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Budapest, please :(Same question here, is concert in Poland even concidered to occur?if the link doesn't work for some reason, the song is called Cliffhanger Sky High on youtubeHi All, sorry it took so long to upload, My friend helped me set up a youtube channel to upload tracks to. I am very inspired by the classic Zimmer Scores of the 90's. I envisioned A climactic rescue aboard A speeding train for this particular cue.<br>https://youtu.be/4WyMIcpqMRk <br>I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.<br>===============<br><br>No one dragged anything. <br><br>I briefly mentioned that franchise, among many other things you conveniently ignored (you do that a lot), to prove a simple point: that a director doesn't get to make 5 movies from the same franchise if people aren't enjoying his work. Simple as that. I never talked about the "quality" of each of those movies. Go see the comment again.<br><br>YOU picked up on this and started talking obsessively about the TF. <br><br><br>==============<br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes. <br>==============<br><br>Look at your first comment here, pal. Look at it good! Snarky, dismissive, almost trollish, and with a clear intention to provoke people. Let me quote it: "Another day, another Bay film that doesn't know what fun is." <br><br>I only "go after" people who can't share their opinions in a respectful, mature way. There are a lot of comments here I disagreed with. But I never confronted those people. Why? Because they know how to properly share an opinion. <br><br>I only go after people who provoke, make fun of someone/something and troll. I've never "attacked" a person who didn't deserve that kind of response. My post history here speaks for itself. <br><br><br>===================<br>And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br>===================<br><br>Nope. Not even close. <br><br>You're just bitter that I'm using quotes from proven, talented people like Spielberg who support Bay. What quotes can your side use? Just quotes from knucklehead film bloggers and critics who hate half of what Hollywood makes. <br><br>No one with an actual integrity and knowledge of the film business can dismiss what Bay has accomplished. You may not like his stuff, but to completely dismiss him as a filmmaker is.......moronic. Truth is, it's only small fries on the internet who are angry that their favorite mid-level directors aren't as big and successful as Bay.<br><br>That's really the bottom line. <br><br>Speaking of that, who is YOUR favorite filmmaker? Go ahead, share it with us. Let's see who is that PERFECT filmmaker you drool over.<br><br>I'm really curious.<br><br>==============<br>By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films. But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br>==============<br><br>Huh??<br><br>When did I said that box office success or box office failure means that a movie is good or bad?? I never that. So if you don't mind, stop putting words in my mouth.<br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>==================<br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't<br>==================<br><br><br>Kinda ironic coming from the person who ignored the majority of the stuff I said here. Careful cherry-picking, convenient ignoring of stuff, and putting words in my mouth is apparently what you like to do. <br><br><br>================<br>What do you mean "next time?" Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.<br>================<br><br>Uhhhh, that's because it IS a joke. Because it is not true and because it was posted with the clear intention to provoke. You are the Negative Nancy here, my friend. Not me. Jesus Christ, even your nickname tells people exactly what they can expect from you......"Cynical Makooti". <br><br><br>====================<br>I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument<br>====================<br><br>Oh, that's true....................you're certainly not winning this argument. I mean, that's obvious. <br><br>And..... I never posted a lie. Just because "your sources" claim something different doesn't mean it's the truth. Pacific Rim wasn't a success - considering the huge expactations and the fact that the movie's budget is $200 freakin' million - and they DID try to start a franchise with 300. They failed. <br><br><br>================<br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br>================<br><br>That's rich. Coming from the guy who calls himself "Cynical Makooti". The guy who now plays the victim, even though he was the one who started this with a childish, trollish comment. <br><br>Look at my first reply to you. I was jokingly mimicking your style. Intentionally. Then you tried to be a smartass with your next reply. But EVEN THEN, I responded in a normal way with my second post. After that........you unleashed your true self. <br><br>And now, you're acting like the victim: "Poor me, being attacked by a crazy Bay fan!" <br><br>So please, don't talk about self-awareness. It ain't working.<br><br><br><br>================<br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br>================<br><br>Haha, maybe you should read more Forbes. Take a look at what they said about the entire (already failed) Pac Rim universe. Read a bit more on how much money the studio lost from the first flick and why they actually went with a sequel. It ain't because the first one was a beloved hit. <br><br><br>=======<br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves. That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br>=======<br><br>Okay, I believe you. Now, would you please share the link to that statement from Paramount. <br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>=============<br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br>=============<br><br>Hey, it's certainly a better and more reasonable place than your world. A world where you completely dismiss and ignore the accomplishments of one of the biggest filmmakers out there.<br><br>What's your next claim? <br><br>That Donnie Trump is the best President in history?<br><br><br>Have a nice day!
Do any of you think that Junkie's Justice League score will ever get released or leaked? I was really excited to hear how Junkie planned on developing the themes used in the prior DCEU movies. Especially the Batman themes from BVS. It's a damn shame how WB handled that film."Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1."<br><br>Newsflash: I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.  Only then did I treat them as fair game.  Considering they make up a third of his filmography, I don't see why I SHOULDN'T address them.  How convenient is it that bringing them up is only ever valid when YOU do it?<br><br>More to the point, I already said I thought his decline kicked in from Pearl Harbor onwards.  The TF films are just his rock bottom.<br><br>"So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic."<br><br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes.  And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br><br>Pain & Gain and 13 Hours, his supposedly best films, also have his lowest box office turnouts.  13 Hours was a flat-out bomb.  By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films.  But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br><br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't.<br><br>"Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything."<br><br>What do you mean "next time?"  Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.  You already have this method down.  You're just too dishonest to admit it.<br><br>Notice how I avoided accusing you of anything until AFTER you started outright lying about movies and flaunting it as objective fact.<br><br>You insulted ME first, pal.  I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument.  Not for your opinions, not for your celebrity crush, for being a disingenuous twat. <br><br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br><br>"Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality."<br><br>Then it's a good thing I never quoted a single one of those, let alone as objective proof, isn't it?<br><br>Man, appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, mistaking correlation for causation, slothful induction, strawmanning, I could make a bingo game outta this.<br><br>"So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?"<br><br>Not "according to me."  According to the studios that make the actual films.  And Forbes.  Remember Forbes?  You considered their word inarguable fact a couple posts ago.<br><br>https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/09/02/pacif ic-rim-and-more-domestic-flops-that-became-global-hits/#3f3e 914d7c18<br><br>Well whaddaya know?<br><br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br><br>That thing you said TF5 was but actually wasn't.<br><br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves.  That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br><br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br><br>Wow!  Just wow!ThxSeville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.Can we stop? I agree with the other guy more in his points, but it's clear that this is gonna keep going nowhere if you're gonna be so overly defensive about something that you claim is merely subjective.
But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br>======================<br><br><br>Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1. <br><br>So no, "challenging the viewer" is not about Transformers. You chose to focus on these movies. Not me. I was actually reffering to Bay movies like The Island and especially Pain and Gain. <br><br>But I guess you like to talk only about Transformers.....Good for you. But that's not how a discussion works. <br><br><br>===================<br>Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br>===================<br><br><br>So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic? <br><br>Wow! Just wow!<br><br>Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything. For you, that is apparently the normal behavior.<br><br><br>======<br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.<br>=======<br><br>Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality. Also, a "bad" movie to you is the greatest movie for the guy walking next to you on the street. As Kevin Smith said: "Every movie is someone's favorite movie". <br><br>Let's try to keep that in mind.<br><br><br>============<br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br>============<br><br>Really?<br><br>Then what do you have to say about Pacific Rim 1. I present to you.......the pure numbers:<br><br>Budget: $200 million. And that doesn't include the marketing cost.<br>Worldwide gross: $411,002,906<br><br>So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?<br><br>Wow! Just.....wow!Yeah lol back then only Harold was confirmed.Can you tell me a names of cues, that was been on Klaus website?Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?
well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man.  Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want.  If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny.  When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.  That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here.  Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact.  I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here.  It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money.  Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.  But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career.  I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money.  Period.  Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie.  <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.nope
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  1. Krypton (2:58)
  2. Zod Disbands Council (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  3. The Codex (3:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  4. Goodbyes - Launch Preparation (2:02)
  5. Surender The Codex (1:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  6. The Launch (2:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  7. Zod Is Captured (3:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  8. Krypton Destroyed - Kal To Earth (1:58)
  9. Oil Rig Rescue (1:55)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  10. Young Clark Freaks (2:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  11. Bus Rescue (Part 1) (0:42)
  12. Bus Rescue (Part 2) (1:01)
  13. I Just Wanted To Help (3:47)
  14. On The Road Again - Meet Lois (1:32)
  15. The Anomaly (0:47)
  16. The Scout Ship (5:16)
  17. The Scout Ship Takes Off (1:31)
  18. Who Are You? (3:47)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  19. First Flight (4:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  20. Lois Investigates (1:28)
  21. The Tornado (2:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  22. Homecoming (2:33)
  23. UFO - You Are Not Alone (4:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  24. Lois Arrested (0:43)
  25. Who Is This Kal Person? (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  26. What's On Your Mind? (2:31)
  27. Alien Ship Arrives (1:35)
  28. Surrender To Faora (0:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  29. Lois & Superman Brought Before Zod (1:30)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  30. Zod's Story (Part 1) (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  31. Zod's Story (Part 2) (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  32. Alien Ships Head To Kansas (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  33. Escape From Ship (4:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Atli Örvarsson, Andrew Kawczynski
  34. Superman Rescues Mother - Smallville Duel (10:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  35. This Man Is Not Out Enemy (1:57)
  36. Release The World Engine (3:03)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  37. Terraforming (0:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  38. We Have A Plan - World Engine Destroyed (9:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Steve Mazzaro
  39. We Did It (0:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  40. Destoy This Ship - Faora Attacks (4:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Atli Örvarsson, Steve Mazzaro
  41. Kiss (1:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  42. Final Confrontation (4:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Christian Vorländer
  43. Battle Continues (4:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Andrew Kawczynski
  44. Clark Kent, Reporter (5:26)
  45. New Superman Suite (31:53)
    Hans Zimmer
  46. General Zod Suite (7:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  47. Action Drums Suite (3:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
  48. Arcade Suite (7:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg
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GermanRCPFan reply Replies: 8 || 2019-08-13 17:54:48
I think that Lorne Balfe write some material for that film because some of cues are similar to him and this film is one of the biggest blockbusters of that year and this is hardly to imagine if Hans Zimmer would write it without his best arranger Lorne Balfe. It's only my opinion


Mike2019-08-13 22:02:51
Lorne didn't work on MoS.


Anonymous2019-08-13 22:15:09
what mike said


Soldierofrome2019-08-14 00:30:27
i ask him 6 years ago, he didnt work.


Mr.Unbreakable2019-08-14 00:56:42
I still don't understand how Hans didn't call Lorne for Mos and BvS.


Anonymous2019-08-14 01:21:43
it’s simple: he never picked up the phone and dialed


HunterTech2019-08-14 04:54:46
Or better yet: Hans simply thought Balfe established himself well enough at that point, and decided instead to bring on people that needed more experience at that time.


Mr.Unbreakable2019-08-14 05:44:50
Although I like the soundtrack, I think Jackman, Djawadi or Balfe would have worked better than Mazzaro or Kawczynski


GermanRCPFan2019-08-14 08:37:44
So, I was wrong.
Mr.Unbreakable, I agree with you. If Hans hired that people soundtrack would be better. It's good anyway, but would be better.

P.S. The main action motif (half of score)) inspired by King Arthur's Main Theme - "Woad To Ruin"

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-16 14:05:16
Added a couple of Mazzaro credits taken from his new website...


Anonymous2017-04-16 21:57:10
Nice! I see you've added them on the OST page too. The mystery is slowly becoming clearer.

kevin reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-22 13:40:02
Can anyone tell me where i can purchase or get the complete score of man of steel like the one above


Anonymous2016-12-22 17:28:27
Hey, kevin. Nowhere you can purchase this complete score, as it's an unreleased bootleg, Google for it.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2016-11-12 22:09:09
Has anyone else noticed that the last 2 minutes of the Zod suite sound very similar to the last 2 minutes of "We Are Now the Gods" from The Last Airbender?


Edmund Meinerts2016-11-13 15:17:20
Can't really say I agree.


mpolonest123 2016-11-13 17:34:48
Perhaps it's just me, the chords and tempo sounded close enough although the structure is different.


CWMChapman2016-11-15 00:43:27
Yeah I can hear a slight similarity, very interesting.

Cap reply Replies: 4 || 2016-10-17 13:38:32
Actually thought all the BvS cues were unreleased but appears Wreckage and The Desert are the only ones.


Bro2016-10-19 22:11:48
He's also pitched the audio down by approx 10% using a program like audacity, which cannot be reversed without severe defects/distortion/artifacts in the audio. Which kills it for me.


Ahmad2016-10-19 23:36:24
To me the only unreleased cue is "Wreckage"! The rest were actually released. "The Desert" is just edited "Blood Of My Blood", "Post Apocalypse" is "Must There Be A Superman?", "Thug Fight" is "Fight Night", "Underground Torture" is an edited part of "New Rules". In case anyone didn't know that already.

Some of the cues I wish were released are:
Bruce checking the drive (Meta humans)
Bruce training
Variations of "Day Of The Dead" (when superman arrives at the capitol building, when he fights doomsday, the cue right after "Black and Blue" when he flight to go fight Lex, Supes statue vandalism)
Variations of Lex's theme (Lex Corp Helipad scene - choir parts)



mpolonest123 2016-10-20 00:51:28
Actually the first 30 or so seconds of Post Apocalypse are unreleased, although it's nothing substantial.


Everan2016-10-20 15:47:48
I think some tiny bits of Desert and Post Apocalypse are used in the extended cut, just to add those few seconds of cut content. Wreckage is definetely new, and the start of Post Apocalypse sounds a bit different in the film due to the World Engine sound effect.

Leo reply Replies: 5 || 2016-10-19 07:22:27
I recall Zimmer claiming he composed the final battle sequence between Superman and General Zod, yet here we are, with a co credit with Andrew Andrew Kawczynski and Junkie XL. Pretty interesting, but a tad issapointed. :P


Leo2016-10-19 07:24:21
*Andrew Kawczynsk
*Dissapointed.


Leo2016-10-19 07:24:48
*Kawczynski


Edmund Meinerts2016-10-19 09:52:32
*Disappointed

;)


Leo2016-10-19 11:53:29
Indeed. xD


Mike2016-10-19 15:18:17
*sigh* I don't mean to sound like a bitter curmudgeon, but here goes, for everybody... :)

Hans *did* compose the final battle sequence! The entire "If You Love These People" / "Battle Continues" cue is written 90% of the way in the MoS Sketchbook suite. Even the final product may be 98% Zimmer. We don't know what Andrew Kawcynski contributed, but it may or may not have been substantial. A

nd even if he made all the changes from the suite version to the cue version, we need to remember a point that has been made several times here: Hans co-writes most of the cues! So even if someone else contributed, *he* still wrote it, too. It's not like he just sits back while everyone else goes to work on things.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 11 || 2016-10-15 14:24:45
I added a bunch of Andrew K credits here...


Mike2016-10-15 17:26:16
So on OST this translates to "DNA," "Are You Listening, Clark?" and "If You Love These People." Nice! Does he have more or is this it for him?


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-15 18:03:57
I don't know but he now has a website and a soundcloud where he put a lot of stuff. Check it out !


Mike2016-10-15 18:39:15
What is "Desperation" from TASM2? Is that an unreleased cue or a suite? I love it!


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-15 19:00:04
A lot of music is rejected, unused or left behind on every film... But it's totally great yeah, as well as his variation on the Terminator Theme !!


The Trope2016-10-17 10:00:01
Hybrid, would you be able to post a link to Andrew Kawczynski's site? I just can't seem to find it.


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-17 10:09:52
Is everyone so clumsy on the internet ? Apparently so !

Just click on Andrew's profile here, there's a link to his site !

And I wonder what will happen when you will try to find the soundcloud link on that very site ! :O


Mike2016-10-17 15:12:31
Every composer on this site, click on them and find the "www." link. There ya go. :P


Gilvane Cezar2016-10-17 17:27:16
https://soundcloud.com/andrewkawczynski
:)


The Trope2016-10-19 02:31:43
Thank you so much.


Sanders 2016-10-19 06:16:20
Hybrid - will there be a score release for War On Everyone ? I heard a cue on Twitter and love it ???????


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-19 10:16:07
No there won't be... :/

Cap reply Replies: 3 || 2016-10-17 01:15:26
How is no one talking about the unreleased cues on Kawczynski's site?? BvS, Chappie, Spiderman 2!


Russel2016-10-17 02:51:20
Look below your post...lol


Bro2016-10-17 06:35:48
What's his website, it doesn't seem to appear on google at all.


Bro2016-10-17 06:57:01
found it, nevermind.

groy42 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-07-23 02:49:05
Can someone point me in the right direction so if I were to happen to listen to these tracks where could I find something like this?

desch reply Replies: 8 || 2015-03-09 10:28:32
Great, however "First Flight (Film Mix)" doesn't correspond the actual film version.

In the final part, the violin stem is missing. Instead of this we get the electric guitar. Is this another case of the "No-time-for-caution-problem"?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-09 10:41:49
Yep, and all is here, the mix is just buried a little... Get over that kind of things, people... lol


Mortifer V.2015-03-09 11:59:17
It's not even close to being a NTFC problem.


Medigo2015-03-09 13:02:55
The violin stem is clearly there in the track
its just not easy to hear


Mike2015-03-09 14:23:10
Yeah, at this point, we just need to get over it. It's a much closer mix to the film version than the Flight track on CD, and it's much MUCH closer to its film counterpart than No Time for Caution was. The strings are definitely there, louder than on album. Be happy!


desch2015-03-09 15:14:29
Hybrid, thank you very much for clarification.

It's interesting though how this discussion leads to aggressive reactions. There's no need to be rude.

My comment was rather meant as indication, not to moan about differences between the versions.

I've listened to the film mix again and indeed the violin stem is there. I was just a bit confused because this stem is much louder in the actual film mix.

The term "No-time-for-caution-problematic" is to be unerstood in a general manner. I chose the Interstellar example to give this problem a name because it's the most known and most drastic example of differences between film and CD version.

Again, I have to apologize if my comment led to any inconveniences but there's no need to get aggressive and rude.

Now, let's get back to listen to some good MOS music ...


Anonymous2015-03-09 17:05:51
Inceptions 'dont think about elephants' is a much better NTFC case anyway, heh


Philip2015-03-09 18:08:08
Where in this First Flight "Film Mix" does this violin stem appear?


Anonymous2016-03-05 16:13:01
Old discussion and maybe this is too off-topic but one film-version cue that's even more troubling than NTFC for me is the Batman Chased cue... :P At least the core of NTFC is the same as the film version, they changed changed the organ emphasis. Same with the Flight alternate.

Scorefan reply Replies: 5 || 2015-03-10 23:13:27
Hybrid, one question will be available in the future the original 35 minutes hans sketchbook?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 23:26:10
No idea, don't think so.


Mike2015-05-08 16:03:58
Hans said in one interview that it got "really boring" after a while. or something to that effect, which is why he cut it back. But the stuff not there is undoubtedly in one or more of the other tracks. That tends to be how "shortened suites" work.


mpolonest1232016-01-24 17:50:19
Wrong post, sorry


@Hybrid, any idea what the cut music was? If Hans thought it was "boring" maybe it just was ambient filler stuff....


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-24 17:51:03
Hasn't changed, I still have no idea... lol


mpolonest1232016-01-24 18:39:17
Hahaha gotcha!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 1 || 2015-07-26 20:10:45
I couldn't stop loving and listening to the Man of Steel complete score!


mpolonest1232016-01-24 17:48:14
@Hybrid, any idea what the cut music was? If Hans thought it was "boring" maybe it just was ambient filler stuff....

Joshua reply Replies: 3 || 2015-08-20 18:17:51
@Hybrid, On twitter Eric Whitacre confirmed he was working on Hans Zimmer score for the next four months. That wouldn't happen to be for a certain super hero film would it?


Hybrid Soldier2015-08-20 18:29:13
Inferno.....


Joshua 2015-08-20 19:18:09
Cool, thank you sir.


Leo2015-08-21 03:37:54
HELL YES!

Duderino reply Replies: 2 || 2015-08-03 05:04:59
Hey there Hybrid.

How does one listen to this whole score?


Evenstar2015-08-04 00:16:03
With ears probably


Mr Tweedy2015-08-05 00:07:01
@Evenstar
Love your comment !

Mike reply Replies: 6 || 2015-04-04 17:37:18
So Atli worked on Launch Preparation (Goodbye My Son), eh? Funny, I guessed that all along. lol.


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 17:51:50
I didn't put it here for him.


Anonymous2015-04-04 17:54:06
haha fail comment


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 17:58:52
I put it for his sis' ! :P


Mike2015-04-04 18:04:33
Right... :P

Did she write her vocal part, then?


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 19:00:02
Nope it's to show her vocals on projects, that's all... :)


She's really nice, Hilda ! :)


Mike2015-04-04 20:03:51
You should do similar uploads for Lisa Gerrard, and maybe Dom Lewis for things like TASM2... :)

Dudu reply Replies: 3 || 2015-03-15 21:17:58
Hi Hybrid,
Since no one asked...why were you thanked in the booklet??And did you know your name would appear before the release? ;-)


Mike2015-03-15 21:47:51
You're right. I totally missed that one.


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-15 23:18:11
I wrote Zod's theme... I admit...


lol


No it was just for H-Z.com... ;)


Mike2015-03-15 23:19:20
Well, Hybrid, in that case, I hate to say it, but the Zod theme is my least favorite part of this score... :P

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 3 || 2015-03-12 14:34:18
Final Confrontation and Battle Continues are the mother of all third acts in film soundtracks.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-12 15:04:05
"I Don't Think Now's the Best Time" and the motherfucking Mount Doom sequence beg to freaking differ.


RealFfingMusic2015-03-12 18:12:32
King of Pride Rock, Chevalier de Sangreal, WOrld's Fattest Fertiliser Salesman, God Save Us, Dumbledore's Farewell, It's Our Fight, Finale (Train Fight), Where We're Going, blah-la-blah-blah . . . each after his/her own taste. Hooray . . . zzzz.


Zimson2015-03-12 18:37:01
My music is better than yours!!!!111
However, I agree that those are the best parts of the score (together with Launch). Ffing Rocks!

ei18 reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-10 21:41:09
What do the numbers mean in the track names for complete scores? For instance, "3m15b First Flight"? thanks!


Anonymous2015-03-10 21:48:01
Like the film themselves when they are delivered to theatres, the music comes on reels. the first number represents the reel the music is on. The m represents "music", or "cue". The next number represents what cue # it is. And "b" means it's the second parts of the cue. There was most likely an "a".

so 3m15b = reel 3, cue 15b


ei182015-03-10 21:50:56
Gotcha, thanks!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 8 || 2015-03-08 15:25:43
Thanks Soldier. The complete film score of Man of Steel is ultimately the BEST I've ever listened to! Kudos to Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, and Steve Mazzaro!


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 18:05:07
Best ever...best....evvverr.............kkkkkrkrkr


Mike2015-03-08 18:15:52
lol...It's a good score IMO, but the fanboyism makes me laugh. :P


T-Mann0362015-03-08 20:35:00
After listening over 3 hours of the Man of Steel complete score, it's extremely difficult for me to find which track was the best. All of them are the best, IMHO, because it truly match the action and emotion directly from the film.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-09 09:23:37
Yes, how revolutionary of Zimmer to write a score that matches the action and emotion of the film!


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-09 09:54:30
I apologize for being such an asshole.


T-Mann0362015-03-09 15:25:11
Apologies accepted.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-10 09:58:28
I don't apologize for jack shit, because that wasn't me.


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 12:01:13
Ah! the old namesake controversy.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2015-03-08 14:06:08
I think Atli did Bus Rescue (Part 1), The Scout Ship, Faora Attacks... But I'll never know I guess... lol


T-Mann0362015-03-09 20:16:51
If your assumption is true, Soldier, you could be right. After listening to Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters and The Code (Complete Score), I have to say that Atli have done Hans' homework and given an A+.

Mike reply Replies: 20 || 2015-03-08 15:52:27
"Clark Kent suite" - is that "This is Clark Kent" off the album?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-08 15:55:31
Yeah, we'll it's a just a part of the Sketchbook with alt percs at the end, probably to make it available on the 1 CD version of the OST, for those not getting the Sketchbook...


Mike2015-03-08 16:03:42
Also nice to have Escape From Ship, SFX-free. I find it interesting that not many people talk about the Earth Suite. It's quite nice, IMO.


Adam2015-03-08 17:04:31
Oh my God this was leaked!?!? Can't believe it!


Anonymous2015-03-08 18:23:13
Earth Suite is just Earth off the OST. Nothing new


Ds2015-03-08 18:46:17
Mike why are you laughing? Zimmer fanboyism is the most beautiful form of fanboyism and day after day I feel proud of being a fanboy of Hans :-D


Adam2015-03-08 18:51:21
Me too, Ds!! :D


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 19:18:48
Fanboyism is not something to be proud of. You can be a fan of somebody without blindly praising every score they put out and saying it's the greatest thing ever written (until, of course, the next one comes out). There's plenty of stuff by John Powell that I'll be the first to admit isn't that great (Fair Game...zzzzz) - doesn't stop me being a fan of his! Same with Hans. I'm really not trying to take the fun out of music or anything, but the tiniest amount of critical listening really does go a long way, IMO.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 19:20:57
Also, Ds, I should say that I don't think YOU are a "fanboy" in the negative sense of the term. You're certainly enthusiastic about Hans but you also have actual things to say about the music beyond "OMG SO AWESOME BEST EVR" - that's really all I ask. :)


Marcos2015-03-08 20:00:49
is not Fanboyism, is just the fact that at last we got something we have been waiting for long long time. Besides is the same music of the album but expanded, there is not too much new to say about the score.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 20:08:23
A person saying that this is the BEST score they had ever heard (based on one listen to the complete score) isn't fanboyism? I get that people are excited to have this...but come on.


Mike2015-03-08 20:12:12
Ds, what Edmund said. :) Trust me when I tell you I'm a huge fan of Zimmer. Most of my scores—heck, most of my music, maybe!—come from him, but as Edmund pointed out, it's good to appreciate someone's music AND be able to listen somewhat critically, beyond just "OMG GREATEST SCORE EVER".

I admit, "fanboy" tendencies come out in me from time to time (like when this score first came out...I thought it was the greatest thing). But largely due to commenters like Edmund, and much as I almost always disagree with it, sites like Filmtracks, I now approach scores with both an enthusiastic and a critical ear. I still like MoS a lot and listen to it often, for example, but I now also notice some of its faults more clearly than I did at first. :)


Marcos2015-03-08 20:19:19
well . . for me is really the best!, after the dark knight trilogy of course. :P . All Zimmer's works with Nolan (as producer in this case) curiosly are his best works, and i say this musically speaking


Adam2015-03-08 20:35:15
It is healthy to be able to criticize HZ because there's too many people who drool over all his works and say he's the best!! Does it count if I say Pirates 4 is horrible? :P


Mike2015-03-08 20:37:49
Eh, idk...doesn't EVERYONE agree about POTC4 being horrible? ;)


Marcos2015-03-08 20:44:20
I swear , i listened All Zimmer's works (released of course) , but i never listened even one album of Pirates of Caribbean, i don't know why . . is rare because i know that it's one of his most important works, but some of this does not appeal to me


Adam2015-03-08 21:10:00
That's why I asked if it counts about Pirates 4! :D

I may have to think of some other Zimmer scores that aren't great. Hmm this can take a while!


Ds2015-03-08 22:02:29
Well Edmund I think you are right. Even if in this case I ´m almost incapable of criticizing any Zimmer score. Even if some of his output surprised me in a bad way, I learned one lesson: Zimmer is a visionary and I have always ended up liking his music. Always. Maybe a few days or weeks or even months later. In other words I choose to trust his talent over my (limited) musical taste. The same applies to Thomas Bergersen as well, but that´s it.

But yeah I am also a bit tired of people screaming that every new score is his best ever. Everyone knows his best are King Arthur and At World´s End :-p


Medigo2015-03-08 22:16:37
Hans can hardly be blamed for how POC4 ended up


Mike2015-03-08 22:17:57
True. And Hans himself apologized that anyone had to listen to it (it does have good themes, where new music is concerned, too, so it's not all terrible).


Adam2015-03-08 22:27:32
I think of PotC4 as like a "best of" from the trilogy lol!

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 15:10:03
If there was one complete score I was eagerly waiting for, it was definitely this one. So freaking amazing action music, Escape From Ship, Smallville Duel (10 minutes of violence!!), Final Confrontation... I'm delighted. What a week, thanks HZ!

Scott reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 14:02:19
This is so much better than the album.

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-08 13:13:58
Does anybody (@Hybrid) know if there's any difference between "Terraforming" in OST and "38. We Have a Plan - World Engine"?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-08 13:17:03
From what I remember the mix is slightly different. And well on OST the mastering is fucked up... lol


Anonymous2015-03-08 13:25:22
As usual we just had to wait for the "foot warmer" in order to get the presentation the score deserves - both in terms of content and, surprising, mastering. /rant.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 12:27:45
I guess this is as good a time as any to give this score a second chance. :)

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 12:03:42
YES!!! We waited for this 2 Years and now I can't stop listening :D

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