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He’s definitely not a bad reviewer, and his writing style is pretty sharp. The obvious problem is that he has a strong bias against Zimmer. Most of his recent Zimmer reviews are less spent talking about themes and more so the “issues” with his current style.'At World's End' is possibly one of his greatest 'missteps' for sure, but he is a mostly reasonable guy when reviewing, and simply has a taste that doesn't accomodate a lot of the more modern sounding scores, which I think is ok, since we all have our preferences. His 'Solo' review is a must read for any fan of the score though. :DIf you want to understand why he's persona non grata, just go and check out his review of Hans Zimmer's masterpiece At World's End, it sums up pretty nicely the guy's mental issues :p<br><br>But his other reviews are mostly OK and that Solo one is indeed very good, worth a read.Who is he and why is he a persona non grata? ô_OHow dare you mention his name ??<br><br>I should erase that post... :P
What site are his reviews on again? Not really sure where to look.As long as Steve knows to keep this score mostly melodic with little to no sound design, I'll probably be happy with it.I assume that's the official cover....<br><br>I dig it. Very Die Hard-y : )I know Clemmensen is kind of persona non grata around here (not without good reason), but he put up his review of Solo a few days ago and it's one of the best he's ever written, a fantastic in-depth analysis (and appropriately positive). Worth spending an hour or two reading and listening to help unpack this score's many complexities.Is it just me or does the “Catwoman” riff (not the main theme) in “Bar Shootout” and “Nothing Out There” sound very much like the main Scarface theme?<br><br>I’ve also noticed that Hans sometimes will write a main tune and a series of riffs for a character, but will mainly incorporate the smaller motifs in the film (Angelica’s music from OST, Megamind’s main tune, Catwoman, etc.) Definitely not a problem though, I like the variety.<br><br>Look at the evolution of Batman’s theme from Begins, where he had the 2-note motif and the actual theme, to here where it’s just the 2 notes and the chord theme. I wonder if that was Chris Nolan’s decision.
John Powell answered in Facebook there is still 45 minutes of music outside from the CD.Yep, he knows how to do BIG and small moments. He's so versatile. I'm praying rian johnson uses him for his new trilogyThank you! Glad you enjoyed it.If there is one who can replace John Williams on Star Wars than is it John Powell!!<br><br>Great Job!!It sounds great ! I think I will listen to the CD after the hamburg concert, to keep the surprise, because they will play some cues there ! <br><br>Are some french JP fans going to Hamburg next week ? It would be great to have a beer and talk about film music !
Dear Mr. Zimmer (or those interested), <br><br>  Over the years I have always enjoyed some of the higher-intensity compositions you have produced and made a point of putting my money where my mouth is and actually buying the soundtracks - money well spent. I've used specific songs of your's to get through moments of fatigue at work and also to prepare (silly as it may sound) for sporting events, even working out or running. I found them better than any rock or even electronic-type energetic music, until such a point, naturally, that I'd listened to them too many times and the magic wore off. Some of your songs rise to a crescendo that sometimes are powerful but perhaps lost on those who are unfamiliar with the corresponding movie scene ("Flight" from Man of Steel, it rises gradually but the concept you capture is magnificent, "Time" from Inception as well comes to mind). Some are obviously and undeniably potent like "A Dog Chasing Cars" or, going way back to when I learned of your work, "The Battle" from Gladiator which reminded me of "Mars, the Bringer of War", -- or even the latest "Sea Wall".<br><br>  Admittedly this is odd but I can't help but wonder if despite all the solicitations you must receive it seemed to me I might as well send the following two-fold feedback: in the same way I was pleased to learn that Daft Punk was handling the soundtrack for the modern remake of TRON (and what a fine job they did) I was also heartened to find that you were handling the soundtrack for Blade Runner 2049. It seemed a good sign to me at the time and I knew I would buy a ticket at that point. That was a movie (BR2049) I was worried they would BOTCH much in the same way they completely did whatever it was they did with remake of Total Recall (in which they completely stripped it of its cerebral essence and made it a very long chase-scene). <br><br>  All of this is to express some appreciation and also plug an obscure pianist from Montreal who has been on the CBC and all that, who, when I spoke to him after a show and compared some of his energetic imaginative work (Nostos comes to mind, and damn he hit 99% of those complex piano notes) to your's he admitted it was a dream of his to work with you under any capacity. Of course I suspect nothing will come of this but either way I think it harmless to tip my hat your way as a long-time fan who has utilized your music for motivation many, many, many times and also note that on my esoteric playlists five or six came from you and one or two came from him (Nostos, Il, Hypoctite)<br><br> Lastly, it should be noted for the historians that one time Jean-Michel Blais saved us Canadians (if you do the collective math based on viewership) a great deal of time and intellectual agony. Chevy was running commercials during the NHL playoffs (last year, not the the latest Washington Capitals win) in which an irritating scenario of "real people" were supposed to judge cars/trucks that popped out from behind sliding doors or lifted from basements (aircraft-carrier-style), and the poor fools/actors/allegedly "real people" had to say something nice about it all. It was such garbage. How splendid, how refreshing, then, that they ran a good commercial with someone just winding corners and enjoying driving the damn car to the music, which I recognized as JMB's "Hypocrite". He saved the society a good 10k hours of perniciousness.<br><br>Whew! That's all from me. Love the music, keep it up. Please give JMB a shot I think you'll find his attitude/ethic/skills refreshing. Regardless of that at least it was worthwhile of me to express my appreciation for ten years of masterful original music on your part anyway.Separate question:<br><br>Is Toby Chu part of RCP? I think he had some connections at least right?Why wouldn't Hans go all-out for something that's going to be viewed on this scale? I mean, how hard is it to compose 45 seconds of compelling, original music when you've worked on innumerable 2+ hour films?Woah, Hans actually did good work on this; it's admittedly a bit anonymous-sounding, but the combination of percussion, strings, and choir works in a way that's reminiscent of Angels & Demons (oh, those were the days...).John just precised this point, i was just too impatient ;)
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  1. Symphony In Oh (3:29)
  2. Gratuity's Apartment (1:58)
  3. Saying The Sorry (2:45)
  4. Two Fugitives (3:04)
  5. Come Into The Out Now (2:47)
  6. Smek Down (4:18)
  7. Patched-In (4:08)
  8. Moving Day (2:47)
  9. Sad-Mad (2:22)
  10. Running Towards Danger (2:16)
  11. Knock-Knock (2:39)
  12. Returning The Shusher (3:41)
  13. Frolicking In Paris (3:30)
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Ds reply Replies: 1 || 2016-01-10 15:20:58
While waiting for "13 Hours", I'm replaying all the Lorne stuff I have on my computer... I didn't really pay attention to this one when it came out, but it's so nice and catchy. Lorne amazes me more and more, and I think the best is yet to come!


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-10 15:57:25
Yep very underrated one... :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 10 || 2015-03-26 20:31:39
I added a suite... Check this out, it's great... :)


Mike2015-03-26 21:26:34
Very nice.

I gotta say, it's pretty cool that Hans Zimmer's methods allow composers like Lorne to get their own careers kickstarted. asking this honestly, would anyone know about Lorne Balfe if he hadn't worked with Hans all those years?


Leo2015-03-27 10:00:03
Alexandre Desplat doesn't work for RCP, and he's one of the busiest and most well known composers working in Hollywood today.


rockhound2015-03-28 10:27:50
sounds wonderful. nice orchestration and very catchy themes. a lil bit john powell style i would say. i have to say, i prefer the orchestral balfe than the synth balfe, although this music sounds like a very good mix of both.


JamesT2015-03-30 02:42:33
This is a great suite!!! Fun, fun music.

Hybrid: on another note, do you know anything about a soundtrack for Killing Jesus, The Woman In Gold, or A.D.?


Anonymous2015-04-04 20:00:13
I love the first cue that appears in the suite until around 3:20. Is that "Symphony In Oh"?


Mike2015-04-04 20:15:32
Yeah, this score has some very fun music. Though I can't help thinking of Kung Fu Panda 2 with some of it! :P


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 20:30:27
Yes it is the first track ! :)


rockhound2015-04-12 19:23:36
i love this score. what a wonderful music. very thematic, excited, playful and emotional. lovely orchestral score by lorne.


Scarecrow92015-04-17 18:25:20
LOVE IT, is it possible to buy it in Lossless, anywhere else than on QOBUZ?


sepehr 2015-06-30 21:42:16
it was great.

Leo reply Replies: 2 || 2015-04-17 04:03:08
Who's Stargate? O:


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-17 08:59:32
Stargate is the band who wrote the songs...

The official movie credit is Music by LB & Stargate... So it's like that on the cover, but there's nothing of theirs in the score... It's all LB...


Leo2015-04-17 17:33:57
Songs =/= Score

it's a little different I must say, lol

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2015-04-04 17:42:22
So I just realized looking at Lorne's page...Wow...tons of projects he's working on!

macarenox reply Replies: 0 || 2015-04-03 22:36:08
It is similar to Megamind and Madagascar. LIKE

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2015-04-03 16:13:54
Cover Released :D
filmmusicreporter. com/2015/04/02/home-score-album- details/

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 22 || 2015-03-26 08:38:19
The artwork just got approved, it should be out in a couple of weeks... :)

And yes Lorne is scoring Terminator 5... lol


ggctuk2015-03-26 11:16:27
An interesting turn of events indeed. I wonder what kind of score it will be like. I confess to being completely unaware of his works because I've never watched or played anything he scored. I kind of hope for a synthetic influence, actually, to harken back to the Brad Fiedel days.


Bioscope2015-03-26 15:44:38
I think this could be brilliant. the darkest moments in Transformers 2 featured his contributions, if I am right. He is comfortable with scoring mechanised characters.


Anonymous2015-03-26 22:05:31
right. just like daft punk "scored" tron legacy. lorne balfe will score one of the biggest american franchises ever. he'll have help.


ggctuk2015-03-26 22:15:03
Perhaps it's just me being naive, but I'm also hoping for a proper version of the Terminator theme. Elfman was told not to do it in the last one and Beltrami did do a full version but it only got used in the end credits.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-26 22:33:53
What's that supposed to mean, Anonymous? Lorne Balfe is an actual film composer, not a pop/electronica group - why the skepticism?

Whether he'll have help or not is a separate question. This is RC after all. And there's no problem with that.


ggctuk2015-03-26 23:19:08
I'm told Zimmer will be taking an "executive music producer" credit.


Anonymous2015-03-27 02:30:07
daft punk did not do as much on legacy as they get credited for. zimmer was paid a huge hush hush check for his involvement which was very heavy. i work in the industry so i know it's true. but i am sure this hybrid soldier will tell you otherwise

zimmer will no doubt do most of the work for terminator 5. this makes me happy though. it's how tron legacy turned out to be so awesome


thejok3rrules2015-03-27 06:34:02
Conspiracy theories everywhere, I guess.


Zimson2015-03-27 07:20:45
The fact that you're trying to tell us you have secret insights into RCP no one else has because you "work in the industry" is somewhat ridiculous.
It's true that even composers such as JNH work as ghost writers for big studio or music productions from time to time but that doesn't compensate for a reputable source you obviously don't have.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-27 08:14:22
But the Tron situation is different. I think it's not that surprising to hear that an electronica duo with zero experience in film scoring or orchestral music had a bit of help behind the scenes - honestly, I'd have been more surprised had they NOT had help.

But Balfe has been around for a while and done tons of scores proving his ability in a lot of different situations. I'm not ruling out that someone, even Zimmer, may eventually end up contributing to that Terminator flick with the stupid name (this is 2015 Hollywood film scoring after all - the notion of a solo score is becoming kind of quaint), but there's no reason to treat it with the same skepticism as Tron.


Boldizar2015-03-27 13:49:45
So Genysis dropped Beck?


Anonymous2015-03-27 19:47:21
well thats exactly it edmund. there was no way disney was going to hire to musicians who have never composed for film before for a film of that magniude. same thing happened with star dust and many other films. think ramin djawadi did iron man all by himself? zimmer helped. a lot.

but i think zimmer will end up doing all the heavy lifting for terminator. sure lorne is a successful composer but name one big film hes scored, one as big as terminator. one where he did nearly all the work and had little to no help. none. but i am very curious to hear what becomes of it. nevertheless i am very excited to hear what zimmer and balfe come up with


Macejko2015-03-27 20:12:37
We know pretty much everything there is to know about Iron Man and every other score-wise troubled production that involved RCP, Anonymous. You are bringing sand to Sahara.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-27 23:15:07
Dude, just because Zimmer has helped out on a handful of tricky situations in the past does NOT guarantee that he's going to do it on Terminator! Why the heck are you so sure of yourself?

And Balfe may not have any solo action tentpoles to his name, but he does have some fairly big animated movies and - more importantly - has worked on practically every Zimmer score of the last decade or so (including some HUGE stuff like Inception, Dark Knight and Pirates...the sort of things this Terminator flick dreams of being as successful as). I have no doubt that the people who decided to hire him are aware of that last fact. He's hardly this untested newcomer you're making him out to be!


thejok3rrules2015-03-28 18:20:27
Lorne has also handled two Assassin's Creed scores, which are major projects, so I'm not surprised he's been given the chance of scoring T5.

Plus, nor the director or the producers of Genesys give a shit about the music in this one. The whole project's only purpose is to make millions with something people know and (used to) love. There's no creativity required for Terminator: Genesys, they could have picked anybody else.

I do wish Lorne Balfe does great. (As I l know he can)


mpolonest1232015-03-28 19:18:49
Genesys is just going to be another big cash grab, milking whatever little value this series has left.

As far as Lorne scoring this, I'm fairly excited. He did a fantastic job on Beyond: Two Souls which people always seem to forget exists. And if memory serves me right, Zimmer also produced that score.


Ds2015-03-28 22:10:53
Lol it looks like absolutely nobody is expecting this movie. I wonder if it´s going to bomb. It looks so bad and uninspired, and its director is responsible for the worst Marvel movie to date... I bet Lorne's music will be the only good thing in this movie.


NotSoAnonymous2015-03-29 01:49:22
@Ds, What Marvel movie are you referring to?


NotSoAnonymous2015-03-29 01:51:54
Nevermind. I thought we were talking about Tim Johnson (Home)


Boldizar 2015-03-29 22:49:04
I was extremely turned off by the idea for more Terminator films... Then I saw the trailer. I actually think Genisys has the potential to be really good. I get the feeling whomever wrote the script actually found an interesting spin on it.


Ds2015-03-29 23:46:37
Well for me it´s just the opposite, it´s when I saw the trailer that I realized how bad it looked like :-p


ggctuk2015-03-30 10:48:36
It can't be any worse than the previous two films. And it does seem to be offering something different to the previous films anyway. The idea seems to be the idea presented in the first film that the future is "one possible future" instead flipped around so that the future is set, but the past is "one possible past". It's an intriguing idea, as are some of the ideas alleged to be what we'll get in the film (I won't spoil those here).

The big discussion here, though, is the score. I'm hoping for a better presentation of the main theme, there's now the chance to properly reprise the T-1000 motif as well. I'm thinking that the approach should be something like an inbetween of Elfman's score for Salvation and Trond Viggo-Melsen's music for the Salvation video game.

Russel reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-27 02:18:04
Around 4:00 I hear some Madagascar :)

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-26 15:09:52
awsoome!!! another reason to looking forward new Termie :)

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