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Dunno if this is a troll post or a legit one... but I do agree to an extent. Both Mortal Engines and Alita show a HUGE improvement in Tom’s compositional technique, regardless of Conrad Pope’s contribution (which I’m sure still has something to do with it.) <br><br>I actually enjoy his early works (300, Point Break, Run All Night, Divergent) but you can definitely hear the vast difference in quality over time, and as Tom grows as a composer I’m sure his future scores will be the same way.5 years and it sounds like a blend of bvs and fury road. both of which come after it.Woah, this sounds outdated already, like a bad 90s video game. For the record, it was composed 4 years ago. This fetishization of technology over compositional technique is absolutely ridiculous. <br><br>Now, Tom has seen the errors of his ways and hired some actual orchestrators (not the RCP clown bunch) and Mortal Engines and Battle Angel Alita are actually excellent scores. They show that he masters compositional technique to the hilt. This early stuff - I suspect it will be buried soon. <br>Richter is a conceptual artist, I love his Leftovers score, but come one, scoring to picture ?<br><br>He writes pieces that are used in scenes, not the other way around...<br><br>Richter scoring a moon buggy chase ? Hell no... lol you could see from day one it was gonna be replaced...^ Yeah the edit floating around matches Felix’s almost to a T. Only major difference is <br><br>“Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale”<br><br>Which is broken up into four separate cues. Realistically you could edit it anyway you want if you prefer the smaller cues. Personally, I like the long suite-like format of this release. Kinda like the album release for “Event Horizon” lol.
I hope they at least release Richter's score.My Edit:<br><br>01. Rise Of An Empire - Marathon - King Darius - Artemisia - Man To God - War (13:36)<br>= <br><br>M1A Rise of An Empire (09:48)<br>M1B From Man to God King (03:44)<br><br>02. Greek Council - Persian War Plan - Spartan Fight Training - Greek Conversation - Your Commander Is Greek (10:47) <br>=<br><br>M2 Greek Council (03:39)<br>M3 Greek Conversation (07:06)<br><br>05. Suicide - General Bandari - Circle Battle (7:30) <br>=<br><br>M6 Suicide/General Bandari (02:10)<br>M7 Circle Battle (05:16)<br><br>06. Sex - Fire Battle (12:04) <br>=<br><br>M10 Sex (05:36)<br>M11 Fire Battle (06:21)<br><br>11. Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale (16:08) <br>=<br><br>M15-17A Our Final Stand/Showdown Pt.1 (08:19)<br>M17B-19 Showdown Pt.2/Finale (07:37)I'm not really interested in Balfe's part of work, but it would be a big disappointment if Richter's work wouldn't released.<br><br>But I think there's a good chance that movie (and music in particular) get an Oscar nominations, so let's just hope for the best.@mpolonest123 any idea how to break up the really long cues on the complete? it’s a lot of tracks that are made up of several cuesArtemisia Suite = History of Artemisia <br>Greek Action Suite = Marathon <br>Xerxes Rebirth Suite = From Man to God King<br>Greek Sacrifice Suite = ???<br>Artemisia’s Childhood Suite = Artemisia’s Childhood<br>Greek Attack Suite = Greeks on Attack<br>Queen Gorgo Suite = Queen Gorgo<br>Xerxes Thoughts Suite = Xerxes Thoughts<br>Greek History Suite = History of the Greeks<br>Greek Victory Suite = Greeks Are Winning<br><br>Hope this helps! :-)
Hybrid can you tell us what album cues are the suites ?!well, from what Lorne wrote on Twitter, it should be releasedCool thanks for getting back! I am still a little bit confused though. Do any Basil Poledouris cues go somewhere in that list? It’s been a very very long time since I have seen the film.The Hans cues used are :<br><br>1M1 OPENING CREDITS / MAIN TITLE (USED FROM 2:18 TO 3:03)<br>1M2 GOLDEN STAIRCASE (USED FROM 0:00 TO 1:56)<br>2M2 JACK SEES WOLVES<br>2M3 BLACK WOLF<br>2M6 THE TREK CONTINUES (USED FROM 0:28 TO 1:15)<br>3M1 THIN ICE<br>3M2 SKUNKER'S DEATH<br>3M3 FULL MOON WOLF ATTACK<br>3M3A MORNING WOLF ATTACK<br>6M4 THE BEAR<br>6M4A THE BEAR ATTACK<br>7M3 IN THE STABLE<br>7M5 WHITE FANG FIGHTS SATAN<br>8M1 FIGHT MONTAGE (FIRST HALF USED)<br>8M3 PIT FIGHT (FINAL 20 SEC USED)<br><br>All the rest, by definition, is Basil's score...Hey hybrid soldier! You mentioned on the ghost in the shell page about white fang so I came here! Can you give us a list of the cues as they appear in the film please? The Basil Poledouris cues and the Hans Zimmer cues please
I imagined it ... hopefully this time Max Ritcher does not give him a lollipop and refuses to launch his musicYes Unbreakable.
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<br>Exactly like White Fang. Have Poledouris write a score, then HZ do another, then pick what you want from both.
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<br>Ghost In The Shell was kinda different...In the credits of the movie, Max Ritcher appears as the Main Composer, meanwhile, Lorne appears as Additional MusicI find that it would be best to accredit both and launch the two soundtracks and all happy.Hybrid implies that Max Ritcher's score was rejected, and that Lorne made a new one and in the end, the best of both has been used.  I am right?
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Justin BurnettHarry Gregson-WilliamsHarry Gregson-WilliamsAl Clay
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Metal Gear Solid V (VG)
Label: Konami Digital Entertainment
Length: 157'26
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    CD1

  1. The Man Who Sold The World (5:42)
    Midge Ure, David Bowie
  2. V Has Come To (3:08)
    Ludvig Forssell
  3. You Can Call Me Ishmael (2:03)
    Ludvig Forssell
  4. A Burning Escape (9:05)
    Justin Burnett, Ludvig Forssell
  5. Afghanistan's A Big Place (2:16)
    Ludvig Forssell
  6. Unforgiving Sands (2:47)
    Ludvig Forssell
  7. Kept You Waiting Huh? (3:25)
    Ludvig Forssell
  8. Parasites (3:20)
    Ludvig Forssell
  9. Allegiance Defined (2:56)
    Justin Burnett
  10. Exfiltrate The Hotzone (1:30)
    Ludvig Forssell
  11. I Am Skull Face (3:31)
    Ludvig Forssell
  12. Hals's Child Unchained (3:01)
    Justin Burnett
  13. Introduction To Africa (2:30)
    Ludvig Forssell
  14. Encounter On The Plains (1:57)
    Ludvig Forssell
  15. A Factory Of Death (1:57)
    Ludvig Forssell
  16. The Code Talker (4:07)
    Ludvig Forssell
  17. Metallic Archaea (2:08)
    Ludvig Forssell
  18. OKB Zero (2:10)
    Ludvig Forssell
  19. Angering Mantis (7:01)
    Justin Burnett
  20. Sahelanthropus Dominion (6:19)
    Justin Burnett
  21. Return (2:57)
    Ludvig Forssell
  22. Sins Of The Father (4:54)
    Donna Burke, Akihiro Honda, Ludvig Forssell
    CD2

  1. Quiet's Theme (2:53)
    Stefanie Joosten, Akihiro Honda, Ludvig Forssell
  2. Here's To You (3:09)
    Ennio Morricone, Joan Baez
  3. Not Your Kind Of People (4:59)
    Garbage
  4. Nuclear (4:59)
    Mike Oldfield
  5. Ground Zeroes (1:50)
    Ludvig Forssell
  6. Camp Omega (1:28)
    Ludvig Forssell
  7. Withered Peace (2:22)
    Ludvig Forssell
  8. The Girl's Gone (2:44)
    Ludvig Forssell
  9. Bloodstained Anthem (1:23)
    Ludvig Forssell
  10. She's Rigged (3:01)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  11. The Fall Of Mother Base (3:32)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  12. Drop Off (1:19)
    Ludvig Forssell
  13. Beautiful Mirage - An Unexpected Visitor (4:18)
    Ludvig Forssell
  14. On The Trail (2:02)
    Ludvig Forssell
  15. Steel Embers (2:03)
    Daniel James
  16. Infected (4:03)
    Ludvig Forssell
  17. Battling Armor (5:26)
    Justin Burnett
  18. Shining Lights, Even In Death (4:03)
    Ludvig Forssell
  19. Fortress (2:05)
    Ludvig Forssell
  20. Disarmament (1:37)
    Ludvig Forssell
  21. Swift Judgement (1:53)
    Ludvig Forssell
  22. Darkness Roars (3:31)
    Ludvig Forssell
  23. Beautiful Mirage - The Vision Fades (1:52)
    Ludvig Forssell
  24. Objective Complete (1:52)
    Ludvig Forssell
  25. African Battlecry (2:07)
    Ludvig Forssell
  26. Metal Gear Online (3:26)
    Daniel James
  27. A Phantom Pain (3:59)
    Ludvig Forssell
  28. Various Jingles (0:53)
    Ludvig Forssell
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Evan reply Replies: 3 || 2015-10-16 14:46:20
I recently bought this album, and I quite enjoy it.. But there's one big problem I have with it, along with most video game scores, it's the lack of thematic development. The biggest thing that frustrates me is that a composer will write a fantastic theme, only to have it pop up two or three times, or less. A lot of the assassin's creed scores suffer from this (aside from III and Unity). Ludvig composed an amazing main theme for Snake, first heard in "V Has Come To" and I was very excited on the first listen because I had been playing the game religiously in recognized the theme from the gameplay. As expected, the theme only appears a few times after the mentioned track. Its only appearances after track 2 are a brief moment in "You Can Call Me Ishmael", "Return", a very patriotic rendition in. "Shining Lights, Even In Death" and a final statement in the refrain during "Metal Gear Online. " regardless, I'd recommend for fans of Harry Gregson Williams's prior MSG scores. If anyone knows where I can locate some of the missing tracks, please share!


Anon2016-01-22 15:30:00
Even, you might want to check out the expanded soundtrack that was just put out digitally a couple of weeks ago.

I'll admit, I originally struggled a bit with this score, but with the recent release of that album, (which added over five hours of music), I decided to more thoroughly give it a go.

Its sound is fairly different compared to the past Metal Gear games, but after taking a while to adjust, I found it to be pretty brilliant. Thematically, I think it's actually very solid. The theme for Venom Snake is subtlety interwoven throughout most of the score. It just requires a bit of listening in some instances. It's definitely quoted a lot more than the tracks you pointed to.

Beyond the main theme though, there are some secondary themes that that really tighten things together, with the most illuminating being the numerous quotes of the Peacewalker theme from the past games that the first album mostly left out. It adds a ton of continuity that some people may find the first two disc set lacking.

I would definitely recommend though to anyone who might have found this to be a lukewarm listen to combine it with the second release, and take some time to digest the material. There's also supposed to be a third album coming out in March with the last few remaining tracks, so that should hopefully be pretty interesting too.


Edmund Meinerts2016-01-22 17:40:16
By great Annutseba, devourer of stars, ADDED FIVE HOURS OF MUSIC and they still want to put out a third release?

Jesus. Howard Shore would blush!


Anon2016-01-23 08:44:48
I was surprised by the release as well, given the length of the original album already put out, but some of the material on the extended set is absolutely essential if you're at all interested in the music here.

"We are Diamond Dogs"
"Regret and Acceptance"
"Paz is Dead"

Some of these tracks, after listening to them, left me absolutely flabbergasted that the first album didn't include them.

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2015-09-23 06:32:29
The cover dude looks like a cross-over between Ron Perlman and Tom Cruise lol


Felix2015-09-23 15:52:25
haha yes anonymous


Anonymous2015-10-16 15:28:29
Looked at the credits above. They specially thanked "Korean Food" on this one?

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