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Ummm @Hybrid, what do you think about Holly Amber Church. I listened two scores from her and they are really good scores.I really liked Gary Go's Friend Request from 2016 too.My choices for Avatar 2 would be:<br>Powell or Newton Howard^ 2018 I meanSteve really knocked it out of the park with “Nightmare”. I always appreciate horror scores that balance the use of themes with the more atonal music you normally get.<br><br>And the last horror score I remember loving was John Carpenter’s 2019 Halloween score. A great blend of old and new, especially for Carpenter fans like myself.
@Knight Powell’s last score was HTTYD3....@superultramegaa<br><br>Luke Richards did “Ospreys” and Gary Dworetsky did “Calling All Autobots”. You can find that out from this very site.I'm a huuuuuuge fan of the Freddy character & movies, and I really liked this remake, it didn't deserve the reputation it has... Especially when you compare to Freddy 2 or 6... lol<br><br>Music is great, best horror score Steve did with Amityville. But I also liked his more ambient horrors like Texas Chainsaws or Friday the 13th or Hitcher. But I can understand he probably wanted to step out of that genre and not end up being the new Harry Manfredini typecast !"I wouldn't say "Battlefield" sounds nothing like Steve, it is pretty in line with his TF style"<br><br>Well that's the thing, if you think "TF style" thinking of TF1 & 2, then it's not exactly completely Steve. So I stick to my comment... :) lolI recently saw both this movie and Friday the 13th (2009). And I have to say that Steve did a pretty good job with the music. Yes, I'm aware of the complaints and the whole "remakes suck" mentality. But still......I advice you to revisit these scores. You might be pleasantly surprised. <br><br>Speaking of horror scores.......I realized these days that it's been a while since we've heard a TRULY memorable and effective horror score. Or maybe it's just me and I've missed some really good ones...<br><br>Your thoughts on the matter, folks?
^ Yet he’s still not quite a household name like some of his peers. HTTYD, Bourne, and Solo have all given him great exposure, but I feel like the general public doesn’t quite recognize him on the same level as Zimmer, Giacchino, or Williams.Many thanks Hybrid!John Powell's last score was for a Star Wars movie, I don't think you could get any more mainstream exposure than that.So Steve called Lorne for help, who agreed but asked not to be credited (his team was, so it kinda defeated the purpose lol)... They didn't do THAT much on the score<br>--------------------------<br><br>There you go. Exactly how I expected it to be. They were simply helping each other. We've seen it multiple times before with other big scores.<br><br><br>Thanks for clearing it up.I wouldn't say "Battlefield" sounds nothing like Steve, it is pretty in line with his TF style, but yeah, I definitely see the Lorne involvement in there. Interesting though, our first official additional composer credit on this score!
John Powell would be an amazing choice, if only to get him more mainstream exposure. <br><br>The thing is, if you strip away the drums, sound design, and harsh-mixing Tom is a actually a pretty gifted “classical” composer imo. His string writing has always impressed me, and seeing his use of woodwinds in Alita definitely proved that he can write outside of the mold Hollywood had put him in post-Mad Max.<br><br>Avatar 2 is most likely going to need a pretty diverse score, if the first one is any indicator. James Horner combined traditional orchestra, tribal drums, ethnic elements, electronics, and masculine action writing. All of which I could see Tom doing quite well.Chrono order goes like this :<br><br>Dublin 1996<br>Driving<br>Deceit<br>Second Warning<br>First Warning<br>Research<br>Conversations<br>The Beating<br>Traynor Lies<br>Never Show Your Fear<br>Preparations<br>The Killing<br>Bad News<br>The Funeral<br>One More Day<br><br>But some tracks have cues edited together, and some titles are not exactly perfect lol...Atli is fine in Iceland, maybe he just doesn't want to look for trouble anymore... :)Lorne did work on this score. At the very end, when the film (and therefore, the score) was getting butchered by editors to shorten it, there was very little time to rework the score to adapt it to the new cut. So Steve called Lorne for help, who agreed but asked not to be credited (his team was, so it kinda defeated the purpose lol)... They didn't do THAT much on the score, but Battlefield is indeed a LB cue (it sounds nothing like SJ).<br><br>Not the first time this happened. Lorne extensively worked on TF1 & 2 (credited), but also helped (uncredited) on TF3 (there again, his assistant back then Andrew K. was credited).Alright, that's ^^ a bit too far, but I agree that there's not enough evidence to really support the theory. The only compositions that seem like Balfe might have had a hand in are the various reprises of "Bumblebee" (aka the Journey theme) that was always rumored to be co-composed by Balfe, and the big choral section in "Your Voice" when the knights begin attacking Optimus, as that is also a progression I associate heavily with Balfe's involvement in the first 2 scores. But that's still not enough to prove that he was involved.<br><br>By the way Bayhem, I don't believe that John Williams or Howard Shore have lied about doing their work by themselves. John Williams has worked with William Ross and probably others, but I don't think they're lying when they say they've done a score themselves. They seem like they can compose on their own just fine.
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Ramin DjawadiBrandon CampbellStephen ColemanWilliam Marriott
ComposerAdditional MusicOrchestratorTechnical Score Engineer
Game Of Thrones (TV Series - Season 5)
Label: WaterTower Music
Length: 58'40
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  1. Main Titles (1:45)
  2. Blood Of The Dragon (1:33)
  3. House Of Black And White (5:08)
  4. Jaws Of The Viper (2:31)
  5. Hardhome, Pt. 1 (5:06)
  6. Hardhome, Pt. 2 (4:31)
  7. Mother's Mercy (2:14)
  8. Kill The Boy (2:07)
  9. Dance Of Dragons (3:08)
  10. Kneel For No Man (4:45)
  11. High Sparrow (3:23)
  12. Before The Old Gods (2:37)
  13. Atonement (2:54)
  14. I Dreamt I Was Old (2:16)
  15. The Wars To Come (4:48)
  16. Forgive Me (3:17)
  17. Son Of The Harpy (5:17)
  18. Throne For The Game (1:20)
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iamtommie reply Replies: 3 || 2019-03-11 20:25:59
Episode 1
Atonement
Kneel For No Man

Episode 2
Blood Of The Dragon

Episode 3
Kill The Boy

Episode 4
High Sparrow

Episode 5
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Episode 6
House Of Black And White
Before The Old Gods

Episode 7
I Dreamt I Was Old

Episode 8
Hardhome, Pt. 1
Hardhome, Pt. 2

Episode 9
Forgive Me
Son Of The Harpy
Dance Of Dragons
Blood Of The Dragon

Episode 10
The Wars To Come
Jaws Of The Viper
Mother's Mercy

Not in Episode
Throne For The Game


Medigo2019-03-12 10:35:27
Me again
Son Of The Harpy also played in episode 4 I think


Iamtommie2019-03-12 13:00:30
Yeah, I know, but in Episode 4 there are a lot of different varations in the cue especially when Barristan fight.

In the dragon pit scene almost the entire cue is heard apart from the last minute or so.

That's why I put them this way


Medigo2019-03-12 14:32:34
I guess I didnt pay a lot of attention to the arena scene.
I think its more likely that the album track is a suite anyway.

Jerry reply Replies: 0 || 2019-03-10 23:46:45
Any idea of a Chronological Order? Including Episode numbers?

kingfannypack is the MILFcommander reply Replies: 0 || 2018-04-20 08:25:19
The Stark theme always left a big impression on me, but the way it plays when Jon Snow dies gives me the chills


... reply Replies: 0 || 2016-05-16 23:12:14
OMG the music was great in episode 4! The ending piece has to be on the OST!

... reply Replies: 1 || 2015-09-06 23:36:27
Wow. Ramin has done it again. I think that the new themes work brilliantly and that the development of old themes blends perfectly. Son of the harpy is such a great track. Too bad we don't have the version that plays in episode 9. It's a bit different.


Alan2015-09-07 14:21:59
the season 3 score is better

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2015-06-19 23:15:48
Hello Hybrid, do you have a cue from Ramin's The Srain: Season 1 Score?

Phil reply Replies: 2 || 2015-06-16 18:28:04
soo many Cello-Solo parts :) very nice


Edmund Meinerts2015-06-16 20:58:41
That's not such a surprise considering Djawadi plays the cello and thus eliminates the expense and effort of hiring a soloist. :p


Hybrid Soldier2015-06-16 21:07:12
The POTC 1 cello !

Ramin influence everywhere !! :P ;)

Macejko reply Replies: 13 || 2015-06-14 13:51:32
Awesome as always. "High Sparrow", "Son Of The Harpy", "Dance of Dragons" and "Hardhome" are simply astounding. Too bad there's some music missing, like the cue from Brienne's chase sequence, the Stone Men theme and more from Dorne - I expected more than just a little bit of guitar in "Jaws Of The Viper".
P.S.: I really hope that once the series is over we'll get some giant expanded edition of music from all the seasons.
P.P.S.: I've never been more ready for you, Warcraft!


Ds2015-06-14 14:37:00
I'll never understand why you're so crazy about this music, Macejko. Probably you like so much Djawadi that everything he puts out HAS to be great. The whole thing about the Game of Thrones music is that it is ambient music that doesn't take a big place, that remains in the background, providing dark and tense atmosphere, but that's it. I find these albums to be a rather boring listening experience, except for a few great cues of course, and a magnificent main theme. If only the actual score for this series sounded more like its main theme...


Macejko2015-06-14 15:08:35
Not all music needs to be a spectacular one like the main theme. In fact, it mustn't be, for obvious reasons. What can I say, I enjoy both types, be it the spectacle in "Dance of Dragons" or the eerie, mysterious quality of "House Of Black And White".
Of course, everything Ramin comes up with DOESN'T have to be great and there is stuff I consider only serviceable. But he doesn't compose to please ME personally, so who am I to complain if there are few tracks that don't blow me away? I find his albums to be amazing as an OVERALL work of art, with MAJORITY of the cues being great. I never said that I worship every single cue he's ever done. That would be impossible, and not just for me, but for everybody who has a favourite composer of their own, be it Hans, Goldsmith, Mansell or literally whoever else.


Hybrid Soldier2015-06-14 15:10:18
Wow Belgian / Slovakian showdown ! Let me grab my popcorn !!


Macejko2015-06-14 15:17:51
Oh, come on :D
Ds and I actually see eye to eye on most of the topics :)


Ds2015-06-14 20:17:56
Yeah we agree on almost all topics, except when it comes to Ramin. I dont hate his music but I just dont understand why Macejko worships him :-D

I get your point and I agree. I also like ambient scores, but Game of Thrones' music is too simplistic, too sober for my own taste. Scores like Broken City or Pain and Gain I find really pleasant on album, because they are much more layered. GoT, not so much...


Adam2015-06-14 23:28:47
There's a lot more than just ambience in Game of Thrones, Ds! There are actual themes! Like Daenerys' theme (Mhysa) and Jaqen H'ghar's theme (Valar Morghulis)! They're great stuff. So good!


Edmund Meinerts2015-06-15 11:01:17
The thing about Djawadi's themes for Game of Thrones is that (with some exceptions) they're so basic, so unmelodic, that hearing references to them in ambient/underscore cues doesn't do a whole lot to raise the interest level of that cue. Yeah, it's nice that there's recurring motifs and such, but when the motifs themselves are so dull that doesn't do much for me. People say the same about Howard Shore's Hobbit scores but Shore's themes are much more interesting and cleverly manipulated than Djawadi's.


Hybrid Soldier2015-06-15 12:56:05
Unmelodic ? How so ?


Macejko2015-06-15 15:15:27
Not even Shore developed his themes like Ramin did. Rearranged? Sure. Developed? Listen to "King's Arrival" from Season 1, then to "The Throne Is Mine" from Season 2 and finally to "First Of His Name" from Season 4, just to name a few. THAT'S development. A true emotional shift, a brand new context.


Edmund Meinerts2015-06-15 15:44:43
Unmelodic in the sense that a lot of the motifs (eg Stannis' or the White Walkers) are just very short ascending or descending patterns or textures, rather than full melodies with distinct phrases. Yes, it's a recurring theme, which is nice, but the theme itself is so short that it doesn't carry any emotional weight. It doesn't make the music more interesting beyond "oh, there's that theme".

And are you seriously going to suggest, Macejko, that Shore's thematic development in LotR/The Hobbit is in any way inferior to Djawadi's in Game of Thrones? Seriously? Don't make me laugh. What you cited with "The King's Arrival" is smart, admittedly, but there are literally hundreds of similar developments running all through the LotR scores. Look at what he does with the Fellowship theme. It starts out heroic but still subdued when it's just the Hobbits and Aragorn, then gets huge and fanfare-ish once the entire company is assembled in Rivendell, falls apart towards the end of FotR after Gandalf dies and then picks up steam again in TTT and RotK. You never hear that theme played the same way twice. In comparison, all Djawadi ever does with his main theme is play that same damn ostinato over and over again...different speeds, maybe, but always the same feeling (the only exception, and it's a great one, being "Three Blasts" from season 2). The way Shore's different themes have shared melodic fragments that connect the concepts to one another (e.g. the half-step opening of the Ring theme, Sauron's theme and the Ring's seduction theme) is another compositional nuance that's entirely lost on Djawadi.


Hybrid Soldier2015-06-15 16:16:03
In The Hobbit ? Let me think... YES... lol


Macejko2015-06-15 16:38:48
IMHO, all those nuances mean pretty much nothing when they are so buried in the soundscape that you have to be extra attentive to even notice them, or listen to the soundtrack a thousand times to discover them. From my point of view, the basic layout is this: in LoTR, the melody encapsulates the change, however in GoT, it's the change that encapsulates the melody. What this means is that while in LoTR you seek for a emotional differences in theme-variations that sound really similar to one another, in GoT you search for a theme in cues that couldn't be more emotionaly distinct from one another. I consider this to be a huge difference, and also one of those that separates the "old school" (Shore, Williams...) from "new school" (Hans, Ramin...), if you will. I think you rely a little too much on musical theory and missing a bigger picture. The way the things are done nowadays is not bad simply because it differs from the past methods, and you shouldn't say that something "is entirely lost" on Ramin. He and many others from RCP studied music and they are certainly well aware of the "old school" methods the critics are blaming them for not using. They might have simply CHOSEN to not use them.


Ds2015-06-15 19:17:39
Macejko I agree with your last post, about those old and new views on film music. However, while I fully appreciate Hans' method (actually I'm in love with it), I often find Djawadi to be too simplistic. I'm not looking for musical complexity (for instance I didn't enjoy the Hobbit scores at all, and I'm a huge fan of the heavy, brutal sections of Man of Steel), but I want the music to float in my ear, to move me somehow, I want a "full" sound with many layers, some crazy rythms. In my opinion Hans has got an amazing sense of entertaining, crowd-pleasing music (and I mean that as a compliment). Djawadi's music often lacks depth, it's like he's trying so hard to become Hans but stops at the "demo" stage. And the result is often kind of cheap-sounding and hollow.

Macejko reply Replies: 5 || 2015-05-12 11:38:53
It's only half of the season and we've already been introduced to three new themes. I can only imagine what awaits us down the road, and I can't wait for the score to come out :)


Zimson2015-05-12 12:03:21
I can't wait for his Warcraft score to come out. They keep delaying the release, but I'm pretty sure they're going to show the trailer at gamescom and hopefully include some of his music.


Anonymous2015-05-12 14:57:26
Well, I can't wait for POI season 3 & 4 soundtrack. What's going on with these?


Mark2015-05-12 15:02:54
Wow, great news. I think 'July 17' will be for the CD release. So the digital version will come out earlier on June, like the year past.


Medigo2015-06-04 15:11:20
woo samples
woo Kill the Boy


Radik2015-06-09 19:19:22
Son of the Harpy, what a excellent track! that moment when it's start plays in the show freaks me out. Pretty creepy and scary moment of entire season :)

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