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I'll try to explain myself more with the scores I wasn't a big fan of. I really like a lot of Gears of War 3. It has a lot of faster paced, melodic action cues, and the cues from Gears of War 2 are improved. Its main problem is it's not very memorable, which Jablonsky is usually able to produce. <br><br>Ender's Game I found to be a bit of a slog. There was a lot of ambient/sound design cues which I found incredibly dull. However, it's possible I was expecting too much, or maybe I was too harsh on it. I'll try to have another listen to that one. <br><br>Gangster Squad was one where I just looked at the comments to see what people thought about it, and the consensus was "it copied every recent Hollywood score", so I just skipped that one. <br><br>TF3 had a lot of good thematic material, and the finale's action music was a lot of fun, but it lacks the memorability and excitement of the first 2, or the subtlety of 5, making it fall in the middle for me. Plus the Inception sound was pretty annoying. <br><br>Gears of War 2 falls into mediocre for me. The main theme is solid, but the action is repetitive and doesn't have much variation. Plus it also wasn't very memorable. It's basically a worse version of Gears 3 to me. <br><br>Transformers 1 and 2 don't really count to me because those were more an RCP effort than a Jablonsky one. Just to clarify, I don't hate that Jablonsky went down this route. I first learned of his existence through the Transformers scores for god's sake. It's just that listening to Steamboy, it makes me sad there wasn't more of this side of Jablonsky. Oh, and honorable mention to TMNT: Out of the Shadows, that was a great superhero score!Gangster Squad was Ok, but i prefer Ender's Game, actually the sound design in that i find it certain interesting.<br><br>In Battleship, yeah, it's nothing original, but for me, is a guilty pleasure, i love the percussion (i'm a big fan of the taiko sound)<br><br>Enderís Game isnít bad at all, there are some cool power anthems and orchestral moments in it. As for Battleship, while I find most of it generic, I genuinely do like the alien ďMRIĒ sound design he incorporated.<br><br>And one of Jablonskyís most underrated scores imo is Gangster Squad. If you want a fun Jablonsky score that strays away (mostly) from the Zimmer sound thatís it. Any score using Antz as a temp track is fine by me!I will disagree with TF3, Ender's Game, Gears of War 2 and 3, there are good scores, altough i'm a massive fan of that guilty pleasure is Battleship ;D<br><br>And A Nightmare on Elm Street was cool.John Powell to receive Henry Mancini Award. <br><br>Look it up at filmmusicreporter.<br><br>Congrats John
Edmund's right. It's really just sad that Jablonsky could have been one of the greatest composers ever, one with more notoriety and respect from the music community, but instead settled for being... a decent composer.<br><br>TF5 was a step in the right direction, D-War was a great monster movie score, Your Highness came close to Steamboy levels, and IDEA felt like Jablonsky's symphony in a lot of ways. But on the other end you have Ender's Game, Transformers 3 and 4, Battleship, Gears of War 2, Gears of War: Judgement, and a few others that range from ok, to flat out awful. Occasionally though you get some decent ones like Gears of War 3, and A Nightmare on Elm Street.<br><br>My point is, we get a composer overridden with bland projects, and musically inept directors, when he had the potential for being Oscar level.This just occurred to me. 1:44-2:10ish in Remember Who You Are kind of sounds like part of Mozartís Ave Verum Corpus...and we know Hans is a fan of that piece...@mpolonest: I'm the opposite side: BvS grown each time i listened.<br><br>Not the same for MoS ;D@DS<br><br>You are absolutely right, and it was something that I did think about while I was writing the post, I just never clarified it. <br><br>But that also has the opposite effect as well. I've had plenty of scores/songs which originally I liked that I gradually grew to dislike or simply lose interest. One of the most recent ones is BvS, which I enjoyed when it came out but looking back is probably one of my least favorite Zimmer scores.@Edmund @Ds totally agree! This days the only composer that convince me is Steven Price.
Is there a Balfe score that is not very temped? Every single Balfe score I listened to is basically giving an old score a fresh set of paint.mpolonest123: it's difficult to compare scores that are 10 years old and that you had plenty of time to digest, with brand new scores you've only heard a couple of times.<br><br>You said it yourself, when Clash of the Titans came out you thought it was generic and forgettable. It's only later that you noticed all these themes and all the work Djawadi put into it.<br><br>And actually it works like that with any new album released by any major artist. Fans are always like "it sucks, I prefer their previous albums". And yet 5 years later they love all these songs and know them by heart. :-pEdmund: I see your point, and if everyone could become 100% objective it would be actually true. But in practice, our personal tastes play a heavy role in deciding whether a score is interesting or fun or creative or intelligent or enjoyable. Some people like very classical, orchestral music more than anything else; even if JXL was creating the craziest soundtrack ever, his sound palette and synthetic approach alone would be enough to make these people dislike the score and say it's rubbish. The level of detail he put in Tomb Raider is astonishing, but sadly it'll only be noticed by people who are not upset by this style of brutal and synthetic environment. Of course it also works the other way, dry orchestral scores like Giacchino frequently writes do nothing to me, I don't particularly like this kind of sound, so I never spent a lot of time listening to them. As a consequence, I never was able to dissect them to discover all their (I guess) richness, subtleties, etc. So from my point of view, almost all Giacchino scores sound the same way and are not interesting, and I don't understand how and why he keeps getting all those major assignments. That's to say, our personal preferences will always interfere with our judgment, even if we honestly try to be fair.I feel like I see/have this kind of conversation on film music boards all the time. The approach isn't the problem, it's the execution. For example, when Man of Steel came out:<br><br>me: "I'm a bit disappointed by Man of Steel, it has its moments but I don't think it's a very good score overall"<br>fanboys: "JOHN WILLIAMS WAS YESTERDAY, ZIMMER IS TODAY, THIS IS A DIFFERENT SUPERMAN BLAH BLAH BLAH GET OVER IT"<br>me: "...did I mention Williams?"<br><br>or else Mad Max: Fury Road<br><br>me: "Mad Max is a decent score but I feel like the film deserved much more"<br>fanboys: "THERE'S LITERALLY A DUDE ON A DRUM CAR WITH A FLAMETHROWER GUITAR WHAT DID YOU EXPECT"<br>me: "...a composer who does more interesting things with those drums and that guitar?"<br><br>All over the place. It was really aggravating. This is a similar situation A talented film composer can write interesting, engaging music in all sorts of styles, for all sorts of films and under all sorts of directorial conditions. My issue with Tomb Raider isn't that it's not a traditional Jerry Goldsmith adventure score. I never expected that from this film, and certainly not from this composer. It's just not a very interesting or intelligent or enjoyable version of what it's trying to be, and that's the bottom line.@mrzimmerfan <br><br>I completely agree with you. Tomb Raider definitely didnít need a traditional score at all. And I love all the scores youíve mentioned. I even donít have a problem with the approach he took.<br><br>But I just donít like the score as is. We just have to agree to disagree, no harm done. :-)
I don't think he means that, just that it would have been interesting if Jablonsky had gone more into animated movies like Powell did, rather than mostly Michael Bay. I think maybe we got a hint of what that could have been like with Your Highness a few years ago, a score I'll always defend, but yeah...the lack of follow-up to Steamboy is a great tragedy in Jablonsky's career.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.I don't think Jablonsky is going to be a new John Powell ;)<br><br>But this one of his most notable efforts, i will said that.This is feels like a very temped soundtrack, only that explains why the score is so generic. I wonder which movies music scenes producer-director used to make lorne do this. <br><br>Track 8 - is Tron legacy (dont know maybe he worked on it, powell was involved maybe he was too)

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The Boss Baby
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  1. Survival Of The Fittest (2:24)
  2. Baby Brother (3:58)
  3. Welcome To Baby Corp (3:12)
  4. You Can't Get Away From Johnny Law (2:11)
  5. We Can Buy A Bouncy House (3:18)
  6. Super Colossal Big Fat Boss Baby (1:11)
  7. Barfmitzvah (2:11)
  8. Toodaloo Toilet-Head! (4:02)
  9. I Wish You Were Never Born (2:53)
  10. Puppy Co. (3:27)
  11. You Want To Hug Me, Don't You? (3:20)
  12. Arrrggh (2:01)
  13. Francis Francis (4:19)
  14. You're Fired (4:28)
  15. Upsies! I Need Upsies! (1:44)
  16. Love (5:17)
  17. Go Get Yourself A Horse (2:19)
  18. What The World Needs Now Is Love - Missi Hale (4:15)
  19. Cheek To Cheek (From the Motion Picture "Top Hat") - Fred Astaire (5:01)
  20. (Every Time I Turn Around) Back In Love Again - L.T.D. (4:40)
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dariya den reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-27 13:56:01

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-20 01:49:04
The Sierra Leone track Andrew K posted (link below)...I almost wonder if that's how 2010s Zimmer would redo The Lion King. More bass, more minimalist, more Interstellar...but still with an African flare.

Felix reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-18 18:35:40
Andrew loaded some cues to the movie "The Last Face" up on his soundcloud page, go & check it :)

...2017-11-19 02:46:45
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.

Hal2017-11-19 13:03:31
Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?

Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:25:47
I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...

Hal2017-11-19 13:43:44
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of sounds

Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:49:07
Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...

Mike (OTM)2017-11-19 23:04:16
Huh. Well, the music Andrew posted is nice.

MHarru reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-04 01:36:42
Have to agree that Megamind was MUCH better.the Conrad cue though is is not at all Zimmer.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-11-03 17:50:36
Yes, itís definitely no Megamind, but I will say that after revisiting it; definitely not as disappointing to me as when I first heard. The issues I have are still the same (frenetic action, ADD-type scoring, Popeís cue being the strongest, etc.) but at the same time itís a very charming score when it slows the pace and lets the emotional side come forward. I will even give credit to the main theme(s), they actually get more development than Megamindís main tune. Itís a shame this score kinda got written off this year, itís enjoyable enough.

And as for the ďLoveĒ cue, that really is one of the most beautiful pieces of music Iíve heard in recent memory. Itís a great throwback to classical music with that John Williams string sound. I really wish Zimmer had written it, but understandably thatís not his style.

Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 18:29:00
Hans wanted Conrad to just be Conrad. He spent like 2 months on that only cue !

mpolonest123 2017-11-03 21:27:14
Really?!? Well it shows! Iím confused though, did Hans bring Conrad on board or was that the productionís decision?

Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 23:04:04
Hans !

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-25 19:26:29
no suite up for this one? :)

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Micah2017-05-25 19:35:43
Man, I loved this movie.

isildur reply Replies: 9 || 2017-04-07 20:22:45
Yo Hybrid, credits for this? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? Hans suites and Steve everything else? What about Conrad Pope?

Edmund Meinerts2017-04-07 20:41:18
I'd bet my left nut that "Love" is Pope.

Hybrid Soldier2017-04-08 04:05:52
Pope did Love indeed.

Mike782017-04-08 11:03:17
Love is amazing . He rest is not as good as megamind . Don't think zimmer gave 100% to this

c2017-04-08 13:57:25
Conrad Pope explains the cue on his facebook. They needed something more dynamic and classical-sounding.

The editor James Ryan also commented:

"Every screening for well over 2 years the last thing we would do was work on that scene and struggle to re-edit the temp. I've never worked on a scene in any movie that had so much riding on the music. The sigh of relief and joy when you delivered your masterpiece was something I will never forget. And watching you conduct it gave me the chills (and a few tears). Bravo!"

By far the strongest piece on the album. The rest is pretty forgettable.

Andrew272017-04-08 14:43:35
That's amazing to hear from the editor . Wish the rest of the score was as good as Popes piece.

Think Lego Batman is still best animation score this year . Was really looking forward to Boss Baby but seems generic .

Ds2017-04-08 15:08:27
You guys are right that "Love" is a great cue. But the rest of the score is just as good, with plenty of ideas and a very cool and memorable theme.

The issue is that this kind of scores requires some patience from the listeners, because it's too crazy, too packed, with so many twists and style variations it's difficult to fully grasp the whole thing after just a few listens.

It's just like any John Powell score for animation: absolutely great music that takes some time to fully digest. So please, give it a few more spins and some time to grow on you before you judge it!

Mike (OTM)2017-04-08 20:00:25
"Love" is an awesome cue and all. I really love it. But I don't understand: could no one at RCP have delivered something like this? Pope was obviously a good pick, but are Zimmer and co. truly incapable of arranging this type of thing?

mpolonest1232017-04-08 20:21:06
@Mike(OTM) Not necessarily, I feel like Richard Harvey could easily have delivered something in this vein. That being said, I'm sure the production team probably had their heart set on whatever temps they used for that scene (more likely than not something that Pope either composed or orchestrated) and decided to go directly to the man himself.

It is a bit strange that they would only bring him in to do one scene, as opposed to working alongside Hans and Steve throughout. But it's not unheard of, I guess.

Miguel2017-04-08 22:44:06
The only person at RCP that could do what Pope did was , is Balfe . Why didn't he get involved especially after the Megamind connection???

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-02 00:40:11
Hybrid, since you generally have an idea about this stuff, do you have a rough estimate of how composing duties/credits were divided here? Co-score all throughout? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? ;)

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-01 17:53:54
This Score Is Awsome, Hans Zimmer & Steve Mazzaro Work For The First Time And Additional Music By Cornad Pope. Is The Same Style Animated Movie Score Like Megamind With Lorne Balfe.
Can Wait To See The Boss Baby

Scorefan reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 22:00:04
Hans Zimmer and Conrad Pope in a film together would be awesome!!

Dino2017-03-31 09:56:35
Also add Balfe to that line up and that would be amazing

Jonathan Rochat reply Replies: 5 || 2017-03-24 14:04:27
Not bad! The "Love" cue has great orchestral moments. At least *** score after the first listen.

credit2017-03-26 10:46:03
So "Love" was obviously done by Conrad Pope. Never heard anyone from RCP write anything remotely close to that style.

But what about the rest of the score? I can hear a lot of Hans in the theme and the action material (a lot of his action riffs and stylings from megamind) but not sure which bits Mazzaro did.

iMe2017-03-26 14:15:20

Agreed with your comment on Conrad Pope's involvement.

Goes to show what Hans Zimmer's tunes can become if orchestrated and arranged by someone of Pope's caliber. I hope to see the duo collaborate more often.

Miguel2017-03-27 05:16:04
Conrad should have been the co composer with Hans I think !. I bet he contributed more than just that amazing cue .

Mike (OTM)2017-03-27 15:52:51
So I agree it's likely that Conrad Pope was involved with the "Love" cue, but watch what's gonna happen...

We're gonna find out that cue is 100% Zimmer, and we're all gonna have our minds blown. Cause honestly, that type of thing happens a lot. :P

Jonathan Rochat2017-03-27 16:24:51
Yes ok I then had a look at Conrad Pope. That guys has orchestrated "Jurassic Park" (and many many others) so yes it seems that the "love" cue could have been completely in his hand. And note this is the first Time Conrad Pope is credited as Additional composer here, maybe this is just because of that cue... Now we need to wait for Hybrid , maybe one day we will know the answer.

Anon reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:35:38
Who is Conrad Pope ? Is he RCP ?

Edmund Meinerts2017-03-27 09:51:25
He's done a few scores (Pavilion of Women is outstanding), but he's better known as a veteran orchestrator for many years for composers like John Williams, Alan Silvestri and Alexandre Desplat. In other words, he knows what he's doing. Quite unexpected for him to show up on an RCP score!

Antois reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 09:24:02
I don't think lego Batman soundtrack is overrated at all . Great emotion and themes . I found you is a great robin theme also .

Anto reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:24:39
No the best sad to say. Sounds like Hans didn't do much in it. Lego Batman is still winning for me this year for best score so far for sure

Dragonseeker2017-03-27 07:19:01
Lego Batman is the most overrated score this year to me. The Boss Baby is not amazing either imo, but it has a very clear thematic structure.

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 05:28:05
Not great . This is not Hans music unfortunately

Waymann reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-24 10:01:07
Great score, love the action cues and the constant use of main theme in different variations throughout the whole score. Honestly I prefer this one over the Lego Batman soundtrack...

Dudu2017-03-24 16:53:10
Same here!!
Loved that score and prefer it to lego batman. The main theme is cool, and there's an "out-of-nowhere" throwback to the 90s in the cue "barfmitzvah", what can I ask more??

FilmMuso2017-03-27 05:21:10
No way is it better than Lego Batman . This is Megamind basically . Lego Batman has interesting colors and has soul. Wouldn't mind more Conrad Pope collaborations though !

... reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-25 17:40:03
Never has there been so little interest in a Zimmer release. What'd you guys think?

I personally found it fun, but a tad loud :)

Mephariel2017-03-25 23:45:48
Fun score. But anything with Steve Mazzaro tends to be electronically overhanded and loud. Nice theme and nice soundscape building though.

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-24 12:59:24
Conrad Pope was here? That's surprising!

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-21 22:05:24
If you watch the live stream video on the official Dunkirk website they have some score which I would put money on is from Zimmer.

A fan reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-19 05:48:36
Can you put on some music from the album...I haven't heard of the music for a painful while

Ds2017-03-19 09:20:15
Samples are on iTunes!

Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simps2017-03-19 17:51:42
Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simpsons Movie.

Thanks Ds2017-03-20 02:26:40
It sounds like a fun score.

Mephariel2017-03-20 07:19:22
I like what I am hearing so far, especially the new theme. It is really nice to know that Zimmer likes to have fun once in a while.

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-18 12:45:07
Hans Zimmer And Steve Mazzaro Workings Together As Composer For The First Time In This Movie. Wow!, I Can Wait To Hear The Score And See The Movie

I Still Remember That Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe Working Together At Megamind With The Director By Tom McGrath ,The Bible & Son Of God.
I Got To Say Hans Zimmer Is The Best Composer I Ever Known And Hear His Music

Edmund Meinerts2017-03-19 22:13:33
Yeah, Zimmer and Mazzaro are working together far from the first time here, Mr. Useless Shitpost Man.

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-19 18:48:35
Sounds just like Megamind !

Tim2017-03-19 19:19:56
Do wish Hans would stop doing theses co writes . They don't sound his usual standard . Not very original this score

SamMusix reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-18 01:52:26
Lame - why didn't Hans and Lorne work on this

mpolonest123 2017-03-18 03:09:25
Why is it lame? Have you heard it yet?

Give it a chance, Steve Mazzaro has shown some promise in the past and has never really had a chance to show his talents in a more solo effort. Between this and Pirates, it'll be cool to hear his more orchestral side.

Hell, I still remember when Lorne Balfe was first breaking away from his co-composer status and people were hating on him...

Hybrid Soldier2017-03-18 10:39:50
Hey Lorne is not a puppy waiting lol... He has a career, he is not spinning around what Hans does anymore !

Mike (Longtime Visitor Mike/Old Timer Mike) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-17 22:40:53
52 minutes of score? My, Hans' releases have improved since the days of Madagascar! And Mazzaro is a co-composer? This will be interesting!

(Sorry about the long name, btw. There being other "Mikes" here necessitated a way to identify myself. I was the only one for a long time. xD)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-04 00:02:15
New Hans OST coming soon !

Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-04 00:26:09

Mephariel2017-03-04 10:59:19
When did Zimmer work on this score? Right after Hidden Figures?

Hybrid Soldier2017-03-04 12:02:52
Yeah second half of last year. Hidden Figures was being recorded in August.

Michael 2017-03-04 12:33:09
I take it Lorne also worked on it ? Hope so© 2001-2017 OST 
The Boss Baby soundtrack - Hans Zimmer - Steve Mazzaro 2017