that really is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I’ve heard in recent memory. It’s a great throwback to classical music with that John Williams string sound. I really wish Zimmer had written it, but understandably that’s not his style.


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 18:29:00
Hans wanted Conrad to just be Conrad. He spent like 2 months on that only cue !


mpolonest123 2017-11-03 21:27:14
Really?!? Well it shows! I’m confused though, did Hans bring Conrad on board or was that the production’s decision?


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 23:04:04
Hans !

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-25 19:26:29
no suite up for this one? :)


Micah2017-05-25 19:35:43
Man, I loved this movie.

isildur reply Replies: 9 || 2017-04-07 20:22:45
Yo Hybrid, credits for this? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? Hans suites and Steve everything else? What about Conrad Pope?


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-07 20:41:18
I'd bet my left nut that "Love" is Pope.


Hybrid Soldier2017-04-08 04:05:52
Pope did Love indeed.


Mike782017-04-08 11:03:17
Love is amazing . He rest is not as good as megamind . Don't think zimmer gave 100% to this


c2017-04-08 13:57:25
Conrad Pope explains the cue on his facebook. They needed something more dynamic and classical-sounding.

The editor James Ryan also commented:

"Every screening for well over 2 years the last thing we would do was work on that scene and struggle to re-edit the temp. I've never worked on a scene in any movie that had so much riding on the music. The sigh of relief and joy when you delivered your masterpiece was something I will never forget. And watching you conduct it gave me the chills (and a few tears). Bravo!"

By far the strongest piece on the album. The rest is pretty forgettable.


Andrew272017-04-08 14:43:35
That's amazing to hear from the editor . Wish the rest of the score was as good as Popes piece.

Think Lego Batman is still best animation score this year . Was really looking forward to Boss Baby but seems generic .


Ds2017-04-08 15:08:27
You guys are right that "Love" is a great cue. But the rest of the score is just as good, with plenty of ideas and a very cool and memorable theme.

The issue is that this kind of scores requires some patience from the listeners, because it's too crazy, too packed, with so many twists and style variations it's difficult to fully grasp the whole thing after just a few listens.

It's just like any John Powell score for animation: absolutely great music that takes some time to fully digest. So please, give it a few more spins and some time to grow on you before you judge it!


Mike (OTM)2017-04-08 20:00:25
"Love" is an awesome cue and all. I really love it. But I don't understand: could no one at RCP have delivered something like this? Pope was obviously a good pick, but are Zimmer and co. truly incapable of arranging this type of thing?


mpolonest1232017-04-08 20:21:06
@Mike(OTM) Not necessarily, I feel like Richard Harvey could easily have delivered something in this vein. That being said, I'm sure the production team probably had their heart set on whatever temps they used for that scene (more likely than not something that Pope either composed or orchestrated) and decided to go directly to the man himself.

It is a bit strange that they would only bring him in to do one scene, as opposed to working alongside Hans and Steve throughout. But it's not unheard of, I guess.


Miguel2017-04-08 22:44:06
The only person at RCP that could do what Pope did was , is Balfe . Why didn't he get involved especially after the Megamind connection???

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-02 00:40:11
Hybrid, since you generally have an idea about this stuff, do you have a rough estimate of how composing duties/credits were divided here? Co-score all throughout? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? ;)

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-01 17:53:54
This Score Is Awsome, Hans Zimmer & Steve Mazzaro Work For The First Time And Additional Music By Cornad Pope. Is The Same Style Animated Movie Score Like Megamind With Lorne Balfe.
Can Wait To See The Boss Baby

Scorefan reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 22:00:04
Hans Zimmer and Conrad Pope in a film together would be awesome!!


Dino2017-03-31 09:56:35
Also add Balfe to that line up and that would be amazing

Jonathan Rochat reply Replies: 5 || 2017-03-24 14:04:27
Not bad! The "Love" cue has great orchestral moments. At least *** score after the first listen.


credit2017-03-26 10:46:03
So "Love" was obviously done by Conrad Pope. Never heard anyone from RCP write anything remotely close to that style.

But what about the rest of the score? I can hear a lot of Hans in the theme and the action material (a lot of his action riffs and stylings from megamind) but not sure which bits Mazzaro did.


iMe2017-03-26 14:15:20
@credit

Agreed with your comment on Conrad Pope's involvement.

Goes to show what Hans Zimmer's tunes can become if orchestrated and arranged by someone of Pope's caliber. I hope to see the duo collaborate more often.


Miguel2017-03-27 05:16:04
Conrad should have been the co composer with Hans I think !. I bet he contributed more than just that amazing cue .


Mike (OTM)2017-03-27 15:52:51
So I agree it's likely that Conrad Pope was involved with the "Love" cue, but watch what's gonna happen...

We're gonna find out that cue is 100% Zimmer, and we're all gonna have our minds blown. Cause honestly, that type of thing happens a lot. :P


Jonathan Rochat2017-03-27 16:24:51
Yes ok I then had a look at Conrad Pope. That guys has orchestrated "Jurassic Park" (and many many others) so yes it seems that the "love" cue could have been completely in his hand. And note this is the first Time Conrad Pope is credited as Additional composer here, maybe this is just because of that cue... Now we need to wait for Hybrid , maybe one day we will know the answer.

Anon reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:35:38
Who is Conrad Pope ? Is he RCP ?


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-27 09:51:25
He's done a few scores (Pavilion of Women is outstanding), but he's better known as a veteran orchestrator for many years for composers like John Williams, Alan Silvestri and Alexandre Desplat. In other words, he knows what he's doing. Quite unexpected for him to show up on an RCP score!

Antois reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 09:24:02
I don't think lego Batman soundtrack is overrated at all . Great emotion and themes . I found you is a great robin theme also .

Anto reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:24:39
No the best sad to say. Sounds like Hans didn't do much in it. Lego Batman is still winning for me this year for best score so far for sure


Dragonseeker2017-03-27 07:19:01
Lego Batman is the most overrated score this year to me. The Boss Baby is not amazing either imo, but it has a very clear thematic structure.

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 05:28:05
Not great . This is not Hans music unfortunately

Waymann reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-24 10:01:07
Great score, love the action cues and the constant use of main theme in different variations throughout the whole score. Honestly I prefer this one over the Lego Batman soundtrack...


Dudu2017-03-24 16:53:10
Same here!!
Loved that score and prefer it to lego batman. The main theme is cool, and there's an "out-of-nowhere" throwback to the 90s in the cue "barfmitzvah", what can I ask more??


FilmMuso2017-03-27 05:21:10
No way is it better than Lego Batman . This is Megamind basically . Lego Batman has interesting colors and has soul. Wouldn't mind more Conrad Pope collaborations though !

... reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-25 17:40:03
Never has there been so little interest in a Zimmer release. What'd you guys think?

I personally found it fun, but a tad loud :)


Mephariel2017-03-25 23:45:48
Fun score. But anything with Steve Mazzaro tends to be electronically overhanded and loud. Nice theme and nice soundscape building though.

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-24 12:59:24
Conrad Pope was here? That's surprising!

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-21 22:05:24
If you watch the live stream video on the official Dunkirk website they have some score which I would put money on is from Zimmer.

A fan reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-19 05:48:36
Can you put on some music from the album...I haven't heard of the music for a painful while


Ds2017-03-19 09:20:15
Samples are on iTunes!


Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simps2017-03-19 17:51:42
Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simpsons Movie.


Thanks Ds2017-03-20 02:26:40
It sounds like a fun score.


Mephariel2017-03-20 07:19:22
I like what I am hearing so far, especially the new theme. It is really nice to know that Zimmer likes to have fun once in a while.

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-18 12:45:07
Hans Zimmer And Steve Mazzaro Workings Together As Composer For The First Time In This Movie. Wow!, I Can Wait To Hear The Score And See The Movie

I Still Remember That Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe Working Together At Megamind With The Director By Tom McGrath ,The Bible & Son Of God.
I Got To Say Hans Zimmer Is The Best Composer I Ever Known And Hear His Music


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-19 22:13:33
Yeah, Zimmer and Mazzaro are working together far from the first time here, Mr. Useless Shitpost Man.

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-19 18:48:35
Sounds just like Megamind !


Tim2017-03-19 19:19:56
Do wish Hans would stop doing theses co writes . They don't sound his usual standard . Not very original this score

SamMusix reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-18 01:52:26
Lame - why didn't Hans and Lorne work on this


mpolonest123 2017-03-18 03:09:25
Why is it lame? Have you heard it yet?

Give it a chance, Steve Mazzaro has shown some promise in the past and has never really had a chance to show his talents in a more solo effort. Between this and Pirates, it'll be cool to hear his more orchestral side.

Hell, I still remember when Lorne Balfe was first breaking away from his co-composer status and people were hating on him...


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-18 10:39:50
Hey Lorne is not a puppy waiting lol... He has a career, he is not spinning around what Hans does anymore !

Mike (Longtime Visitor Mike/Old Timer Mike) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-17 22:40:53
52 minutes of score? My, Hans' releases have improved since the days of Madagascar! And Mazzaro is a co-composer? This will be interesting!

(Sorry about the long name, btw. There being other "Mikes" here necessitated a way to identify myself. I was the only one for a long time. xD)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-04 00:02:15
New Hans OST coming soon !


Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-04 00:26:09
Great!


Mephariel2017-03-04 10:59:19
When did Zimmer work on this score? Right after Hidden Figures?


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-04 12:02:52
Yeah second half of last year. Hidden Figures was being recorded in August.


Michael 2017-03-04 12:33:09
I take it Lorne also worked on it ? Hope so

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