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@Bob<br><br>Thank you for the enlightment, I will consider opening my wrists for misconduct in the next few days, thank you very much... :o<br><br><br><br>Ok seriously though, you guys should know that if there's one guy that could not care less about awards... it's Hans... :)I am really enjoying his season of the Crown.a big balfe influence in this season with hints of Churchil and Genius I think. Really excellent music/ it's me@ds "Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity."<br> <br>I think the same for Jablonsky, Zanelli, XL, Jackman and Mancina.@macejko<br><br>"All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him"<br><br>You said in another comment that you never read an interview with Powell, so not reason you take that kind of conclusion of your character.<br><br>"The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ."<br>Powell is a clearly talented composer. He suffered criticism at the beginning of his career by sounding like Zimmer, but soon showed substance. And much more than that created an identifiable style, which today is reference to other scores of modern animations (which may be good or bad to depend on of the point of view).<br>Today he is an established composer and it is common for these composers to move away for a few years or even close their careers without many explanations for the public. In recent years we watched the estrangement of Silvestri, Horner, Williams and in the past we saw Faltemeyer, Bill Conti and Brad Fiedel drop their careers when they were at the top of the game.<br><br>" Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better"<br><br>As they said in another comment, you're compared to newbies and veterans. Balfe's having the opportunity of his life now. Take it or leave it. There's no choice. Powell, as well as Zimmer others, on the other hand, is a "senior member" of the club. He can afford to go away for a few years to resolve comprehensible personal problems without affecting the hard work he has developed in the last 20 years. Will Balfe continue to be so creative in 10 or 15 years?<br><br>@ds<br><br>"<br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres"<br><br>That's funny, but it's fair. Powell Is a good composer. Not the best, far from it. Your style really narrows your work down, but we can say that from all the composers out there. So it's not a problem.The problem is he wants to limit his work to animations and fantasy.because he abhors gratuitous violence.<br><br>@george<br><br>". Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion"<br><br>Zimmer's at the end of his career. All the other composers when they arrived at 60 years (with the exception of JNH, Goldsmith and Morricone) reduced the amount of projects per year and went on to choose their work best. It's a natural way.Over the years, it tends to get worse with one exception here and there. Don't keep expectations like he's in his prime<br><br>"he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead."<br><br><br>Powell will work with a little more frequently in the coming years (or not) that only depends on his ambitions. However, frankly, he's never going to do three again. 4.5. 6 projects in a year. It takes a lot of motivation for that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Just listened to the whole thing, kind of a let down. Nothing interessting except for some action moments. Donít even recall hearing some sort of theme. Overall it was like listening to Cars 4: Spanish World Cup.I have already listened to The Jumanji Overture and I must say it sounds really great. Let's see how the rest of the score sounds.Tracklist with track duration:<br>01. The Jumanji Overture (03:20)<br>02. Digging Up The Past (01:43)<br>03. Brantfort High (01:09)<br>04. Into The Jungle (01:23)<br>05. Out of Character (02:31)<br>06. The Legend of the Jewel (02:23)<br>07. The Adventure Begins (01:40)<br>08. Special Abilities (01:16)<br>09. The Bikers (03:44)<br>10. Van Pelt (01:00)<br>11. A Test Of Friendship (01:22)<br>12. The Bazaar (01:16)<br>13. Snake Charmer (03:41)<br>14. The Power of Bravestone (01:04)<br>15. Seaplane McDonough (02:17)<br>16. The Missing Piece (01:46)<br>17. Lost In Time (01:18)<br>18. Flirting With Danger (01:36)<br>19. Albino Rhinos (03:44)<br>20. Retrieving the Emerald (01:54)<br>21. Out of Lives (01:49)<br>22. First Kiss (01:22)<br>23. The Jaguars (03:03)<br>24. Ring of Fire (02:07)<br>25. Begin The Climb (01:56)<br>26. Call Out Its Name (02:23)<br>27. leaving Jumanji (03:03)<br>28. An Older Friend (02:40)<br>29. Back To School (01:53)@ds the same for desplat's victory with Budapest Hotel.Maybe. I'd sure be happy for you lot ;) And I'd definitely rather see Powell attached to a project than, say, RGW, Junkie or Desplat. <br><br>That Solo movie is going to be a disaster, though.
One more thing: if indeed the reason for Powell's semi-hiatus was to be with his family as much as possible, we may well see his activity increase again in coming years now that his wife has passed away and his son is close to graduating high school (I couldn't find an exact date of birth for him but I think he's 16 or 17). Him taking on a project as big and ambitious as Star Wars isn't exactly the sign of someone who wants to take it easy. It's too early to say yet though.hans should win the oscar for best sound effects and not for the best music/score. just as a statement.And it's also unfair to use Balfe to criticize Powell. He started working on American projects in 2005 with Batman Begins, and only after 2010 did he receive individual projects. Is it accurate to compare someone who entered the party at the last minute with two others who are in it for 20 (Powell) and 30 (Zimmer)?<br><br>I'm in a hurry and I put everything into a translator. Forgive the many mistakes.<br> <br><br><br>Composers do not need to worry about the attention, acceptance of the public of the same or the same intensity as pop music artists do. There's no need to do that. Occasionally some name draws attention to the public and causes many people to be in the genre, Williams and Zimmer are the main examples that I can bring the table. However it is not because Williams or Zimmer are extremely popular and perhaps worry about the material they are offering to the public who adores them that all the composers of the world need to do equal. Most of these men and women even enxeega as "celebrity". They are more like artisans or the rest of the crew of a film that occupies with the lights, effects and costumes and that will never have the same response from the public as the main actor. And they don't even expect it. So I think it's foolish to wait for Powell to occupy himself in 2,3 movies a year to please a fanbase.<br><br>I'll agree with you when it says it's deplorable to see CPR composers who talk so much about building a single voice and giving emerging talent the opportunity to use so many additional composers (many of them with a possible promise that in the future they will work with Zimmer and thus have the opportunity to show his face in Hollywood.The sense is almost always these.You start with a secondary composer, he arrives at Zimmer and gains some kind of notoriety). But Powell is not the only one who does this. So he should not be the only one criticized.Well...it's a film score. It has no obligation to provide a pleasant or enjoyable listening experience, and for an award like this that doesn't really come into consideration. So if it works in the film, it did its job and that's all that matters.<br><br>For me personally, as someone who cares about music first and films second, a score like Dunkirk has little value. A few years ago I probably would have been pretty mad about this score winning awards and acclaim (you should have seen how salty I got when The Social Network beat out HTTYD), but these days... *shrug*. I know what I like, Dunkirk isn't it, and that's fine. It wasn't written for me. Do I wish Hans still wrote the kind of music I like? Of course. But he gets to make his own choices as an artist, just as I get to choose what to listen to as a fan.
The score is already on itunes.This score... so many mixed emotions. Does it work for the film? Heck yeah. Does it improve the film? So much so. Did Hans do what he set out to do? Totally. Is it an award winning masterpiece? Um, not so fast.<br><br>Dunkirk, while super effective within the context of the film (I wouldnít change a thing about it), I must admit, it doesnít have nearly the same effect as a stand-alone listen. Itís literally the same textures and notes over and over again, just slightly rising and falling in pitch and tempo. Does that make it ďawardĒ worthy? Iím not sure. If based solely on the film, you betcha. If based purely on the music itself, I donít think so. Thatís where Interstellar succeeds so far and away over Dunkirk. As a pure listening experience, Interstellar is interesting, multi-layered and emotional. Whereas Dunkirk is just flat, void of any sort of feeling or ďactualĒ music (again, works IN the film). Itís glorified sound FX (save for the end, which, no doubt, is in large part to Ben).<br><br>Hmm... Iíve never had a score tear me apart more than this one. I both love it and hate it. Maybe it did itís job... lol.<br><br>Excuse me while I go listen to No Time for Caution yet again.I think most of us agree that he should've won for Interstellar but I think Dunkirk deserves it too. The work Hans and the music department did on this movie is just incredible. Must've been a lot of hard work. <br>An award is an award, Hans' 2nd Oscar is long overdue so I'd be glad to see him win. But it would be weird to see him win for THAT score, after all the greatnesses of the past 20 years. Same thing with Morricone who won his only Oscar for his very light and insignificant work on Hateful Eight. Good for the man, good for the fans, but doesn't really make sense. But have Oscars ever made sense? :-phaha hybrid :D made my day
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Exodus - Gods And Kings
Label: Sony Masterworks
Length: 78'24
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  1. Opening + War Room (2:39)
    Alberto Iglesias
  2. Leaving Memphis (2:03)
    Alberto Iglesias
  3. Hittite Battle (4:16)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  4. Returning To Memphis (2:37)
    Alberto Iglesias
  5. Moses In Pythom (1:50)
    Alberto Iglesias
  6. Nun's Story (2:18)
    Alberto Iglesias
  7. The Coronation (2:28)
    Federico Jusid
  8. Ramses Retaliates (0:53)
    Federico Jusid
  9. Arm Chop (1:58)
    Alberto Iglesias
  10. Goodbyes (2:41)
    Alberto Iglesias
  11. Journey To The Village (2:14)
    Alberto Iglesias
  12. The Vows (2:24)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  13. Alone In The Desert (1:36)
    Alberto Iglesias
  14. Climbing Mount Sinai (2:17)
    Alberto Iglesias
  15. I Need A General (3:22)
    Alberto Iglesias
  16. Exodus (2:52)
    Alberto Iglesias
  17. Ramses' Orders (2:44)
    Federico Jusid
  18. Moses & Nun (1:48)
    Alberto Iglesias
  19. Moses' Camp (2:42)
    Alberto Iglesias, Federico Jusid
  20. Ramses' Insomnia (2:58)
    Alberto Iglesias
  21. Hail (2:01)
    Alberto Iglesias
  22. Animal Deaths (2:39)
    Alberto Iglesias
  23. Looting (1:19)
    Alberto Iglesias, Federico Jusid
  24. Ramses' Own Plague (2:05)
    Alberto Iglesias
  25. Lamb's Blood (1:39)
    Federico Jusid
  26. We Cross The Mountains (2:51)
    Alberto Iglesias
  27. Into The Water (4:00)
    Alberto Iglesias, Federico Jusid
  28. The Chariots (1:52)
    Federico Jusid
  29. The Hebrews (0:58)
    Alberto Iglesias
  30. Tsunami (5:33)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  31. Sword Into Water (1:12)
    Alberto Iglesias
  32. The Ten Commandments (3:37)
    Alberto Iglesias
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Evan reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-14 21:24:50
Exodus is a wonderful score. but everytime I listen to it, I feel like the soundtrack is missing a lot of important cues. The main theme for Moses is incredible but for some reason most of the tracks that contained it were omitted from the soundtrack release. So frustrating when a composer does this.when I saw the film the main theme is obvious and is used quite frequently, but when listening to the soundtrack you could easily walk away not hearing a single theme. I guess I'll be waiting around for an "unofficial" release.

JamesT reply Replies: 20 || 2015-01-12 18:06:10
Any word on the score release for Blackhat?


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 19:03:57
It won't be released.


Justin Bieber2015-01-12 19:24:39
Why?


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 19:33:20
Harry said it wouldn't... I'm not in either Michael Mann's head, HGW's head or Atticus Ross' head... I take the info as it is... lol


JamesT2015-01-12 19:38:15
That's INCREDIBLY disappointing.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 19:40:48
Well the score was a mess HGW wrote 80 min but only partly used...


Medigo2015-01-12 20:03:46
reminds of of James Newton Howards score for Collateral


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 20:06:42
And Harry just posted on Facebook :

"Dear all,

I would like it to be known for what itís worth that the Ďscoreí for Blackhat maybe credited to me, but contains almost none of my compositions. I attended the premiere of the movie at the end of last week and discovered, to my horror, music that shocked and surprised meÖquasi emotional (synth) string pieces that Iíd never heard in my life before. I knew of at least one other composer, a good one at that(!), that had put in months of work on this movie just as I had, but this appeared to me to be in addition to both our contributions. To be honest, Iím not sure, as Iím having a hard time understanding what I heard and why it was there and I can say nothing for certain except that I was not the author of most of what is now in the movie. I feel like I want to point this out for anyone who like me cares about these things, as my name is right there listed as the lead composer and one would expect that credit to mean something, but it doesnít. And I do care about that.

I therefore reluctantly join the long list of composers who have had their scores either sliced and diced mercilessly or ignored completely by Michael Mann. This is his film and these are his decisions and I do respect that, but see no reason to have people mistake this score for one that I composed, or in any way approved of musically. The 90 minutes of score that I did write and deliver is, as Iíve said, mostly unused.
I would still encourage you to check out his movie, as you may enjoy it.

Harry"


Dudu2015-01-12 20:12:32
AFAIK, this is the first time a composer publicly says that the music heard in the movie is not his...sh** just got real.
Hybrid do you have any other examples??


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 20:18:58
Klaus Badelt should, one day, about POTC 1... lol

Hans admits it for stuff like Invincible for instance.

Well no I have no other examples in my head right now...


Ds2015-01-12 20:34:13
I feel sorry for Harry... But more interestingly, he seems to imply he didn't collaborate at all with Atticus Ross. I don't know why a director would ask 2 composers to work on his movie separate from each other. I mean, did they work on picture? Did Mann divide his movie into two parts? Or did he ask them both to compose the whole thing, for him to select the best cues from both? Seems weird to me.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 20:40:32
They both wrote a full score I think...


Well it's Mann... He had JNH replaced by a lot of Pinto & stuff... He had John Murphy replaced with Klaus Badelt... Etc...


Edmund Meinerts2015-01-12 21:30:08
I just came here to post Harry's Facebook comment, not surprised people are already talking about it though. Poor Harry...having to work with both Ridley Scott and Michael Mann in one year, the only person left from the trifecta of miserable directors for composers to work with is Paul Greengrass!


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-12 21:34:37
With all of RCP blocking its doors to Paul Greengrass, I think Harry has a shot there !!! lol


Ds2015-01-12 22:04:19
With the return of Damon & Greengrass to the Bourne franchise, I'm really wondering what they're going to do with the music. I think it's out of question for Powell, from what I heard I doubt Jackman will do it, or anyone from RCP... Well, maybe Hans will once again be too kind and accept the job... It would be hilarious :p

Maybe they'll ask JNH, he's capable of RCP-like writing (even if his electronic scores are often dull).


Edmund Meinerts2015-01-12 22:56:22
JNH's Bourne Legacy was a total snoozer. His Salt was an OK Bourne-like score, though...as long as it's more like the latter than the former, I'd be all right with him on board.


trent easton navarro2015-01-13 14:42:38
@Ds This is basically standard with Michael Mann, he usually goes through several composers on any film. See the examples Hybrid gave. And also on The Insider he used Graeme Revell and Lisa Gerrard.

Seems on this one he first hired Ross, then Harry, after that Ryan Amon and finally Mike Dean, a keyboardist and producer for Kayne West


Lambegue2015-01-13 17:42:21
I really don't understand that some composers replace score by other quite random stuff like that...Don't they have any respect for their composers ?
I don't mind for a score to be totally or partly made of pre-existing material if it is thought to be like this right from the beginning : I can also understand that a director sometimes want to replace a composer by another if he is not happy with the direction taken, but this, hiring guys here and there without letting any of them know what the other did, and taking bits and pieces from each of them (and sometimes from other things too) is very disrespectful, and most of the time not really good for the quality of the score...


Dudu2015-01-14 10:37:19
Harry deleted the post from his page...and at least, Mann isn īt even hiding his treatment of music!
"I worked with a number of composers on this one because I wanted different things from different people. Itís like casting actors. The film is an adventure of a narrative, and the story changes radically about three times, so there are very different conditions emotionally. That changes the music. So Atticus Ross does one thing, Harry Gregson-Williams does another thing, Ryan Amon does another thing, and then Mike Dean does something else. Mike Dean is Kanye Westís keyboardist and produceróa very talented guy."


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-14 12:23:05
People are misinterpreting Harry's message I think.

He isn't criticizing Mann much or searching for pity, he knows the rules...

He was just pissed to be still credited composer when the film actually has almost none of his music... That's all... lol


JG2015-01-21 05:06:50
Can anyone here comment on a proper chronological order for this album presentation? Just a quick look at the titles, clearly these are out of order! I almost always prefer the proper film order, so curious if anyone has already compiled such a list? Thanks!

Justin Bieber reply Replies: 0 || 2015-01-14 06:22:38
Speaking of unreleased work and over-credit of Harry Gregson-Williams. Another example is Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes.

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2014-11-25 00:25:02
It's a good score.
Listening some cues from Federico Jusid, and they are really amazing. And the fact is that Federico Jusid was rejected from 300 Sequel. So do you think the score would have been different from Junkie XL.
Harry's work, impressing as always, with the additional music.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 8 || 2014-11-20 19:41:51
Details & extract... :)


Anonymous2014-11-20 20:55:19
Sounds great. I hope the whole score has choir like this :)


Lambegue2014-11-20 22:19:08
Have you heard all of it, Hybrid ? My main fear for this one is a lack of unity between Iglesias' (and Jusid's) cues and Gregson-Williams' ones, as I understood they didn't work together...


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-20 23:01:28
It's a nice score, good moments.

But it's not a GREAT score in any way... :/


Ds2014-11-20 23:05:09
Oh shit... it looks like a huge epic movie, the kind of which deserves a great, memorable and moving score. Ridley needs to re-team up with Hans!


Anonymous2014-11-21 06:28:30
Samples sound wonderful to me.

I am getting a strong HGW vibe from most of it actually (at times a little bit of Mychael Danna's Nativity Story too). Makes me wonder if HGW had more hands on the music than what's made public.


Nonore2014-11-21 19:26:02
Where can we find some other samples of the soundtrack ?


Anonymous2014-11-24 15:45:33
Time to talk about something else than interstellar.

Just listened to the full thing (soundcloud). Harry his tracks are cool


Ds2014-11-24 17:54:46
Listened to the first 3 tracks only, and I love it!! Much better than I expected.

theeaglesfan005 reply Replies: 5 || 2014-11-10 22:22:34
What's the length?


Edmund Meinerts2014-11-11 10:18:37
That's what she said.


Zimson2014-11-13 00:21:31
The CD cover? That would be 4,7 inch. :/


Dr. Sheldon Cooper2014-11-14 04:56:41
By the word "length", (s)he could have meant :--
(a) The diameter of the disc, which is 12 cm;
(b) The diameter of the spindle hole, which is 1.5 cm;
(c) The wavelength of the reader, which is 780 nm;
(d) The length of the thread, which is approximately 700 MB, i.e. 5,898,240,000 little pits on the aluminium foil -- (I know, OMG right?);
(e) The duration of the audio data, which is highly variable depending on amount of memory used, bit depth & sample rate, etc.


Everan2014-11-14 05:31:00
What is the runtime of this album? It's it over 40 minutes, 60 minutes or more?


fx2014-11-21 00:37:37
Hopefully Zimmer won't do them again.

Adam reply Replies: 2 || 2014-11-13 02:07:48
That front cover is downright atrocious!!


NM2014-11-13 02:24:14
Looking forward to hearing Harry's score!


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-13 08:57:52
Harry's part of the score, you mean.


And yes the cover is terrible !

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2014-11-03 22:08:41
Honestly I'm adding this but I have no idea if the CD will contain any of HGW's material... lol


Scorefan2014-11-03 22:14:40
Maybe, just like Prometheus


Washu2014-11-10 21:17:42
Apparently these three cues on the score is his:

3. Hittite Battle
12. The Wows
30. Tsunami



Hybrid Soldier2014-11-10 22:29:05
How do you know that Washu ? :)


Ds2014-11-10 23:46:13
If this turns out to be true, it means that HGW was absolutely needed to bring some epicness :p

I feel kind of sorry for Alberto Iglesias...


Washu2014-11-11 00:15:06
He wrote it on his Facebook fan page.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-11 00:16:54
Oh yes indeed I wasn't paying attention ! :)

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