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Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.
* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's comments
The funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.I wouldnít be surprised if he wrote another long sketchbook for it...I honestly have no idea... But I can't believe back in June when he left he hadn't done a bunch of the score already...The thing is with Jablonsky scores composers rarely get cuesheet credits, so you can't really draw conclusions out of it. Here's a small part of the cuesheet :<br><br>QUINTESSA PT 1<br>QUINTESSA PT 2<br>QUINTESSA PT 3 OPTIMUS REDEMPTION<br>KNIGHTED<br>WE HAVE TO GO ZERO GRAVITY<br><br>OPENING BATTLE<br>MERLIN<br>MERLIN GETS THE STAFF - BATTLE WON<br>TROUBLED TIMES<br>CADE DRIVING - AMULET<br>WE HUNT - DECEPTICONS HUNT<br>KEEP A SECRET - VIV ARRIVES CASTLE FOLGEN<br>WITWICCANS<br>ROUNDTABLE ORGAN SOURCE<br>COGMAN CHOIR<br>STAFF<br>BETTER GET CRACKING<br>PLANETARY VAMPIRISM<br>TOO OLD<br>SUBMARINE<br>TWO MOONS<br>MERLIN'S TOMB<br>SPACE STATION<br>CLAIM THE STAFF<br>SHIP RISE<br>YOUR VOICE<br>SOLDIERS TAKE POSITION - BURTON DIES<br>FALL AND GRAB<br>ENDING
rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves itAny chance of proper artist credits for this score?@Hybrid <br><br>Did Tom actually record anything for the film or did he just do demos?It's the same 24 tracks divided on two CDs. I'm truly hoping for a nice numbered digipak that separates the limited editions from the regular release otherwise it would be quite a crappy move from the record label. <br><br>"Joss said, ĎLetís do it [Batmanís theme] on the nose. Fans love this kind of stuff.í" Why do you have to ruin everything, Joss?
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X-Men - First Class (Complete Score)
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  1. 1944 (0:23)
    Michael Kamen, Henry Jackman
  2. Hot Chocolate (Part 1) (0:28)
    Henry Jackman
  3. Hot Chocolate (Part 2) (1:34)
    Henry Jackman
  4. Nazi Methods (1:18)
    Henry Jackman
  5. Main Title (1:47)
    Henry Jackman
  6. Swiss Search (1:03)
    Henry Jackman
  7. Would You Date Me? (2:23)
    Henry Jackman
  8. The Swiss Banker (1:48)
    Henry Jackman
  9. Non-CIA Issue (0:43)
    Henry Jackman, Noah Sorota
  10. Shaw Instinct (2:18)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  11. Alterting Washington (1:35)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  12. Argentinian Bar (3:15)
    Henry Jackman
  13. You Already Know The Answer (0:39)
    Henry Jackman
  14. Energized Shaw (Part 1) (1:11)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  15. Energized Shaw (Part 2) (0:30)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  16. How's That For A Magic Trick? (0:52)
    Henry Jackman
  17. Mutant Car Park (0:37)
    Henry Jackman
  18. Little Erik Lensherr (1:03)
    Henry Jackman
  19. Shaw Ship Redemption (3:17)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  20. Welcome To Division X (1:10)
    Henry Jackman
  21. You Can Show Off (1:19)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  22. Shaw Helmet (Part 1) (1:09)
    Henry Jackman
  23. Shaw Helmet (Part 2) (0:39)
    Henry Jackman
  24. Take The Blood (1:20)
    Henry Jackman
  25. Stay Out Of My Head - Cerebro (3:57)
    Henry Jackman
  26. They're Recruiting (1:38)
    Henry Jackman
  27. Havoc Slices Statue (Part 1) (0:37)
    Henry Jackman, Noah Sorota
  28. Havoc Slices Statue (Part 2) (0:20)
    Henry Jackman
  29. Mobilize For Russia (Part 1) (0:41)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  30. Mobilize For Russia (Part 2) (1:19)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  31. Mobilize For Russia (Part 3) (1:16)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  32. Shaw Nuff (5:02)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  33. Under Attack (3:30)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  34. Rise Up To Rule (3:33)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  35. 525,600 Mutants (0:28)
    Henry Jackman
  36. One Week (4:07)
    Henry Jackman
  37. Training Montage (5:22)
    Henry Jackman
  38. Between Rage & Serenity (2:10)
    Henry Jackman
  39. Shaw Sub (0:58)
    Henry Jackman
  40. His & Hers Normal Juice (2:18)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  41. Be The Better Men (2:35)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  42. The Real Raven (1:13)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  43. Behold The Beast (1:54)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  44. Two Tribes (2:24)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  45. The Blockade (2:26)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  46. X-Jet (2:24)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  47. Sub Lift (Part 1) (0:35)
    Henry Jackman
  48. Sub Lift (Part 2) (0:30)
    Henry Jackman
  49. Sub Lift (Part 3) (2:19)
    Henry Jackman
  50. Mutant-On-Mutant Action (6:11)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  51. Shaw Splitter (2:59)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  52. Smoky Shaw (2:21)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  53. Missile Launch (0:50)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  54. Just Following Orders (0:47)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
  55. Missile Rebound (1:06)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  56. Charles Shot (1:22)
    Henry Jackman
  57. Mutant & Pround (3:47)
    Henry Jackman
  58. You're X-Men (Part 1) (1:56)
    Henry Jackman
  59. You're X-Men (Part 2) (1:07)
    Henry Jackman
  60. I Prefer Magneto (Main On End) (1:53)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  61. First Class Suite (3:21)
    Henry Jackman
  62. X Theme (Original Demo) (2:22)
    Henry Jackman
  63. Non-CIA Issue (Alternate) (0:44)
    Henry Jackman, Noah Sorota
  64. Behold The Beast (Alternate) (1:56)
    Henry Jackman, Christopher Willis
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2014-11-26 09:16:05
Never noticed there was a page for this...but neither the track titles nor the times match up with mine at all! My version has some hugely lengthy cues towards the end...I assume they're edited together. That's gonna be a bit of a pain...


thejok3rrules2014-11-26 18:16:34
The version you have is the same as mine. It's the isolated scorre, while these are the sessions.

thejok3rrules reply Replies: 1 || 2014-11-26 08:03:30
First; I'm glad you did a page for that.

Second; The expanded score for X-Men: DOFP briefly came out, and it is sooo cool to hear Magneto's theme in it.


thejok3rrules2014-11-26 08:26:57
As written by Jackman, of course.

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