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Hallo,<br><br>Der 'Gladiator' ist schon langsam in die Jahre gekommen, die Musik ist aber nicht šlter geworden. Genial.<br><br>GruŖ  <br><br>Not bad score.<br><br>But I prefer the other oneIsnít that ironic that DC is abandoning the continuity while Marvel is finally embracing it?<br><br>For any electronic fans out there, this score is definitely a must listen, there are some badass 80ís beats (with a dash of Tron legacy) in here.I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.
Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's commentsThe funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.
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  1. Okinawa Battlefield (3:59)
  2. I Could Have Killed Him (2:20)
  3. A Calling (2:42)
  4. Pretty Corny (1:44)
  5. Climbing For A Kiss (3:47)
  6. Throw Hell At Him (1:58)
  7. Sleep (2:19)
  8. Dorothy Pleads (3:17)
  9. Hacksaw Ridge (4:20)
  10. Japanese Retake The Ridge (4:36)
  11. I Can't Hear You (2:54)
  12. One Man At A Time (2:30)
  13. Rescue Continues (3:46)
  14. A Miraculous Return (2:50)
  15. Praying (5:49)
  16. Historical Footage (4:59)
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Rudy reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-31 20:47:29
OlŠ! Eu fiz um vŪdeo e coloquei um pedaÁo de uma trilha desse albķm. Ao publicar no Facebook, recebi um aviso de Copyright e meu vŪdeo no. E pode ser publicado. Como faÁo para poder ter o direito de postar no video no Facebook?

Paul reply Replies: 3 || 2017-02-13 13:12:41
Does anybody knows if there is a complete score, did it leak anywhere?????


Everan2017-04-16 02:08:44
I saw one around, you just have to look for it.


peter2017-04-16 16:34:37
Here you have playlist of Complete Score. You are all welcome :)

01. He Hates Himself (1:05)
02. To Basic Training (0:54)
03. Pretty Corny (1:47)
04. A Calling And A Lovely Girl (2:16)
05. I Could Have Killed Him (2:21)
06. Dorothy Waits/Desmond's Rage (1:12)
07. Throw Hell At Him (1:58)
08. Okinawa Battlefield/Childhood (3:46)
09. A Night Together (0:56)
10. I Sleep Pretty Hard (2:22)
11. Climbing For A Kiss (3:59)
12. Charges Withdrawn/Small Victory (1:17)
13. Court Martial (1:53)
14. I Killed Him In My Heart (1:04)
15. Dug In For The Night (0:26)
16. Okinawa Battlefield/Childhood v2 (4:07)
17. Kill Joy Is Here (1:30)
18. Playing Dead (Part 1) (2:36)
19. Hacksaw Ridge (4:21)
20. Dorothy Pleads (3:20)
21. Into The Rat Hole (2:41)
22. Smitty is Gone/I Can't Hear You (2:54)
23. Morning Patrol/Hollywood (1:13)
24. Sniper / Rescuing Howe (1:17)
25. A Miraculous Return (1:51)
26. One Man at a Time (3:42)
27. Rescue Continues/I Thought I was Blind (3:45)
28. Rescuing Howe (2:48)
29. End Title 2 (0:49)
30. Japanese Retake the Ridge (4:49)
31. End Title 1 (3:13)
32. End Title 3 (1:11)
33. End Title 4 (1:35)
34. End Title (2:25)
35. Historical Footage (4:47)
36. Praying/Let's Go To Work (5:49)

Playtime: 1:27:58


Felix2017-04-16 17:24:29
Here are the Sessions:

01 - 1M1 Okinawa Battlefield/Childhood
02 - 1M2 I Could Have Killed Him
03 - 1M4 He Hates Himself
04 - 1M6 A Calling & A Lovely Girl
05 - 1M7 Pretty Corny
06 - 2M9 Climbing for A Kiss
07 - 2M11 To Basic Training
08 - 3M12 Throw Hell At Him
09 - 3M14 I Sleep Pretty Hard
10 - 3M15 Dorothy Waits/Desmond's Rage
11 - 3M16 Dorothy Pleads
12 - 4M17 Court Martial
13 - 4M18 Charges Withdrawn/Small Victory
14 - 4M19 A Night Together
15 - 4M21 Kill Joy is Here
16 - 5M23 Hacksaw Ridge
17 - 6M25 Dug in for the Night
18 - 6M26 I Killed Him in My Heart
19 - 6M27 Japanese Retake the Ridge
20 - 6M28 Smitty is Gone/I Can't Hear You
21 - 6M29 One Man At A Time
22 - 6M30 Playing Dead
23 - 7M31 Into the Rat Hole
24 - 7M32 Rescue Continues/I Thought I Was Blind
25 - 7M33 Morning Patrol/Hollywood
26 - 7M34A Sniper
27 - 7M34B Rescuing Howe
28 - 7M35 A Miraculous Return
29 - 8M36 Praying/Let's Go to Work
30 - 8M38 Historical Footage
31 - 8M39 End Title #1
32 - 8M40 End Title #2
33 - 8M41 End Title #3
34 - 8M42 End Title #4
35 - 1M1alt Okinawa Battlefield/Childhood

kitaro1366 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-15 06:29:52
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David reply Replies: 2 || 2017-02-09 20:25:16
When will the complete score be added with composer info? That would be nice :)


Hybrid Soldier2017-02-09 23:40:25
No cuesheet info, it's empty !


Dudu2017-02-10 07:54:33
Yeah, and I saw that no additional music composer is credited in the booklet either, only thanks...do you know why Hybrid? Maybe contract issues?

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 0 || 2017-01-05 20:50:06
Rupert Gregson-Williams makes a Great score for this movie.

This Score Is Like other War Films Like 13 Hours Music By Lorne Balfe &
Lone Survivor By Explosions In The Sky & Steve Jablonsky

Scorefan reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-05 00:42:46
Very good suite, very doog job from Rupert. The beginning of the suite sounds like Kingdom of heavne from his brtoher Harry.


psycosid072016-11-30 02:25:31
Yeah, you're right. Debney's complete score was rejected and replaced by Rupert Gregson-Williams for the final cut.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-12 22:02:11
Just saw the film, definitely one of my top Oscar contenders for this year. Great direction, acting, cinematography, etc.

As for the score, Rupert hit it out of the ballpark. The first half reminded me of a bluegrass "Winters Tale" while the second definitely had that modern action scoring we are all accustomed with. Only major complaint is some of the dissonant sections during the war scenes but, given the context, it's understandable.

(And 2:00 in Climbing for a Kiss, holy shit that's beautiful)

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 1 || 2016-11-09 15:44:41
Rupert Gregson-Williams:Composer
Anthony Clarke:Additional Music
Evan Jolly:Additional Music
Steve Mazzaro:Additional Music
Cliff Masterson:Conductor
Mel Gibson:Director

Rupert Gregson-Williams Has Done An Great And Awsome Score Again Hacksaw Ridge I Can Wait To See This Movie


Edmund Meinerts2016-11-10 23:57:19
What's the point of the first part of your post? Most of that information is up there already. Also, Watch Your Capitals.

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-09 22:22:56
That is a hell of a beautiful movie. Very powerful, very emotional, and intense as hell. Actors performances are unbelievably good as well. Needless to say, Rupert's score plays a big role in the movie, especially towards the end. A job nicely done by all involved, I sure hope to see this movie at least nominated for the Oscars.

Morgan Joylighter reply Replies: 3 || 2016-11-04 08:13:57
Best war movie...possibly best war movie score of all time...

I just saw this in the cinema last night and I was totally blown away by both movie and score. Rupert has really re-invented himself this year and it seems like Mel Gibson has too.


will2016-11-08 09:32:08
best war movie score of all time? while i really enjoy ruperts work, but wow that is a bit too much don't you think? :D


Brent2016-11-08 10:27:25
"Best war score of all time" may be a stretch, but I really do quite like this. I'm SO SO happy with what Rupert has produced this year. Portions of Tarzan are good, this score (and film) are amazing and The Crown is absolutely sublime. Can't wait for Wonder Woman!


Saurabh2016-11-08 17:38:56
I won't say Rupert has reinvented himself. His sound is more closely associated with the 90s RCP sound. While Tarzan seemed pedestrian for me, Hacksaw Ridge has a great blend of that power anthem sound and some good themes.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-07 19:23:30
Wow, the main theme as heard in the first two tracks is reeeeeeally similar to his brother's "Burning the Past" from Kingdom of Heaven. Did Mel phone up the wrong Gregson-Williams? :P

I mostly like the score, but it's interesting that you can basically divide it into three parts: first pretty but very low-key drama writing kind of a la Winter's Tale (it's been compared to Thomas Newman and James Horner but that's a big stretch IMO), then modern themeless drum-heavy RC action and suspense music of the kind I don't like so much ("Japanese Retake the Ridge" could easily be from a Junkie XL score, which is not a compliment), and finally some good old thematic power-anthem-type emotional action scoring of the kind I do like very much. The first part isn't especially memorable and I could do without the middle part entirely, but otherwise I really enjoy this. It has a narrative and is definitely a step up from Tarzan, although I still personally prefer RGW's lighter efforts like Bee Movie and Bedtime Stories.

Crisp Rat reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-05 06:03:02
Rupert really blew me away with this one! I was not expecting this gem of a score at all, especially in light of some his recent scores. I've been thinking a lot about this score, and what makes it so memorable. What sets this apart from his other scores, or really any other film score out there? And I believe the answer is this: strong, memorable themes, displayed in a way that really allows the music to move you. Because if music fails to move you, then what is it's purpose in any kind of media? Memorable emotions create memorable scores. And that, I think, is why scores like Inferno or BvS fall flat compared to the old Zimmer. Screechy sound design will never create an emotional response.
Check out this video that I found to be interesting and insightful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs

Cyberpunk88 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-04 12:40:40
So apparently Rupert is also going to score Wonder Woman, while still using Zimmer's WW theme from BvS. Can't wait!

Frank reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-04 10:01:35
This score is easily the best score of Rupert's whole career thus far and he finished it with less than a month. I hope he can maintain such level for Wonder Woman.

Everan reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-27 22:24:56
https:// www.youtube.com/watch? v=XLogL29fQWU

A visual soundtrack with some new music samples!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 8 || 2016-10-01 15:56:43
Added a suite, it sounds pretty damn good !


isildur2016-10-01 18:22:17
It really does. Film has really amazing reviews. So, along with the film it seems there is a chance for a nomination for the score too. Just like they nominated Henry's score for Capt. Philips (which by the way wasn't that good a score)


Dragonseeker2016-10-01 19:52:03
Captain Phillips nomination was a joke. But this sounds better in every way.


MrZimmerFan2016-10-01 21:33:38
There is no nomination for Jackman's Cap Phillips in the Oscars


MrZimmerFan2016-10-01 21:34:05
Well, in the Baftas ;)


Everan2016-10-02 07:04:32
I hope this gets nominated


Phil2016-10-02 08:34:39
sounds amazing


Paul2016-10-02 13:19:09
Wich tracks did you use??? It sounds epic and emotional... Can't wait


Mcbain2016-10-04 11:44:44
The part @3:08 is just grand. Thanks for the update, Hybrid ;-)

... reply Replies: 9 || 2016-09-23 23:01:56
Wasn't John Debney scoring this?


Hybrid Soldier2016-09-23 23:03:30
Yes and he was kicked out !


Ds2016-09-23 23:29:30
Do you have more info on that, Hybrid? Like, was it Mel? Or the studio?


Brent2016-09-24 01:18:08
Part of me wishes it was still Debney as his previous effort with Mel resulted in one of the best scores I've heard, but I'm excited to hear what Rupert does here.


mpolonest1232016-09-24 01:25:12
Outside of Winter's Tale (which is severely underrated imo) nothing RGW has scored has stood out to me. I would've loved to see someone like Lorne Balfe take this type of project on.

Still, fingers crossed for Rupert to deliver something good. :-)


Edmund Meinerts2016-09-24 13:33:58
mpolonest123, you should check out Bedtime Stories and Bee Movie (the latter admittedly with a bit of behind-the-curtain help from Hans himself). Both are really fun scores, albeit a lot lighter than what this movie calls for. RGW is quite talented, actually, a lot better than what the fairly bland Tarzan would have you believe.


mpolonest1232016-09-24 14:59:47
I'll definitely take a listen to both of those. I had heard Bee Movie a few years back but it never stuck with me. Maybe it's time to revisit it :-)


Paul2016-09-24 18:51:59
Wow... Varese Sarabande still suck at artworks. Especially fonts... Ugh...

I'm fine with Rupert scoring this one, but I have the same question as Ds - why Debney was 'kicked out'?


Meta2016-09-25 03:39:17
Maybe the whole "Mel is an Anti-Semite" flared up...Who knows. I thought those two were tight after Passion of the Christ.


Hybrid Soldier2016-09-25 11:15:59
I have no idea why Debney was debarked...

Maybe he even left himself, who knows ! Actually I don't care lol...

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 0 || 2016-09-23 21:48:01
Great!

Ds reply Replies: 1 || 2016-09-23 20:45:24
I really can't wait for that one!!! :-)


Macejko2016-09-23 20:50:48
Tarzan was pretty boring, not expecting much.

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