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I'm with Edmund in that I'd love for Hans to win more Oscars, but not this score. I feel like even Blade Runner 2049 is more deserving of an award than this. Sure, it works great in the film, but that shouldn't be reason enough for an Oscar. I feel like Desplat's nominated score is more deserving than this one. <br><br>"But this one has a unique sound and recording!"<br><br>Okay... a lot of scores have that. A lot of Zimmer's work has that. Doesn't make them all masterpieces.<br><br>"But we have to spite those evil reviewers who hate this score!"<br><br>Why do you let their opinion get in the way of your enjoyment? If you love it enough, the critics' opinions should only make you enjoy it more because you see something in it they don't. <br><br>I agree with George in that Hans needs to go back to a melodic sound. I don't think whether this score wins or not will change Hans' mind on that, but I do want his next Oscar winner to mean something other than, "Oh cool! I won this award because I made weird sounds!" (Which by the way, involves things like programming and a lot of other technical adjustments that have nothing to do with Hans' composing ability)."The thing that I'm proudest about Dunkirk is you can't separate it from the film."<br>- Hans Zimmer, GQI understand, but it does not make sense.<br>You're arguing that the score for a movie released in January this year was produced before of the score of a movie that went to theaters in July. If Balfe started working on "12 strong" a year before the movie release, the same can be said of Dunkirk. It is easy to infer that the Dunkirk's score has been working since the middle of 2016! Or even before, because of the tours that Zimmer has done.<br>The music/sound design, even being simple, was not made and recorded between January and May of last year.Olive  that is when it was announced !!! Not when he did itBalfe's hiring came out in May, when Dunkirk's production was already at the end. No contest.<br><br><br>filmmusicreporter.  com/ <br> 2017/05/24/lorne-balfe-to-score-horse-soldiers/
Hans finished the bulk of the score before he went on tour, you could find an interview where he himself says so. <br>Ben worked solely on Variation 15. <br>Scroll down on this page and you'll find the full cuesheet with the credits. <br>Edmund - how do you think Zimmer wrote Dunkirk when he was on a world tour !!!Congratulations to Ben, Lorne also .Edmund - the release dates do not matter . Check out Balfe’s Facebook page and you will see he was recording 12 Strong early last year .I've only heard the suite Hybrid made. The only similarity I was aware of is the siren-like sound. <br><br>People don't realize how difficult scoring Dunkirk was. Just because you love Interstellar (I do too - it's my favorite HZ score) but that doesn't mean Dunkirk doesn't deserve to win. <br>Edmund, in all honesty what are the similarities between 12 Strong and Dunkirk? I know both scores and fail to see how they connect.
Doesn't deserve an Oscar. Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer but if he didn't win for Interstellar, he shouldn't win for this. <br><br>I can seriously say that I object this score winning based on that principle. This winning over Interstellar just isn't right.Well, the credits say that Supermarine or the oil are pure Zimmer, and also the 3 first track I think. So Balfe helped him to develop some ideas during his tour but the majority of the score is Hans' work.<br>And it does deserve an Oscar. I never heard a score like that.. If you have a problem with the score I think it comes from the script. A classical melodical music wouldn t work for this film i think.Source? I find that hard to believe considering the release dates. Even if it is true, Balfe might have been concurrently working on Dunkirk and brought over some of the ideas. I find it spectacularly improbably that he and Hans just HAPPENED to come up with the same ideas at the same time.Edmund - gets you facts right please . 12 Strong was written before DunkirkHere's an interesting opinion: I want Hans to win this one so that he DOESN'T continue making music like this. Sure its functional, but if he could reinvent the melodic score again and get back to writing memorable melodies I'd be pretty happy. He won for Lion King and then essentially abandoned that tone of music which transitioned into the Crimson Tide/The Rock sound... so maybe, just maybe, if he wins this year he'll completely reinvent his sound again and give us something both melodically memorable but also be a total game changer in terms of modern scores.
I hope it doesn't win if for no other reason than so we don't have to go through 5 years of Dunkirk temp tracks (although if 12 Strong is anything to go by, too late).@Ahmad i only need "The Oil (Film Version)" :D Then i'll be happy :D*That was a thumbs up but it didn't work :D<br><br>^This how I feel lol.I hope Dunkirk wins just to make the so-called "reviewers" and those who say it isn't music, more frustrated and annoyed.@badbu &#128077;<br><br>I honestly don't know how a complete score is going to work. They weren't kidding when they said the music is done like one long track. <br><br>What I understood from a Q&A with Nolan is that they didn't do it the usual way which means there are cues that are cut together / exist as segments. This was done in a different way where to create such cues, they used automation graphs to bring the layers in and out. Very complex. <br><br>One of the reasons why I think this deserves to win so many awards.
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Mark MancinaDave MetzgerDon HarperDaniel Pinder
ComposerAdditional MusicConductorMusic Editor
Moana
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 120'06
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CD1
  1. Tulou Tagaloa - Olivia Foa'i (0:52)
  2. An Innocent Warrior - Vai Mahina, Sulata Foai-Amiatu, Matthew Ineleo (1:38)
  3. Where You Are - Christopher Jackson, Rachel House, Nicole Scherzinger, Auli'i Cravalho, Louise Bush (3:31)
  4. How Far I'll Go - Auli'i Cravalho (2:44)
  5. We Know The Way - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (2:22)
  6. How Far I'll Go (Reprise) - Auli'i Cravalho (1:28)
  7. You're Welcome - Dwayne Johnson (2:44)
  8. Shiny - Jemaine Clement (3:06)
  9. Logo Te Pate - Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Talaga Steve Sale (2:11)
  10. I Am Moana (Song Of The Ancestors) - Rachel House, Auli'i Cravalho (2:43)
  11. Know Who You Are - Auli'i Cravalho, Vai Mahina, Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Matthew Ineleo (1:13)
  12. We Know The Way (Finale) - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (1:10)
  13. How Far I'll Go (Alessia Cara Version) - Alessia Cara (2:56)
  14. You're Welcome (Jordan Fisher/Lin-Manuel Miranda Version) - Jordan Fisher, Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:18)
  15. Prologue (2:26)
  16. He Was You (0:51)
  17. Village Crazy Lady (0:46)
  18. Cavern (2:06)
  19. The Ocean Chose You (1:18)
  20. The Hook (1:10)
  21. Tala's Deathbed (2:01)
  22. Battle Of Wills (3:11)
  23. Kakamora (4:34)
  24. Wayfinding (1:53)
  25. Climbing (0:55)
  26. Tamatoa's Lair (2:46)
  27. Great Escape (1:00)
  28. If I Were The Ocean (3:02)
  29. Te Ka Attacks (1:42)
  30. Maui Leaves (2:06)
  31. Heartache (0:40)
  32. Tala Returns (1:02)
  33. Sails To Te Fiti (5:47)
  34. Shiny Heart (0:37)
  35. Te Fiti Restored (1:04)
  36. Hand Of A God (0:31)
  37. Voyager Tagaloa (0:58)
  38. Toe Feiloa'i (1:26)
  39. Navigating Home (0:48)
  40. The Return To Voyaging (1:02)
CD2
  1. Unstoppable (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (4:00)
  2. More (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (3:17)
  3. More (Reprise) (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (2:39)
  4. Warrior Face (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:17)
  5. Where You Are (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:02)
  6. You're Welcome (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:38)
  7. Shiny (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:05)
  8. Prologue (Score Demo) (2:27)
  9. Village Crazy Lady (Score Demo) (0:45)
  10. Cavern (Score Demo) (2:06)
  11. Kakamora (Score Demo) (3:59)
  12. It's Called Wayfinding (Score Demo) (0:54)
  13. Maui Leaves (Score Demo) (2:05)
  14. Sails To Te Fiti (Score Demo) (1:38)
  15. Maui Battles (Score Demo) (1:58)
  16. Sea Monsters (Score Demo) (0:46)
  17. Tala Returns (Score Demo) (1:16)
  18. How Far I'll Go (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:45)
  19. You're Welcome (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:44)
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Bob Smith reply Replies: 2 || 2016-12-12 08:44:47
Is this a complete score Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-12 16:40:12
Nope, far from it, lots of short cues missing here & there, not that much significant material though...


Bob Smith2016-12-13 07:33:47
Thanks a lot man. It's really cool to have someone who knows what goes on behind the scenes.

0-^-0 reply Replies: 4 || 2016-11-26 18:22:02
Would welcome any attempt at putting the tracks in chronological order for this one.


Carly2016-11-28 03:12:20
After seeing the movie, this is how I would order CD 1 chronologically:

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
How Far I'll Go
He Was You
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills [this one might go before "You're Welcome"]
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)

I'm not positive, though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong!


Carly2016-11-28 03:37:08
Actually, I think "He Was You" comes before "How Far I'll Go."


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-03 17:51:40
I confirm your correct order Carly, with a couple of corrections ! :)

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
He Was You
How Far I'll Go
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed (after 1:15 seems unused)
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
If I Were the Ocean (first 2:07)
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean (after 2:07)
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)


0-^-02016-12-04 18:23:46
Thank You all for your contributions!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2016-11-21 11:57:38
I just had a listen to this (the score portion at least), and while it's nice and the Hawaiian elements (a beautiful flute and chanting choir) are worked in pretty well, I can't help but be a little disappointed. The many short tracks make it feel very fragmented and there's hardly any thematic material to hold it together. Definitely the best tracks are the long action cues "Kakamora" and "Sails to Te Fiti", but even they change rhythm every ten seconds and are a little frustrating. You can definitely tell that the score is composed to fit in between a lot of songs because it seems to lack a narrative of its own.

It's still worth listening to, but don't expect anything on the level of Planes.


rockhound2016-11-21 14:29:34
with the songs it is the same. mancina did co-write the music for a couple of them and produced almost all of them and you can hear that. all the songs have melodies, but none of them shines out as a theme song like for example in Tarzan or The Lion King. none of the songs has a very strong melody, but they capture the hawaiian feeling perfectly as the score does. if you listen to the album as a whole, the concept works.


Arose2016-11-29 07:12:15
Just FYI, not everything Polynesian is Hawaiian. There are like numerous other cultures (much older, approx 3000yrs old) than the Hawaiian culture (which is only about 900-1300yrs old). So the story and the music of Moana is actually based and from those older cultures (I.e Tulou Tagaloa is entirely Samoan).

JB reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-17 18:51:44
The album structure is very similar to the Frozen soundtrack. Fisrts disc original songs followed by the original score. Second disc outtakes, demos and instrumentals from the original songs and the score.

Macejko reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-19 10:18:01
Mark needs to properly return to the scoring game. Seriously, it's long overdue. I feel like I've been waiting for Moana for centuries and I'm really excited.


Peter2016-11-04 21:36:36
totally agree, why he is scoring so rarely?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-18 14:11:58
2CD !!! :D

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-18 12:07:53
New Mancina to come !


isildur2016-10-18 12:49:08
Really excited about this. Mark writes some beautiful melodies. Just like Atli, he doesn't get as much as he deserves.

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