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I wouldn't say "Battlefield" sounds nothing like Steve, it is pretty in line with his TF style, but yeah, I definitely see the Lorne involvement in there. Interesting though, our first official additional composer credit on this score!John Powell would be an amazing choice, if only to get him more mainstream exposure. <br><br>The thing is, if you strip away the drums, sound design, and harsh-mixing Tom is a actually a pretty gifted “classical” composer imo. His string writing has always impressed me, and seeing his use of woodwinds in Alita definitely proved that he can write outside of the mold Hollywood had put him in post-Mad Max.<br><br>Avatar 2 is most likely going to need a pretty diverse score, if the first one is any indicator. James Horner combined traditional orchestra, tribal drums, ethnic elements, electronics, and masculine action writing. All of which I could see Tom doing quite well.Chrono order goes like this :<br><br>Dublin 1996<br>Driving<br>Deceit<br>Second Warning<br>First Warning<br>Research<br>Conversations<br>The Beating<br>Traynor Lies<br>Never Show Your Fear<br>Preparations<br>The Killing<br>Bad News<br>The Funeral<br>One More Day<br><br>But some tracks have cues edited together, and some titles are not exactly perfect lol...Atli is fine in Iceland, maybe he just doesn't want to look for trouble anymore... :)Lorne did work on this score. At the very end, when the film (and therefore, the score) was getting butchered by editors to shorten it, there was very little time to rework the score to adapt it to the new cut. So Steve called Lorne for help, who agreed but asked not to be credited (his team was, so it kinda defeated the purpose lol)... They didn't do THAT much on the score, but Battlefield is indeed a LB cue (it sounds nothing like SJ).<br><br>Not the first time this happened. Lorne extensively worked on TF1 & 2 (credited), but also helped (uncredited) on TF3 (there again, his assistant back then Andrew K. was credited).
Alright, that's ^^ a bit too far, but I agree that there's not enough evidence to really support the theory. The only compositions that seem like Balfe might have had a hand in are the various reprises of "Bumblebee" (aka the Journey theme) that was always rumored to be co-composed by Balfe, and the big choral section in "Your Voice" when the knights begin attacking Optimus, as that is also a progression I associate heavily with Balfe's involvement in the first 2 scores. But that's still not enough to prove that he was involved.<br><br>By the way Bayhem, I don't believe that John Williams or Howard Shore have lied about doing their work by themselves. John Williams has worked with William Ross and probably others, but I don't think they're lying when they say they've done a score themselves. They seem like they can compose on their own just fine.Yep, if "deserving" existed, Atli would've gotten many more movies than he currently does.Anyone know of a proper chronological listing of this score? I tried cross-referencing it with the expanded listed here and made this:<br><br>01 Dublin, 1996<br>02 <br>03 <br>04 <br>05 Second Warning<br>06 Research<br>07 Driving<br>08 The Beating<br>09 Traynor Lies<br>10 Never Show Your Fear<br>11 Preparations<br>12 The Killing<br>13 Bad News<br>14 The Funeral<br>15 One More Day<br><br>But I have no idea where Conversations, First Warning, and Deceit goes, and I'm not sure if Traynor Lies and Driving are placed correctlyif you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap<br>..................<br><br>Fair enough....But look back on the comment itself. It's kinda confusing. The way you wrote it created the illusion that Lorne not only ghostwrote the score, but he also dismissed it as crap. You didn't say "I dismissed the rumor". You said: "...a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap." <br> <br><br>Anyway, moving on.....<br><br>Steve was interviewed a lot about The Last Knight and it's pretty obvious that he worked hard on that score. From the day they started shooting the movie. Was he supported by other composers? Absolutely. You can't score such a huge movie by yourself. Any composer who claims that is lying.<br><br>So there's nothing shocking or surprising about the fact that other composers were involved here. As for them being "Lorne's people"......well, considering how MV/RC-related composers work and how interconnected everything is, the "Lorne guys" could very well be friends with Steve too and perhaps he simply brought them on board. Or they were recommended by Lorne. It certainly doesn't mean that there was this top secret plan of them and Lorne actually ghostwriting the entire score. I still wonder tho......how do these rumors even come up? Who spreads them? And why? I ask because this is not the first time I've heard rumors about Zimmer scores and Jablonsky scores. It's always these two guys. Which happen to be two of the most prominent and popular MV/RC guys. Coincidence? Not to sound like a conspiracy nut, but it kinda makes me think that someone is intentionally trying to undermine the biggest MV/RC names by constantly throwing shade at their work."Deserving" is a word that doesn't exist in Hollywood, so stop thinking that way... lol
The problem I have with Junkie XL scoring Avatar is just that there are so many RCP composers better or more deserving. You have Zimmer, Powell, Gregson-Williams, Mancina, Jackman, Wallfisch...it is just so wrong to think Junkie XL is scoring Avatar and none of those guys are.I think that Tim Miller played a greater role in case of Terminator and Sonic. And I really don't see Junkie as good choice for Avatar 2.@Edmund <br>I still stand by my opinion that Holkenborg scoring Avatar 2 could be pretty interesting. Pairing him up with a director who is known to be strict with his musical choices and continuing on from James Horner’s classic might produce something really good. And seeing his gradual progress as a composer with Mortal Engines and Alita have personally given me some hope (2 years ago I would have said hell no).<br><br>And I’m not surprised by the choice for T6. Not looking forward to this project at all but we did get a cool score from Balfe for the last one so maybe there is some hope for the music at least.I think Terminator is a decent match for JXL's talents (listen to "The March" from Divergent), but this feels like further evidence that James Cameron is grooming him for Avatar 2, which I really hope ends up not being the case.Yes, Tom will be scoring the new Terminator movie
Chill out Bayhem, if you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap.<br>But seeing people from his team ivolved and considering the fast and furious situation, I can’t help but wondering if there’s some truth to that rumor.<br>Now for a guy talking about haters, saying that Lorne scores 36million projects and B movies (forgetting mission impossible) I think you’re pushing it a bit.<br>Anyway no hate I don’t care who wrote it I’m just curious about the behind the scenes stuff.You're reaching there a bit Bayhem, I see no one in this thread trying to undermine Steve's work or the score. Hell the first poster was just asking if Lorne worked on it and if so, to what extent. And the "rumor comment" is a logical extension of Lorne's whole regular team being credited on the score, therefore it is possible that he did additional work on it.Again a "rumor" comment that's trying to undermine Steve's work. And in this case, an entire score. Lorne fans, please stop trying to constantly undermine other composers in favor of your guy. It's childish and extremely disrespectful. You've done it multiple times on these boards. What's next? You gonna claim that Lorne secretly scored the entire Transformers franchise? And Lord of the Rings. And Harry Potter. <br><br>Seriously, it's getting really old, really fast. <br><br>Not to mention the fact that Steve, as a composer, is much, much more experienced and established than Lorne. He's got nothing to prove. Steve takes his time when it comes to scoring. He's choosing carefully. He's got more than enough time to focus on his projects. While Lorne's name is attached to 30 million different projects, some of them cheap B-movies like Hurricane Heist. And you think he's scoring them all by himself? The irony of it all is that if anyone is using ghostwriters most of the time, it's Lorne. Not Steve. And I'm saying that as a Lorne fan as well. I'm not just a Jablonsky fan. I appreciate Lorne's work as well. But I'm not undermining other composers in favor of him.Bay has Lorne scoring his films now cause they established a relationship on 13 Hours, and Bay didn't even want Lorne for that; he wanted Hans but he didn't want to go through the exhausting process of another Bay blockbuster so he brought in Lorne instead.<br>And even then, Hans still worked together with Lorne very closely on the project (Hybrid said he was there for all the meetings, helped with synth programming, etc)Of cause Balfe worked on it .That is why Bay now uses Balfe
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Chicken Run
Label: RCA Victor
Length: 62'28 (Score: 59'52)
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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  1. Opening Escape (3:39)
    John Powell
  2. Main Titles (3:24)
    John Powell
  3. The Evil Mrs. Tweedy (4:22)
    John Powell
  4. Rats! (1:09)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  5. Chickens Are Not Organized (1:01)
    John Powell
  6. We Need A Miracle (2:03)
    John Powell
  7. Rocky And The Circus (3:51)
    John Powell
  8. Flight Training (3:39)
    John Powell
  9. A Really Big Truck Arrives (5:56)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  10. Cocktails And Flighty Thoughts (1:58)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  11. Babs' Big Break (1:40)
    John Powell
  12. Flip Flip And Fly - Ellis Hall (2:09)
  13. Up On The Roof (3:08)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  14. Into The Pie Machine (3:10)
    John Powell
  15. Rocky‚ A Fake All Along (3:28)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  16. Building The Crate (3:32)
    John Powell
  17. The Wanderer - Dion (2:47)
  18. The Chickens Are Revolting (2:45)
    John Powell, Gavin Greenaway
  19. Lift Off (3:41)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  20. Escape To Paradise (4:59)
    John Powell, Gavin Greenaway, James McKee Smith
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Scorefan reply Replies: 5 || 2018-06-25 19:37:39
Is this true?

Sessions:
01. 1m1 Opening Escape (3:39)
02. 1m2 Main Titles (3:23)
03. 1m3 The Evil Mrs. Tweedy (4:22)
04. 1m4a First Roll Call (2:06)
05. 1m4b Edwina’s Execution (1:28)
06. 1m5 Rats (1:08)
07. 1m7a Mrs. Tweedy’s Idea (Part 1) (0:40)
08. 1m7b Mrs. Tweedy’s Bad Idea (Part 2) (0:44)
09. 1m9 Ginger’s Dream (1:14)
10. 2m6 Cocktails Flighty Thoughts (1:58)
11. 2m7 Chickens Are Not Organized (1:00)
12. 2m8 We Need A Miracle (2:02)
13. 2m9 Rocky and The Circus (3:51)
14. 2m10 Rocky Arrives (0:58)
15. 2m11 Our Way Out (0:48)
16. 2m15 Circus Truck Arrives (2:35)
17. 2m16 Sleeping With Fowler (0:35)
18. 2m17-18 Flight Training (3:39)
19. 2m18 Futile Flying (1:58)
20. 2m19-21 Pie Mach Truck (5:57)
21. 3m12 Flip Flop Fly (2:09)
22. 3m22 Our Future (1:06)
23. 3m25 Thrust (1:02)
24. 3m26a 2nd Roll (1:10)
25. 3m26b Chicken Feed (0:31)
26. 3m26x Babs Big Break (1:39)
27. 3m32a Pie Machine Starts Up (1:34)
28. 3m32b Rocky Heroic On Hanger (0:34)
29. 4m33 Into The Pie Machines (3:11)
30. 4m34 Up On The Roof (3:08)
31. 4m35a Poster (2:01)
32. 4m35b Mud Fight (1:37)
33. 4m37 Rocky A Fake All Along (3:28)
34. 5m36 Building The Crate (3:32)
35. 5m38-39 Chickens Are Rev (2:46)
36. 5m40 Lift Off (3:41)
37. 5m41 Escape To Paradise (4:59)


Hybrid Soldier2018-06-25 19:52:51
... Partially ?


Anonymous2018-06-25 21:36:36
The cues that crossfade into one another on the official album have the same length on this "session" thing. Surely that is not how "sessions" are presented like...


Mr Tweedy2018-06-26 10:28:58
Looks like a combination of the official CD and a few unreleased tracks that ended up on the internet 6-7 years ago...


Edmund Meinerts2018-06-30 14:55:03
Yeah the amount of actual new music on that thing is pretty negligible, less than 5 minutes total of short cues. A lot of what looks like new stuff here are just shorter cues that were combined for the OST (e.g. "Poster" and "Mud Fight" are the two cues that make up "Rocky, a Fake All Along"). Unless you're desperate for clean beginnings/endings, these are the only tracks that actually contain new material:

Ginger's Dream (a nice soft take on the main theme by HGW I think)
Our Way Out
Our Future
2nd Roll (only the last 30 seconds)
Chicken Feed

It's definitely not a true sessions leak. But the album was already very comprehensive as it is and the movie's only 84 minutes long, so I doubt we're missing much (if anything).


Hybrid Soldier2018-06-30 18:03:24
Note in the soundtrack, "Into the Pie Machine" is the Powell alternate (used in the film) of the middle section of HGW's "A Really Big Truck Arrives".

So the release has both the film cue & the alternate.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 4 || 2013-11-17 15:21:00
How come there are some guys like Jablonsky and Zanelli who are listed as additionals here, but don't have any cues credited to them?


Frisbee2013-11-17 16:34:20
Two possibilities:

1) The parts they wrote didn't make it to the album program, or

2) It is known that these guys did write some music for this film, but the exact cues are not known.


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-17 16:42:36
Not sure about #1, because I honestly don't think there's much more music in the film than there is on this album.


Mike2013-11-19 04:15:54
Perhaps they did source music not included here...I know that was what Zanelli did on Antz.


Mr Tweedy2013-11-19 22:24:11
Actually Edmund there are a few tracks in the film that didn't make it to the album (5 minutes or so I think).
This could be an explanation. Perhaps some additional composers just helped here and there but didn't earn credits because their contribution was meager too much ?

I don't remember if there was any source music in the film apart from "The Wanderer" (that was not composed by the score team, of course).

MacArthur reply Replies: 1 || 2013-08-11 19:30:05
I Kinda Sounds Like the Great Escape Theme by Elmer Bernstein


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-11 22:40:22
Well, considering the movie is essentially The Great Escape except with chickens, I think that was the general idea. ;)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-25 07:55:05
So then, I take it JP was the primary guy here?

Ele reply Replies: 1 || 2009-12-16 00:00:00
There's mistake. Geoff Zanelli did not write additional music here.


Mike2013-04-10 04:59:28
Apparently he did. The film is listed on his site.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-28 09:26:05
Steve Jablonsky worked on this score! Wow!

FunnyML reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
According to the film's credits sequence, Geoff Zanelli actually did an additional cue.

Mario Soundtrack reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-25 00:00:00
New Actualist!!!!! John Powell and Harry Gregson-Williams is the best DUO. Yes, and with Hans Zimmer too.!

Opening Escape - Main Title - The Evil Mrs.Tweedy - Chickens Are not Organized - Flight Training -
A Really Big Truck Arrives - Cocktalis and Flighty Thoughts - Into the Pie Machine -
Building the Crate - The Chickens Are Revolting - Lift Off - Escape to Paradise !!!! 12 of 20 Goods!!

Mario Soundtrack reply Replies: 0 || 2009-02-28 00:00:00
Opening Escape - Main Titles - A really Big Truck Arrives - Into the Pie Machine - Building the Crate - Chickens Are Revolting - Lift Off & Escape to Paradise!
The best!!

Mario Soundtrack reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-19 00:00:00
This audible band is especially good, very varied and wonderful. The by that? The name of the two authors explains it all, loves me this duo. My favourite songs of here are:
Opening Escapes, Main Titles, A Really Big Truck Arrives, Building the Crate, The Chickens Are Revolting, LIFT OFF & Escape to Paradise.

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-24 00:00:00
Amazing score!

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-23 00:00:00
Go Hans Zimmer? Excuse me?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-10-24 00:00:00
Great score for an amazingly made movie. Go Aardman. Go Hans Zimmer. Go life!

Ant reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-13 00:00:00
Heh, the kazoos are just the cherry on top!

Peter Mandelson reply Replies: 0 || 2005-01-09 00:00:00
Great score for a great film!

John Mason reply Replies: 0 || 2005-01-09 00:00:00
My excitement just couldn.t be contained when I heard that Chicken Run was being scored by Gregson-Williams/Powell after their amazing collaboration on Antz. I knew we were all in for a treat!
I heard somewhere that main title music is a good way of telling how good the rest of the score is going to be and this is no exception. The "--Opening Escape"-- and "--Main Titles"-- tracks are seven minutes of sheer excitement. The music could be easily inserted into any old-fashioned war movie like 'The Great Escape' (which the film and music obviously parodies).
The introduction of the Mrs Tweedy character, which is gloriously placed in track 3, is at first ominous and then sad to accompany the execution of a fellow chicken.
There are many other sad, heartfelt cues in the score such as "--We Need A Miracle, "--Up On The Roof"-- and "--Rocky, A Fake All Along"--.
There are also many other action filled tracks (tracks 14 and 16).
I almost forgot to mention the kazoos - they are great. They provide a perfect comical feel to the score whilst preventing it from becoming too serious.
There are two songs on the album, one existing and one original - which is very enjoyable.

A great collaboration between the two composers who will continue to produce, interesting and exciting scores for years to come.

***** out of *****

Mr.Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2004-12-07 00:00:00
Certainement l'oeuvre la plus aboutie écrite par John Powell et Harry Gregson-Williams.
Les deux compositeurs ont réalisé un travail excellent pour ce film des studios Aardman, déjà créateurs des courts "--Wallace &-- Gromit"--.
L'humour est omniprésent et les différents thèmes sont recherchés, et d'une énergie rare.
Du "--Main Titles"-- au "--Building the Crate"-- survitaminé, pas une seule seconde de musique n'ennuie l'auditeur. Même les deux chansons ("--Flip Flop and Fly"-- &-- "--The Wanderer"--) s'inscrive parfaitement dans le contexte.
L'utilisation des kazoos donne un son nasillard très drôle, en guise d'identité sonore de la bande originale.

Une petite perle que tous les fans de Powell et Gregson-Williams se doivent d'avoir dans leur collection. Magnifique.

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