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what about dunkirk : ) what do you think of it?Have any cue sheets or slates surfaced for this score?...that response only made you look more suspicious, as it was so pre-programmed feeling.@AndrewP *Robocop voice* obey the law or get erased creepSo if I say I love the score and itís amazing then Iím a bot !!!!!!!!! What a rediculois theory
Hi, I'm new to this site and a big fan of Zimmer. Blade Runner is definitely one of his best works (and don't forget Wallfisch). Anyways, I'm definitely anticipating Denis Villeneuve's upcoming Dune film and I wonder if he'll go to Zimmer to do the project. That would be awesome if that happened.This place is not exactly a democracy, if something is not of my liking I get rid of it. Plain & simple.^^<br><br>For the sake of fairness, I think the admins should delete both the guys spamming the thread with whining, as well as the Balfe-bots spamming the thread with positivity while simultaneously denouncing "haters." (This does not apply to most people in the thread, but you know who I mean.)I created a suite of what I believe are the best cues on the album, and attempted to make some interesting variations with the cues themselves in terms of transitions and such. Tracks included are Fallout, The Exchange, Escape Through Paris, Stairs and Rooftops, Free Fall, and Mission: Accomplished. Feel free to check it out, it helps make the whole score feel more melodic in my opinion!<br><br>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCioYxbgNsqFhZ15onqcTlFA/vid eosBalfe haters will hate this !!!<br><br>But itís amazing . <br><br>Itís emotional then EPIC!<br><br>
It can only be purchased at the Kynren site in Bishop Auckland, UK, during the show season. Google Kynren and hope to see you there soon! :) Hope this helps. Kind RegardsAgree with this 100%People are on here shitting on Giacchino and Powell saying Rouge One has a better score or people saying Solo has a better score and Iím over here like yep still listening to the Star Wars Original Trilogy And Prequel Trilogy scores over here. But I think they both gave Williams Justice and did good.@HunterTech - because Cruise and the studio *really* wanted him back after Rogue Nation's success, despite the producers' initial plan for the franchise being to have each entry done by a different director. Hence, McQuarrie's condition that he'll be back as long as he does a completely different film.<br><br>And context is important because once you realise the *film itself* is heavily influenced by Nolan with a big dash of Fury Road-esque building action momentum, then the decision to have Balfe on board and the score to sound all Zimmer/RCP as opposed to more symphonic a-la Kraemer/Giacchino makes sense.So.......why not get a new director then? I admire his efforts in trying to attempt something different for every sequel, but he's eventually gonna get tired if he keeps coming back. Plus, there's been evidence that surfaced to suggest that there was a very specific reason in Kraemer not returning, which don't necessarily contradict what McQ is saying here.<br><br>Despite all this, I'm very excited for Fallout as a whole. I've been able to enjoy films with disappointing scores before (*cough*BR2049*cough*).
Mephariel, fair enough. I see your point as well.<br><br>mpolonest123, I see your point.<br><br>But looking back at the MI2 score now, compared to some recent MV/RC stuff......it's just heads and tails above them. Again, that's just my opinion. There is a clear theme here, there is an actual structure. Not just some noisy sound effects thrown in the blender.@HunterTech - McQ said at every opportunity that a condition of his coming back would be making MI Fallout as if a different director was doing it. Which is why he got a new DoP, new composer, new costume designer etcBecause that opinion is clearly wrong when Dunkirk came out in 2017.I can't agree with Genius: Picasso. I like the score, but it doesn't have enough direction. Just a lot of soundscaping. It is like the score is just there. <br><br>Balfe has this same problem with a lot of his scores.<br><br>I am so tire of people claiming Balfe has potential. It is like a basketball fan constantly claiming that Player X is two years away from being two years away. Every year people say Balfe is going to do something great. I am still waiting for this. That said, I haven't listened to MI:6 yet.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - On Stranger Tides (Complete Score)
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  1. Opening (3:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  2. The Courtroom (1:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  3. Paddy Wagon (2:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson (Klaus Badelt)
  4. Palace Courtyard (0:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  5. Creampuff - King's Entrance (1:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  6. Barbossa's Entrance (2:03)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel (Blake Neely)
  7. Jack's Escape (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  8. Carriage Chase (2:09)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  9. Filthy Pirate (0:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea (Klaus Badelt)
  10. Imposter Swordfight (2:55)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  11. Meet Angelica - Jack & Angelica Bicker (2:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  12. British Attack (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  13. Gibbs Burns Map (2:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  14. Aboard The Queen Anne's Revenge (1:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  15. First Mate Is A Her - The Prophecy (2:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  16. Barbossa Seeks Heading (0:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  17. Spanish Ignore Barbossa (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Guillaume Roussel
  18. Spanish Still Ignore Barbossa (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  19. Mutiny Meeting (0:47)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  20. Mutiny (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  21. Blackbeard's Entrance - Mutineers Hang (2:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  22. Upside Down Jack (0:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
  23. Fry The Cook (3:00)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  24. Blackbeard's Cabin (2:09)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  25. Barbossa Having Tea (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  26. Barbossa Rallies The Crew (0:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  27. The Dance - Bottle Room - Voodoo Doll (3:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson (Klaus Badelt)
  28. Mermaid Hunt - Mermaid Tale (2:41)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  29. Mermaids Appear - Mermaids Attack (9:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  30. The Beach - To The Fountain - Jungle Trek (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  31. Syrena Needs Air (0:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  32. The Cliff (0:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  33. Jack Jumps (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
  34. Shirtless - Naming Syrena - Ponce De Leon (5:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  35. Chest Sting (0:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  36. Don't Touch The Map (0:47)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel (Klaus Badelt)
  37. Ole (0:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  38. Mermaid Pools (1:00)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  39. Mermaids Are Tough (2:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  40. Spanish Camp (3:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  41. Mermaid Tears (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson (Klaus Badelt)
  42. Palm Tree Grove (2:03)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  43. Jazz Hands (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  44. Is That It? (1:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  45. Water Drop (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  46. Aqua De Vida (0:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  47. The Fountain Of Youth (2:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  48. The Faceoff (1:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  49. Battle For The Fountain Of Youth (Part 1) (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  50. Battle For The Fountain Of Youth (Part 2) (1:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  51. Philip Returns To Syrena (0:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  52. The Battle Continues (0:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  53. Spanish Arrive (2:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  54. Angelica Cut (3:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli (Klaus Badelt)
  55. Blackbeard's Demise (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler (Klaus Badelt)
  56. Syrena Saves Philip (1:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  57. One Pistol, One Shot (0:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  58. Jack Leaves Angelica (1:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  59. Make Way For Tortuga (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  60. Jack & Gibbs (1:41)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  61. End Credits (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  62. Voodoo Dool (0:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  63. Angelica Theme (4:16)
    Hans Zimmer
  64. Mermaids Theme (5:10)
    Hans Zimmer
  65. The Pirate That Should Not Be (Theme Idea) (3:55)
    Hans Zimmer, Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  66. South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids (Theme Idea) (5:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  67. Angry & Dead Again (Theme Idea) (5:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  68. Paddy Wagon (Alternate) (0:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  69. Aboard The Queen Anne's Revenge (Alternate) (0:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
  70. Blackbeard's Cabin (Alternate) (1:11)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  71. Barbossa Having Tea (Alternate) (0:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  72. Mermaid Hunt (Alternate) (1:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  73. The Cliff (Alternate) (0:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  74. Naming Syrena (Alternate I) (1:58)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  75. Naming Syrena (Alternate II) (0:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  76. Naming Syrena (Alternate III) (0:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  77. Don't Touch The Map (0:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  78. Mermaids Are Tough (2:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
  79. Jazz Hands (Alternate) (0:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  80. Battle For The Fountain Of Youth (Part 1) (Alternate I) (0:23)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  81. Battle For The Fountain Of Youth (Part 1) (Alternate II) (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  82. Blackbeard's Demise (Alternate) (0:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  83. Jack & Gibbs (Alternate I) (0:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  84. Jack & Gibbs (Alternate II) (0:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  85. Mermaids Theme (Alternate) (5:11)
    Hans Zimmer
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2018-04-04 12:16:19
Was Eduardo Cruz actually involved at all with the Angelica theme? Because he's credited on the OST but not here, similar to Eric Whitacre...

theGordo reply Replies: 4 || 2017-12-26 13:21:53
Whats funny is that angelica and mermaids both got like a suite, but blackbeard didn't??? Hmmm...


james (now james callahan)2017-12-26 19:42:18
Blackbeard also is a suite!


Medigo2017-12-27 01:53:41
Mermaids is more like a microedited combination of the whole mermaid hunt/tale/attack scene

and Blackbeard I would call his two scenes pasted together with his deathscene music


ak2017-12-28 01:21:01
wasn't Blackpeard 50% reused music from previous scores?


theGordo2017-12-30 04:42:53
even so. Blackbeard was a song on the official OST, and being reused music eeeehhh dooesssnn't really explain the lack of a suite here, but I'm not completely bummed out by it.

theGordo reply Replies: 1 || 2017-12-15 17:24:26
...why is Eric Whitacre's credit being omitted?


James (now James Callahan)2017-12-16 14:44:17
What's the involvement of EW in the Mermaid Suite? I always imagined it that way: Hans being responsible for the first part of the suite, the calmest, Geoff taking care of the piece that corresponds to the moment of the sirens attack and that Eric inserted the choir to finish the composition.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-07-24 03:30:50
This might seriously be overthinking things but I think I understand why Barbossa's theme in this film happens to be the third Beckett motif. Rewatching AWE it seems this theme always appears when a betrayal is happening. Considering Barbossa is "allied" with the British navy it somewhat makes sense that the betrayal theme is used for him. Realistically I'm sure it's just another bad temp but it's still fun to imagine what Zimmer and Co. were thinking here...


Iamtommie2017-11-17 19:01:26
Can I ask why everybody is so negative about this score.
I actually really love it. New themes for Spaniard, Mermaids and Blackbeard are good.
Okay, Hans re-used stuff from the previous 3 but it's still a great score.

Why does everybody else think it's bad? Would somebody please explain this to me


Olive2017-11-17 20:52:26
Because they mixed several passages of past scores into scenes completely disconnected from those for which the music was composed at first. There is a chase scene with the music for the maelstrom. The love theme for Will and Elisabeth comes up without either of them being in the movie or in scenes that nerver mention their names. The same with the theme for Beckett. And half of the commercial CD was remixes of DJs


Alexander2017-11-17 21:06:05
I don't think everybody thinks it's bad you just have to look at the development of the franchise. In the first pirates we got very nice melodys and tunes that are still legendary and so they set the tune for all the other pirates movies. In the second one we got a much darker yet very good developed score that has again new themes for new characters but uses themes from the first one as well. Then the third movie came along and everybody can think about the film what he wants but the music... man the music from the third one is really the cherry on the top of the entire franchise cause here we got all themes in new majestic versions plus one of the most beautyful love themes ever. So now you would think "Ok, I guess by judging by the development, the next one will be at least as great as the last one" but instead of this case we just got old themes in flat versions and the music is not bad but it just has not this kind of drive like the others. For sure if this score would have been the first one, the crowd would have reacted differently but hey, the movie wasn't that good as well so I guess it all equals out :D

:) reply Replies: 13 || 2016-01-21 22:52:04
I hear from a close source (I can't say) that Zimmer is going to do pirates 5 but will be more focused on Nolans new film Dunkirk coming out at the same time.


Dimitris Krommidas2016-01-21 23:41:38
I hope it's true!


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-22 00:06:40
Let me seriously doubt that... lol


rockhound2016-01-22 00:11:34
i would love to hear a trevor rabin score for this movie, although we would get more new themes than he would use the old ones. but i would love to hear a new take on this franchise.


Edmund Meinerts2016-01-22 08:17:49
Even though I still think Geoff Zanelli is a pretty great choice, I would be TOTALLY on board with a Trevor Rabin Pirates score. If anyone's got the fun-thematic old-school MV sound down, he does.

Actually, even better - Mark Mancina! He's a little better with orchestra than Trevor. Plus has a rapport with Disney. Would be awesome. :D


Brent2016-01-22 09:07:30
Geoff is certainly my top choice, but do you know what my absolute dream would be (and one that would certainly never ever happen)? A freakin' John Powell Pirates score. ;)


rockhound2016-01-22 09:11:34
Pan is a kind of pirtaes score by powell. but mark mancina would also be a really nice choice. i hope we will get to know at least this year, who will compose the music.


0-^-02016-01-22 10:37:13
Personally, I care not who gets this gig.

All I want is something in the spirit of what Pirates 2/3 - particularly 3 - were to the original. Whoever can deliver this please come aboard!


Macejko2016-01-22 11:28:49
I would sell my kidney to hear Mark Mancina do the Pirates!


Solidsnoke2016-01-22 16:53:10
Hans was great on POTC but Disney totally messed up the fourth score so I can understand Hans won't do the next


Scorefan2016-01-22 20:10:07
My choices:
1.- Geoff Zanelli
2.- Trevor Rabin & Mark Mancina
3.- Alan Silvestri
4.- John Debney

Zimmer won't go back to score Pirates 5. That's sure.


Prott2016-01-23 13:35:52
Macejko: My kidney is in as well! :) It would be awesome to hear a pirates score by The M.M.!


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-26 19:24:11
And btw, I can confirm AGAIN, Hans won't be doing POTC 5... ;)


Eric2017-03-28 01:11:07
Geoff Zanelli who has worked on every Pirates film is doing Pirates 5

crazyackleholic reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-25 21:27:35
Is track 70 a full alternate take or an insert? Same question regarding track 82.


Anonymous2016-12-27 13:31:47
These 're demos.

Daniel reply Replies: 1 || 2016-05-28 04:12:27
Should the tracklist reflect the use of other previous composers' themes? I'm sure there's lots of composers from 1 2 and 3 whose themes were adapted in this score. Should they get a (parentheses) credit as well? That's why his name is in parentheses right? because theyre using his themes?


Anonymous2016-05-28 07:43:14
Yes. Same with dead man's chest and at worlds end

Daniel reply Replies: 8 || 2015-09-13 22:36:36
Anyone knows if Hans gonna make soundtrack for potc 5??


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-13 22:56:37
No he is not... Let's hope Geoff does it... :)


Anonymous2015-09-14 02:14:14
I can't imagine a Pirates movie without Badelt/Zimmer's music themes. At least, they bring one of POTC old collaborations (RCP). My bet is for Balfe, Zanelli, Morris or Jackman.


Joshua2015-09-14 06:59:34
Zanelli was in RCP, and his influence is all over the previous scores. He had alot to do on the first one.


Ds2015-09-14 10:56:30
Hybrid, wasn't Geoff already confirmed? I thought I read it somewhere a while ago but can't remember exactly :-p


Anonymous2015-09-14 11:48:48
I've been following the production of this film on the net and I got this vibe that it might be troubled production with lots of hiatus and push backs and changes. Hope this is not carried over to the score.


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-14 16:42:03
Geoff is in talks with production for quite some time. It's too early to say anything officially.


Zimson2015-09-14 17:56:58
I really hope they give the gig to someone who was involved in the previous scores, Geoff or Henry would be great.
The score should feel like it is continuing a series.


Edmund Meinerts2015-09-14 17:59:42
They certainly have no shortage of people who have already worked on the series! They could make up to a Pirates 20 and never use the same guy twice and still keep it within the family...lol

Medigo reply Replies: 5 || 2015-03-11 12:27:12
true
allthough with how the movie uses some inserts and not others
Its not easy to get a clear list anyway


Tobias2015-03-18 09:38:57
I can't find the track Nr. 47 "The Fountain Of Youth"....


Anonymous2015-03-18 13:20:12
Look again. If you can't find it where it should be, Geoff Zanelli also released it on his website a couple years ago.


Bioscope2015-03-18 16:51:19
6m57 untitled....


Anonymous2015-07-18 18:20:02
Anyone find a way to download this track (#47 "The Fountain of Youth")?

I found it on Zanelli's website as someone suggested, but I don't know how to download it off a website like that one.


Bioscope2015-07-19 06:16:26
Go into your browser 'treasure chest'....

speedrun reply Replies: 3 || 2015-04-29 19:06:12
So Matthew Margeson wrote the Blackbeard theme? Cool.


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-29 19:46:59
Nope, the cue is Hans' demo, orchestrated by Matthew...


speedrun2015-04-29 19:55:18
oh my bad. I got confused with credits because I didnt see a Blackbeard Theme like the other ones.

What does orchestrated mean?


Anonymous2015-04-30 05:33:04
@speedrun

Do what? Really?

Leoj reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-29 19:45:47
What is the name of the track 2m18A?


Felix2015-03-29 22:40:41
It's an Untitled Cue


Bioscope2015-03-30 05:57:23
It is represented here as track 69 and serves as an intro to Aboard the QAR.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 9 || 2015-03-10 14:15:48
I'll finish with cover later... lol


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 16:46:32
Who cares? The score sucked as much as the movie.


Medigo2015-03-10 19:38:41
It has some nice new material
contrary to what that abomination of an album release would like us to believe


john2015-03-10 20:18:41
dont know why my message was removed but can you leak spiderman 2 as well?


Medigo2015-03-11 11:17:52
btw I could have sworn that

'Aboard The Queen Anne's Revenge Alternate' does play in the movie, but that its placed in the scene before the actual aboard the QAR scene

There is music playing when jack Sparrow wakes up after all

also shouldnt some of these alternates just be called 'Inserts'?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-11 11:49:37
Yeah but it was written to at the same place...

Well an insert is by definition an alternate version of a segment... ;)


NM2015-03-11 13:35:31
Sorry Medigo but I have to disagree, of course this is nice to have for "completeness" sake, but unlike The Lone Ranger which has some great little gems, this is *still* not a great score.

There's some highlights like the Mermaid scene stuff, but I'm amazed that a cue as terrible as "Carriage Chase" was even recorded. With the full orchestra it actually sounds worse as the awkward transitions, weird stilted tempo change and then the utterly anonymous and generic ending are more apparent.


Medigo2015-03-11 13:51:00
well I didnt say all the tracks were good
but I appreciate all the new spanish material and versions of the mermaid theme

even if the scenes they went with were ugh


Anonymous2015-03-11 16:24:19
An insert is not necessarily an alternate.


NM2015-03-13 21:24:47
@Medigo

The Mermaid theme (and the attack music) is definitely very very good I'll grant you that. And you can hear glimpses of what they probably wanted to do with the Spanish stuff.

I would've loved to be have been there when they were recording "Blackbeard's Demise V2", they must've been laughing their asses off!

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