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He’s definitely not a bad reviewer, and his writing style is pretty sharp. The obvious problem is that he has a strong bias against Zimmer. Most of his recent Zimmer reviews are less spent talking about themes and more so the “issues” with his current style.'At World's End' is possibly one of his greatest 'missteps' for sure, but he is a mostly reasonable guy when reviewing, and simply has a taste that doesn't accomodate a lot of the more modern sounding scores, which I think is ok, since we all have our preferences. His 'Solo' review is a must read for any fan of the score though. :DIf you want to understand why he's persona non grata, just go and check out his review of Hans Zimmer's masterpiece At World's End, it sums up pretty nicely the guy's mental issues :p<br><br>But his other reviews are mostly OK and that Solo one is indeed very good, worth a read.Who is he and why is he a persona non grata? ô_OHow dare you mention his name ??<br><br>I should erase that post... :P
What site are his reviews on again? Not really sure where to look.As long as Steve knows to keep this score mostly melodic with little to no sound design, I'll probably be happy with it.I assume that's the official cover....<br><br>I dig it. Very Die Hard-y : )I know Clemmensen is kind of persona non grata around here (not without good reason), but he put up his review of Solo a few days ago and it's one of the best he's ever written, a fantastic in-depth analysis (and appropriately positive). Worth spending an hour or two reading and listening to help unpack this score's many complexities.Is it just me or does the “Catwoman” riff (not the main theme) in “Bar Shootout” and “Nothing Out There” sound very much like the main Scarface theme?<br><br>I’ve also noticed that Hans sometimes will write a main tune and a series of riffs for a character, but will mainly incorporate the smaller motifs in the film (Angelica’s music from OST, Megamind’s main tune, Catwoman, etc.) Definitely not a problem though, I like the variety.<br><br>Look at the evolution of Batman’s theme from Begins, where he had the 2-note motif and the actual theme, to here where it’s just the 2 notes and the chord theme. I wonder if that was Chris Nolan’s decision.
John Powell answered in Facebook there is still 45 minutes of music outside from the CD.Yep, he knows how to do BIG and small moments. He's so versatile. I'm praying rian johnson uses him for his new trilogyThank you! Glad you enjoyed it.If there is one who can replace John Williams on Star Wars than is it John Powell!!<br><br>Great Job!!It sounds great ! I think I will listen to the CD after the hamburg concert, to keep the surprise, because they will play some cues there ! <br><br>Are some french JP fans going to Hamburg next week ? It would be great to have a beer and talk about film music !
Dear Mr. Zimmer (or those interested), <br><br>  Over the years I have always enjoyed some of the higher-intensity compositions you have produced and made a point of putting my money where my mouth is and actually buying the soundtracks - money well spent. I've used specific songs of your's to get through moments of fatigue at work and also to prepare (silly as it may sound) for sporting events, even working out or running. I found them better than any rock or even electronic-type energetic music, until such a point, naturally, that I'd listened to them too many times and the magic wore off. Some of your songs rise to a crescendo that sometimes are powerful but perhaps lost on those who are unfamiliar with the corresponding movie scene ("Flight" from Man of Steel, it rises gradually but the concept you capture is magnificent, "Time" from Inception as well comes to mind). Some are obviously and undeniably potent like "A Dog Chasing Cars" or, going way back to when I learned of your work, "The Battle" from Gladiator which reminded me of "Mars, the Bringer of War", -- or even the latest "Sea Wall".<br><br>  Admittedly this is odd but I can't help but wonder if despite all the solicitations you must receive it seemed to me I might as well send the following two-fold feedback: in the same way I was pleased to learn that Daft Punk was handling the soundtrack for the modern remake of TRON (and what a fine job they did) I was also heartened to find that you were handling the soundtrack for Blade Runner 2049. It seemed a good sign to me at the time and I knew I would buy a ticket at that point. That was a movie (BR2049) I was worried they would BOTCH much in the same way they completely did whatever it was they did with remake of Total Recall (in which they completely stripped it of its cerebral essence and made it a very long chase-scene). <br><br>  All of this is to express some appreciation and also plug an obscure pianist from Montreal who has been on the CBC and all that, who, when I spoke to him after a show and compared some of his energetic imaginative work (Nostos comes to mind, and damn he hit 99% of those complex piano notes) to your's he admitted it was a dream of his to work with you under any capacity. Of course I suspect nothing will come of this but either way I think it harmless to tip my hat your way as a long-time fan who has utilized your music for motivation many, many, many times and also note that on my esoteric playlists five or six came from you and one or two came from him (Nostos, Il, Hypoctite)<br><br> Lastly, it should be noted for the historians that one time Jean-Michel Blais saved us Canadians (if you do the collective math based on viewership) a great deal of time and intellectual agony. Chevy was running commercials during the NHL playoffs (last year, not the the latest Washington Capitals win) in which an irritating scenario of "real people" were supposed to judge cars/trucks that popped out from behind sliding doors or lifted from basements (aircraft-carrier-style), and the poor fools/actors/allegedly "real people" had to say something nice about it all. It was such garbage. How splendid, how refreshing, then, that they ran a good commercial with someone just winding corners and enjoying driving the damn car to the music, which I recognized as JMB's "Hypocrite". He saved the society a good 10k hours of perniciousness.<br><br>Whew! That's all from me. Love the music, keep it up. Please give JMB a shot I think you'll find his attitude/ethic/skills refreshing. Regardless of that at least it was worthwhile of me to express my appreciation for ten years of masterful original music on your part anyway.Separate question:<br><br>Is Toby Chu part of RCP? I think he had some connections at least right?Why wouldn't Hans go all-out for something that's going to be viewed on this scale? I mean, how hard is it to compose 45 seconds of compelling, original music when you've worked on innumerable 2+ hour films?Woah, Hans actually did good work on this; it's admittedly a bit anonymous-sounding, but the combination of percussion, strings, and choir works in a way that's reminiscent of Angels & Demons (oh, those were the days...).John just precised this point, i was just too impatient ;)
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Hans ZimmerGeoff ZanelliRupert Gregson-WilliamsLorne Balfe
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The Lone Ranger (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 127'14
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  1. Logos - Exhibit (1:33)
  2. Meet Old Tonto (1:14)
  3. This Is A Robbery (1:16)
  4. Building Railroad (1:13)
  5. The Rangers (1:02)
  6. Meet John (1:05)
  7. Cavendish (0:35)
  8. Cavendish Gang - Gun (2:05)
  9. Gang Boards - Cavendish Escapes (3:59)
  10. Runaway Train (5:30)
  11. Arrest Trio (0:42)
  12. John & Becca (1:50)
  13. Tonto Chant (0:48)
  14. Ride Out - Spirit Horse (2:53)
  15. Tracking (1:30)
  16. No Cover (0:53)
  17. Ambush (1:29)
  18. Cannibal (2:37)
  19. Dead Rangers (1:28)
  20. Old Tonto Pre Burial (0:36)
  21. Burial (1:04)
  22. Spirit Horse - John (1:08)
  23. Poop (0:21)
  24. John's Vision (0:31)
  25. Precarious Perch (0:24)
  26. Sneaking (0:38)
  27. Silver Bullet (0:41)
  28. Justice (1:58)
  29. Windingo Getting Away (0:32)
  30. Silver Vision (0:21)
  31. Leaving Reds (1:58)
  32. Comanche On Ridge (0:42)
  33. Ranch Attack (0:44)
  34. Embers (1:19)
  35. Barn Burn - Stand Off (2:51)
  36. Limp Crow (0:17)
  37. Wrong Brother (1:12)
  38. Valley Of Tears (0:48)
  39. Collins & Dead Horse (2:08)
  40. Because I Am Savage (2:02)
  41. Comanche Border Train (1:18)
  42. Old Tonto Pauses (0:15)
  43. Young Tonto - Silver Discovery (2:02)
  44. Aftermath Village Slaughter (2:05)
  45. Scorpions (2:11)
  46. Where The River Begins (0:47)
  47. Frank In Tunnel (0:27)
  48. Cave Walkout (0:47)
  49. Finish Him (3:16)
  50. John Captures Cavendish (0:31)
  51. Alexander The Great (0:53)
  52. Prayer (2:09)
  53. Stupid White Man (0:30)
  54. Supply Car (1:00)
  55. Daddy Dead (4:38)
  56. Build To Execution (3:27)
  57. Night Mine (2:58)
  58. Aftermath - Wear The Mask (2:08)
  59. Ignition (0:39)
  60. Bank Robbery (0:27)
  61. Train Chase (Part 1) (10:09)
  62. Train Chase (Part 2) (1:09)
  63. World Evolving (3:15)
  64. Crow (0:25)
  65. End Credits (2:53)
  66. Home Suite (6:54)
  67. Absurdity Suite (4:03)
  68. Silver Suite (4:03)
  69. Poop (Alternate) (0:21)
  70. Leaving Reds (Alternate) (0:23)
  71. Wrong Brother (Alternate) (1:12)
  72. Frank In Tunnel (Alternate) (0:26)
  73. Prayer (Alternate) (1:52)
  74. World Evolving (Alternate) (0:55)
  75. Crow (Alternate) (0:25)
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 10 || 2018-05-02 11:11:49
Listening to this complete score and once again it strikes me how much weaker, quieter, less punchy recording sessions frequently sound when compared to the equivalent album tracks. The Pirates of the Caribbean completes have the same problem. It puts me in kind of a conundrum because take from this score "Runaway Train" vs. its album track "The Railroad Waits for No One". The percussion in particular sounds so much more satisfying and prominent in the latter. So do I take the version with the two extra minutes of material, or the version that sounds much more vibrant and exciting to listen to? Or do I edit together some weird mixture of the two (which is actually what I did, but that's an imperfect solution too because a) it's time-consuming and b) then the track constantly moves back and forth between two different mastering styles which is distracting).

Not to mention the huge chunks of silence at the beginning and end (and sometimes middle) of tracks, and the crappy sound quality on "Ride Out/Spirit Horse" and "Aftermath Village Slaughter". It's great to be able to hear these recording sessions but sometimes their flaws are too irritating to ignore...it's quite clear that they weren't prepared for consumption at all, and getting them to the point where you can listen to them is hard work sometimes!


Mike (OTM)2018-05-02 15:45:11
I noticed that with The Dark Knight Rises... a lot of the cues sound like demos almost, even the final versions, where the score in-film is a lot more polished.


Mr Tweedy2018-05-02 18:58:22
That's why I'm mastering my bootlegs before givin them a "real" listen.
Though you can't really master stereo files the same way studios do masterings (with separate layers of instruments), I manage to add some noticeable energy to the bootleg tracks.


mpolonest123 2018-05-02 19:47:24
It’s funny how certain RS are affected by this whole mastering thing while others aren’t. TASM2 and MoS sound almost perfect, while AWE has completely different instrumental layering (although in that case I prefer the more traditional sound as opposed to the bass heavy album).


Joshua2018-05-02 20:37:44
Well considering the film versions have to compete with dialogue and sound effects, it's an absolute must to make them "less punchy" or "quieter". There's only so much sonic space to play with. But with album versions you can go balls to wall. It's not a problem in the recordings. They're doing exactly what there designed to do.


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-02 21:05:58
Yeah I know, it's only a "problem" if you're listening on its own, which these files were never really meant for. I understand the circumstances, it's still just a bit frustrating.

Incidentally, I actually prefer the sessions' mix of "Train Chase" (or "Finale"). It lets the dynamics breathe a bit more whereas the album version was a bit brickwalled and over-loud and exhausting (which works okay for your usual Zimmer/RC-style simplistic power action music but not quite as well for a more dynamically orchestral piece like this; I have the same issue with Thomas Bergersen's "That's a Wrap"). Also the opening trumpet isn't quite as piercing and abrupt (I actually get a huge "jump-scare" sometimes when it comes up on shuffle). So you win some, you lose some. :)

mpolonest, I sort of agree on AWE, although I do wish the sessions had just a *bit* more power. It's not 100% traditionally composed orchestral music, after all, still has that Zimmer heavy touch which goes missing a bit in the sessions. The ideal medium would be somewhere between the sessions and the overly-loud album (which is hopefully what we'll get when that score gets an official complete release one of these years from someone like La-La-Land, which I'm perhaps foolishly optimistic it will, there's so much great unreleased material and it's a very, very popular score, with good reason).


mpolonest123 2018-05-02 21:28:13
@Edmund Well more traditional in the Zimmer sense lol.
With the first Pirates and DMC, you need to have that bass heavy “rock’n’roll” sound, AWE was always a pretty different score tonally.

As for the issues with session mastering, I always edit my copies to remove silences and boost volumes when needed. The only major issue that seems to arise is when lossy files are released. BvS, as one example, sounds atrocious in parts due to the quality of sound.


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-02 21:58:25
Boosting volume helps but it doesn't bring the music up to album levels. There's a much more involved amount of balancing/mixing/mastering that goes into albums that is far beyond my rudimentary Audacity skills...


mpolonest123 2018-05-02 22:04:57
Oh definitely not... I think you would need the stems to have a 100% perfect representation of the album sound. (Though I’m sure some people have strong enough editing skills to come close)

Two asides:

1. In Cavendish Escape (film version) there are some awesome drum placements when he exits the train with his gang that aren’t on the sessions. We’re those done by a music editor?

2. How on earth did the skeleton dance and finale cue from Curse of the Black Pearl pass the bar with those horrible bass distortions? I don’t think I’ve ever heard an official release with something as botched as that....


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-02 23:11:12
There's some pretty gnarly bass distortions in "Terraforming" from Man of Steel as well (at around the 2:30 mark) but I'm not sure those aren't on purpose...


mpolonest123 2018-05-03 02:34:28
Those are pretty noticeable, although they do fit the whole terraforming sound design in a weird way. I want to say there is some awful mixing in the Hero Fight cue from BVS as well. Actually, make that most of Junkie XL’s scores. Run All Night and Mad Max have some genuinely bad portions.

Daniel reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-07 23:13:16
"After the Battle of Aughrim" was inspired to the theme

Felix reply Replies: 2 || 2016-06-25 18:59:38
Do you have any credits here Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2016-06-25 19:10:31
No.


Anonymous2017-03-01 03:11:40
Andrew Kawcynski has a few cues from here on his soundcloud. So there's that.

Daniel reply Replies: 0 || 2015-12-04 21:53:10
It's here!!

Sam reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-12 21:54:40
Is there a way to actually listen to these?

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 4 || 2015-03-10 00:46:26
Mind-- FREAKING-- BLOWN!!!! The Lone Ranger complete score is here!!!!!!


Anonymous2015-03-10 18:09:28
Uhhh, sorry my friend, this "complete score" doesn't and never will exist. It is just more of Hybrids useless never-ending posting of songs we will never hear or be able to buy. Just a senseless waste of time.


Marcos2015-03-10 19:38:34
What are you talking about? I have all these tracks, this is real. Maybe you should look better


Anonymous2015-03-11 02:55:32
Well where exactly did you obtain it? It clearly states "unofficial release" next to "Label"


Anonymous 11382015-03-11 06:19:39
It's also been clearly stated that it's against the rules here to post links to other websites, especially ones where bootlegs are available for download. ### EDITED ###

Dude reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-10 21:31:07
And in this version "Ride Out - Spirit Horse" is also in low quality?

Marcos reply Replies: 7 || 2015-03-10 10:53:01
Another one Zimmer's leak ? What 's going on? , POTC On Strangers Tides was leaked too. now just missing the complete score of the amazing spider-man 2 , does anyone know why all complete scores are been leaked in these days? Maybe @Hybrid can tell us


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 11:34:38
No comment Marcos...


Anonymous2015-03-10 18:06:02
"No comment" translates to Hybrid has no f-ing clue as to why


john2015-03-10 18:08:48
hey hybryd, after leaking pirates mos and lone ranger can you leak spiderman ?
thanks


Anonymous2015-03-10 18:11:50
What is the use in "leaking" these alleged "complete scores" all the time? Will we ever, or have we ever been able to buy these, let alone hear any of these extra songs? The answer is no so why keep doing it?


Marcos2015-03-10 19:35:47
now apparently the recording sessions of Amazing spider.Man 2 has been leaked. but for now is a rumor, i'm going to check now the tracklist.


Medigo2015-03-10 19:37:46
No that one was a prank apparently
dont get your hopes up on that front


Marcos2015-03-10 19:43:35
Yes, you're right , most probale is that be a prank.

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 8 || 2015-03-10 06:00:19
I know it's a silly question, but why does this site replace slashes with hyphens?

E.g. "Logos / Exhibit 1:33" to "Logos - Exhibit (1:33)"


Anonymous2015-03-10 06:15:48
Annoying, is it not?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 11:56:25
Because it's my H-Z.com standard... I personally hate the "/" !

Sue me it bothers you ! lol


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 12:08:21
Sometimes I forget everybody here is human. Shame, I always imagined Hybrid to be like Ian McKellen in Gandalf costume.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-10 13:51:35
I personally prefer slashes to hyphens but as long as one or the other is used consistently, everything's cool. :)


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 16:48:20
Well, hyphens are used to join two words. Slash is used to separate two parts of the same element. So yeah, slash is more accurate.


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 17:45:05
Who cares, you have a problem ? You're free to leave !


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 18:03:41
@Hybrid, don't be dick. I never said I have a problem. I don't have anything against hyphens. I just mentioned in Indian English slash is MORE accurate here, doesn't mean hyphen is wrong.


Anonymous2015-03-10 18:03:54
Hybrid, don't be such an a-hole okay?

JackieStewart reply Replies: 1 || 2015-03-10 11:07:53
What I really want is the RUSH complete score. The cd release of this was good enough.


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 12:00:30
There won't be more than 10 minutes extra material in Rush CS. Most of the music is already in the OST.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-10 09:56:33
Now THIS I'm excited to hear.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 1 || 2015-03-10 02:59:03
Just a curious question... Are the Absurdity and Silver suites are parts of the original film score?


Tonto2015-03-10 03:07:23
They are suites which themes get used in film

Cooper reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-10 02:24:15
I listen now, but i cant find, where is Music Box track ?


Tonto2015-03-10 02:28:56
That is a source cue. Not included


Cooper2015-03-10 02:51:20
I thinking, Hans composed this track (Music Box) :( disappointment. :(

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-10 00:43:12
Before anyone shows up...


Adam2015-03-10 01:39:17
Oh my God! First Man of Steel and now The Lone Ranger! This is awesome!

Are any credits known at this time? :P


Russel2015-03-10 02:17:07
Yeah, Hans Zimmer. Lol

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-10 01:24:14
This day is awesome!!!

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