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Hallo,<br><br>Der 'Gladiator' ist schon langsam in die Jahre gekommen, die Musik ist aber nicht šlter geworden. Genial.<br><br>GruŖ  <br><br>Not bad score.<br><br>But I prefer the other oneIsnít that ironic that DC is abandoning the continuity while Marvel is finally embracing it?<br><br>For any electronic fans out there, this score is definitely a must listen, there are some badass 80ís beats (with a dash of Tron legacy) in here.I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.
Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's commentsThe funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.

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  1. I'm Electro (0:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Andrew Kawczynski, Junkie XL, Dave Stewart
  2. There He Is (2:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Andy Page
  3. I'm Spider-Man (1:04)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. My Enemy (8:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Andrew Kawczynski, Junkie XL, Johnny Marr
  5. Ground Rules (1:11)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  6. Look At Me (3:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Andrew Kawczynski, Junkie XL, Johnny Marr, Andy Page
  7. Special Project (3:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Andy Page
  8. You Need Me (3:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Adam Peters
  9. So Much Anger (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Johnny Marr
  10. I'm Moving To England (1:03)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger
  11. I'm Goblin (3:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  12. Let Her Go (0:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger
  13. You're My Boy (2:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson
  14. I Need To Know (5:00)
    Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski, Johnny Marr, Dave Stewart
  15. Sum Total (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  16. I Chose You (1:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger
  17. We're Best Friends (2:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger
  18. Still Crazy (2:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Andrew Kawczynski, Junkie XL, Johnny Marr
  19. The Rest Of My Life (2:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Andrew Kawczynski, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger
  20. You're That Spider Guy (5:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  1. The Electro Suite (12:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Andrew Kawczynski, Junkie XL, Johnny Marr
  2. Harry's Suite (10:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  3. Cold War (3:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Johnny Marr, Czarina Russell
  4. No Place Like Home (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  5. It's On Again - Alicia Keys feat. Kendrick Lamar (3:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Alicia Keys, Kendrick Lamar
  6. Song For Zula - Phosphorescent (6:09)
  7. That's My Man - Liz (3:47)
  8. Here - Pharrell Williams (4:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Steve Mazzaro, Stephen Lipson
  9. Honest - The Neighbourhood (3:57)
  10. Within The Web (First Day Jam) - Czarina Russell (4:30)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Czarina Russell, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson
  11. Electro Remix - Alvin Risk & Hans Zimmer (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Alvin Risk
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Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-12 02:22:37
I'm giving this one a listen after a long while... Man, it's a shame the movie was as thrown together as it was, because this was a really fresh and interesting score for Hans. It's fun, it's colorful, it's got a broad range of sounds, the main theme is an upbeat fanfare... I wish he would write superhero scores like this more often!

It really goes to show that Hans writes for the movie that's in front of him, with the direction the director asks for. Hans said he "didn't know how" to write a theme like the one we got here, at first, but Marc Webb asked for a fanfare, so Hans gave him one. I wish more directors would give Hans movies to push him out of "brooding and/or "sound design" zone. Cause he really makes good music when the movie lets him.

Anonymous reply Replies: 11 || 2016-04-12 22:02:37
I was wondering... Isn't there a way to make ''The Rest of My Life'' film version available as a bonus track? Like it happened with ''No Time for Caution''? People usually want the whole thing, but I think most of the fans would be happy to get at least this one track. Because it is way more beautiful than the album version. Just my thoughts. How did ''No Time for Caution'' happened anyway? Was it a petition or something?

Mike2016-04-13 15:33:30
The Interstellar page here on this site will tell you how that happened... ;) Hybrid Soldier got in touch with Zimmer and with Chris Craker (or whatever the album producer's name was), and that, presumably coupled with all the social media outcry AND the negative reviews people were giving the album on Amazon, prompted them to "do something" about it. Quite nice of them, really. It wasn't the film version, but the fact that they tried to make the fans happy and were willing to do that was cool.

As for "Rest of My Life"... What we have is what we get, I think. Unless the film version were an official "alternate" on the complete score (like the film version of "Flight" from Man of Steel), then we'll have to make the best of fan's efforts to isolate the music from the film. Unfortunately, most edits like that - No Time For Caution, Rest of My Life, Batman Chased - stay in the editing vaults of the studio and are never made "tangible" for everybody to have.

Anonymous2016-04-13 15:46:04
Thanks for the reply, Mike. Well, everything you say makes sense, I suppose.

mpolonest1232016-04-14 05:23:15
Out of curiosity;

Would going back and adding extra, unreleased music to a digital album be costly? Think something like Apple Music. I know there isn't a high demand for "complete scores" outside of the score community but it would be pretty cool to see some of the albums expanded upon (looking at you TASM2/SH2).

Does anyone have any insight into licensing/re-use fees for digital releases?

Hybrid Soldier2016-04-14 10:36:19
I don't think it would be costy but Spidey is one of the worst selling album of HZ ever, so I stop you right away about any expension or any bonus thing... lol

mpolonest1232016-04-14 14:28:58
Wow, I never knew that album tanked. That's a shame given the quality. Oh well, I guess it's just back to waiting for recording sessions lol

Ds2016-04-14 14:50:38
It'd be interesting is such information was available somewhere for general public. Really wondering what are the top ones, for instance. And the worst ones :-p

Brent2016-04-14 15:45:14
Ds, that would be very interesting indeed. I'm guessing Gladiator, The Lion King and Pirates have to be near the top, right? :)

Mike2016-04-14 16:43:55
Spidey got low sales? Really?!

Hybrid Soldier2016-04-15 01:13:20
Yes it did, surprisingly. HZ told me, I think he knows... lol

Anonymous2016-04-15 11:08:25
Not suprised. It sounded horrible. Too much vocals. Too much synth

probably samples put a lot of people off purchasing it

Mike2016-04-15 16:53:03
Huh... Even if you dislike the music, this one is way better as an album than A LOT of HZ scores I could think of that were badly presented.... especially from around 2010-2012....

... reply Replies: 0 || 2016-03-19 16:35:30
Does anyone have sheet music for Harry's Suite?

... reply Replies: 13 || 2016-02-22 12:48:44
Hybrid, do you know if Hans will be involved with the new spider man movie? It would be pretty sweet if they used his theme!

Edmund Meinerts2016-02-22 13:07:57
If they don't even keep themes across movies with the same version of the character, what makes you think they will on yet another unnecessary reboot?

...2016-02-22 16:04:39
Well HZ is a big name and it's not a bad thing to have his name on your movie. Also, he happens to be a great composer so no loss. If he wants to do it, the studio won't object.

ggctuk2016-02-23 09:45:22
Big name though Zimmer might be, it's more likely to be somebody already in with the MCU. I'd personaly like Danny Elfman to take the score and see how he would write a new Spider-Man theme.

Edmund Meinerts2016-02-23 12:02:47
I don't like the idea of Elfman for the same reason I don't like Zimmer on Bat vs Supes - one composer doing two versions of the same character is just weird to me.

I don't even like that they're rebooting I don't care too much who they get. But I think Powell would be a perfect choice. (Then again, when don't I?)

...2016-02-23 12:41:40
Hans didn't write the new batman theme but I get your point! I was one of the people who actually liked the new spider man. I think Andrew Garfield was really good and even though the second movie was a bit unfocused, it was still enjoyable. I really liked both the scores and really hoped to hear a sequel score by Hans.

They should just get Hans to do it! The theme really fits the character so well!

Macejko2016-02-23 17:59:06
Marvel already managed to alienate pretty much every major composer working today, so I wouldn't be surprised if they went with some easily managable newcomer... or James Newton Howard, which is my personal bet. I think he could actually be a great fit for Spidey, if only he remembered his Disney roots.
I don't want a return of Hans' theme. Strange as it may seem, I'm actually one of the few people who really, really dislikes his (well, "his") TASM2 score.
And as for Powell... no way. It ain't happening, ever. He is by no means gonna take Marvel's bullshit, although I'd actually truly like to hear his take on Spider-Man.
IMHO one of these people will be the next Spider-Man composer:
James Newton Howard, Steve Jablonsky, Bear McCreary, or John Debney.

Brent2016-02-23 20:42:47
My bet is Jablonsky. He was actually attached to do TASM2 if I remember correctly. But, John Debney could be interesting.

Ds2016-02-23 21:43:47
Could be Henry Jackman as well since he's starting his run with Marvel.

mpolonest1232016-02-23 21:49:35
Jackman is pretty versatile so I would be curious to see how he would tackle Spidey. Especially if he could pull out something like Kingsman.

Edmund Meinerts2016-02-24 00:30:02
Yeah, I know Powell WON'T do Spidey, but I think he'd be great at it. He has the humor, the style and the perfect ability to do upbeat heroic superhero-type music with a bit of a modern twist. I don't want something super classic orchestral like Williams' Superman for Spidey, neither do I want the modern self-serious Zimmer/JXL style - something in between is what he needs, and Powell would be fantastic for that!

Bear McCreary would be super cool as well. But we should all just wait and see who's directing the thing...

ei182016-02-24 01:22:34
Jon Watts is directing the new film

The Pale King2016-02-24 04:06:29
I'd say it's pretty solidly anyone's game.

If Henry Jackman can compose something half as good as his themes for Kingsman and ESPECIALLY for Kick-Ass, I'd be all for it.

I could easily see them going for someone like Bear McCreary, Brian Tyler, or John Debney, since they've all contributed to the MCU before. Christophe Beck could also be added to that shortlist, I suppose.

My picks, personally, would be either for Carter Burwell (who was supposed to be involved with Thor: The Dark World, but dropped out due to creative differences), or Mark Mothersbaugh, who's basically my top choice.

I'd say Steve Jablonsky and ESPECIALLY Zimmer and / or Junkie are pretty unlikely, though, all things considered.

ggctuk2016-02-24 12:28:09
Debney did additional music for the Raimi films, so I wouldn't say no. I'd personally like Christopher Young back though: I loved his Spider-Man 3 music and I would love to see him come up with a new theme.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 1 || 2015-12-27 02:35:17
Both Flying Montage and Electro Showdown Pt. 2 are amazing!

Especially the expanded bit of Gwen's theme at the end of the Montage and the middle portion of the showdown cue. I wonder why they were removed...

Mike2016-01-03 18:51:57
Flying Montage is one of my favorite cues. Great stuff.

ggctuk reply Replies: 2 || 2015-12-11 09:38:08
Ten cues leak out and not a soul comments?

Seems some of the cues are final mixes there and some are demo mixes, particularly the final battle cues sound like demo mixes.

Anonymous2015-12-12 00:33:09
I was told they leaked only b/c they were for promotional use only before the movie came out in 2014.. I got bashed on by spreading hope that the sessions will leak soon. You never know....

ggctuk2015-12-12 08:40:20
They still expand the score somewhat.

hamidreza reply Replies: 0 || 2015-11-02 17:38:46
very good great hans zimmer.
every movie with your music will be best

Anonymous reply Replies: 12 || 2015-07-30 07:01:52
Any update on the recording sessions?

Russel2015-07-30 07:04:07
Yeah, Sony has them.

ggctuk2015-07-30 08:42:27
So do the hackers. Good luck finding them though.

Anonymous2015-07-30 21:13:09
What ever happened to them? Nothing happened when The Interview released..

ggctuk2015-07-30 22:22:33
Eh, basically they said "Release the Interview, but ever do anything like that again and you'll be sorry."

Russel2015-07-30 23:04:36
I never heard or saw any proof of that..

ggctuk2015-07-30 23:50:11
A bit more expanded, they said that Sony had suffered enough and that they could release The Interview, so long as they didn't make Kim Jong Un's death 'too happy' and so long as they weren't tested again, because they would be ready for the fight.

A conflicting message was sent to Sony privately, telling them to remove all mentions of the movie.

It's pretty well-documented.

Anonymous2015-08-12 10:16:40
Word in the street is someone is selling TASM2 sessions for 500 pounds. So maybe someone is willing to sell it and someone who has the money can buy it.....we'll wait and see.....I'm aching to hear the sessions though.

Hybrid Soldier2015-08-12 10:35:47
Fake stuff are being sold, I'm told... lol

ggctuk2015-08-12 12:10:44
Of course there's fakes floating around. There's quite a few prolific fakers out there who like to pass off DVD rip-laden scores as the real thing.

My advice for anybody who's even contemplating buying something like this - aside from "don't do it" - is to ask for a sample from a cue you know couldn't possibly be cleanly ripped from the DVD.

Zaralyth2015-08-12 21:55:16
I exchanged emails with a month with the guy who is selling TASM2 and SH2 for 500 euroes each, but when it came down to asking for sampels, he never got back to me..

reac632015-08-27 15:37:54
I have two question,please answer them
Music that play when electro died isnt in album? And where I can find that music?,its veryyy niceee
answer pleaseeeee

ggctuk2015-08-27 21:51:00
Nope. It's not there.

You'll find it in the film, buried in the SFX and dialogue of the scene. It's not cleanly available. Maybe if the recording sessions ever leak out, you'll get it, but until then, no, it's not available.

El Baradei reply Replies: 17 || 2015-06-23 10:39:11
James Horner is dead.

trent easton navarro2015-06-23 11:13:35
Very sad. It was Horner, together with Goldsmith and Zimmer, that got me into film music in the mid 90's.

Edmund Meinerts2015-06-23 11:20:50
And you're an asshole. Seriously - could you be any more blunt and unfeeling about it?

Horner was killed in a plane crash - he was piloting the aircraft himself and was the only person on board. At least he was doing something he loved.

This is a horrifying, crippling loss for film music. If it had been Williams, would still have been tragic, of course, but it wouldn't have been a shock. Both of them have such long and fruitful careers behind them. Horner still had so much to give the film music world. His career was nowhere near done. He was just 61...he could have composed for at least another two decades.

It seems heartless to mourn the loss of his music, in lieu of mourning the loss of the man. But the music WAS the man. No other composer was able to wear his heart on his sleeves via his music with quite the same directness as Horner. His was a unique gift, and it will be sorely, sorely missed.

In many ways, the fiercely traditional Horner was the antithesis to what Hans Zimmer and Remote Control stand for in film music...nevertheless, I'm sure we can find common ground here in acknowledging what a loss this is.


Zimson2015-06-23 13:00:19
I'm completely shocked! He was one of most important Hollywood composers of all time. I think I've listened to braveheart like a 100 times.
thanks Edmund. That was really uplifting.
We should put a picture of him on top of the website in memoriam.

Horner-Fan2015-06-23 15:49:58
This is so sad! We lost one of the best composers!And the only thing some people can think of is to call someone "asshole"...shame on you!

Edmund Meinerts2015-06-23 16:01:12
Only thing some people can think of? Did you not read the rest of my post?

mrrea2015-06-23 16:05:43
I know horner wasn't part of rcp but it would be nice to honor him on the home page maybe? Would be nice. RIP James Horner. Your music will forever remain printed on mine and many many other people's minds as long as we live!

RealFfingMusic2015-06-23 16:18:32
Edmund's first comment made me sing Avatar, stupidly hoping James Horner would come back in a 10-feet tall blue body.

Mark2015-06-23 16:38:01
Edmund, I agree with you totally. Horner's music was truly consistently beautiful and uniquely recognizable and most certainly as you said it was "the antithesis of what HZ and RCP stands for..." We'll just leave it at that so all the drones can read whatever they want into that comment. This is a huge loss for the film music world as Horner (IMHO) was one of the top 3 composers. My sincere condolences to his family.

garavel2015-06-23 20:56:52
Please complete score.

Frenchans2015-06-23 22:58:54
James Horner...A huge loss for the cinema (especially for James Cameron)!
Titanic, Braveheart, Troy, Avatar, Legends of the Fall,...Anyway, a legend.

Boldizar 2015-06-24 02:47:14
What does this have to do with Spider-Man, other than the being "shocked" references?

Thejok3rrules2015-06-24 06:00:26
He scored the first TASM, good reason enough for you?

A great loss indeed, may he rest in peace.

RealFfingMusic2015-06-24 12:24:00
@Hybrid, Horner's pic on top looks like he's part of the documentary.

TurdMaster30002015-06-24 12:34:08
To add on to Horner's relevance to the films discussed, it was really a shame that he wound up skipping out on ASM2 due to feeling that the sequel was turning out poorly. I found Zimmer's work to be surprisingly decent and far less broody and simple than what some people expected, but it was still a great wish of mine to have seen what Horner would have produced for the movie.

In the first film, he had established a sort of love/family theme that had a bit of a tragic overtone to it, and it would have undoubtedly been built off of and made all the more beautiful and heart numbing for a certain pivotal moment in this installment.

Additionally, the amount of room for heroic fanfares and grandiose pieces would have been much wider after moving past the first movie's more restrained and grounded atmosphere, so hearing more fun and action packed Spidey material would have been very welcomed as well.

Hybrid Soldier2015-06-24 12:37:33
Guys, I'm not in charge of the banners... :P

Anonymous2015-06-24 19:11:30
Huh??? It's your website isn't it??

Hybrid Soldier2015-06-24 22:38:49
Content, not technic !!! :)

AJ reply Replies: 0 || 2015-06-15 23:33:26
Hybryd hi, um do you know if the music to Gwen and Peter breaking up, the graduation, Peter coming out of the tunnel to Gwen's voicemail, Peter going home after Times Square would can be released?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2015-05-06 15:30:27
Idk if anyone's commented on this yet...but judging by the crediting and the fact that it plays nowhere else in the film, "There He Is" must be some alternate version of the opening cue.

greg reply Replies: 3 || 2015-04-30 22:52:44
hey hybryd would it be possible to ask hans to post some unreleased cues here. Since he agreed to release more tracks from interstellar he could do this with this one too

Cooper2015-04-30 23:58:33
Please Hybrid.. ask HANS..

Anonymous2015-05-01 01:11:20
Or leak the whole recording sessions ;)

alh2015-05-02 20:26:09
would be cool!

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-28 22:21:42
Just noticed that certain parts of "Flying Montage" (the electric guitar mostly) are also used in "Within The Web".

Russel reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-27 23:13:02
Just watched the movie for the 4th time. Wow. Wish there was a 3rd in the making :/

Why would Marvel reboot AGAIN? Why not make a 3rd film?

theeaglesfan005 2015-03-28 00:06:37
It's not Marvel rebooting it... it's technically Sony

But now that Marvel Studios has some control there hopefully won't be any more reboots after Avengers

ggctuk2015-03-28 10:40:56
Actually, this time it IS Marvel rebooting it. It was Sony who rebooted it before. The reason a third film is not being made is because it seems the current style would not fit in with Marvel's films very well: Marvel wants creative control over the character and story and you can't get that with two previous films. Sony, of course, will still have final say, but I can't see them objecting to what Marvel might do.

This is not a bad thing. Sony haven't exactly grasped the opportunities of the license. Marvel can and most likely will if their version is a success (which it will be) - they could have Miles Morales, Venom, Spider-Girl, Scarlet Spider... all manner of things in a 'miniverse' that extends into the Avengers films. Sony have been struggling to do that since Spider-Man 3.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-27 17:53:40
Still no credit for the Harry Suite? Interesting that so many were involved with the Electro Suite...isn't that basically everybody?

... reply Replies: 9 || 2015-03-22 12:01:27
Hybrid, do you know if there is any cache that Zimmer might score te marvel spider man movie? I know it's a reboot so it is probably unlikely but it would be really cool if he just scored te spider man parts in civil war and then the stand alone movie with the magnificent six!

Hybrid Soldier2015-03-22 12:03:40
First I guess it'll depend on who's gonna direct... Have no idea, I wouldn't bet on that though...

Ggctuk2015-03-22 23:44:25
I think it's likely to be Brian Tyler or Danny Elfman, personally, as Tyler's their go-to guy and Elfman ATM is providing additional music but has a history with Spidey.

Hybrid Soldier2015-03-23 08:42:03
I doubt Disney would hire Tyler again after the Avengers 2 case...

...2015-03-23 09:39:53
Yea... I think he'll return for thor 3 as he did the second one, but that'll be the last one he'll score for marvel...

bro2015-03-23 12:43:21
What did he do wrong on Avengers 2? I wasn't around for the drama

Mike2015-03-23 14:32:39
I'm not sure specifically, but we know Marvel eventually got Danny Elfman to write (rewrite?) additional music for Avengers 2, and in one interview Tyler said something to the effect of, "The studio executives sometimes want my music to be just barely present in the background, but I always like things front and center." So it sounds like there's some creative differences, for sure.

mpolonest1232015-03-23 14:49:38
Danny elfman mentioned in an interview that his job was to incorporate Silvestri's theme in some scenes. Maybe Tyler didn't want to use it all?

Mike2015-03-23 15:00:42
Oh, really? So they are using Silvestri's theme, then? That's exciting! Continuity FTW!

mpolonest1232015-03-23 15:13:00
I really hope so! The last thing these Marvel films is less continuity. I'm just worried Brian Tyler was trying to force a new theme instead of following Silvestri.

And here's the quote from Elfman;
"I was doing the same thing actually just last week because Iíve contributed music to the new Avengers movie. I took part of Alan Silvestriís theme on the original [movie], which I really liked, and I pulled it into it new theme, which became kind of a hybrid. I really enjoyed that."

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-03 22:35:35
Can anyone help a guy out with this? What are the OST tracks with their correct (cuesheet) titles?

Mike reply Replies: 5 || 2015-02-26 17:02:41
If I could have one so-far-unreleased cue, it would be Flying Montage. No idea why they left that off the OST.

greg2015-02-26 17:22:21
I dont know either and i dont know why people here didnt complain about missing tracks like they did with interstellar. Im sure hybryd could ask zimmer to give some.

Mike2015-02-26 17:37:32
With all the complaints even after No Time For Caution came out, I don't think Hybrid wants to ask Zimmer for But I do recall Hybrid saying that Zimmer himself had mentioned putting out some "leftovers" from this score as downloadable tracks.

ggctuk2015-02-26 22:58:11
I wouldn't mind having the stems from the Electro Suite, personally.

John2015-02-27 00:24:09
If I could have at least two unreleased cues....It would be "The Flying Montage" and "I Can't Lose You Too".

Mike2015-02-27 15:30:03
Oh, and to resurrect the typical film version vs original cue issue, I'd also love the film version of The Rest of My much more moving than the album version IMO. Though I do understand that the album was already put together by the time they altered it.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 6 || 2015-02-15 18:04:35
I know everybody only talks about Electro's theme but I have to say that I love Harry's Suite. It's so underplayed but is incredibly powerful, especially the "Angels and Demons" bit at 5:20.

billy2015-02-16 18:21:59
I agree with you. I love Harry's theme suite, it's really nice! The only thing that's wrong with it is the character it's been written for !! lol

mpolonest1232015-02-17 01:09:04
Haha I agree, although I still don't think the film as a whole was that bad actually

billy2015-02-17 09:12:27
Me too. And I'm sad that we may not see Andrew Garfield again in this role

ggctuk2015-02-17 11:41:33
There's no "may not". Marvel's already looking for a new character. And on top of that, it does seem unlikely they'll hire Hans Zimmer. They're more likely to hire Brian Tyler as he's their go-to composer right now.

I wonder if LaLaLand would be interested in releasing a more complete version of this score.

ggctuk2015-02-17 11:42:24
Did I say character? I meant actor. lol.

mpolonest1232015-02-17 15:13:40
If there were any issues with the film, it most likely had to do with studio tampering. I am happy to see Spidey being integrated into the MCU, however.

And don't forget, Sinister Six hasn't been cancelled yet. If it does happen we might get a kickass stand alone. (And maybe even a score from Zimmer or co.)

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2015-01-19 06:01:44
Any update on the TASM2 recording sessions ?

Mike2015-01-19 21:31:13
No. ;)

Anonymous reply Replies: 25 || 2014-12-22 13:36:33
LC 1m01 c6v3 0122 v1.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 1m01a c3v3 1125 v1.13 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 1m01a c5v5 0106 v3.09 SJL MIX 05-24 St Mix
LC 1m01b c5v4 0104 v2.06 SJL MIX 14-24 St Mix
LC 1m02 c5v5 0106 v23.01 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix RPT 2
LC 1m03 c5v4 0104 v5.09 SJL MIX 10-24 St Mix WIDE v2
LC 1m04a c5v5 0106 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 1m05 c6v4 0124 v7.01 SJL MIX 05-24 St Mix
LC 1m08 c5v5 0106 v2.04 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m09 c5v3 0102 v1.16 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m10 c6v2pt 0122 v10.08 SJL MIX 09-24 St Mix
LC 2m10 c7v2 0131 v10.09 SJL MIX 13-24 St Mix
LC 2m10 c7v2 0131 v10.13 SJL Mix 15-24 St Mix
LC 2m11 c5v3 0102 v2.02 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 2m12 c5v3 0102 v1.02 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix
LC 2m12 c7v2 0131 v1.03 AK SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 2m12 c7v2 0131 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m16 c5v3 0102 v1.07 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 2m18 c5v3 0102 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m18 c5v3 0102 v5.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 2m19 c5v3 0102 v1.13 SJL MIX 03-16 Pno NEW PNO
LC 2m20 c5v3 0102 v1.06 SJL MIX 09-24 St Mix
LC 2m20 c7v4 0131 v1.08 AK INS SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 2m22 c5v3 1220 v2.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 3m23 c3v3 1125 v22 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 3m24 c5v5 0110 v1.04 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 3m26 c5v4 0103 v1.06 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 3m28 c5v4 0103 v1.02 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 3m30 c5v3 1220 v1.08 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m31a c5v3 0103 v3.11 SJL MIX 09-24 St Mix
LC 4m31b c5v3 0103 v1.06 SJL MIX 07-24 St Mix
LC 4m31b c6v3 0123 v2.03 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 4m32 c5v3 0103 v2.03 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m32 c7v2 0201 v4.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 4m37 c5v3 0103 v2.04 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix
LC 4m39 c5v3 0103 v5.05 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m40 c5v3 0103 v1.03 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 4m41 c5v3 0103 v1.09 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m41c c5v4 0105 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m42 c6v2 0116 v2.03 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 5m42a c7v3 0203 v3.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m44 c3v6 1126 v6.01 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 5m44 c5v4 0105 v9.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 5m45 c6 0113 v2.14 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 5m45a c6v2 0116 v4.00 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m46 c5v4 0106 v3.04 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 6m46 c7v3 0203 v4.07 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m46 c7v3 0203 v4.07 Alt SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m47 c5v4 0106 v2.01 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m47a c6v3 0123 v2.01 SJL MIX 04-24 St Mix
LC 6m48 c5v4 0106 v2.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m50 c6 0113 v1.01 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m51 c6v3 0123 v2.16 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 6m51 c7v3 0203 v3.03 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 6m52 c7 0203 v6.03 SJL MIX 10-24 St Mix
LC 6m53_54 c5v4 0106 v1.12 SJL MIX 05-24 St Mix
LC 7m55 c7v2 0201 v2.06 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 7m56 c6 0117 v1.03 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 7m57 c7v2 0204 v2.06 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 7m58a c7v2 0204 v1.04 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 7m59 c6v4 0125 v4.05 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix
LC 7m60 c6 0117 v1.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 7m60 c6 0117 v1.00 ALT SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 7m61 c6v4 0125 v4.05 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 7m61 c6v4 0125 v5.00 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 7m61 c6v4 0125 v6.02 SJL MIX 01-24 St Mix
LC 8m62 c7v4 0201 v1.05 SJL MIX 02-24 St Mix
LC 8m63 c7v4 0201 v5.07 SJL MIX 03-24 St Mix

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-22 13:41:29
Well posting this won't get you far, it's resulting from the Sony hacking... Those files haven't leaked anyway, and probably won't anytime soon...

theeaglesfan005 2014-12-22 15:17:36
what the hell does the LC mean?

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-22 15:21:09
It's the film codename...

loneranger2014-12-22 17:19:55
Dude share,share,share.... i want complete score

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-22 17:35:13
He's got nothing... lol

loneranger2014-12-22 19:18:17

ggctuk2014-12-22 22:50:56
Given the extent, I would say it is a fairly safe bet these hackers DID obtain sessions files (they have listed .zip files that would correspond in size to the music in compressed format). However, they have NOT publicly shared them. I doubt they are even aware of their worth. And with Sony having caved in to their demands, I doubt we'll see anything posted from them, unless Sony crosses the line they have set up.

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-22 22:57:14
They do have the files, no need to be a genius to understand that...

And the "worth", well, for 99% of the human population these things are worthless, especially for hackers like that who only care about email passwords or social security numbers. If this Sony case blows completely they might end up throwing the files to the trashbin...

Anonymous2014-12-22 23:02:40
It is rather interesting to note that none of these files have a HZ acronym next to them. Oh, and LC stands for London Calling, which, as Hybrid Soldier put it, was the code name of the film.

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-22 23:07:51
Well it means nothing the files have SJL, who is Steven Lipson, the music mixer...

bro2014-12-22 23:52:03
you should realize that the 32 gb file of everything obtained in the hack is available to the public and is shared on several torrent sites

im sure you can find the session files yourselves

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-22 23:53:38
Trust me, it's not...

They "put out" only a little of what they got...

Anonymous2014-12-23 00:01:22
I thought LC stood for "Little Cock", in reference to Andrew Garfield

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-23 00:14:17

You just earned a role in the next Adam Sandler film. Congratzzz !

bro2014-12-23 04:04:06
last time you told us to trust you, it was when you said "Imperfect Lock" would have the docking cue lol..

Anonymous2014-12-23 04:21:27
Sir Leigh Teabing said it best from Da Vinci Code: "The French cannot be trusted"!

Russel2014-12-23 06:01:10
I can stand up for Hybrid and say no sessions are in any of the SPE leaks, at all. There are 9 total so far.

smitty2014-12-23 10:10:27
It's interesting how Hybrid is reacting here very nervous ^^ again a session which he have and is getting maybe leaked? Oh nooo... ;)

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-23 10:29:06
No no I'm not nervous I want this thing out actually. ;) I'm just pissed at people posting tracklists for no purpose, without explaining why or what. Throw this to people's face without context...

smitty2014-12-23 10:31:00
ok, buddy, it just looked like that and i started actually having then a good feeling that this things comes out soon x)

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-23 11:49:40
Well who knows...

I actually tried to make this cue list match with the cuesheet, though without the music itself it's difficult to be entirely sure lol...

LC 1m01 c6v3_0122 v1.00 THE LOGOS
LC 1m01a c3v3_1125 v1.13 THE OPENING
LC 1m01a c5v5_0106 v3.09 THE OPENING ALT
LC 1m01b c5v4_0104 v2.06 PARENTS ON PLANE
LC 1m02 c5v5_0106 v23.01 SPIDEY LOGO / FLYING
LC 1m03 c5v4_0104 v5.09 TRUCK CHASE
LC 1m04a c5v5_0106 v1.03 PETER HALLUCINATES PT 1
LC 1m05 c6v4_0124 v7.01 GRADUATION
LC 1m08 c5v5_0106 v2.04 PETER HALLUCINATES PT 2
LC 2m09 c5v3_0102 v1.16 I CANíT LOSE YOU TOO
LC 2m10 c6v2pt_0122 v10.08 FLYING MONTAGE
LC 2m10 c7v2_0131 v10.09 FLYING MONTAGE ALT
LC 2m10 c7v2_0131 v10.13 FLYING MONTAGE ALT 2
LC 2m20 c5v3_0102 v1.06 HARRY COMES HOME
LC 2m20 c7v4_0131 v1.08 AK INS HARRY COMES HOME ALT
LC 2m22 c5v3_1220 v2.00 MAX ELECTROCUTED
LC 3m23 c3v3_1125 v22 PETER VISITS HARRY
LC 3m24 c5v5_0110 v1.04 OSCORP SURVEILLANCE
LC 3m26 c5v4_0103 v1.06 ELECTRO IS BORN
LC 3m28 c5v4_0103 v1.02 ELECTRO WANDERS
LC 3m30 c5v3_1220 v1.08 OXFORD
LC 4m31a c5v3_0103 v3.11 TIMES SQUARE PT 1
LC 4m31b c5v3_0103 v1.06 TIMES SQUARE PT 2
LC 4m31b c6v3_0123 v2.03 TIMES SQUARE PT 2 ALT
LC 4m37 c5v3_0103 v2.04 HARRY FINDS SECRET FILES
LC 4m39 c5v3_0103 v5.05 HARRY WANTS SPIDEYíS BLOOD
LC 4m41 c5v3_0103 v1.09 HARRY MEETS GWEN
LC 5m41c c5v4_0105 v1.03 DR KAFKA EXPERIMENTS
LC 5m42a c7v3_0203 v3.00 I CANíT GIVE YOU MY BLOOD
LC 5m45a c6v2_0116 v4.00 PETER FINDS CLUE
LC 6m46 c5v4_0106 v3.04 SPECIAL PROJECTS
LC 6m46 c7v3_0203 v4.07 SPECIAL PROJECTS ALT
LC 6m46 c7v3_0203 v4.07 Alt SPECIAL PROJECTS ALT 2
LC 6m47 c5v4_0106 v2.01 ROOSEVELT STATION
LC 6m47a c6v3_0123 v2.01 ELECTRO RELEASED
LC 6m48 c5v4_0106 v2.03 GWENíS VOICEMAIL
LC 6m50 c6_0113 v1.01 HARRY & ELECTRO RETURN
LC 6m51 c6v3_0123 v2.16 HARRY TRANSFORMATION
LC 6m51 c7v3_0203 v3.03 HARRY TRANSFORMATION ALT
LC 6m52 c7_0203 v6.03 I LOVE YOU
LC 6m53_54 c5v4_0106 POWER STATION
LC 7m55 c7v2_0201 v2.06 ELECTRO SHOWDOWN PT 1
LC 7m55 c6_0117 v2.05 ELECTRO SHOWDOWN PT 1 ALT
LC 7m56 c6_0117 v1.03 ITSY BISTY SPIDER THEME (ELEC)
LC 7m57 c7v2_0204 v2.06 ELECTRO SHOWDOWN PT 2
LC 7m58a c7v2_0204 v1.04 PLANES / POWER RESTORED
LC 7m60 c6_0117 v1.00 GOBLIN SHOWDOWN
LC 7m60 c6_0117 v1.00 ALT GOBLIN SHOWDOWN ALT
LC 8m63 c7v4_0201 v5.07 RHINO RETURNS

bro2014-12-23 14:43:37
Hybrid isn't the only person with this stuff if he even has it

It will be posted eventyw

Adam2014-12-23 19:20:44
Where's "The Rest of My Life"?!

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-23 19:34:31
If you're paying attention I didn't put the whole thing, just those I'm "pretty sure" of ! :)

Adam2014-12-23 19:47:21
Ohh, ok. I panicked. That's my favorite cue!

John reply Replies: 3 || 2014-12-05 00:26:13
Regarding the complete cue list, is there a possible leak sometime soon? I would LOVE to have the recording sessions :)

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-05 08:50:22
People stop thinking cuesheet availability on publishing websites & music leaks have anything in common, you'll do yourself a big favor...

ggctuk2014-12-05 18:24:26
Didn't Hybrid say he got those titles by doing BMI and ASCAP searches? BMI and ASCAP are just lists with many, many cue titles from many many films on them, and more of course. Absolutely no relation to any leaking whatsoever.

Anonymous2014-12-13 05:24:56
I really hope it leaks soon though !! I love this score !! It'd be a great Christmas gift ;)

NM reply Replies: 23 || 2014-12-09 19:54:47
Interesting that James Horner has come out and described the film as "dreadful" being the reason he didn't do it. It is, of course, a hideous film with almost no redeeming features, but it's rare to see a composer speak with such a candour.

At least Hans and his team had fun with it I suppose.

Scorefan2014-12-09 20:08:47
But it's not a surprise, he did the same thing with Yared's Troy. But i read in another interview Horner was not happy to score TASM1, he did it just to know how bad or good it would be, but for the second he rejected to write the score again.
Even, i remember Horner was not the first choice to score TASM1.

Ds2014-12-09 20:23:24
I read the same as Scorefan. I didn't know Marc Webb even asked Horner to do the 2nd movie. I think it is rather weird. Since when is Hans Zimmer a "second choice" after another composer rejected your movie??

And NM I personally think TASM2 is by far superior to most of the crap Marvel Studios (I mean Disney-Marvel) has produced, like the first Captain America or both awful Thor movies. At least it had some cool visual style and an awesome soundtrack (something Disney-Marvel movies never had).

Mike2014-12-09 20:31:08
'Since when is Hans Zimmer a "second choice" after another composer rejected your movie??'

According to Hybrid, Hans was the FIRST choice on TASM1 but said no due to The Dark Knight Rises... ;) So this is just getting what Webb wanted to begin with.

Mike2014-12-09 20:35:24
Oh, whoops...That just happened. Didn't see the "I didn't know Marc Webb even asked Horner to do the 2nd movie". So Zimmer was indeed a "second choice", even if he was the first choice originally.

NM2014-12-09 20:52:53

The only Superhero film I've seen recently that was worse than "Spiderman 2" was ironically "Man of Steel"! Both suffer the same problems - empty characters, dumb story, shit unwatachable videogame fight sequences. They're just LCD crud, and they're not even fun with it.

Ds2014-12-10 00:03:35
Well NM then I just guess we have opposite tastes regarding superheros. Man of Steel was one of my fav movies of last year, and probably my fav superhero movie along with The Dark Knight. A bit dark, powerful and majestic, just what I like.

RealFfingMusic2014-12-10 04:14:25
@Ds, my thoughts exactly. The biggest faults with MOS, IMO, is that it seemed like entire scenes and sequences had gone missing from the entire film, resulting in the hole-y story...

@NM, not to be nitpicky, but "Spiderman 2" was made in 2004, and it was magnificent. (Got to be careful with reboots and remakes.)

Macejko2014-12-10 09:23:08
TASM2 is a horrendous, dreadful piece of sh*t and easily the worst movie of this year and probably even the last one. I haven't seen anything this bad since Battleship and I'm pretty sure Hans did it just for the money. I sincerely can't imagine him finding any redeeming qualities in that abomination of a movie, especially since he scored Interstellar the same year. After all, it shows. Interstellar score is a magical and piece of music, whereas TASM2... yeah. I think part of the reason of using the chanting in the Electro's theme was to somewhat clarify his motivation, because the character was written so horribly (as every single one in that movie). Seriously, Hans is a intelligent, thinking person, we all know that. There is simply no way he would NOT despise that movie for what it is. No freakin' way.
(And MoS was awesome, which is exactly why Hans did it with just a little help. Wheareas TASM2... wait, I already made my point.)

Macejko2014-12-10 09:24:42
*Interstellar is a magical and UNIQUE piece of music, I meant to say :)

Edmund Meinerts2014-12-10 12:17:36
I liked Spidey 2 more than Man of Steel. At least it had a sense of fun. It's not a good movie but I'm not sure why people talk about it like it's Batman and Robin or something.

ggctuk2014-12-10 20:17:41
I personally see the movie as being potentially good but ruined by corporate interference, much like the first one. I'd be very surprised if Webb doesn't walk out completely (he's already not directing TASM3 if it happens).

The best thing that can happen is for the rights to revert to Marvel.

Ds2014-12-10 23:51:51
Edmund, "at least it had a sense of fun"... I've heard people complaining a lot about Man Of Steel being too serious and not fun, but frankly since when is this a criterion? Is 12 Years A Slave also a bad movie, since it's not fun at all?

Mike2014-12-11 00:28:32
My objection to MoS wasn't about "fun", personally. It was a serious movie, for better or for worse. We can only expect the composer to score the movie he has in front of him. I do wish the score had had a somewhat greater sense of heroism, though...Ever notice how during the fight scenes, it was pretty much all Zod/evil Kryptonian music? Why couldn't they have imbued the fight scenes with some full statements of Superman's theme (and not just the pleasant-but-repetitive motif from the beginning of "Flight")? Sure, maybe that was the music's way of saying the Kryptonians are really the ones in charge against an unexperienced Superman, but a lot of it was too "one-sided" in my opinion.

Or, as awesome as the "Escape From Ship" cue was, why couldn't they have a big and grandiose statement of Superman's theme (like "What Are You Going...") for when Superman shoots down into the atmosphere to save Lois?

NM2014-12-11 01:09:13
The main problem with Man Of Steel isn't the lack of fun, though it is a joyless film. It's the fact it's incoherent.

thejok3rrules2014-12-11 06:45:57
ggctuk, are you serious? The best thing for this franchise is to stay with Sony. Marvel has produced so many films lately, some of them are good, some are so-so, but they are so generic it's ridculous. You don't feel anything about them, it's cool action and that's where it ends. The TASM series may have its problems, and there's a good bunch of them, but the human interactions in these movies are exceptionnally real, thanks to Marc Webb, whom you feel directed the movie. The acting is top-notch too. If either Webb or Sony ever drops the project for Marvel to take over, I feel the third one will be your usual cheezy Marvel film.

Edmund Meinerts2014-12-11 10:00:03
I wasn't talking about the score, Mike - I know Zimmer had to score what was put in front of him, and I know the relentless gloomy dreariness of the score is down to the relentless gloomy dreariness of the film. But it was the latter I was criticizing. It works for Batman because that character is already very dark - and those films still manage to be fun in a way despite all that. The same approach fell flat for Superman, IMO.

12 Years a Slave is a WILDLY different film with WILDLY different ambitions, Ds. You really can't compare the two. But given the choice between the two, I'd rewatch Django Unchained a hundred times before I watched 12YAS again...because it's fun. ;)

ggctuk2014-12-11 11:22:34
They're already hawking a new trilogy anyway. Those leaked memos reveal that Sony is bitterly disappointed with the way the films have turned out and is ready to field Marvel a deal that will see Marvel produce the films and Sony distribute them.

Marvel isn't likely to drop what is working fine.

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-11 12:31:38
Man Of Steel is dark ?

Is it ?

I don't find anything "dark" in it...

NM2014-12-11 18:05:06
I don't think Man of Steel is particularly "dark" it's just a joyless, boring film to watch. It comes across like it's taking itself seriously, and that's not a problem at all - but, if you do that, you have to deliver the goods. It didn't deliver. The dialogue, editing, direction (though surprisingly good acting to be fair)... it was nearly all remarkably terrible, from start to finish. It's got all the worst bits of Nolan films (stupid militaristic characters, clunky dialogue, confusing editing et al.) with all the worst bits of Synder (incoherent action, emphasis on 'cool' moments rather than story). It's still one of the worst films I've seen in the last few years, and I actually regret parting with my hard-earned money for it when I could've gone to see "Before Midnight" and supported good cinema.

I don't know if I'd apply the same criticism to the music though. I listened to the score before I saw the film, and while there is gloom, and there is action bashing, I could actually imagine the ideas in there - of looking in, a sort of alien kind of sound, the hope etc. The soundtrack album is actually far more interesting and balanced than the film! To give the film some bit of credit, I think they probably did have some ideas to start with. So perhaps the film is a failure of execution, rather than of imagination. But, boy the final product is a mess, half an unwatchable videogame cutscene, half a bunch of confusing messy exposition. Dreadful.

Ds2014-12-11 18:25:19
Personally I liked the direction, editing, "emphasis on cool moments", music, story, in fact this movie gave me everything I'm looking for when I'm watching a superhero movie. I think you just didn't like the movie at all, but your points are opinion, not facts.

And saying it's the worst movie you've ever seen... I hate when people call such big movies "the worst movie all-time". Come on, hundreds of people (some of them are among the best in the industry) are working very hard on these movies, don't tell me everyone of them delivered shit. You should watch more Belgian or French movies where there's absolutely NOTHING good, and then speak about "the worst movie of all-time".

Scorefan2014-12-11 20:00:01
i liked both, Man Of Steel And TASM2. Man of Steel is a complete change from Christopher Reeveīs Movies and from Bryan Singer version. Snyder version continue the line that Nolan made with the batman trilogy, more realistic and a serious tone.
For TASM2, i had not seen TASM1. Itīs a light version from Raimiīs version. Raimiīs version had a serious tone while Webbīs version is more...light.

NM2014-12-12 00:57:15
"but your points are opinion, not facts."

So are yours, and everyone else's. This retort always bugs me a little. I don't really see why I should have to preface everything with "in my opinion"... it's *clearly* my opinion.

"And saying it's the worst movie you've ever seen..."

If you can point to where I said that, that'd be good.

" Come on, hundreds of people (some of them are among the best in the industry) are working very hard on these movies, don't tell me everyone of them delivered shit. "

I think the movie's shit. I don't think people intentionally set out to make bad movies, sometimes movies just end up being bad. It's not a sleight on them personally. I never set out to write bad music, but I'm aware I've written plenty of shit.

T-Mann0362014-12-12 08:04:50
To each his own, NM.

NM reply Replies: 0 || 2014-12-11 18:08:41
I forgot to mention; I have the same sort of relationship with this score that I do with, for example, the score to "Attack of the clones". I can enjoy the music on its own terms, and picture a far more interesting film in my head, than the one that was actually produced. Listen to "Across the Stars" and you can hear the longing and sorrow; you turn on the film and it's some people standing in a corridor for 3 hours.

For me, MOS is one of those cases where the music completely out-did the film.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 18 || 2014-12-02 13:27:46
Ready for the full cue sheet ? (not in chrono order)

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Adam Peters

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Andy Page

Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Dave Stewart, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Czarina Russell, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr

Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

Hans Zimmer, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Mike Einziger, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Ann Marie Simpson, Andrew Kawczynski

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Mike Einziger, Ann Marie Simpson, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro

Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Junkie XL, Steve Mazzaro

Mike2014-12-02 15:44:59
Not in order, I this the order they were written in, maybe?

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-02 16:14:50
No it's random, don't search logic where there's not... lol

T-Mann0362014-12-02 17:24:05
Not here to ask for a simple request, but from the look at the random list... I'm deeply impressed.

Lambegue2014-12-02 20:20:39
Thanks Hybrid.
(How long does it take you to make such a precise list ?)

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-02 20:33:59
Not so long, patience & curiosity... :)

But I master ASCAP & BMI digging for what... 6/7 years ? I'm pretty fast at finding what I want ! :D

Gonna try to put that cue sheet in correct order with the film... :)

ggctuk2014-12-03 22:02:12
Does anybody have a definitive list of what each piece on the OST should be titled, from this list?

Parker2014-12-04 14:16:01
Wow! This is impressive. Did these titles not come with slates?
Presumably the first cue is "The Logos" and then "The Opening" followed by "Parents On Plane" and then "Spidey Logo/Flying". But in the film there is only one cue for the logos and the opening... not two separate cues. Thanks for posting, anyway! Great to have for reference!

Mike2014-12-04 17:22:49
It's not really possible to say whether the opening is one or two cues in the film because they're probably able to layer them over each other so they sound like one cue (see "Rise" from TDKR being three cues, "Sacrifice", "He Was the Batman", "Fernet Branca"óthree cues, but judging from the album and film, they sound like one). ;)

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-04 19:20:02
Actually I did put the thing in correct order... Though I'm not sure for certain cues, like Gwen / Oxford / Farewell...

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-04 19:35:23

If anyone has any suggestion, I'm all ears ! lol

Anonymous2014-12-04 22:07:43
Do we have cue lengths?

Mike2014-12-04 22:12:31
I wish all the final Electro confrontation stuff was on OST. It had several full statements of the Spidey theme and was just really good.

As for cue times, not by the looks of it.

Anonymous2014-12-04 22:30:43
For as brief as it was, "PETER DISTRACTS OSCORP SECURITY" was a really nice cue also.

T-Mann0362014-12-05 08:04:10
I have one suggestion, Hybrid Soldier... can I salute you?

Dudu2014-12-06 14:38:52
Actually, I have a question:there is a video where we can see the electro theme being written and composed, and it's credited to Hans Zimmer, Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr and Mike Einzinger. But the cue sheet says something different, why is that??
And I thought "You're that spider-guy" would be credited to more guys lol (johnny marr and mike einzinger for the guitars, junkie xl for the percs...anyway)

Mike2014-12-06 15:18:05
Actually, come to think of it, I was wondering the same thing: can the Electro Suite not be credited to those guys, as the video with Marc Webb says?

Anonymous2014-12-07 19:04:32
What's the cue when the news is going and people are commending/complaining about spider-man? Really upbeat with lots of guitar, really catchy (not on OST). It ends with Peter looking at Gwen from the roof of a building.

Hybrid Soldier2014-12-07 19:07:58
It's Flying Montage... :)

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2014-11-11 01:21:10
What exactly is the deal with "There He Is"? I don't seem to recall it playing anywhere in full in the movie. The closest thing to it was the opening scene, but even that was notably different from it.

Parker2014-12-04 14:19:06
I agree, it's rather strange. I wish the film version of the opening was on the OST. I absolutely love it.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 13 || 2014-10-27 20:06:12
Little who did what... Except for the suites...

Lambegue2014-10-27 20:42:53
Thanks a lot Hybrid !

Adam2014-10-27 22:06:03
Woo hoo!! Thanks a lot, Hybrid!! :D

Mike2014-10-27 22:09:24
Cool stuff! Wasn't expecting this! So it looks like Zimmer wrote all the basic themes (Spider-Man, Electro, Harry, romance theme).

Adam2014-10-27 22:21:39
I gotta say, I'm kind of disappointed and surprised to see that short cues like "I'm Moving to England", "I Chose You" and "Let Her Go" are credited to basically The Magnificent Six. Zimmer couldn't handle them on his own? Or were they part of something bigger, like suites?

Anonymous2014-10-27 22:33:50
also looks like Steve Mazzaro had a big-ish role here.

Mike2014-10-27 22:36:18
Adam, it looks like Pharrell, Steve Mazzaro, and Johnny Marr all had a hand in the love theme, since their names are on all the cues containing it. So that accounts for four names already.

Hybrid Soldier2014-10-27 22:39:04
Yeah you'd wonder why 15 guys are credited on 15 sec cues, right ??? lol

Well yeah the theme & stuff are done together so... It gets tricky...

Adam2014-10-28 01:31:01
I mean "Let Her Go" is 33 seconds and is credited to 5 guys, geez....

Mike2014-10-28 03:27:47
Does anyone have lyrics for the "Within the Web" track?

Zimson 2014-11-04 09:54:38
@Adam It's not that he "couldn't handle it alone", it's that he wanted to write stuff like a band. Just as he did in Black Hawk Down. I'm hoping to hear future projects like this. :)

Hybrid Soldier2014-11-17 16:19:38
Mike you requested the lyrics for Within the Web... Here they are :



Skies inside of me
Lie outside of you
Time Iíll never see
Make me part of you
Worlds bridges apart
Calm evading me
Truths weíll never say
Harm may set me free


A revelation and again I can see
A gravitation to my one true duty
Appreciation for this world around me
A pure vocation that is my destiny


Oh you should
Raise your eyes
How real it seems
Within this web
Of time and dreams
Weíll be wise
To what it means
Within this web
Of time and dreams


Died inside of me
Rise outside of you
Wants Iíll never see
I am part of you
Bridge the worlds apart
Calm invading me
Truths were never said
Storm to set me free


A little revelation and again I can see
A little gravitation to my one true duty
An appreciation for this world around me
A beautiful vocation that is my destiny


Oh you should
Raise your eyes
How real it seems
Within this web
Of time and dreams
Weíll be wise
To what it means
Within this web
Of time and dreams


So, What do you say?
Now, What can you be?
Life itís up to you
How? You set it free
So, What do you say?
Now, What can you be?
Life, itís up to you
How? Go set it free


A little revelation and again I can see
A little gravitation to my one true duty
An appreciation for this world around me
A beautiful vocation that is my destiny

CHORUS 3 (Twice):

Oh you should
Raise your eyes
How real it seems
Within this web
Of time and dreams
Weíll be wise
To what it means
Within this web
Of time and dreams

Mike2014-11-17 20:11:36
Thanks, I appreciate it

Parker2014-12-04 14:17:51
Thanks for the Within The Web lyrics!

ggctuk reply Replies: 8 || 2014-11-25 10:26:14
It's FYC season again and a few have already come out (including the new Transformers). You guys reckon we'll get an FYC of this too?

Hybrid Soldier2014-11-25 10:31:21
Err... I don't think anyone will bother to try to catch any award for that film... lol

badbu2014-11-25 10:38:18
haha :D *lol*

Mike2014-11-25 15:39:45
I'm inclined to agree with Hybrid

theeaglesfan005 2014-11-25 17:44:03
As much as I would love the FYC/Expanded/Complete/Sessions/Whatever you want to call it of this I think Zimmer's Interstellar score should get the Oscar and he or whoever will probably push for that one

thejok3rrules2014-11-25 18:02:43
Yet I am one of those who believe TASM2 is a lot better than Interstellar...

badbu2014-11-25 18:10:39
whaaaaaaat? :D

thejok3rrules2014-11-25 18:28:37
As a soundtrack, indeed. I admit there was a place for misunderstanding...

thejok3rrules2014-11-25 18:28:37
As a soundtrack, indeed. I admit there was a place for misunderstanding...

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2014-11-08 20:09:56
out of curiosity was horner ever supposed to return or was he happy to be out as soon as the first film was done?

Hybrid Soldier2014-11-08 20:20:08
HZ was first considered on TASM 1 but refused because of TDKR...

Horner only did it cause he was begged by Webb... He didn't like it at all and was indeed happy to never return... lol

Mike2014-11-08 20:27:24
The thing I find interesting is that even though Webb wanted Zimmer from the beginning and said, for the second movie, that he wanted a "contemporary" score, he still said he enjoyed hearing a "traditional" score from James Horner.

Also, I bet we have Webb to thank for the themes from both movIes, because he said he specifically wanted the trumpet fanfare from TASM1, and then we got a similar theme for #2...

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