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So first impressions:<br><br>JP knocked this one out of the park! The whole score has this excellent swashbuckling vibe, which is surprisingly aggressive during the action sequences (entirely due to his trademark percussion).<br><br>The writing style is really interesting, it’s basically John Powell doing his usual style but with some Williams flourishes, especially during the softer cues. The Star Wars themes do return, but not as heavily as Rogue One. And of course the JW cue is great, although surprisingly structured more as an action cue as opposed to a concert suite.<br><br>And for some reason the Han theme sounds vaguely similar to Poe’s theme from Force Awakens.Let’s just say “Reminiscience Therapy”.... hold onto your seats! ;-)This score is awesome!! Powell did a great job at making a score that's differet than all the other SW scores, but still you know it's a SW score. He reprised Williams' theme brilliantly and I can't stop to listen to it!!!what about the music when batman makes it back to the cave and lex opens the case of kryptonite. cant find it in theseYeah I can't agree that Inception or Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring. Certainly not in structure, thematic development, etc. <br><br>What defined those scores is the vision behind them more so than the execution. In so many ways, that is opposite of The World's End. Interstellar is a brilliant score that managed to provide each scene with a simplistic tone, but one that captured the atmosphere behind the scenes perfectly, such as the unique use of the organ. Same with Inception with the guitars. <br><br>With a World's End, the vision is nothing special. It is a rock and roll twist to classic music. But the execution brings enormous power and gravitas to the movie.<br><br>I would sum it up by saying that in Interstellar and Inception, the creation of the music drives the movie's ideas while in At World's End, the movie drives the creation of the music.
Nazg&#251;l for Azog I will never forgive. It's not a Servant of Sauron theme, it's a Ringwraith theme, and Azog's not a Ringwraith, he's a goddam Orc, and that theme doesn't belong there, full stop. It was just put there because it sounds "epic" and would "pump up the action scene". Gondor Restored at the end is just as stupid. And the Dreaming of Bag End theme for Bilbo is indeed lovely, and would have been lovelier still if it actually appeared in the movie. Instead it just gets replaced by copy/pasted Hobbit music from LOTR instead because Peter Jackson desperately wants his audience to remember how good those movies were in lieu of the Hobbit ones being any good on their own. Needless to say it goes missing entirely from the second and third score...along with the Misty Mountains melody (the strongest theme of the first one). I still really like those scores overall but they got absolutely butchered in terms of their thematic usage in the films. Then again those movies were an absolute clusterfuck so I shouldn't be surprised.<br><br>WRT Harry Potter, the 3 note theme does work okay for Voldemort, except that there's already a longer, separate Voldemort theme in Philosopher's, one that I like even more, and which only gets used once in Chamber (when Riddle rearranges the letters). I can understand liking Chamber better than Philosopher when you compare the albums, but in terms of the complete scores there's no contest at all, Philosopher wins by a country mile because of Chamber's rehash issues (and there are some good cues missing from the album, such as the Troll and Forbidden Forest scenes).@Edmund<br>The thing with the Nolan scores (at least Interstellar/Inception) is that they are repetitive, in as much as being built heavily around the suites that I’m guessing they use to edit and temp the film. <br>And while the themes are simple I do think they are structured in a unique enough way which builds emotional resonance through the gradual increase in chords/volume/speed/etc. Even Dunkirk is a relatively simple score theme wise, but is so technically complex.<br><br>And personally I’ve never been in love with Inception. I admire it on a technical level, but outside of “Time” I find it to be a fairly cold score. Obviously what it was meant to do so not a complaint, more of a personal preference thing.You know, I actually like Chamber of Secrets much more than Philosopher's Stone. It has the best moments from that score with improved themes. (I actually like the 3 note motif for Voldemort better than it being used for the stone, it already sounded like the Sith theme from Star Wars so might as well go all the way with it.) It felt more tight, better paced, and had an overall more energetic feel to it.<br><br>The Hobbit, I'm not entirely sure where you're getting heartbreaking from. If you mean the state of its release I absolutely agree, if you're talking about its reprisals the only one I had any issue with was the Return of the King/Gondor Restored theme which had nothing to do with Thorin and Bilbo's relationship. <br><br>The Nazghul theme being used for Azog I thought was fine as he was a servant of Sauron in the movies, History of the Ring and Gollum's themes were used effectively, and the new thematic material for the first film, I thought was wonderful. The themes A Baggins of Bag-End and The Lonely Mountain song being used as a Fellowship type of theme are the greatest highlights for me.See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/
I'm trying to be objective* (sorry haha)@Anonymous Zimmer's best? Well... I'm trying to be subjective:<br>IMO The Thin Red Line remains the pinnacle of Hans' career from an artistic point of view. It's a turning point, though we've been used to this kind of writing since (so many scores have copied TTRL).<br><br>Inception and (especially) Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring as well. Their level of complexity is unmatched in Zimmer's discography.<br>Gladiator is another impressive score, as it combines some of the best action music, best drama and deepest emotions Hans has ever composed for a movie.<br><br>Seems like I'm quite objective here, as none of my favorites scores are on this list ! ;)Interesting you mention William Ross' role in Chamber of Secrets because I've never fully understood what his exact involvement was. Was he just an additional music composer? Or did he actually compose most of the score with John Williams only writing the suites? Just curious if you know.I mean, the thematic situation *is* a bit messy. You've got new themes by Powell, one new Williams theme adapted by Powell, and then existing Star Wars themes adapted by Powell. I agree the credits are a bit long-winded but I can't think of a more concise way to convey all that information.<br><br>What does bother me (and maybe this is my inner fanboy talking) is that it seems to downplay Powell's role a bit, listing him second and with the use of the word "adapted" which makes him feel a bit second fiddle. Remember how William Ross "adapted" Williams' music for Chamber of Secrets, by which was meant largely copying and pasting bits from Sorcerer's Stone? I have no doubt that Powell has done a far, far more substantial job here (and they do say "composed and adapted", to be fair). Then again, it's a Star Wars score, and of course they're going to put Williams' name front and center as much as possible no matter what.<br><br>This is all such nitpicking of the highest order :pHans for Star Wars ?<br><br><br>Never.<br><br><br>Ron probably asked him first and Hans probably was like "JOHN POWELL !!"
What would have happened if Ron Howard would have been the first choice to direct Solo? He would have chosen James Horner (if he wasn't dead) or try to convince Hans Zimmer to do the music. The only collaboration between Howard and maestro Williams was in the movie Far And Away.Poster in SpainA Star Wars score that sounds like a Powell score? I'm in.<br><br>From what I've heard of many people, the score is really great and apart from the Williams theme, I heard Powell also had a lot of great themes.<br><br>I cannot wait for it!Your source?Just saw the film, really fun and faced paced movie. The score is great, it has a solid main theme by John Williams (not as great as Rey theme though) but still memorable and john powell adapts this main theme in various variations throughout the film. Star Wars fan might be dissapointed by the score because this overall sounds like a typical Powell score which doesn’t really sound like a typical Star Wars movie. Still fans of Powell will love this new score.
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Hans ZimmerTom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)Atli ÖrvarssonAndrew Kawczynski
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Man Of Steel (Complete Score)
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  1. Krypton (2:58)
  2. Zod Disbands Council (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  3. The Codex (3:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  4. Goodbyes - Launch Preparation (2:02)
  5. Surender The Codex (1:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  6. The Launch (2:36)
  7. Zod Is Captured (3:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  8. Krypton Destroyed - Kal To Earth (1:58)
  9. Oil Rig Rescue (1:55)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  10. Young Clark Freaks (2:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  11. Bus Rescue (Part 1) (0:42)
  12. Bus Rescue (Part 2) (1:01)
  13. I Just Wanted To Help (3:47)
  14. On The Road Again - Meet Lois (1:32)
  15. The Anomaly (0:47)
  16. The Scout Ship (5:16)
  17. The Scout Ship Takes Off (1:31)
  18. Who Are You? (3:47)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  19. First Flight (4:15)
  20. Lois Investigates (1:28)
  21. The Tornado (2:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  22. Homecoming (2:33)
  23. UFO - You Are Not Alone (4:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  24. Lois Arrested (0:43)
  25. Who Is This Kal Person? (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  26. What's On Your Mind? (2:31)
  27. Alien Ship Arrives (1:35)
  28. Surrender To Faora (0:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  29. Lois & Superman Brought Before Zod (1:30)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  30. Zod's Story (Part 1) (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  31. Zod's Story (Part 2) (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  32. Alien Ships Head To Kansas (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  33. Escape From Ship (4:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  34. Superman Rescues Mother - Smallville Duel (10:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  35. This Man Is Not Out Enemy (1:57)
  36. Release The World Engine (3:03)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  37. Terraforming (0:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  38. We Have A Plan - World Engine (9:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  39. We Did It (0:45)
  40. Destoy This Ship - Faora Attacks (4:22)
  41. Kiss (1:05)
  42. Final Confrontation (4:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  43. Battle Continues (4:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski
  44. Clark Kent, Reporter (5:26)
  45. Man Of Steel Suite (28:13)
    Hans Zimmer
  46. General Zod Suite (7:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  47. Clark Kent Suite (3:47)
    Hans Zimmer
  48. Action Drums Suite (3:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  49. Arcade Suite (7:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL
  50. Earth Suite (6:13)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  51. First Flight (Alternate) (4:18)
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-16 14:05:16
Added a couple of Mazzaro credits taken from his new website...


Anonymous2017-04-16 21:57:10
Nice! I see you've added them on the OST page too. The mystery is slowly becoming clearer.

kevin reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-22 13:40:02
Can anyone tell me where i can purchase or get the complete score of man of steel like the one above


Anonymous2016-12-22 17:28:27
Hey, kevin. Nowhere you can purchase this complete score, as it's an unreleased bootleg, Google for it.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2016-11-12 22:09:09
Has anyone else noticed that the last 2 minutes of the Zod suite sound very similar to the last 2 minutes of "We Are Now the Gods" from The Last Airbender?


Edmund Meinerts2016-11-13 15:17:20
Can't really say I agree.


mpolonest123 2016-11-13 17:34:48
Perhaps it's just me, the chords and tempo sounded close enough although the structure is different.


CWMChapman2016-11-15 00:43:27
Yeah I can hear a slight similarity, very interesting.

Cap reply Replies: 4 || 2016-10-17 13:38:32
Actually thought all the BvS cues were unreleased but appears Wreckage and The Desert are the only ones.


Bro2016-10-19 22:11:48
He's also pitched the audio down by approx 10% using a program like audacity, which cannot be reversed without severe defects/distortion/artifacts in the audio. Which kills it for me.


Ahmad2016-10-19 23:36:24
To me the only unreleased cue is "Wreckage"! The rest were actually released. "The Desert" is just edited "Blood Of My Blood", "Post Apocalypse" is "Must There Be A Superman?", "Thug Fight" is "Fight Night", "Underground Torture" is an edited part of "New Rules". In case anyone didn't know that already.

Some of the cues I wish were released are:
Bruce checking the drive (Meta humans)
Bruce training
Variations of "Day Of The Dead" (when superman arrives at the capitol building, when he fights doomsday, the cue right after "Black and Blue" when he flight to go fight Lex, Supes statue vandalism)
Variations of Lex's theme (Lex Corp Helipad scene - choir parts)



mpolonest123 2016-10-20 00:51:28
Actually the first 30 or so seconds of Post Apocalypse are unreleased, although it's nothing substantial.


Everan2016-10-20 15:47:48
I think some tiny bits of Desert and Post Apocalypse are used in the extended cut, just to add those few seconds of cut content. Wreckage is definetely new, and the start of Post Apocalypse sounds a bit different in the film due to the World Engine sound effect.

Leo reply Replies: 5 || 2016-10-19 07:22:27
I recall Zimmer claiming he composed the final battle sequence between Superman and General Zod, yet here we are, with a co credit with Andrew Andrew Kawczynski and Junkie XL. Pretty interesting, but a tad issapointed. :P


Leo2016-10-19 07:24:21
*Andrew Kawczynsk
*Dissapointed.


Leo2016-10-19 07:24:48
*Kawczynski


Edmund Meinerts2016-10-19 09:52:32
*Disappointed

;)


Leo2016-10-19 11:53:29
Indeed. xD


Mike2016-10-19 15:18:17
*sigh* I don't mean to sound like a bitter curmudgeon, but here goes, for everybody... :)

Hans *did* compose the final battle sequence! The entire "If You Love These People" / "Battle Continues" cue is written 90% of the way in the MoS Sketchbook suite. Even the final product may be 98% Zimmer. We don't know what Andrew Kawcynski contributed, but it may or may not have been substantial. A

nd even if he made all the changes from the suite version to the cue version, we need to remember a point that has been made several times here: Hans co-writes most of the cues! So even if someone else contributed, *he* still wrote it, too. It's not like he just sits back while everyone else goes to work on things.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 11 || 2016-10-15 14:24:45
I added a bunch of Andrew K credits here...


Mike2016-10-15 17:26:16
So on OST this translates to "DNA," "Are You Listening, Clark?" and "If You Love These People." Nice! Does he have more or is this it for him?


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-15 18:03:57
I don't know but he now has a website and a soundcloud where he put a lot of stuff. Check it out !


Mike2016-10-15 18:39:15
What is "Desperation" from TASM2? Is that an unreleased cue or a suite? I love it!


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-15 19:00:04
A lot of music is rejected, unused or left behind on every film... But it's totally great yeah, as well as his variation on the Terminator Theme !!


The Trope2016-10-17 10:00:01
Hybrid, would you be able to post a link to Andrew Kawczynski's site? I just can't seem to find it.


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-17 10:09:52
Is everyone so clumsy on the internet ? Apparently so !

Just click on Andrew's profile here, there's a link to his site !

And I wonder what will happen when you will try to find the soundcloud link on that very site ! :O


Mike2016-10-17 15:12:31
Every composer on this site, click on them and find the "www." link. There ya go. :P


Gilvane Cezar2016-10-17 17:27:16
https://soundcloud.com/andrewkawczynski
:)


The Trope2016-10-19 02:31:43
Thank you so much.


Sanders 2016-10-19 06:16:20
Hybrid - will there be a score release for War On Everyone ? I heard a cue on Twitter and love it ???????


Hybrid Soldier2016-10-19 10:16:07
No there won't be... :/

Cap reply Replies: 3 || 2016-10-17 01:15:26
How is no one talking about the unreleased cues on Kawczynski's site?? BvS, Chappie, Spiderman 2!


Russel2016-10-17 02:51:20
Look below your post...lol


Bro2016-10-17 06:35:48
What's his website, it doesn't seem to appear on google at all.


Bro2016-10-17 06:57:01
found it, nevermind.

groy42 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-07-23 02:49:05
Can someone point me in the right direction so if I were to happen to listen to these tracks where could I find something like this?

desch reply Replies: 8 || 2015-03-09 10:28:32
Great, however "First Flight (Film Mix)" doesn't correspond the actual film version.

In the final part, the violin stem is missing. Instead of this we get the electric guitar. Is this another case of the "No-time-for-caution-problem"?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-09 10:41:49
Yep, and all is here, the mix is just buried a little... Get over that kind of things, people... lol


Mortifer V.2015-03-09 11:59:17
It's not even close to being a NTFC problem.


Medigo2015-03-09 13:02:55
The violin stem is clearly there in the track
its just not easy to hear


Mike2015-03-09 14:23:10
Yeah, at this point, we just need to get over it. It's a much closer mix to the film version than the Flight track on CD, and it's much MUCH closer to its film counterpart than No Time for Caution was. The strings are definitely there, louder than on album. Be happy!


desch2015-03-09 15:14:29
Hybrid, thank you very much for clarification.

It's interesting though how this discussion leads to aggressive reactions. There's no need to be rude.

My comment was rather meant as indication, not to moan about differences between the versions.

I've listened to the film mix again and indeed the violin stem is there. I was just a bit confused because this stem is much louder in the actual film mix.

The term "No-time-for-caution-problematic" is to be unerstood in a general manner. I chose the Interstellar example to give this problem a name because it's the most known and most drastic example of differences between film and CD version.

Again, I have to apologize if my comment led to any inconveniences but there's no need to get aggressive and rude.

Now, let's get back to listen to some good MOS music ...


Anonymous2015-03-09 17:05:51
Inceptions 'dont think about elephants' is a much better NTFC case anyway, heh


Philip2015-03-09 18:08:08
Where in this First Flight "Film Mix" does this violin stem appear?


Anonymous2016-03-05 16:13:01
Old discussion and maybe this is too off-topic but one film-version cue that's even more troubling than NTFC for me is the Batman Chased cue... :P At least the core of NTFC is the same as the film version, they changed changed the organ emphasis. Same with the Flight alternate.

Scorefan reply Replies: 5 || 2015-03-10 23:13:27
Hybrid, one question will be available in the future the original 35 minutes hans sketchbook?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 23:26:10
No idea, don't think so.


Mike2015-05-08 16:03:58
Hans said in one interview that it got "really boring" after a while. or something to that effect, which is why he cut it back. But the stuff not there is undoubtedly in one or more of the other tracks. That tends to be how "shortened suites" work.


mpolonest1232016-01-24 17:50:19
Wrong post, sorry


@Hybrid, any idea what the cut music was? If Hans thought it was "boring" maybe it just was ambient filler stuff....


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-24 17:51:03
Hasn't changed, I still have no idea... lol


mpolonest1232016-01-24 18:39:17
Hahaha gotcha!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 1 || 2015-07-26 20:10:45
I couldn't stop loving and listening to the Man of Steel complete score!


mpolonest1232016-01-24 17:48:14
@Hybrid, any idea what the cut music was? If Hans thought it was "boring" maybe it just was ambient filler stuff....

Joshua reply Replies: 3 || 2015-08-20 18:17:51
@Hybrid, On twitter Eric Whitacre confirmed he was working on Hans Zimmer score for the next four months. That wouldn't happen to be for a certain super hero film would it?


Hybrid Soldier2015-08-20 18:29:13
Inferno.....


Joshua 2015-08-20 19:18:09
Cool, thank you sir.


Leo2015-08-21 03:37:54
HELL YES!

Duderino reply Replies: 2 || 2015-08-03 05:04:59
Hey there Hybrid.

How does one listen to this whole score?


Evenstar2015-08-04 00:16:03
With ears probably


Mr Tweedy2015-08-05 00:07:01
@Evenstar
Love your comment !

Mike reply Replies: 6 || 2015-04-04 17:37:18
So Atli worked on Launch Preparation (Goodbye My Son), eh? Funny, I guessed that all along. lol.


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 17:51:50
I didn't put it here for him.


Anonymous2015-04-04 17:54:06
haha fail comment


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 17:58:52
I put it for his sis' ! :P


Mike2015-04-04 18:04:33
Right... :P

Did she write her vocal part, then?


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-04 19:00:02
Nope it's to show her vocals on projects, that's all... :)


She's really nice, Hilda ! :)


Mike2015-04-04 20:03:51
You should do similar uploads for Lisa Gerrard, and maybe Dom Lewis for things like TASM2... :)

Dudu reply Replies: 3 || 2015-03-15 21:17:58
Hi Hybrid,
Since no one asked...why were you thanked in the booklet??And did you know your name would appear before the release? ;-)


Mike2015-03-15 21:47:51
You're right. I totally missed that one.


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-15 23:18:11
I wrote Zod's theme... I admit...


lol


No it was just for H-Z.com... ;)


Mike2015-03-15 23:19:20
Well, Hybrid, in that case, I hate to say it, but the Zod theme is my least favorite part of this score... :P

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 3 || 2015-03-12 14:34:18
Final Confrontation and Battle Continues are the mother of all third acts in film soundtracks.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-12 15:04:05
"I Don't Think Now's the Best Time" and the motherfucking Mount Doom sequence beg to freaking differ.


RealFfingMusic2015-03-12 18:12:32
King of Pride Rock, Chevalier de Sangreal, WOrld's Fattest Fertiliser Salesman, God Save Us, Dumbledore's Farewell, It's Our Fight, Finale (Train Fight), Where We're Going, blah-la-blah-blah . . . each after his/her own taste. Hooray . . . zzzz.


Zimson2015-03-12 18:37:01
My music is better than yours!!!!111
However, I agree that those are the best parts of the score (together with Launch). Ffing Rocks!

ei18 reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-10 21:41:09
What do the numbers mean in the track names for complete scores? For instance, "3m15b First Flight"? thanks!


Anonymous2015-03-10 21:48:01
Like the film themselves when they are delivered to theatres, the music comes on reels. the first number represents the reel the music is on. The m represents "music", or "cue". The next number represents what cue # it is. And "b" means it's the second parts of the cue. There was most likely an "a".

so 3m15b = reel 3, cue 15b


ei182015-03-10 21:50:56
Gotcha, thanks!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 8 || 2015-03-08 15:25:43
Thanks Soldier. The complete film score of Man of Steel is ultimately the BEST I've ever listened to! Kudos to Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, and Steve Mazzaro!


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 18:05:07
Best ever...best....evvverr.............kkkkkrkrkr


Mike2015-03-08 18:15:52
lol...It's a good score IMO, but the fanboyism makes me laugh. :P


T-Mann0362015-03-08 20:35:00
After listening over 3 hours of the Man of Steel complete score, it's extremely difficult for me to find which track was the best. All of them are the best, IMHO, because it truly match the action and emotion directly from the film.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-09 09:23:37
Yes, how revolutionary of Zimmer to write a score that matches the action and emotion of the film!


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-09 09:54:30
I apologize for being such an asshole.


T-Mann0362015-03-09 15:25:11
Apologies accepted.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-10 09:58:28
I don't apologize for jack shit, because that wasn't me.


RealFfingMusic2015-03-10 12:01:13
Ah! the old namesake controversy.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2015-03-08 14:06:08
I think Atli did Bus Rescue (Part 1), The Scout Ship, Faora Attacks... But I'll never know I guess... lol


T-Mann0362015-03-09 20:16:51
If your assumption is true, Soldier, you could be right. After listening to Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters and The Code (Complete Score), I have to say that Atli have done Hans' homework and given an A+.

Mike reply Replies: 20 || 2015-03-08 15:52:27
"Clark Kent suite" - is that "This is Clark Kent" off the album?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-08 15:55:31
Yeah, we'll it's a just a part of the Sketchbook with alt percs at the end, probably to make it available on the 1 CD version of the OST, for those not getting the Sketchbook...


Mike2015-03-08 16:03:42
Also nice to have Escape From Ship, SFX-free. I find it interesting that not many people talk about the Earth Suite. It's quite nice, IMO.


Adam2015-03-08 17:04:31
Oh my God this was leaked!?!? Can't believe it!


Anonymous2015-03-08 18:23:13
Earth Suite is just Earth off the OST. Nothing new


Ds2015-03-08 18:46:17
Mike why are you laughing? Zimmer fanboyism is the most beautiful form of fanboyism and day after day I feel proud of being a fanboy of Hans :-D


Adam2015-03-08 18:51:21
Me too, Ds!! :D


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 19:18:48
Fanboyism is not something to be proud of. You can be a fan of somebody without blindly praising every score they put out and saying it's the greatest thing ever written (until, of course, the next one comes out). There's plenty of stuff by John Powell that I'll be the first to admit isn't that great (Fair Game...zzzzz) - doesn't stop me being a fan of his! Same with Hans. I'm really not trying to take the fun out of music or anything, but the tiniest amount of critical listening really does go a long way, IMO.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 19:20:57
Also, Ds, I should say that I don't think YOU are a "fanboy" in the negative sense of the term. You're certainly enthusiastic about Hans but you also have actual things to say about the music beyond "OMG SO AWESOME BEST EVR" - that's really all I ask. :)


Marcos2015-03-08 20:00:49
is not Fanboyism, is just the fact that at last we got something we have been waiting for long long time. Besides is the same music of the album but expanded, there is not too much new to say about the score.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-08 20:08:23
A person saying that this is the BEST score they had ever heard (based on one listen to the complete score) isn't fanboyism? I get that people are excited to have this...but come on.


Mike2015-03-08 20:12:12
Ds, what Edmund said. :) Trust me when I tell you I'm a huge fan of Zimmer. Most of my scores—heck, most of my music, maybe!—come from him, but as Edmund pointed out, it's good to appreciate someone's music AND be able to listen somewhat critically, beyond just "OMG GREATEST SCORE EVER".

I admit, "fanboy" tendencies come out in me from time to time (like when this score first came out...I thought it was the greatest thing). But largely due to commenters like Edmund, and much as I almost always disagree with it, sites like Filmtracks, I now approach scores with both an enthusiastic and a critical ear. I still like MoS a lot and listen to it often, for example, but I now also notice some of its faults more clearly than I did at first. :)


Marcos2015-03-08 20:19:19
well . . for me is really the best!, after the dark knight trilogy of course. :P . All Zimmer's works with Nolan (as producer in this case) curiosly are his best works, and i say this musically speaking


Adam2015-03-08 20:35:15
It is healthy to be able to criticize HZ because there's too many people who drool over all his works and say he's the best!! Does it count if I say Pirates 4 is horrible? :P


Mike2015-03-08 20:37:49
Eh, idk...doesn't EVERYONE agree about POTC4 being horrible? ;)


Marcos2015-03-08 20:44:20
I swear , i listened All Zimmer's works (released of course) , but i never listened even one album of Pirates of Caribbean, i don't know why . . is rare because i know that it's one of his most important works, but some of this does not appeal to me


Adam2015-03-08 21:10:00
That's why I asked if it counts about Pirates 4! :D

I may have to think of some other Zimmer scores that aren't great. Hmm this can take a while!


Ds2015-03-08 22:02:29
Well Edmund I think you are right. Even if in this case I ´m almost incapable of criticizing any Zimmer score. Even if some of his output surprised me in a bad way, I learned one lesson: Zimmer is a visionary and I have always ended up liking his music. Always. Maybe a few days or weeks or even months later. In other words I choose to trust his talent over my (limited) musical taste. The same applies to Thomas Bergersen as well, but that´s it.

But yeah I am also a bit tired of people screaming that every new score is his best ever. Everyone knows his best are King Arthur and At World´s End :-p


Medigo2015-03-08 22:16:37
Hans can hardly be blamed for how POC4 ended up


Mike2015-03-08 22:17:57
True. And Hans himself apologized that anyone had to listen to it (it does have good themes, where new music is concerned, too, so it's not all terrible).


Adam2015-03-08 22:27:32
I think of PotC4 as like a "best of" from the trilogy lol!

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 15:10:03
If there was one complete score I was eagerly waiting for, it was definitely this one. So freaking amazing action music, Escape From Ship, Smallville Duel (10 minutes of violence!!), Final Confrontation... I'm delighted. What a week, thanks HZ!

Scott reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 14:02:19
This is so much better than the album.

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-08 13:13:58
Does anybody (@Hybrid) know if there's any difference between "Terraforming" in OST and "38. We Have a Plan - World Engine"?


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-08 13:17:03
From what I remember the mix is slightly different. And well on OST the mastering is fucked up... lol


Anonymous2015-03-08 13:25:22
As usual we just had to wait for the "foot warmer" in order to get the presentation the score deserves - both in terms of content and, surprising, mastering. /rant.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 12:27:45
I guess this is as good a time as any to give this score a second chance. :)

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-08 12:03:42
YES!!! We waited for this 2 Years and now I can't stop listening :D

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