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So first impressions:<br><br>JP knocked this one out of the park! The whole score has this excellent swashbuckling vibe, which is surprisingly aggressive during the action sequences (entirely due to his trademark percussion).<br><br>The writing style is really interesting, it’s basically John Powell doing his usual style but with some Williams flourishes, especially during the softer cues. The Star Wars themes do return, but not as heavily as Rogue One. And of course the JW cue is great, although surprisingly structured more as an action cue as opposed to a concert suite.<br><br>And for some reason the Han theme sounds vaguely similar to Poe’s theme from Force Awakens.Let’s just say “Reminiscience Therapy”.... hold onto your seats! ;-)This score is awesome!! Powell did a great job at making a score that's differet than all the other SW scores, but still you know it's a SW score. He reprised Williams' theme brilliantly and I can't stop to listen to it!!!what about the music when batman makes it back to the cave and lex opens the case of kryptonite. cant find it in theseYeah I can't agree that Inception or Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring. Certainly not in structure, thematic development, etc. <br><br>What defined those scores is the vision behind them more so than the execution. In so many ways, that is opposite of The World's End. Interstellar is a brilliant score that managed to provide each scene with a simplistic tone, but one that captured the atmosphere behind the scenes perfectly, such as the unique use of the organ. Same with Inception with the guitars. <br><br>With a World's End, the vision is nothing special. It is a rock and roll twist to classic music. But the execution brings enormous power and gravitas to the movie.<br><br>I would sum it up by saying that in Interstellar and Inception, the creation of the music drives the movie's ideas while in At World's End, the movie drives the creation of the music.
Nazg&#251;l for Azog I will never forgive. It's not a Servant of Sauron theme, it's a Ringwraith theme, and Azog's not a Ringwraith, he's a goddam Orc, and that theme doesn't belong there, full stop. It was just put there because it sounds "epic" and would "pump up the action scene". Gondor Restored at the end is just as stupid. And the Dreaming of Bag End theme for Bilbo is indeed lovely, and would have been lovelier still if it actually appeared in the movie. Instead it just gets replaced by copy/pasted Hobbit music from LOTR instead because Peter Jackson desperately wants his audience to remember how good those movies were in lieu of the Hobbit ones being any good on their own. Needless to say it goes missing entirely from the second and third score...along with the Misty Mountains melody (the strongest theme of the first one). I still really like those scores overall but they got absolutely butchered in terms of their thematic usage in the films. Then again those movies were an absolute clusterfuck so I shouldn't be surprised.<br><br>WRT Harry Potter, the 3 note theme does work okay for Voldemort, except that there's already a longer, separate Voldemort theme in Philosopher's, one that I like even more, and which only gets used once in Chamber (when Riddle rearranges the letters). I can understand liking Chamber better than Philosopher when you compare the albums, but in terms of the complete scores there's no contest at all, Philosopher wins by a country mile because of Chamber's rehash issues (and there are some good cues missing from the album, such as the Troll and Forbidden Forest scenes).@Edmund<br>The thing with the Nolan scores (at least Interstellar/Inception) is that they are repetitive, in as much as being built heavily around the suites that I’m guessing they use to edit and temp the film. <br>And while the themes are simple I do think they are structured in a unique enough way which builds emotional resonance through the gradual increase in chords/volume/speed/etc. Even Dunkirk is a relatively simple score theme wise, but is so technically complex.<br><br>And personally I’ve never been in love with Inception. I admire it on a technical level, but outside of “Time” I find it to be a fairly cold score. Obviously what it was meant to do so not a complaint, more of a personal preference thing.You know, I actually like Chamber of Secrets much more than Philosopher's Stone. It has the best moments from that score with improved themes. (I actually like the 3 note motif for Voldemort better than it being used for the stone, it already sounded like the Sith theme from Star Wars so might as well go all the way with it.) It felt more tight, better paced, and had an overall more energetic feel to it.<br><br>The Hobbit, I'm not entirely sure where you're getting heartbreaking from. If you mean the state of its release I absolutely agree, if you're talking about its reprisals the only one I had any issue with was the Return of the King/Gondor Restored theme which had nothing to do with Thorin and Bilbo's relationship. <br><br>The Nazghul theme being used for Azog I thought was fine as he was a servant of Sauron in the movies, History of the Ring and Gollum's themes were used effectively, and the new thematic material for the first film, I thought was wonderful. The themes A Baggins of Bag-End and The Lonely Mountain song being used as a Fellowship type of theme are the greatest highlights for me.See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/
I'm trying to be objective* (sorry haha)@Anonymous Zimmer's best? Well... I'm trying to be subjective:<br>IMO The Thin Red Line remains the pinnacle of Hans' career from an artistic point of view. It's a turning point, though we've been used to this kind of writing since (so many scores have copied TTRL).<br><br>Inception and (especially) Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring as well. Their level of complexity is unmatched in Zimmer's discography.<br>Gladiator is another impressive score, as it combines some of the best action music, best drama and deepest emotions Hans has ever composed for a movie.<br><br>Seems like I'm quite objective here, as none of my favorites scores are on this list ! ;)Interesting you mention William Ross' role in Chamber of Secrets because I've never fully understood what his exact involvement was. Was he just an additional music composer? Or did he actually compose most of the score with John Williams only writing the suites? Just curious if you know.I mean, the thematic situation *is* a bit messy. You've got new themes by Powell, one new Williams theme adapted by Powell, and then existing Star Wars themes adapted by Powell. I agree the credits are a bit long-winded but I can't think of a more concise way to convey all that information.<br><br>What does bother me (and maybe this is my inner fanboy talking) is that it seems to downplay Powell's role a bit, listing him second and with the use of the word "adapted" which makes him feel a bit second fiddle. Remember how William Ross "adapted" Williams' music for Chamber of Secrets, by which was meant largely copying and pasting bits from Sorcerer's Stone? I have no doubt that Powell has done a far, far more substantial job here (and they do say "composed and adapted", to be fair). Then again, it's a Star Wars score, and of course they're going to put Williams' name front and center as much as possible no matter what.<br><br>This is all such nitpicking of the highest order :pHans for Star Wars ?<br><br><br>Never.<br><br><br>Ron probably asked him first and Hans probably was like "JOHN POWELL !!"
What would have happened if Ron Howard would have been the first choice to direct Solo? He would have chosen James Horner (if he wasn't dead) or try to convince Hans Zimmer to do the music. The only collaboration between Howard and maestro Williams was in the movie Far And Away.Poster in SpainA Star Wars score that sounds like a Powell score? I'm in.<br><br>From what I've heard of many people, the score is really great and apart from the Williams theme, I heard Powell also had a lot of great themes.<br><br>I cannot wait for it!Your source?Just saw the film, really fun and faced paced movie. The score is great, it has a solid main theme by John Williams (not as great as Rey theme though) but still memorable and john powell adapts this main theme in various variations throughout the film. Star Wars fan might be dissapointed by the score because this overall sounds like a typical Powell score which doesn’t really sound like a typical Star Wars movie. Still fans of Powell will love this new score.
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Exodus - Gods And Kings
Label: Sony Masterworks
Length: 78'24
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  1. Opening + War Room (2:39)
    Alberto Iglesias
  2. Leaving Memphis (2:03)
    Alberto Iglesias
  3. Hittite Battle (4:16)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  4. Returning To Memphis (2:37)
    Alberto Iglesias
  5. Moses In Pythom (1:50)
    Alberto Iglesias
  6. Nun's Story (2:18)
    Alberto Iglesias
  7. The Coronation (2:28)
    Federico Jusid
  8. Ramses Retaliates (0:53)
    Federico Jusid
  9. Arm Chop (1:58)
    Alberto Iglesias
  10. Goodbyes (2:41)
    Alberto Iglesias
  11. Journey To The Village (2:14)
    Alberto Iglesias
  12. The Vows (2:24)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  13. Alone In The Desert (1:36)
    Alberto Iglesias
  14. Climbing Mount Sinai (2:17)
    Alberto Iglesias
  15. I Need A General (3:22)
    Alberto Iglesias
  16. Exodus (2:52)
    Alberto Iglesias
  17. Ramses' Orders (2:44)
    Federico Jusid
  18. Moses & Nun (1:48)
    Alberto Iglesias
  19. Moses' Camp (2:42)
    Alberto Iglesias, Federico Jusid
  20. Ramses' Insomnia (2:58)
    Alberto Iglesias
  21. Hail (2:01)
    Alberto Iglesias
  22. Animal Deaths (2:39)
    Alberto Iglesias
  23. Looting (1:19)
    Alberto Iglesias, Federico Jusid
  24. Ramses' Own Plague (2:05)
    Alberto Iglesias
  25. Lamb's Blood (1:39)
    Federico Jusid
  26. We Cross The Mountains (2:51)
    Alberto Iglesias
  27. Into The Water (4:00)
    Alberto Iglesias, Federico Jusid
  28. The Chariots (1:52)
    Federico Jusid
  29. The Hebrews (0:58)
    Alberto Iglesias
  30. Tsunami (5:33)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  31. Sword Into Water (1:12)
    Alberto Iglesias
  32. The Ten Commandments (3:37)
    Alberto Iglesias
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Evan reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-14 21:24:50
Exodus is a wonderful score. but everytime I listen to it, I feel like the soundtrack is missing a lot of important cues. The main theme for Moses is incredible but for some reason most of the tracks that contained it were omitted from the soundtrack release. So frustrating when a composer does this.when I saw the film the main theme is obvious and is used quite frequently, but when listening to the soundtrack you could easily walk away not hearing a single theme. I guess I'll be waiting around for an "unofficial" release.

JamesT reply Replies: 20 || 2015-01-12 18:06:10
Any word on the score release for Blackhat?


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 19:03:57
It won't be released.


Justin Bieber2015-01-12 19:24:39
Why?


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 19:33:20
Harry said it wouldn't... I'm not in either Michael Mann's head, HGW's head or Atticus Ross' head... I take the info as it is... lol


JamesT2015-01-12 19:38:15
That's INCREDIBLY disappointing.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 19:40:48
Well the score was a mess HGW wrote 80 min but only partly used...


Medigo2015-01-12 20:03:46
reminds of of James Newton Howards score for Collateral


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 20:06:42
And Harry just posted on Facebook :

"Dear all,

I would like it to be known for what it’s worth that the ‘score’ for Blackhat maybe credited to me, but contains almost none of my compositions. I attended the premiere of the movie at the end of last week and discovered, to my horror, music that shocked and surprised me…quasi emotional (synth) string pieces that I’d never heard in my life before. I knew of at least one other composer, a good one at that(!), that had put in months of work on this movie just as I had, but this appeared to me to be in addition to both our contributions. To be honest, I’m not sure, as I’m having a hard time understanding what I heard and why it was there and I can say nothing for certain except that I was not the author of most of what is now in the movie. I feel like I want to point this out for anyone who like me cares about these things, as my name is right there listed as the lead composer and one would expect that credit to mean something, but it doesn’t. And I do care about that.

I therefore reluctantly join the long list of composers who have had their scores either sliced and diced mercilessly or ignored completely by Michael Mann. This is his film and these are his decisions and I do respect that, but see no reason to have people mistake this score for one that I composed, or in any way approved of musically. The 90 minutes of score that I did write and deliver is, as I’ve said, mostly unused.
I would still encourage you to check out his movie, as you may enjoy it.

Harry"


Dudu2015-01-12 20:12:32
AFAIK, this is the first time a composer publicly says that the music heard in the movie is not his...sh** just got real.
Hybrid do you have any other examples??


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 20:18:58
Klaus Badelt should, one day, about POTC 1... lol

Hans admits it for stuff like Invincible for instance.

Well no I have no other examples in my head right now...


Ds2015-01-12 20:34:13
I feel sorry for Harry... But more interestingly, he seems to imply he didn't collaborate at all with Atticus Ross. I don't know why a director would ask 2 composers to work on his movie separate from each other. I mean, did they work on picture? Did Mann divide his movie into two parts? Or did he ask them both to compose the whole thing, for him to select the best cues from both? Seems weird to me.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 20:40:32
They both wrote a full score I think...


Well it's Mann... He had JNH replaced by a lot of Pinto & stuff... He had John Murphy replaced with Klaus Badelt... Etc...


Edmund Meinerts2015-01-12 21:30:08
I just came here to post Harry's Facebook comment, not surprised people are already talking about it though. Poor Harry...having to work with both Ridley Scott and Michael Mann in one year, the only person left from the trifecta of miserable directors for composers to work with is Paul Greengrass!


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 21:34:37
With all of RCP blocking its doors to Paul Greengrass, I think Harry has a shot there !!! lol


Ds2015-01-12 22:04:19
With the return of Damon & Greengrass to the Bourne franchise, I'm really wondering what they're going to do with the music. I think it's out of question for Powell, from what I heard I doubt Jackman will do it, or anyone from RCP... Well, maybe Hans will once again be too kind and accept the job... It would be hilarious :p

Maybe they'll ask JNH, he's capable of RCP-like writing (even if his electronic scores are often dull).


Edmund Meinerts2015-01-12 22:56:22
JNH's Bourne Legacy was a total snoozer. His Salt was an OK Bourne-like score, though...as long as it's more like the latter than the former, I'd be all right with him on board.


trent easton navarro2015-01-13 14:42:38
@Ds This is basically standard with Michael Mann, he usually goes through several composers on any film. See the examples Hybrid gave. And also on The Insider he used Graeme Revell and Lisa Gerrard.

Seems on this one he first hired Ross, then Harry, after that Ryan Amon and finally Mike Dean, a keyboardist and producer for Kayne West


Lambegue2015-01-13 17:42:21
I really don't understand that some composers replace score by other quite random stuff like that...Don't they have any respect for their composers ?
I don't mind for a score to be totally or partly made of pre-existing material if it is thought to be like this right from the beginning : I can also understand that a director sometimes want to replace a composer by another if he is not happy with the direction taken, but this, hiring guys here and there without letting any of them know what the other did, and taking bits and pieces from each of them (and sometimes from other things too) is very disrespectful, and most of the time not really good for the quality of the score...


Dudu2015-01-14 10:37:19
Harry deleted the post from his page...and at least, Mann isn ´t even hiding his treatment of music!
"I worked with a number of composers on this one because I wanted different things from different people. It’s like casting actors. The film is an adventure of a narrative, and the story changes radically about three times, so there are very different conditions emotionally. That changes the music. So Atticus Ross does one thing, Harry Gregson-Williams does another thing, Ryan Amon does another thing, and then Mike Dean does something else. Mike Dean is Kanye West’s keyboardist and producer—a very talented guy."


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-14 12:23:05
People are misinterpreting Harry's message I think.

He isn't criticizing Mann much or searching for pity, he knows the rules...

He was just pissed to be still credited composer when the film actually has almost none of his music... That's all... lol


JG2015-01-21 05:06:50
Can anyone here comment on a proper chronological order for this album presentation? Just a quick look at the titles, clearly these are out of order! I almost always prefer the proper film order, so curious if anyone has already compiled such a list? Thanks!

Justin Bieber reply Replies: 0 || 2015-01-14 06:22:38
Speaking of unreleased work and over-credit of Harry Gregson-Williams. Another example is Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes.

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2014-11-25 00:25:02
It's a good score.
Listening some cues from Federico Jusid, and they are really amazing. And the fact is that Federico Jusid was rejected from 300 Sequel. So do you think the score would have been different from Junkie XL.
Harry's work, impressing as always, with the additional music.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 8 || 2014-11-20 19:41:51
Details & extract... :)


Anonymous2014-11-20 20:55:19
Sounds great. I hope the whole score has choir like this :)


Lambegue2014-11-20 22:19:08
Have you heard all of it, Hybrid ? My main fear for this one is a lack of unity between Iglesias' (and Jusid's) cues and Gregson-Williams' ones, as I understood they didn't work together...


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-20 23:01:28
It's a nice score, good moments.

But it's not a GREAT score in any way... :/


Ds2014-11-20 23:05:09
Oh shit... it looks like a huge epic movie, the kind of which deserves a great, memorable and moving score. Ridley needs to re-team up with Hans!


Anonymous2014-11-21 06:28:30
Samples sound wonderful to me.

I am getting a strong HGW vibe from most of it actually (at times a little bit of Mychael Danna's Nativity Story too). Makes me wonder if HGW had more hands on the music than what's made public.


Nonore2014-11-21 19:26:02
Where can we find some other samples of the soundtrack ?


Anonymous2014-11-24 15:45:33
Time to talk about something else than interstellar.

Just listened to the full thing (soundcloud). Harry his tracks are cool


Ds2014-11-24 17:54:46
Listened to the first 3 tracks only, and I love it!! Much better than I expected.

theeaglesfan005 reply Replies: 5 || 2014-11-10 22:22:34
What's the length?


Edmund Meinerts2014-11-11 10:18:37
That's what she said.


Zimson2014-11-13 00:21:31
The CD cover? That would be 4,7 inch. :/


Dr. Sheldon Cooper2014-11-14 04:56:41
By the word "length", (s)he could have meant :--
(a) The diameter of the disc, which is 12 cm;
(b) The diameter of the spindle hole, which is 1.5 cm;
(c) The wavelength of the reader, which is 780 nm;
(d) The length of the thread, which is approximately 700 MB, i.e. 5,898,240,000 little pits on the aluminium foil -- (I know, OMG right?);
(e) The duration of the audio data, which is highly variable depending on amount of memory used, bit depth & sample rate, etc.


Everan2014-11-14 05:31:00
What is the runtime of this album? It's it over 40 minutes, 60 minutes or more?


fx2014-11-21 00:37:37
Hopefully Zimmer won't do them again.

Adam reply Replies: 2 || 2014-11-13 02:07:48
That front cover is downright atrocious!!


NM2014-11-13 02:24:14
Looking forward to hearing Harry's score!


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-13 08:57:52
Harry's part of the score, you mean.


And yes the cover is terrible !

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2014-11-03 22:08:41
Honestly I'm adding this but I have no idea if the CD will contain any of HGW's material... lol


Scorefan2014-11-03 22:14:40
Maybe, just like Prometheus


Washu2014-11-10 21:17:42
Apparently these three cues on the score is his:

3. Hittite Battle
12. The Wows
30. Tsunami



Hybrid Soldier2014-11-10 22:29:05
How do you know that Washu ? :)


Ds2014-11-10 23:46:13
If this turns out to be true, it means that HGW was absolutely needed to bring some epicness :p

I feel kind of sorry for Alberto Iglesias...


Washu2014-11-11 00:15:06
He wrote it on his Facebook fan page.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-11 00:16:54
Oh yes indeed I wasn't paying attention ! :)

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