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Yeah, this is the best RCP action score of the year so far. Much better than Balfe's efforts and Junkie's.@superultramega Itís funny you should say that about Rogue One because, even though I do like the themes, I will agree that it definitely is weaker than any Star Wars score and seems to lack the life Giacchino normally puts into his music.<br><br>Even weirder, his music for Jupiter Ascending (another big space opera) is far more aggressive and developed, and probably one of his best. It makes me wonder if the Star Wars team wanted the safe route....Ok, not restraint on drums, but I still don't really see how exactly his music for animated films comes even close to being an RC product. When I think of RC I think of the music for the Pirates movies, the early Bay and Bruckheimer films, etc. The work on Shrek, Antz, Ice Age, and How to Train Your Dragon is much closer to a traditional Williams score than any RC product. <br><br>Plus he's working on Star Wars so he's obviously going to try his damnedest to stick to that kind of music, and to avoid the Zimmer style. I just don't understand why you think Powell, of all people is going to be the one to dilute the Star Wars sound. <br><br>Hell, I think Giacchino's score for Rogue One was pretty much nothing more than an unmemorable, and bland version of Star Wars with very little going on besides broken down notes of the Star Wars theme playing and generic Williams copy. Just like Jurassic World. I don't know how Giacchino makes Williams' style bland but he finds a way. At least with Powell we'll get more style and memorability on top of a Williams imitation.Restraint on drums? <br><br>Have you listened to Green Zone? The Bourne movies? Hancock?<br><br>Cmon...Yeah he's not Zimmer, but this isn't a Williams product we are talking about. It's an RC product. This is what I am talking about.People like Harry Gregson, Jablonsky and Zanelli, despite their melodic tendinsies, would be people chosen for going the Zimmer route. I think Jablonsky's is the closest to Star Wars but even then there's a ton of power themes, and Zimmer hallmarks that keep him away from this sort of style. <br><br>Powell is the last person I would associate with Zimmer. His techniques are very much in vain with the Williams-like composers, like Alexandre Desplat and Michael Giacchino. The complex underscore, the rapid notes, the restraint on drums, instrument variety, the jazz techniques, etc. He's the perfect RCP composer for the job.
Of all RCP members, I think he is the one closest to Williams and Star Wars sound, so I think this score will be pure orchestral fun, like most of his scores usually are.<br><br>I cannot wait to listen to it!Well, I guess that is a matter of tastes and opinion, because for me scores like The Incredibles or Up, for saying some examples, are classics inside the animation field.<br><br>But is fine. We have our own preferences and that's okay.Me too! Very fun and ę†guilty pleasure†Ľ score<br>After listening to this one and Todo Mal, I think Andrew is a really versatile composer, both scores are really entertaining and yet have nothing to do with each otherI like this score, altough i think it will fly (get it) under the radar..<br>Hope Andrew continues making scores like thisIMO, though Powell was Hans'protegee 20 years ago, he always had his very own style. And this style evolved so much through these decades you can't really connect any more his mannerisms to those of people at RCP!
You can't call Powell "the Zimmer route". He's written some of the densest, flashiest orchestral film music of the last 10+ years!And how is that a bad thing? :-p<br>John Powell is an excellent choice to have both a big sounding and fun RCP score, and an orchestral one which would fit with the previously established style.Cant say Im 100% invested.....<br><br>This will be the first Star Wars score to go the Zimmer route...Well maybe you guys are right, to be honest i never cared much about this composer. All i know is that i almost never noticed any kind of theme when watching movies scored by him, while usually I'm the kind of audience who pays attention to the music. It can be that his way of writing or orchestrating or mixing doesnt match with my own taste, that's a possibility. Anyway I still maintain that none of his scores or themes has become a "classic", despite the ridiculous amount of major blockbusters he had the chance to score so far...home is very very soothing. (i sound like i have said it before lol) 
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<br>itís the one cue i can listen to a zillion times and never get tired of. i hope upcoming movies will give Hans or whoever in remote control an opportunity to do similar cues. elisabeth in inferno is the closest but is so short.
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<br>i have mellowed. i love these mellow cues.
John Powell stated on his Instagram that the album will have 19 tracks, and be over an hour!Its not a film, its an album. This was still during the days of Hans' involvement with 'The Buggles'.I don't think you have listened to the Star Trek scores properly. Giacchino has a main theme that he uses a lot, but also a theme for Spock, themes for the bad guys of each movie and even a theme for the city of Yorktown in the third movie.<br><br>Another great example of this is LOST, where almost all the characters had a theme that played through all the series and there were also themes for locations or even situations.<br><br>So I don't think Giacchino is out of the use of themes.I mean sure, but I can't think of many Giacchino scores that actually match that description. The Star Trek reboot scores for example, where he has a (pretty good) main theme that he plays the same way roughly sixteen thousand times over and over again. :pFor me, a theme is a distinguishable motif or piece of music that is related to a specific location, event or most commonly character, and that the viewer notices as such. If your score contains 20 themes that are never repeated in a similar form and are so uncharacteristic that they all sound the same, I'm just calling that orchestra noise. And I don't see any appeal in that kind of scoring...
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The Boss Baby
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  1. Survival Of The Fittest (2:24)
  2. Baby Brother (3:58)
  3. Welcome To Baby Corp (3:12)
  4. You Can't Get Away From Johnny Law (2:11)
  5. We Can Buy A Bouncy House (3:18)
  6. Super Colossal Big Fat Boss Baby (1:11)
  7. Barfmitzvah (2:11)
  8. Toodaloo Toilet-Head! (4:02)
  9. I Wish You Were Never Born (2:53)
  10. Puppy Co. (3:27)
  11. You Want To Hug Me, Don't You? (3:20)
  12. Arrrggh (2:01)
  13. Francis Francis (4:19)
  14. You're Fired (4:28)
  15. Upsies! I Need Upsies! (1:44)
  16. Love (5:17)
  17. Go Get Yourself A Horse (2:19)
  18. What The World Needs Now Is Love - Missi Hale (4:15)
  19. Cheek To Cheek (From the Motion Picture "Top Hat") - Fred Astaire (5:01)
  20. (Every Time I Turn Around) Back In Love Again - L.T.D. (4:40)
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dariya den reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-27 13:56:01
love

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-20 01:49:04
The Sierra Leone track Andrew K posted (link below)...I almost wonder if that's how 2010s Zimmer would redo The Lion King. More bass, more minimalist, more Interstellar...but still with an African flare.

Felix reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-18 18:35:40
Andrew loaded some cues to the movie "The Last Face" up on his soundcloud page, go & check it :)

soundcloud.com/andrewkawczynski/sets/the-last-face


...2017-11-19 02:46:45
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.


Hal2017-11-19 13:03:31
Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:25:47
I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...


Hal2017-11-19 13:43:44
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of sounds


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:49:07
Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...


Mike (OTM)2017-11-19 23:04:16
Huh. Well, the music Andrew posted is nice.

MHarru reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-04 01:36:42
Have to agree that Megamind was MUCH better.the Conrad cue though is amazing.rest is not at all Zimmer.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-11-03 17:50:36
Yes, itís definitely no Megamind, but I will say that after revisiting it; definitely not as disappointing to me as when I first heard. The issues I have are still the same (frenetic action, ADD-type scoring, Popeís cue being the strongest, etc.) but at the same time itís a very charming score when it slows the pace and lets the emotional side come forward. I will even give credit to the main theme(s), they actually get more development than Megamindís main tune. Itís a shame this score kinda got written off this year, itís enjoyable enough.

And as for the ďLoveĒ cue, that really is one of the most beautiful pieces of music Iíve heard in recent memory. Itís a great throwback to classical music with that John Williams string sound. I really wish Zimmer had written it, but understandably thatís not his style.


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 18:29:00
Hans wanted Conrad to just be Conrad. He spent like 2 months on that only cue !


mpolonest123 2017-11-03 21:27:14
Really?!? Well it shows! Iím confused though, did Hans bring Conrad on board or was that the productionís decision?


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 23:04:04
Hans !

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-25 19:26:29
no suite up for this one? :)


Micah2017-05-25 19:35:43
Man, I loved this movie.

isildur reply Replies: 9 || 2017-04-07 20:22:45
Yo Hybrid, credits for this? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? Hans suites and Steve everything else? What about Conrad Pope?


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-07 20:41:18
I'd bet my left nut that "Love" is Pope.


Hybrid Soldier2017-04-08 04:05:52
Pope did Love indeed.


Mike782017-04-08 11:03:17
Love is amazing . He rest is not as good as megamind . Don't think zimmer gave 100% to this


c2017-04-08 13:57:25
Conrad Pope explains the cue on his facebook. They needed something more dynamic and classical-sounding.

The editor James Ryan also commented:

"Every screening for well over 2 years the last thing we would do was work on that scene and struggle to re-edit the temp. I've never worked on a scene in any movie that had so much riding on the music. The sigh of relief and joy when you delivered your masterpiece was something I will never forget. And watching you conduct it gave me the chills (and a few tears). Bravo!"

By far the strongest piece on the album. The rest is pretty forgettable.


Andrew272017-04-08 14:43:35
That's amazing to hear from the editor . Wish the rest of the score was as good as Popes piece.

Think Lego Batman is still best animation score this year . Was really looking forward to Boss Baby but seems generic .


Ds2017-04-08 15:08:27
You guys are right that "Love" is a great cue. But the rest of the score is just as good, with plenty of ideas and a very cool and memorable theme.

The issue is that this kind of scores requires some patience from the listeners, because it's too crazy, too packed, with so many twists and style variations it's difficult to fully grasp the whole thing after just a few listens.

It's just like any John Powell score for animation: absolutely great music that takes some time to fully digest. So please, give it a few more spins and some time to grow on you before you judge it!


Mike (OTM)2017-04-08 20:00:25
"Love" is an awesome cue and all. I really love it. But I don't understand: could no one at RCP have delivered something like this? Pope was obviously a good pick, but are Zimmer and co. truly incapable of arranging this type of thing?


mpolonest1232017-04-08 20:21:06
@Mike(OTM) Not necessarily, I feel like Richard Harvey could easily have delivered something in this vein. That being said, I'm sure the production team probably had their heart set on whatever temps they used for that scene (more likely than not something that Pope either composed or orchestrated) and decided to go directly to the man himself.

It is a bit strange that they would only bring him in to do one scene, as opposed to working alongside Hans and Steve throughout. But it's not unheard of, I guess.


Miguel2017-04-08 22:44:06
The only person at RCP that could do what Pope did was , is Balfe . Why didn't he get involved especially after the Megamind connection???

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-02 00:40:11
Hybrid, since you generally have an idea about this stuff, do you have a rough estimate of how composing duties/credits were divided here? Co-score all throughout? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? ;)

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-01 17:53:54
This Score Is Awsome, Hans Zimmer & Steve Mazzaro Work For The First Time And Additional Music By Cornad Pope. Is The Same Style Animated Movie Score Like Megamind With Lorne Balfe.
Can Wait To See The Boss Baby

Scorefan reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 22:00:04
Hans Zimmer and Conrad Pope in a film together would be awesome!!


Dino2017-03-31 09:56:35
Also add Balfe to that line up and that would be amazing

Jonathan Rochat reply Replies: 5 || 2017-03-24 14:04:27
Not bad! The "Love" cue has great orchestral moments. At least *** score after the first listen.


credit2017-03-26 10:46:03
So "Love" was obviously done by Conrad Pope. Never heard anyone from RCP write anything remotely close to that style.

But what about the rest of the score? I can hear a lot of Hans in the theme and the action material (a lot of his action riffs and stylings from megamind) but not sure which bits Mazzaro did.


iMe2017-03-26 14:15:20
@credit

Agreed with your comment on Conrad Pope's involvement.

Goes to show what Hans Zimmer's tunes can become if orchestrated and arranged by someone of Pope's caliber. I hope to see the duo collaborate more often.


Miguel2017-03-27 05:16:04
Conrad should have been the co composer with Hans I think !. I bet he contributed more than just that amazing cue .


Mike (OTM)2017-03-27 15:52:51
So I agree it's likely that Conrad Pope was involved with the "Love" cue, but watch what's gonna happen...

We're gonna find out that cue is 100% Zimmer, and we're all gonna have our minds blown. Cause honestly, that type of thing happens a lot. :P


Jonathan Rochat2017-03-27 16:24:51
Yes ok I then had a look at Conrad Pope. That guys has orchestrated "Jurassic Park" (and many many others) so yes it seems that the "love" cue could have been completely in his hand. And note this is the first Time Conrad Pope is credited as Additional composer here, maybe this is just because of that cue... Now we need to wait for Hybrid , maybe one day we will know the answer.

Anon reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:35:38
Who is Conrad Pope ? Is he RCP ?


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-27 09:51:25
He's done a few scores (Pavilion of Women is outstanding), but he's better known as a veteran orchestrator for many years for composers like John Williams, Alan Silvestri and Alexandre Desplat. In other words, he knows what he's doing. Quite unexpected for him to show up on an RCP score!

Antois reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 09:24:02
I don't think lego Batman soundtrack is overrated at all . Great emotion and themes . I found you is a great robin theme also .

Anto reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:24:39
No the best sad to say. Sounds like Hans didn't do much in it. Lego Batman is still winning for me this year for best score so far for sure


Dragonseeker2017-03-27 07:19:01
Lego Batman is the most overrated score this year to me. The Boss Baby is not amazing either imo, but it has a very clear thematic structure.

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 05:28:05
Not great . This is not Hans music unfortunately

Waymann reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-24 10:01:07
Great score, love the action cues and the constant use of main theme in different variations throughout the whole score. Honestly I prefer this one over the Lego Batman soundtrack...


Dudu2017-03-24 16:53:10
Same here!!
Loved that score and prefer it to lego batman. The main theme is cool, and there's an "out-of-nowhere" throwback to the 90s in the cue "barfmitzvah", what can I ask more??


FilmMuso2017-03-27 05:21:10
No way is it better than Lego Batman . This is Megamind basically . Lego Batman has interesting colors and has soul. Wouldn't mind more Conrad Pope collaborations though !

... reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-25 17:40:03
Never has there been so little interest in a Zimmer release. What'd you guys think?

I personally found it fun, but a tad loud :)


Mephariel2017-03-25 23:45:48
Fun score. But anything with Steve Mazzaro tends to be electronically overhanded and loud. Nice theme and nice soundscape building though.

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-24 12:59:24
Conrad Pope was here? That's surprising!

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-21 22:05:24
If you watch the live stream video on the official Dunkirk website they have some score which I would put money on is from Zimmer.

A fan reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-19 05:48:36
Can you put on some music from the album...I haven't heard of the music for a painful while


Ds2017-03-19 09:20:15
Samples are on iTunes!


Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simps2017-03-19 17:51:42
Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simpsons Movie.


Thanks Ds2017-03-20 02:26:40
It sounds like a fun score.


Mephariel2017-03-20 07:19:22
I like what I am hearing so far, especially the new theme. It is really nice to know that Zimmer likes to have fun once in a while.

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-18 12:45:07
Hans Zimmer And Steve Mazzaro Workings Together As Composer For The First Time In This Movie. Wow!, I Can Wait To Hear The Score And See The Movie

I Still Remember That Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe Working Together At Megamind With The Director By Tom McGrath ,The Bible & Son Of God.
I Got To Say Hans Zimmer Is The Best Composer I Ever Known And Hear His Music


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-19 22:13:33
Yeah, Zimmer and Mazzaro are working together far from the first time here, Mr. Useless Shitpost Man.

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-19 18:48:35
Sounds just like Megamind !


Tim2017-03-19 19:19:56
Do wish Hans would stop doing theses co writes . They don't sound his usual standard . Not very original this score

SamMusix reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-18 01:52:26
Lame - why didn't Hans and Lorne work on this


mpolonest123 2017-03-18 03:09:25
Why is it lame? Have you heard it yet?

Give it a chance, Steve Mazzaro has shown some promise in the past and has never really had a chance to show his talents in a more solo effort. Between this and Pirates, it'll be cool to hear his more orchestral side.

Hell, I still remember when Lorne Balfe was first breaking away from his co-composer status and people were hating on him...


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-18 10:39:50
Hey Lorne is not a puppy waiting lol... He has a career, he is not spinning around what Hans does anymore !

Mike (Longtime Visitor Mike/Old Timer Mike) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-17 22:40:53
52 minutes of score? My, Hans' releases have improved since the days of Madagascar! And Mazzaro is a co-composer? This will be interesting!

(Sorry about the long name, btw. There being other "Mikes" here necessitated a way to identify myself. I was the only one for a long time. xD)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-04 00:02:15
New Hans OST coming soon !

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Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-04 00:26:09
Great!


Mephariel2017-03-04 10:59:19
When did Zimmer work on this score? Right after Hidden Figures?


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-04 12:02:52
Yeah second half of last year. Hidden Figures was being recorded in August.


Michael 2017-03-04 12:33:09
I take it Lorne also worked on it ? Hope so

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