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Budapest, please :(Same question here, is concert in Poland even concidered to occur?if the link doesn't work for some reason, the song is called Cliffhanger Sky High on youtubeHi All, sorry it took so long to upload, My friend helped me set up a youtube channel to upload tracks to. I am very inspired by the classic Zimmer Scores of the 90's. I envisioned A climactic rescue aboard A speeding train for this particular cue.<br>https://youtu.be/4WyMIcpqMRk <br>I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.<br>===============<br><br>No one dragged anything. <br><br>I briefly mentioned that franchise, among many other things you conveniently ignored (you do that a lot), to prove a simple point: that a director doesn't get to make 5 movies from the same franchise if people aren't enjoying his work. Simple as that. I never talked about the "quality" of each of those movies. Go see the comment again.<br><br>YOU picked up on this and started talking obsessively about the TF. <br><br><br>==============<br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes. <br>==============<br><br>Look at your first comment here, pal. Look at it good! Snarky, dismissive, almost trollish, and with a clear intention to provoke people. Let me quote it: "Another day, another Bay film that doesn't know what fun is." <br><br>I only "go after" people who can't share their opinions in a respectful, mature way. There are a lot of comments here I disagreed with. But I never confronted those people. Why? Because they know how to properly share an opinion. <br><br>I only go after people who provoke, make fun of someone/something and troll. I've never "attacked" a person who didn't deserve that kind of response. My post history here speaks for itself. <br><br><br>===================<br>And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br>===================<br><br>Nope. Not even close. <br><br>You're just bitter that I'm using quotes from proven, talented people like Spielberg who support Bay. What quotes can your side use? Just quotes from knucklehead film bloggers and critics who hate half of what Hollywood makes. <br><br>No one with an actual integrity and knowledge of the film business can dismiss what Bay has accomplished. You may not like his stuff, but to completely dismiss him as a filmmaker is.......moronic. Truth is, it's only small fries on the internet who are angry that their favorite mid-level directors aren't as big and successful as Bay.<br><br>That's really the bottom line. <br><br>Speaking of that, who is YOUR favorite filmmaker? Go ahead, share it with us. Let's see who is that PERFECT filmmaker you drool over.<br><br>I'm really curious.<br><br>==============<br>By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films. But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br>==============<br><br>Huh??<br><br>When did I said that box office success or box office failure means that a movie is good or bad?? I never that. So if you don't mind, stop putting words in my mouth.<br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>==================<br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't<br>==================<br><br><br>Kinda ironic coming from the person who ignored the majority of the stuff I said here. Careful cherry-picking, convenient ignoring of stuff, and putting words in my mouth is apparently what you like to do. <br><br><br>================<br>What do you mean "next time?" Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.<br>================<br><br>Uhhhh, that's because it IS a joke. Because it is not true and because it was posted with the clear intention to provoke. You are the Negative Nancy here, my friend. Not me. Jesus Christ, even your nickname tells people exactly what they can expect from you......"Cynical Makooti". <br><br><br>====================<br>I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument<br>====================<br><br>Oh, that's true....................you're certainly not winning this argument. I mean, that's obvious. <br><br>And..... I never posted a lie. Just because "your sources" claim something different doesn't mean it's the truth. Pacific Rim wasn't a success - considering the huge expactations and the fact that the movie's budget is $200 freakin' million - and they DID try to start a franchise with 300. They failed. <br><br><br>================<br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br>================<br><br>That's rich. Coming from the guy who calls himself "Cynical Makooti". The guy who now plays the victim, even though he was the one who started this with a childish, trollish comment. <br><br>Look at my first reply to you. I was jokingly mimicking your style. Intentionally. Then you tried to be a smartass with your next reply. But EVEN THEN, I responded in a normal way with my second post. After that........you unleashed your true self. <br><br>And now, you're acting like the victim: "Poor me, being attacked by a crazy Bay fan!" <br><br>So please, don't talk about self-awareness. It ain't working.<br><br><br><br>================<br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br>================<br><br>Haha, maybe you should read more Forbes. Take a look at what they said about the entire (already failed) Pac Rim universe. Read a bit more on how much money the studio lost from the first flick and why they actually went with a sequel. It ain't because the first one was a beloved hit. <br><br><br>=======<br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves. That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br>=======<br><br>Okay, I believe you. Now, would you please share the link to that statement from Paramount. <br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>=============<br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br>=============<br><br>Hey, it's certainly a better and more reasonable place than your world. A world where you completely dismiss and ignore the accomplishments of one of the biggest filmmakers out there.<br><br>What's your next claim? <br><br>That Donnie Trump is the best President in history?<br><br><br>Have a nice day!
Do any of you think that Junkie's Justice League score will ever get released or leaked? I was really excited to hear how Junkie planned on developing the themes used in the prior DCEU movies. Especially the Batman themes from BVS. It's a damn shame how WB handled that film."Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1."<br><br>Newsflash: I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it. Only then did I treat them as fair game. Considering they make up a third of his filmography, I don't see why I SHOULDN'T address them. How convenient is it that bringing them up is only ever valid when YOU do it?<br><br>More to the point, I already said I thought his decline kicked in from Pearl Harbor onwards. The TF films are just his rock bottom.<br><br>"So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic."<br><br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes. And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br><br>Pain & Gain and 13 Hours, his supposedly best films, also have his lowest box office turnouts. 13 Hours was a flat-out bomb. By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films. But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br><br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't.<br><br>"Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything."<br><br>What do you mean "next time?" Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke. You already have this method down. You're just too dishonest to admit it.<br><br>Notice how I avoided accusing you of anything until AFTER you started outright lying about movies and flaunting it as objective fact.<br><br>You insulted ME first, pal. I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument. Not for your opinions, not for your celebrity crush, for being a disingenuous twat. <br><br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br><br>"Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality."<br><br>Then it's a good thing I never quoted a single one of those, let alone as objective proof, isn't it?<br><br>Man, appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, mistaking correlation for causation, slothful induction, strawmanning, I could make a bingo game outta this.<br><br>"So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?"<br><br>Not "according to me." According to the studios that make the actual films. And Forbes. Remember Forbes? You considered their word inarguable fact a couple posts ago.<br><br>https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/09/02/pacif ic-rim-and-more-domestic-flops-that-became-global-hits/#3f3e 914d7c18<br><br>Well whaddaya know?<br><br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br><br>That thing you said TF5 was but actually wasn't.<br><br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves. That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br><br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br><br>Wow! Just wow!ThxSeville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.Can we stop? I agree with the other guy more in his points, but it's clear that this is gonna keep going nowhere if you're gonna be so overly defensive about something that you claim is merely subjective.
But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br>======================<br><br><br>Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1. <br><br>So no, "challenging the viewer" is not about Transformers. You chose to focus on these movies. Not me. I was actually reffering to Bay movies like The Island and especially Pain and Gain. <br><br>But I guess you like to talk only about Transformers.....Good for you. But that's not how a discussion works. <br><br><br>===================<br>Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br>===================<br><br><br>So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic? <br><br>Wow! Just wow!<br><br>Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything. For you, that is apparently the normal behavior.<br><br><br>======<br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.<br>=======<br><br>Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality. Also, a "bad" movie to you is the greatest movie for the guy walking next to you on the street. As Kevin Smith said: "Every movie is someone's favorite movie". <br><br>Let's try to keep that in mind.<br><br><br>============<br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br>============<br><br>Really?<br><br>Then what do you have to say about Pacific Rim 1. I present to you.......the pure numbers:<br><br>Budget: $200 million. And that doesn't include the marketing cost.<br>Worldwide gross: $411,002,906<br><br>So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?<br><br>Wow! Just.....wow!Yeah lol back then only Harold was confirmed.Can you tell me a names of cues, that was been on Klaus website?Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?
well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man. Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want. If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny. When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard. That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here. Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality. But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career. I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money. Period. Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie. <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.nope
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  1. Survive (1:40)
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  2. Escape (3:28)
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  3. Immortan's Citadel (8:58)
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  4. Blood Bag (3:39)
    Tom Holkenborg, Christian Vorländer
  5. Buzzards Arrive (1:26)
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  6. Spikey Cars (4:08)
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  7. Storm Is Coming (6:16)
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  8. We Are Not Things (1:42)
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  9. Water (6:25)
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  10. The Rig (6:31)
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  11. Into The Canyon (2:49)
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  12. Brothers In Arms (5:52)
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  13. The Chase (3:16)
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  14. Moving On (1:56)
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  15. The Bog (12:32)
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  16. Redemption (1:45)
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  17. Many Mothers (8:58)
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  22. Walhalla Awaits (2:40)
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Scorefan reply Replies: 7 || 2018-11-18 03:09:27
Tom is gonna score Mortal Engines
What kind of sound do you expect?

Sideshow Bob2018-11-18 05:23:48
a more orchestral fury road

Agent2018-11-18 15:15:45
For a Peter Jackson production I was expecting Howard Shore.

Thomas Branson2018-11-18 16:06:14
I think that Howard´s style of music doesn´t really fit to the post apocalyptic genre

Mike2018-11-18 18:54:19
Eh, Shore is a smart composer. He could make it work. I guess whether that's what studios think audiences want is another question entirely...

Sideshow Bob2018-11-18 21:34:16
emoji movie. live action Pokémon movie. 5 transformers movies. Let’s be honest studios have no clue what people want

Edmund Meinerts2018-11-20 15:29:05
Given how much money those 5 Transformers movies have brought in, maybe they do have a clue

HunterTech2018-11-20 20:34:32
Not to mention people are actually excited for the Pokémon movie, and as hated as it is, Emoji Movie apparently did okay at the box office.

So I suppose what we should say is that we probably should be concerned about our current generation of movie goers. :P

George reply Replies: 0 || 2018-11-19 15:06:13
Wasn’t sure where to post this but anyone looking for a classic RCP style score check out Robin Hood by Joseph Trapanese - I know he’s not an RCP guy but this sounds very much like 2,000s Zimmer and co.
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Anon reply Replies: 2 || 2018-03-18 20:26:14
Some of you may like this guy's cover of Brothers in Arms! Pretty epic, honestly.

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=LCIY41hopq4

meta2018-03-18 23:39:33
I think I just sharted myself. Thanks!

Mike (OTM)2018-03-19 03:37:10
Wow. Pretty solid! It keeps the core track intact and, somehow, adds even more raw power into it. Thanks for sharing!

...... reply Replies: 3 || 2017-10-11 02:44:04
Have any ASCAP cue sheets popped up for this? Or any JXL scores for that matter? I'm interested in which cues weren't released

......2017-10-11 02:44:33
Same with Run All Night/Point Break

Edmund Meinerts2017-10-11 11:48:03
I find it hard to believe that anything from Run All Night or Mad Max wasn't released with the two-hour albums they got.

Rigby2017-10-11 17:00:51
There were a few unreleased from Mad Max if I remember correctly. Only one from Run All Night that was pretty decent.

James reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-09 05:08:36
I watched the movie today (yes, a crime) and I'm speechless. My eyes are blurred, my ears are buzzing, my legs are shaking, my stomach is upset ... I'm tense. I do not remember ever seeing a movie as harmful to the senses as this (in a good way).

Maybe when those "symptoms" pass I change my mind, but for now, that's it.

Wow!

And XL, well...
nailed it!

The conductor of the choir of death ... lol

matthew reply Replies: 3 || 2015-05-25 18:58:40
Its always a surprise to see the fact that people / fans / critics / moviegoers / haters actually do not really (REALLY) listen to music. its either somewhat similar or its not and that is the end. the person behind the Hybrid Soldier name said not so long ago that there is zero Hans in this score, nothing...
well, its an interesting thing to say because the score that was released in europe and the version of the movie was maybe a special studio cut but I'm convinced that I heard many-many times the almost ancient Zimmer choir motif...
Hans started to use this signature motif somewhere around crimson tide and since then, everybody in remote control history, I mean everybody used it. also Hans is still today obsessed about it and nobody talks about this. its almost like the famous "danger motif" from Horner. but, yes its true that Hans is in re-invent mode every time, so sometimes its a female choir or sometimes male but fuck, dont bullshit around after 20 years of music.
other then that, yes its Junkie alone but in the end its not only his craft, he borrowed / used directly from HZ in this too.

Hybrid Soldier2015-05-25 19:03:42
Don't mistake sound samples and music style.

Jergens2015-05-25 19:14:44
Well of course he must have - Junkie is a protege of Hans Zimmer....Like all the other composers - Badelt, Jablosnky, Powell, etc. - When they first started their scores sounded similar to Hans' music in terms of orchestration and motifs used...

not to denigrade the man's work, but this doesn't surprise me and I'm fine with that...Junkie will develop his own sound eventually and explore new techniques, just as I'm sure Zimmer tutored him to do....Jesus I remember when both Powell and Jablonsky's scores sounded practicaly the same to Junkie's...And this was a decade ago.

bm18932016-09-26 20:18:11
Bit late to the party but IMO you're absolutely right. If you listen to these pieces back to back with the Crimson Tide score, which is phenomenal, you'll notice how present Zimmer's influence is.

Anonymous reply Replies: 5 || 2016-03-30 22:11:38
I want the film mix of the final chase (Chapter Doof) so bad!! It's freaking awesome. Sadly the extended version cue in the standard edition still missing my favorite piece. :(

marc2016-04-02 16:25:00
The final chase sequence contains (Claw Trucks, Immortan & Chapter Doof), however they missing few parts as the doof warrior (that flame-throwing base guitar) last performance is totally different than the OST one.

Just wait for the isolated score. :D


Anonymous2016-04-02 18:20:53
There's not going to be an isolated score

doof2016-04-02 18:41:53
The isolated score should be part of the Black-And-White version new DVD release, right?

Anonymous2016-04-03 00:03:19
This was never confirmed by WB. George Miller said he'd like to release it, and all of a sudden people are expecting B&W with an isolated score. Sigh...

Gotham_Rogue2016-07-08 16:51:48
For those of you that were interested, WB confirmed a DVD release including the black and white edition of the film, so an isolated score might be a possibility.

D A R T H reply Replies: 1 || 2016-03-25 09:40:56

Survive

Escape

Immortan's Citadel


Blood Bag

Buzzards Arrive

Spikey Cars

Storm Is Coming

We Are Not Things

Water

The Rig

Into The Canyon

Brothers In Arms

The Chase

Elegy For Rosa (Karaindrou)

Moving On

The Bog

Dies Irae (Verdi)

Redemption

Refugee's Theme, Symphonic Variation No. 1 (Karaindrou)

Many Mothers

The Return To Nowhere

Claw Trucks

Immortan

Chapter Doof

Walhalla Awaits

My Name Is Max

Let Them Up

Mary Jo Bassa

Coda


Teardrop (Massive Attack) (source music ?)

Little Secrets(Professor Green, Uncreditred, Japanese Release end song ? )



Anonymous2016-03-26 03:17:18
ok and what is this. nothing special.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2015-10-07 23:26:42
Little who did what here...

Edmund Meinerts2015-10-07 23:32:03
Good to know, even if there's not much TO know. ;)

Who's Eleni Karaindrou?

Hybrid Soldier2015-10-07 23:36:19
Some old greek composer apparently... She's credited for 2 source cues in the film... Probably used by Junkie.

Elegy For Rosa
Composed by Eleni Karaindrou

Refugee's Theme Symphonic Variation No. 1
Composed by Eleni Karaindrou

billy2015-10-08 14:47:03
Eleni Karaindrou is one of the best Greek composers!! Glad to see that Junkie used her work!! I had noticed it, but I wasn't sure. Some of her best compositions are "The Wedding Waltz", "Canteen Rock", "The Weaping Meadow" and "Eternity Theme".

Marc2015-10-08 15:40:10
Great! It's always interesting to know the full composing credits!

Evenstar2015-10-08 16:15:05
Many Mothers not 100% by Junkie? Damn, I thought it was an original piece... :(

billy2015-10-08 16:34:25
I think the Many Mother's version released on cd (until 5:16) is original. That's what I understood from the third studio time with Junkie XL tutorial.

Doof reply Replies: 0 || 2015-07-29 14:41:25
Does anybody know which scene in the movie does the last one and half minutes of Chapter Doof track comes in? Right after the drop in the tempo. I am unable to make out.

Jo reply Replies: 3 || 2015-05-20 03:16:06
Brothers in Arms is absolutely incredible!

I don't know how any film score lover can hate that track. Rest of the score maybe but that one track is freaking incredible.

x2015-07-06 08:05:18
ultra frikin epic best OST song ever :´)

Edmund Meinerts2015-07-06 14:47:43
I must have gone to the YouTube comments section by mistake.

Mike2015-07-06 16:01:51
I agree, typically JunkieXL's music doesn't do much for me, but I can't help enjoying "Brothers in Arms."

Credits Track reply Replies: 2 || 2015-06-20 07:03:05
Anyone know if the music from the end credits has been released?

NotSoAnonymous2015-06-21 17:59:30
Also curious about this!

Anonymous2015-06-21 19:13:40
No they haven't

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 5 || 2015-05-27 08:41:56
One thing I don't understand, what's the deal with Tom v Junkie? What is the purpose of the two names? Which one does he go by? Which one will he use in the future?

And why, here, has he used both?

Hybrid Soldier2015-05-27 09:02:24
His artist name was Junkie long before film scoring.

Funny thing is when he scored Dutch films he went with his real name Tom (though he's named Antonius Bernardus Johannes Holkenborg lol... remember the Antonius remix in Sherlock 2 ? ;)).

In Hollywood he went with Junkie (not on TDKR though), but he seems to go back toward Holkenborg recently. Now seems to be the transitional phase with the 2 names. I guess in the future he'll be Tom Holkenborg only... :) In the end, I don't matter as long as I know who we're talking about !! :)

Speaking of him and Mad Max, just check his recently posted videos, it's great insight !

youtube.com/watch?v=VkNeXS0Lmxc&list=PLPDbiB89zUSI-bAKsef_UC 87OMsHrv_tR&index=4

Edmund Meinerts2015-05-27 20:23:15
My name is Antonius Bernardus Johannes Holkenborg. Father of a murdered child, husband of a murdered wife and blah blah blah you know the rest. ;)

Hybrid Soldier2015-05-27 20:23:57
Poor Dutch people... :P

RealFfingMusic2015-05-30 19:21:18
That didn't seem at all logical to me. Both Hybrid's account for JXL's name-dilemma, as well as Edmund's Fake-Junkie bio.

Zimson2015-06-20 21:16:12
Lol, Edmund. Why do I see that post only now. :D
I just came here to say that this turns out to be Junkie's first GREAT score imo. I already liked Divergent but Mad Max just tops it all.
I only managed to see the movie this week since I didn't have the time recently, but man, it was a blast, and "Brothers in Arms" was perfectly integrated into the bike chase scene, perhaps made it the best scene in the entire movie.

YOman reply Replies: 1 || 2015-05-27 15:54:28
Hybrid, check "Black Mass" trailer - "Music by: Tom Holkenborg" without JXL.

YOman2015-05-27 15:56:23
Ooops new topic instead "reply" previous thread

Megalith reply Replies: 1 || 2015-05-26 01:00:29
I'm convinced that Hans actually did Brothers in Arms. Must have stumbled in drunk one night.

Scorefan2015-05-26 23:34:07
It was Tom not Hans. Hybrid said it before.

META reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-25 19:17:30
FYI the music that plays when Furiosa is stabbed during the final chase is in the piece "Immortan", about in the middle.

The piece starts off with the scene after the first chase when they lose the pregnant bride...Then it kicks into Furiosa's stab scene, then some other actiom music I dont remember.

But in case you were looking for that bit to put right before Chapter Doof drops the bass, that's the track....

Adrian reply Replies: 5 || 2015-05-19 08:00:18
I think the score of BvS:DoJ is in good hands :)

...2015-05-19 15:49:32
Lol this reminds me of how the media often forgets that Hans is also scoring it! They go like "Junkie XL who's also scoring BvS" and sometimes they add zimmer's name as nr 2 lol.

MacArthur 2015-05-24 05:33:14
I was gonna say the original Composer announced was Hans. does anybody ever pay attention to that

...2015-05-24 19:23:45
What?

MacArthur2015-05-25 17:07:57
I was Basically reiterating what you were saying.

...2015-05-25 17:25:40
Now I saw what you meant! Indeed. Since when is Junkie THE film composer and Zimmer the co composer...

Guitwo reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-24 17:49:53
fits the movie perfectly well. incredibly powerful... the only problem to this soundtrack and you could say that both the movie and the soundtrack have the same flaws no real story (action-like road movie), furiosa and max are the same character, they almost have the same background story. no real need of a theme. They are interesting cues but nothing that truly deserves a melody.
the pursuit cue and the epic cue when furiosa and max are working as one-two punch. But that's pretty much about it.
as a whole, there are many ressemblance between this soundtrack and what zimmer has done since the joker theme. the ostinato motif, the big drum/percs ensemble, the sound design, the heavy guitars/electric strings, the bane theme as well.
it fits the movie very well. it's a good score. i enjoyed the movie even more. it was breath-taking. it's a great flick from Miller. I stayed out of any trailers for a year so it was really fascinating and surprising. The movie cost 150m$ and you can really say "here they really spend that money". Doing almost all the stunts for real at our epoch is challenging. hats off for miller. No cgi heavy movie. I expect a lot more from the second movie story-wise tho.

Evenstar reply Replies: 1 || 2015-05-19 19:26:38
Best work by Junkie XL to date.

YOman2015-05-19 19:35:23
Saturday Teenage Kick still better.

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-19 08:12:54
Immortan's Citadel, Storm Is Coming, The Rig, Brothers In Arms, The Bog, Chapter Doof and Walhalla Awaits are perfect.
This score has a lot of energy, is strong and Im very happy with the length. It's crazy!

Scorefan reply Replies: 2 || 2015-05-18 22:54:12
EPIC Movie, EPIC Score. Like Hybrid said, 2.5 years working on this, that's the reason of the influence in man of Steel and 300 rise of an empire. Great great score.

Edmund Meinerts2015-05-18 23:11:47
Huh. Here I was thinking working on something for 2.5 years would make it more original!

Scorefan2015-05-19 00:40:12
For me it's original from Tom. And remember, that's the musical visión from George Miller too.

Toyota Hybrid reply Replies: 2 || 2015-05-16 18:35:47
Tonight I'll watch Mad Max... lol

Ds2015-05-16 23:59:01
Lol

Johnson2015-05-17 14:29:15
Not sure which it is, but the scene where One of the women die during the final chase - the music is not on the OST...Unless I'm mistaken and its under the Immortan track. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

End credits piece is also not on the OST...

... reply Replies: 7 || 2015-05-14 10:14:35
I am sure the director asked for this, but I feel very empty after have my heard 2 hours and 6 minutes of mad max fury road. Tom has some talent and it can be spotted at times like in brothers in arms, but for the most part of this score, he kills melody and just has sound design. Sure we're in 2015 and he's in the spotlight but why does he kill melody? Melody is such an important part of music. In my opinion, Tom did make a 45 min long score and then for the rest he worked on sound effects that made their way to the album which is sadly so much longer than the average Zimmer score (not talking about MOS and INterstellar). I have no problem with this sound because I don't have to listen to it and it probably works in the movie. What worries me is that Tom is going to score batman. I really hope he reinvents himself for that task because if batman is just sound effects that's kind of depressing after Hans effort on the Nolan trilogy!

Hybrid Soldier2015-05-14 11:23:51
Yeah for sure Run All Night doesn't have a proper theme... lol

...2015-05-14 11:26:20
I can't say anything about run all night as I haven't heard it. I'm not saying he can't compose a theme. I just said that this score did not. The theme that plays in my name is max isn't by holkenborg. The more traditional cues, the divergent cue and the brothers cue are the best.


Hybrid Soldier2015-05-14 11:30:54
And don't you think George Miller wanted this ?

Tom spent like 2.5 year on it, they had plenty of time to discuss it...

...2015-05-14 11:58:11
Yes as I stated above, the director of course wanted this. I still think it's a bit bland.

If you compare this to say divergent (Junkies best score imo) do you like it a lot?

Par2015-05-14 17:19:37
A bit off topic, but thought I'd share some info from the players PoV. I know some musicans who have played film music and apparently the experience isn't very nice anymore. This is evacuee they Record in sections so you don't get the full picture. Apparently very frustrating. I can't speak for the brass as I only know about strings and viola.

Hybrid, do you know if pitch was recorded in this way?

Lambegue2015-05-15 01:52:26
Saw the film today, and it's exceptionnal, I absolutely loved it. Quick, brutal and very inventive in it's action scenes and graphical ideas, and managing to create interesting characters in the middle of so many action scenes, with most of the time not a lot of dialogues...
About Junkie's score, I won't spoil anything but it has quite an amusing justification in the movie...I still don't like it a lot as a standalone experience, but understand better the reason for it.

...2015-05-15 12:06:57
The movie was AWESOME!!!

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-15 10:21:26
(I'm sorry for the long testament, bare with me and I hope some understand) I'll be honest in my own opinion, I've heard Tom scoring from being a co-written work with Hans, to doing Paranoia and time went by and we got this. Now, from what you can hear, Tom mostly uses synth sounds while also using actual collection of instruments from an orchestra. I did like Paranoia for it to be one of his first features, but from that to Divergent, later 300, then Run all night and now this, it is a change. Of course he has some similarities on his various film scores but like any composer, it happens. He may be struggling getting the right idea of music for every piece he writes and composes and that is a tough job (after all, this particular score took him 2 years to complete), for which I believe that having Hans helping him out from time to time is a good thing... After all, there is a reason Hans believes in him and gave him the opportunity of this kind of career, which goes back to my point, Tom as an ex DJ is used to synth musical sounds and he feels comfortable on that kind of area. That being said, Divergent seemed fun, 300 like a loud but action felt kind of a score. Run all night is a surprise cause every musical beat I get to like is all over the place, but then in the film the music works well without a single issue. Now, going back to Mad Max (which had a similarity to Run all night being all over the place) this is a real surprise, because analyzing it as the music that it is, around half of the full material or a bit more is actual score material, the rest is pure sounds and ambiance which if you realize, you can find that in many of the bonus tracks (even though it is also spread around the normal tracks as well), my expectation for this was over the top, and after Hybrid released the track "brothers in arms" I was over the top for it, especially when the note in the minute 3:00 hits and becomes emotional but also heroic, which if you see the film you will understand (apart from the track title already speaking for itself). There are good sentimental moments of music like "redemption" or "moving on" just like "many mothers" which is exceptional in its beauty, but then again, as an individual piece of analysis, I find that the track Hybrid released was actually the best, and that most of the score was spread around ambiance and sounds which I did not favor at all. I do recommend for you all to see the film, it is brilliant and I was on the edge of my seat most of the time, and yes, most of it was due to the spectacle and visuals just as the choreography, but its the music that works BRILLIANTLY wrapping it all as a masterpiece. It is until you see the film that you get to understand the score as a whole and see it in a different perspective. I am not sure and probably going out on a limb here but I felt like all that was released was actually in the movie, like the full score was there, but since everything went so fast I may be wrong. Also, if some find the guitar parts cool but also all spread out instead of all fixed together (I felt that too) do go and see the film and you will understand why, the reason is both cool and funny (but if you have seen some TV Spots you may have guessed what I am talking about). If someone can get a track list of the order of songs in the film I would appreciate it since it all ran to fast for me to picture every single one (even though I got atleast a bit more than half of them on my head in order if I am sure). All that being said, Tom has talent, he should try and work more out of his comfort zone with synths but after all, even if we buy the music, the score itself is meant for the movie, and yes it works perfectly in every way, so there is no reason to be worried about that. I believe that all in all and having watched the movie, I truly believe that this is his best work in the visual matter, now as an individual piece of music, I won't debate that since that really is a matter of taste and thorough analysis.

Sinak reply Replies: 2 || 2015-05-14 13:50:19
I'll be honest, like for me it's almost only noise, random sounds, I do not understand admiration for this job ... I'm afraid of superman in edition of this "composer"

Hybrid Soldier2015-05-14 16:20:44
Who already co-wrote Man Of Steel... lol

Sinak2015-05-15 08:21:53
Yes it's true, but he made it with Zimmer, and we don't know what he put inside of some tracks from him self. I heard (mr. Tom XL) his own soundtracks like: 300 and Run all night - and they have this same problem, are boring, noisy, without soul. Of course it is only my opinion. But truly what are you think about Mad Max? Of course we can find some interesting moments but...only small parts of the score.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2015-05-13 00:07:56
Wow.

This actually might be the most intense score I've ever heard. But what's really mind blowing here isn't the action music, but THAT string writing!

"Many Mothers" may in fact be the most beautiful cue I've heard so far this year.

Meta2015-05-13 05:46:08
Is there some kind of honor system at play with Remote Control? What I mean is, do underling/fresh composers have a quota they have to meet before they can upgrade to use the good shit? I say this because this score takes me back to Hans Zimmer's Peacemaker scoring days....It's like Zimmmer threw Tom his old stuff and says "When you reach a million dollar blockbuster status, THEN will I graduate you to my new toys. Until then, work with this."

Damn this score is harsh....

Hybrid Soldier2015-05-13 08:26:44
There's zero sound of HZ in this score. Zero, nada, nothing. It's all Junkie's craft, his samples, his instruments. And don't fool yourself because you heard them in Man Of Steel... lol

And Hans didn't have any say whatsoever with Mad Max... He was curious like everybody else what Tom would come up with.

mpolonest1232015-05-13 17:02:05
It seems likes Tom's synth writing has its roots based in the 80's. Especially his action material. It works though, especially with something like Divergent.


Samuel reply Replies: 12 || 2015-05-12 05:01:01
I don't know if it is only me or what but I've sensed that since junkie xl is not known by many or he is just that many believe that his soundtracks are messy is the reason why this soundtrack isn't getting either the attention or buzz that it should be getting.

Anonymous2015-05-12 05:14:48
Incorrect and incorrect....

Samuel2015-05-12 05:39:55
Trust me, I am nuts about hearing it, I want it so much, but it gets a different interest than a Hans soundtrack.. Probably its only me haha

Samuel2015-05-12 05:41:48
To me, tom holkenborg is an amazing apprentice of Hans and deserves so much credit. I've liked all of his soundtracks and that means a lot

Edmund Meinerts2015-05-12 09:23:31
Isn't getting attention or buzz? Are you not reading all the "I want it so much omg please let it leak now" comments here? Meanwhile, Lorne Balfe's very enjoyable score for Home comes and goes with barely anyone batting a lash...Harry Gregson-Williams puts out a documentary score and it gets like two comments. No buzz my foot!

Warwick2015-05-12 15:25:51
People only buzz at scores these days when it has loaaaaaaaaaadz of percussion, synth and sound design.

Actual orchestra and melodies is soooooo 2005.

Sarcasm aside, I agree with you totally

0-cool2015-05-12 19:28:56
No. The only scores that get buzz are the ones for big, hyped movies. It only depends on the movies, nothing else

Hybrid Soldier2015-05-12 19:38:03
I completely agree... :)

...2015-05-12 19:43:35
It also has a little bit to do with the composer;) If there's a new Hans score people are understandably extra hyped, no matter the size of the movie!

Hybrid Soldier2015-05-12 19:45:03
Did you see any hype for Casi Divas or The Burning Plain ? Do you think there'll be any for Freeheld ?

Lambegue2015-05-12 20:10:41
There isn't even that much for "Woman in Gold", or "Le petit Prince"... But most of the time, I have the feeling that Zimmer himself is very discreet about this works. Hybrid, correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't Hans Zimmer talk more about them, in order to make those scores more popular ?

As far as "Mad Max Fury Road" is concerned...at the first listening, I'm very far from impressed, I'll give it some more chances but I suppose that Holkenborg's style is just not for me...

Hybrid Soldier2015-05-12 20:12:24
I've been fighting with Hans for that for years, but he won't change him... lol

...2015-05-12 21:50:07
You're probably right. I'm however very hyped for Woman in Gold and Freeheld, just as I was about Mr. Morgan's last love (which sadly didn't get a release).

I really like Hans' smaller scores!

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-12 18:31:58
You can definitely hear some Joker influences in a couple of tracks. Especially "the bog"

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-12 14:53:19
"Brothers in Arms" had me completely hyped about this score... Sadly the rest doesn't live up to it in my opinion. But let's wait to see how it works on picture.

I see Hybrid Soldier is very good at picking up the best tracks of a score :-D

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