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The score is already on itunes.This score... so many mixed emotions. Does it work for the film? Heck yeah. Does it improve the film? So much so. Did Hans do what he set out to do? Totally. Is it an award winning masterpiece? Um, not so fast.<br><br>Dunkirk, while super effective within the context of the film (I wouldnít change a thing about it), I must admit, it doesnít have nearly the same effect as a stand-alone listen. Itís literally the same textures and notes over and over again, just slightly rising and falling in pitch and tempo. Does that make it ďawardĒ worthy? Iím not sure. If based solely on the film, you betcha. If based purely on the music itself, I donít think so. Thatís where Interstellar succeeds so far and away over Dunkirk. As a pure listening experience, Interstellar is interesting, multi-layered and emotional. Whereas Dunkirk is just flat, void of any sort of feeling or ďactualĒ music (again, works IN the film). Itís glorified sound FX (save for the end, which, no doubt, is in large part to Ben).<br><br>Hmm... Iíve never had a score tear me apart more than this one. I both love it and hate it. Maybe it did itís job... lol.<br><br>Excuse me while I go listen to No Time for Caution yet again.I think most of us agree that he should've won for Interstellar but I think Dunkirk deserves it too. The work Hans and the music department did on this movie is just incredible. Must've been a lot of hard work. <br>An award is an award, Hans' 2nd Oscar is long overdue so I'd be glad to see him win. But it would be weird to see him win for THAT score, after all the greatnesses of the past 20 years. Same thing with Morricone who won his only Oscar for his very light and insignificant work on Hateful Eight. Good for the man, good for the fans, but doesn't really make sense. But have Oscars ever made sense? :-phaha hybrid :D made my day
Hybrid, yes!wow man, hybrid. this isn't right from you. actually really embarrasing and an absolute no-go from a staff/member of this site to write such a comment. even if it's a joke, this is a shame and sad.I was a bit over the line, I admit. I should have made it clearer that all of that "hottest shit in town" bit was meant purely as a part of my personal opinion regarding his output. I never saw or read any interviews with him. <br><br>I also know about his wife, of course... but I guess I'm just too cynical to accept it as an all-encompasing excuse while seeing such massive fanbase clamoring for his new music. I don't know, I admittedly feel a bit bad about what I'm saying myself. I AM an asshole, sure, but only to an extent. <br><br>I think that saying "he is writing scores that he feels comfortable with" and "living his life however he wants", albeit understandable, is still ignoring the fact that he is an artist with a fanbase. We are living in a time when film composers are slowly getting a mainstream recognition as a type of musicians comparable to bands or singers. And that creates a certain responsibility towards that fanbase. An artist doesn't have to fulfill it, sure, but he should at the very least acknowledge and address it.<br><br>Which brings to mind an image of Hans going on a massive tour whilst giving zero fucks about the CD presentation of his scores, but I digress.<br><br>I wouldn't dare giving Powell advices about how to deal with a pain of the loved one's loss. But on the other hand, I strongly believe in artist's responsibility towards the fans. <br><br>For example, that's why I would kick everybody saying "GRRM is not your bitch" right in the goddamn nuts.Now I have ONE true reason to want this score to win !<br><br>PEACE ! lolI stand corrected. Though it's still possible that the score is a combination of live orchestra and samples, a lot of RCP music does that.
Ds beat me to a few of the points I was going to make, so thanks. :) I'll try to keep this brief, but it won't be.<br><br>Macejko, the only part of your statement that I would 100%, strongly, absolutely disagree with is the "pretentious douche" part. When has he ever "acted like the hottest shit in town"? Do we have any record of him actually refusing assignments? I mean, clearly his output has slowed down since 2012, but why do you act like he's doing that because he thinks he's better than everyone else? I don't see that as pretentious. Especially not given what we know about his personal circumstances. For all we know his decision to take on less work was caused by the knowledge that his wife was sick and wanting to spend as much time with her and with their son as he could. You really still want to call him pretentious?<br><br>Now, what I do agree with is the impression that Powell is no longer really developing as an artist. He's found his niche and is writing scores that he feels comfortable with, but I haven't been "surprised" by anything he's written since probably 2010 or 2011. Is that a problem? Well, depends on what your priorities are. I don't rate innovation as highly as I do music that speaks to me on an emotional level, that I love listening to and want to hear over and over again. And with scores like Pan and HTTYD2 Powell has definitely provided that, while Hans Zimmer for all of the "pushing the envelope" and "breaking boundaries" he's done (or claimed to have done) in the last 7, 8 years has in the process left behind many of the things that made me love his music in the first place. He's written some fine and certainly interesting scores in those years (and some I never want to hear again), but I'd throw out every single one of them to hear another At World's End or King Arthur, just a big old epic larger-than-life fun time that cares more about entertaining you than trying to musically divide by zero or whatever. But now I'm turning this into a Powell vs. Zimmer argument which was never really my intention. :p<br><br>At the same time I can't pretend that it doesn't hurt to see how much Powell has slowed down. I mean his run of form from 2003-2011 is the stuff of legend, 3-4 scores a year in all sorts of different genres, all of it quality stuff. He was pretty much hitting the sweet spot: innovating, developing his style, trying out new things but not sacrificing his voice or the accessibility of his music. If he were to keep up that trajectory for a career spanning several decades he'd be in contention for greatest of all time IMO. Sadly it doesn't look like that's going to happen anymore. I think it's a fair criticism to say he's dropped off, or at the very least leveled out. I just don't think it's fair to call him pretentious for doing so. The man's a human being and he has the right to live his life however he wants.But you know he never said he has nothing to prove. I don't think he even think such a thing, actually he seems like a very humble and nice guy, much like Hans. I just tell you this based on all the great things he did in many genres throughout his career.<br><br>I guess he just want to write music he likes and the way he likes it. Many producers/directors want something more restrained for their movies, that's ok, they can get someone else. If you can afford doing what you like for a living, why the hell would you accept jobs you don't like?<br><br>And SW isn't about "creativity", it's just about this kind of busy orchestral music with lots of frenetic parts which Powell seems to really like these days.If only every annoying film music fan would be so willing to take his own life as this one...If this nominated for golden globe or even Oscar and win the title I'll kill my self.<br><br>This score is nothing compared to interstellar or even to POTC 3.The moment an artist thinks he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead. <br><br>Also, thinking that only animation and Star Wars provide a field for any kind of innovation and experimentation is just ludicrous beyond words, Ds. SW especially is the most musically restricted franchise on the planet.
Fair point. Just look at what Balfe did this year, Lego Batman, Churchill, Genius, The Crown, Geostorm... and all are somewhat different in tone. He was on fire this year for sure.Here is another comparison which to me seems more relevant than yours :<br>Lorne is doing a lot of projects and getting better and better in various styles.<br>And Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity. I'm not saying he doesn't evolve, but at this rate he will need 3 lifes to catch up on Balfe's current level.<br><br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres and is now able to write the music he likes most : crazy orchestral pieces where nothing is forbidden. Today, only animated movies allow this style of scores to exist. And also Star Wars :-pEdmund wrong again !!!!!balfe posted some photos of the recording sessions for the crown^ lol. Harsh, but heís not wrong. Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion.I must admit I'm starting to think of Powell as sort of a pretentious douche. All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him, and when he finally descends from his golden throne and graces us peasants with a new score for his beloved kiddie animated genre, even then he doesn't handle the majority of the score himself.<br>This might be a fun score, I'm sure it's gonna be, but I'm also pretty sure that it's going to sound like every other Powell score from the last 6 or so years. The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ. Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better.
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The Boss Baby
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  1. Survival Of The Fittest (2:24)
  2. Baby Brother (3:58)
  3. Welcome To Baby Corp (3:12)
  4. You Can't Get Away From Johnny Law (2:11)
  5. We Can Buy A Bouncy House (3:18)
  6. Super Colossal Big Fat Boss Baby (1:11)
  7. Barfmitzvah (2:11)
  8. Toodaloo Toilet-Head! (4:02)
  9. I Wish You Were Never Born (2:53)
  10. Puppy Co. (3:27)
  11. You Want To Hug Me, Don't You? (3:20)
  12. Arrrggh (2:01)
  13. Francis Francis (4:19)
  14. You're Fired (4:28)
  15. Upsies! I Need Upsies! (1:44)
  16. Love (5:17)
  17. Go Get Yourself A Horse (2:19)
  18. What The World Needs Now Is Love - Missi Hale (4:15)
  19. Cheek To Cheek (From the Motion Picture "Top Hat") - Fred Astaire (5:01)
  20. (Every Time I Turn Around) Back In Love Again - L.T.D. (4:40)
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Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-20 01:49:04
The Sierra Leone track Andrew K posted (link below)...I almost wonder if that's how 2010s Zimmer would redo The Lion King. More bass, more minimalist, more Interstellar...but still with an African flare.

Felix reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-18 18:35:40
Andrew loaded some cues to the movie "The Last Face" up on his soundcloud page, go & check it :)

soundcloud.com/andrewkawczynski/sets/the-last-face


...2017-11-19 02:46:45
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.


Hal2017-11-19 13:03:31
Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:25:47
I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...


Hal2017-11-19 13:43:44
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of sounds


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:49:07
Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...


Mike (OTM)2017-11-19 23:04:16
Huh. Well, the music Andrew posted is nice.

MHarru reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-04 01:36:42
Have to agree that Megamind was MUCH better.the Conrad cue though is amazing.rest is not at all Zimmer.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-11-03 17:50:36
Yes, itís definitely no Megamind, but I will say that after revisiting it; definitely not as disappointing to me as when I first heard. The issues I have are still the same (frenetic action, ADD-type scoring, Popeís cue being the strongest, etc.) but at the same time itís a very charming score when it slows the pace and lets the emotional side come forward. I will even give credit to the main theme(s), they actually get more development than Megamindís main tune. Itís a shame this score kinda got written off this year, itís enjoyable enough.

And as for the ďLoveĒ cue, that really is one of the most beautiful pieces of music Iíve heard in recent memory. Itís a great throwback to classical music with that John Williams string sound. I really wish Zimmer had written it, but understandably thatís not his style.


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 18:29:00
Hans wanted Conrad to just be Conrad. He spent like 2 months on that only cue !


mpolonest123 2017-11-03 21:27:14
Really?!? Well it shows! Iím confused though, did Hans bring Conrad on board or was that the productionís decision?


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 23:04:04
Hans !

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-25 19:26:29
no suite up for this one? :)


Micah2017-05-25 19:35:43
Man, I loved this movie.

isildur reply Replies: 9 || 2017-04-07 20:22:45
Yo Hybrid, credits for this? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? Hans suites and Steve everything else? What about Conrad Pope?


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-07 20:41:18
I'd bet my left nut that "Love" is Pope.


Hybrid Soldier2017-04-08 04:05:52
Pope did Love indeed.


Mike782017-04-08 11:03:17
Love is amazing . He rest is not as good as megamind . Don't think zimmer gave 100% to this


c2017-04-08 13:57:25
Conrad Pope explains the cue on his facebook. They needed something more dynamic and classical-sounding.

The editor James Ryan also commented:

"Every screening for well over 2 years the last thing we would do was work on that scene and struggle to re-edit the temp. I've never worked on a scene in any movie that had so much riding on the music. The sigh of relief and joy when you delivered your masterpiece was something I will never forget. And watching you conduct it gave me the chills (and a few tears). Bravo!"

By far the strongest piece on the album. The rest is pretty forgettable.


Andrew272017-04-08 14:43:35
That's amazing to hear from the editor . Wish the rest of the score was as good as Popes piece.

Think Lego Batman is still best animation score this year . Was really looking forward to Boss Baby but seems generic .


Ds2017-04-08 15:08:27
You guys are right that "Love" is a great cue. But the rest of the score is just as good, with plenty of ideas and a very cool and memorable theme.

The issue is that this kind of scores requires some patience from the listeners, because it's too crazy, too packed, with so many twists and style variations it's difficult to fully grasp the whole thing after just a few listens.

It's just like any John Powell score for animation: absolutely great music that takes some time to fully digest. So please, give it a few more spins and some time to grow on you before you judge it!


Mike (OTM)2017-04-08 20:00:25
"Love" is an awesome cue and all. I really love it. But I don't understand: could no one at RCP have delivered something like this? Pope was obviously a good pick, but are Zimmer and co. truly incapable of arranging this type of thing?


mpolonest1232017-04-08 20:21:06
@Mike(OTM) Not necessarily, I feel like Richard Harvey could easily have delivered something in this vein. That being said, I'm sure the production team probably had their heart set on whatever temps they used for that scene (more likely than not something that Pope either composed or orchestrated) and decided to go directly to the man himself.

It is a bit strange that they would only bring him in to do one scene, as opposed to working alongside Hans and Steve throughout. But it's not unheard of, I guess.


Miguel2017-04-08 22:44:06
The only person at RCP that could do what Pope did was , is Balfe . Why didn't he get involved especially after the Megamind connection???

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-02 00:40:11
Hybrid, since you generally have an idea about this stuff, do you have a rough estimate of how composing duties/credits were divided here? Co-score all throughout? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? ;)

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-01 17:53:54
This Score Is Awsome, Hans Zimmer & Steve Mazzaro Work For The First Time And Additional Music By Cornad Pope. Is The Same Style Animated Movie Score Like Megamind With Lorne Balfe.
Can Wait To See The Boss Baby

Scorefan reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 22:00:04
Hans Zimmer and Conrad Pope in a film together would be awesome!!


Dino2017-03-31 09:56:35
Also add Balfe to that line up and that would be amazing

Jonathan Rochat reply Replies: 5 || 2017-03-24 14:04:27
Not bad! The "Love" cue has great orchestral moments. At least *** score after the first listen.


credit2017-03-26 10:46:03
So "Love" was obviously done by Conrad Pope. Never heard anyone from RCP write anything remotely close to that style.

But what about the rest of the score? I can hear a lot of Hans in the theme and the action material (a lot of his action riffs and stylings from megamind) but not sure which bits Mazzaro did.


iMe2017-03-26 14:15:20
@credit

Agreed with your comment on Conrad Pope's involvement.

Goes to show what Hans Zimmer's tunes can become if orchestrated and arranged by someone of Pope's caliber. I hope to see the duo collaborate more often.


Miguel2017-03-27 05:16:04
Conrad should have been the co composer with Hans I think !. I bet he contributed more than just that amazing cue .


Mike (OTM)2017-03-27 15:52:51
So I agree it's likely that Conrad Pope was involved with the "Love" cue, but watch what's gonna happen...

We're gonna find out that cue is 100% Zimmer, and we're all gonna have our minds blown. Cause honestly, that type of thing happens a lot. :P


Jonathan Rochat2017-03-27 16:24:51
Yes ok I then had a look at Conrad Pope. That guys has orchestrated "Jurassic Park" (and many many others) so yes it seems that the "love" cue could have been completely in his hand. And note this is the first Time Conrad Pope is credited as Additional composer here, maybe this is just because of that cue... Now we need to wait for Hybrid , maybe one day we will know the answer.

Anon reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:35:38
Who is Conrad Pope ? Is he RCP ?

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Edmund Meinerts2017-03-27 09:51:25
He's done a few scores (Pavilion of Women is outstanding), but he's better known as a veteran orchestrator for many years for composers like John Williams, Alan Silvestri and Alexandre Desplat. In other words, he knows what he's doing. Quite unexpected for him to show up on an RCP score!

Antois reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 09:24:02
I don't think lego Batman soundtrack is overrated at all . Great emotion and themes . I found you is a great robin theme also .

Anto reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:24:39
No the best sad to say. Sounds like Hans didn't do much in it. Lego Batman is still winning for me this year for best score so far for sure


Dragonseeker2017-03-27 07:19:01
Lego Batman is the most overrated score this year to me. The Boss Baby is not amazing either imo, but it has a very clear thematic structure.

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 05:28:05
Not great . This is not Hans music unfortunately

Waymann reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-24 10:01:07
Great score, love the action cues and the constant use of main theme in different variations throughout the whole score. Honestly I prefer this one over the Lego Batman soundtrack...


Dudu2017-03-24 16:53:10
Same here!!
Loved that score and prefer it to lego batman. The main theme is cool, and there's an "out-of-nowhere" throwback to the 90s in the cue "barfmitzvah", what can I ask more??


FilmMuso2017-03-27 05:21:10
No way is it better than Lego Batman . This is Megamind basically . Lego Batman has interesting colors and has soul. Wouldn't mind more Conrad Pope collaborations though !

... reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-25 17:40:03
Never has there been so little interest in a Zimmer release. What'd you guys think?

I personally found it fun, but a tad loud :)


Mephariel2017-03-25 23:45:48
Fun score. But anything with Steve Mazzaro tends to be electronically overhanded and loud. Nice theme and nice soundscape building though.

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-24 12:59:24
Conrad Pope was here? That's surprising!

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-21 22:05:24
If you watch the live stream video on the official Dunkirk website they have some score which I would put money on is from Zimmer.

A fan reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-19 05:48:36
Can you put on some music from the album...I haven't heard of the music for a painful while


Ds2017-03-19 09:20:15
Samples are on iTunes!


Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simps2017-03-19 17:51:42
Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simpsons Movie.


Thanks Ds2017-03-20 02:26:40
It sounds like a fun score.


Mephariel2017-03-20 07:19:22
I like what I am hearing so far, especially the new theme. It is really nice to know that Zimmer likes to have fun once in a while.

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-18 12:45:07
Hans Zimmer And Steve Mazzaro Workings Together As Composer For The First Time In This Movie. Wow!, I Can Wait To Hear The Score And See The Movie

I Still Remember That Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe Working Together At Megamind With The Director By Tom McGrath ,The Bible & Son Of God.
I Got To Say Hans Zimmer Is The Best Composer I Ever Known And Hear His Music


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-19 22:13:33
Yeah, Zimmer and Mazzaro are working together far from the first time here, Mr. Useless Shitpost Man.

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-19 18:48:35
Sounds just like Megamind !


Tim2017-03-19 19:19:56
Do wish Hans would stop doing theses co writes . They don't sound his usual standard . Not very original this score

SamMusix reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-18 01:52:26
Lame - why didn't Hans and Lorne work on this


mpolonest123 2017-03-18 03:09:25
Why is it lame? Have you heard it yet?

Give it a chance, Steve Mazzaro has shown some promise in the past and has never really had a chance to show his talents in a more solo effort. Between this and Pirates, it'll be cool to hear his more orchestral side.

Hell, I still remember when Lorne Balfe was first breaking away from his co-composer status and people were hating on him...


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-18 10:39:50
Hey Lorne is not a puppy waiting lol... He has a career, he is not spinning around what Hans does anymore !

Mike (Longtime Visitor Mike/Old Timer Mike) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-17 22:40:53
52 minutes of score? My, Hans' releases have improved since the days of Madagascar! And Mazzaro is a co-composer? This will be interesting!

(Sorry about the long name, btw. There being other "Mikes" here necessitated a way to identify myself. I was the only one for a long time. xD)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-04 00:02:15
New Hans OST coming soon !


Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-04 00:26:09
Great!


Mephariel2017-03-04 10:59:19
When did Zimmer work on this score? Right after Hidden Figures?


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-04 12:02:52
Yeah second half of last year. Hidden Figures was being recorded in August.


Michael 2017-03-04 12:33:09
I take it Lorne also worked on it ? Hope so

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