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That's been standard in certain cases, though considerably less nowadays with how complicated these situations have become.<br><br>Having heard both tracks posted, both give me little on their own. I'm sure they work better in the context of the film, and we might see better tracks unveiled eventually.He deserve better.Hans and Lorne like twins. Lorne has a very good personality. I still don't understand why some people are still writing bad comments to Lorne?Probably... lolSo is this how it’s gonna be? Official release for Richter and leaks by Balfe :(Lorne posted a track from Ad Astra on his YouTube channel
Thank you. And i suppose "Need You Busting My Balls - End Credits" title would correspond to ASCAP "Need You Busting My Balls" + "RUSH END CREDITS", while "Just Married" to "RUSH MAIN ON END"?That’s literally the best part of the score though. But it’s typical Richter (Miss Sloane, Black Mirror: Nosedive).Hunt Drunken Weirdness is barely a cue actually, it's just a patch up of sound designs by Mel...<br><br>Italian Party is a name I made up for a cue that's not used in the movie ! :)In ASCAP there is a cue "HUNT DRUNKEN WEIRDNESS" - is this by a chance an alias to "Italian Party", which is absent in ASCAP. Though there are different credits Zimmer/Wesson vs Zimmer/Klebe.https://open.spotify.com/ track/2UcUL4jytfVpW0jSXi3Ggi?si=ETyixI67R5u9AOU1YuClPw<br><br>very lame the cue from Max...
Tom Holkenborg:<br><br>After Funeral<br>Anguilo Bugged<br>Bathroom<br>Big Italian Dead<br>Billy Connolly Lunch<br>End Credit Suite<br>Main Title Theme<br>Bring Jimmy Into The Tent<br>Connolly and Marianne In The Kitchen<br>Death of Deborah<br>Death of Halloran<br>Death of McIntyre<br>Death of Mickey<br>Death of Wheeler<br>The Disappearance of Whitey Bulger<br>Halloran Interview<br>Hospital Cafeteria<br>I’ll Ask You Again<br>Informing Connolly <br>Jimmy and Marianne/Loading Valhalla<br>Jimmy and Connolly’s First Meeting<br>Make A Case Against Him<br>McGuire’s Phone Call<br>Native of Southie<br>Picking Up Tommy King<br>Source Overlay<br>Steak Dinner<br>There’s Nothing More I’m Going To Know<br>Utmost Respect<br>We’re Doing This<br>2 MinutesTom Holkenborg:<br><br>Jimmy Arrives at Cabin<br>Main On Ends<br>Opening <br>Main Title Transition<br>Alley Transition<br>Happy Ending <br>Hospital Visit<br>Because You’re Trash<br>Cops Take Michael <br>Execution/Foot Chase<br>I Used To Watch Your Fights Pt. 1-3<br>I’m Coming After Michael Pt. 1-2<br>Jimmy Calls On Michael<br>Michael Calls Police <br>Jimmy Dies<br>Jimmy Hesitates<br>Jimmy Says Goodbye<br>Sean Kills Kid<br>Sean Dies<br>Sean To Michael Transition<br>Street Source<br>Times Square Transition<br>Us Before You<br>Stay Off Main Streets<br>What’s The Number, Jim?<br>Hit Man Price<br>Jimmy’s Coming<br>Shootout in Woods<br>Train Station Pursuit Pt. 1/2<br><br>Tom Holkenborg, Christian Vorlander<br><br>Car Chase<br>Best Chance You’ve Got<br>New York Transition<br>He Killed His Own Cousin<br>The Projects Pt. 1/2Think Hans probably wrote a few notes in a piano mock-up and Lorne did the rest from that starting point... lolSaw the film today. If to talk music only, I heard Max mostly, but... nothing really different from his previous works. I heard the same motif as used in Hostiles and Morgan and probably elsewhere again and again... Nonetheless, enjoyed the movie itself immensely.From Deuscthe Grammophon.<br><br>BTW, i expect the Max Ritcher soundtrack
@MrZimmerFan Ok, thank you for the update about the full soundtrack next monthfrom Max or Lorne?Expected the full soundtrack next month<br><br>btw...<br>deutsche grammophon release tomorrow a track called "to the stars" from max richteroh man, oh man...<br>let's see what happend tomorrow
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Henry JackmanDominic LewisMatthew MargesonVictor Chaga
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Captain America - The Winter Soldier
Label: Intrada / Hollywood Records
Length: 74'32 (Score: 67'22)
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  1. Lemurian Star (3:06)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  2. Project Insight (1:29)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  3. The Smithsonian (1:36)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  4. An Old Friend (3:05)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  5. Fury (4:07)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Al Clay
  6. The Winter Soldier (6:24)
    Henry Jackman
  7. Fallen (2:51)
    Henry Jackman
  8. Alexander Pierce (2:58)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  9. Taking A Stand (2:07)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  10. Frozen In Time (3:52)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis, Jack Dolman
  11. Hydra (6:46)
    Henry Jackman
  12. Natasha (1:12)
    Henry Jackman
  13. The Causeway (2:41)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  14. Time To Suit Up (2:05)
    Henry Jackman, Jack Dolman
  15. Into The Fray (6:05)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis, Matthew Margeson, Al Clay
  16. Countdown (4:26)
    Henry Jackman
  17. End Of The Line (2:51)
    Henry Jackman
  18. Captain America (9:41)
    Henry Jackman
  19. It's Been A Long, Long Time - Harry James (3:23)
  20. Trouble Man - Marving Gaye (3:47)
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 9 || 2014-03-18 20:00:18
Jeez I can listen that "Captain America" track all day long...

There's a weird touch Jackman has on many scores, adding to very orchestral music some very 1990s electro/dance gimmicks, which is basically Henry's pre score career.


Hector2014-03-18 20:28:44
Hybrid I respect your words, but Jackman only do it well in:

Abraham Lincoln...
Xmen...
Henry 4 (his best).
Turbo, maybe....

But always is so so. Captain America is a big movie and the music is small.

regard..



Ds2014-03-18 20:34:33
All Marvel movies are supposed to be "big movies" but their scores are most of the time insignificant and instantly forgettable. I don't think it's Jackman's fault, it seems more like a trend of the studio. I'd be very surprised if Kevin Feige had any interest/knowledge in music. Because if he had, he would at least try to have a continuity. Come on, they are building a huge, huge superhero universe, but don't even think about keeping some musical elements to make it more cohesive.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-18 23:56:30
@Hybrid: Sounds like you're describing David Arnold, but he can do it without making the score sound boring/earsplitting...

@Hector: What about Puss in Boots, Wreck-it Ralph or Gulliver's Travels? Those are better than any of the scores you listed...

@Ds: Yeah, the Marvel scores haven't been great, but this one is way, way worse than any of the others. Hell, I'd even take Djawadi's Iron Man over Jackman's Winter Soldier. And Doyle's Thor was I thought a genuinely good score, same with Armstrong's Hulk.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-18 23:58:45
Iron Man is an excellent score, the best thing of everything else written for the character (and for its best movie, too...) !

And no, I'm not describing Arnold.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-19 00:22:49
I mean the whole "very orchestral music with some very 1990s dance/electronica" thing. That sounds more to me like David Arnold's Bond scores of the 90s than what Jackman is doing now.

Iron Man is bad. Really limp and weak rock music. Pacific Rim seems to me almost like the score he should have done for IM but couldn't yet.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-19 00:28:45
No you have no idea what I'm talking about, and I know Arnold very well & like him a lot...

And for IM you can still try to persuade yourself, you know, no one is forcing you to listen to any of this anyway. :)

Would be fun to do a cue by cue analysis of IM to understand if you even know what you're talking about... ;)

I don't bother myself listening to stuff I dislike, you should do the same... :)


MacArthur2014-03-19 01:08:46
IM is the one Ramin score I actually like.


Frank2014-03-19 10:29:53
Totally agree with Hybrid. Iron Man 3 was simply BS, both film and music. Tyler's music might be fine if you listen it on a CD but it did not fit the movie at all. And speaking of the movie, it was simply a poor mimic of TDKR and lost the core spirit of Iron Man.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-19 12:15:04
I think Ramin's approach to Iron Man was the right one, i.e. the rock tone really fits, but the execution was lacking. I've heard plenty of really good rock/orchestral music. Iron Man was not.

I'm not going to be able to do a track-by-track analysis because, as you say, I don't really listen to stuff I dislike all that much. :p

Alexander reply Replies: 1 || 2014-03-18 22:20:52
Best music from the film…missing… :(


aniitime2014-03-19 11:41:18
maybe the complete score is on the dvd...like x-man :P

tomPoland reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-19 10:47:50
First 10 minutes of movie poped-up and there is Silvestri theme in it. So why there is none on the album? Even a small portion... a bonus track for f*ck sake!

Music is a let down. Few nice tracks, but the whole score is not coherent as it should be. Wainting for a movie and a complete score.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-18 22:27:20
Maybe it's awesome in the movie, but honestly, I found that theme really boring by itself...

Luffy reply Replies: 1 || 2014-03-18 14:59:15
You do realize that henry has to please the producer / director, these movies are mostly temped to how they should sound which leaves little room for new things, just look at pirates 4, are you gonna say zimmer cant write or those assholes dont want him/ let him,

heck harry gregsom william work was on wolverine was temped to rambo and transformer, the score was not good, but that dosent mean harry is a terrible composer, its those shitty movie executives that force him to write that crap.

That is why animation is great, its more open to ideas.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-18 15:39:46
Even working within the confines of a temp track, a composer worth his salt should be able to produce a good score. That shouldn't always be an excuse.

But you're right about animation. It's why I'm always confused when people wish John Powell would stop doing animated scores. Why? They let him spread his wings and write in a much more expressive and dynamic fashion than most action movies seem willing to allow these days. I'd much rather he just do animated movies than do what Jackman has been doing.

Lambegue reply Replies: 8 || 2014-03-17 20:11:55
Well...I'm a bit disappointed.
I don't think it's really bad, the majority of it is agreable to listen but it's so...Generic... The main theme is nice - not unforgettable, but still nice. Some tracks, such as "Time to Suit Up" or "Captain America", are really enjoyable. Other are interesting because of the mood they create ("The Winter Soldier" mainly). But the remaining is really cold, lacking real emotional power.
But again, it's not a bad listening experience. It's just that Jackman can do so much better...


Lambegue2014-03-17 20:13:41
"Taking a Stand", not "Time to Suit Up"...Sorry for the mistake...


Saurabh2014-03-17 20:22:07
I think Jackman does much better in animation. Most of his live action work is average for me. I liked the new theme and it's full statement in Taking A Stand. Aside from a few tracks, it's another standard RCP stuff.

I think the Cap theme from the good guys vs bad guys clip with the horns is missing. A closely resembling part shows up at the beginning of Lemurian Star.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-17 21:09:40
The quality difference between Jackman's regular action projects and his animated or comedy ones is incredible. It's almost like they're two different composers. I wonder why that is??


Lambegue2014-03-17 22:14:27
Well I think he did a very good job on X-Men first class, and even the kick ass movies have quite a nice score...


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-17 22:17:55
X-Men is the exception (and even there, I'd say the underscore itself is only OK...it's the themes that make it better than average). And note I did say animated OR comedy. Kick-Ass is comedy, sort of.


Lambegue2014-03-17 22:22:08
Oh yes, I missed the "Comedy" in your post.
Maybe there is more pressure coming from the director or the studios on big action projects...


badbu2014-03-18 09:59:53
"Lemurian Star" and "Captain America"! very nice tracks!


Marco2014-03-18 14:59:41
best tracks are: project Insight,the winter soldier,countdown,taking a stand,into the fray,captain america.

Héctor reply Replies: 1 || 2014-03-17 18:20:22
09. Taking a Stand (best track) we need more of it. The other tracks are ambient. Hackman need more food to grow up.

Héctor


jjluffy2014-03-17 18:30:54
Nothing but sound design!!!!!!Jackman disappoints me more.
Where is the soundtrack? true.

Absolute poorness!

Saurabh reply Replies: 3 || 2014-03-17 05:37:12
Not the youtube vid. Bought from Itunes.


MacArthur2014-03-17 06:23:49
Must be a different country than the U.S.


Saurabh2014-03-17 06:55:05
Yep. The movie also releases in many parts of the world earlier than the US. A common trend with Marvel.


MrZimmerFan2014-03-17 09:31:44
In my country (Spain), is in Itunes and Spotify

Saurabh reply Replies: 2 || 2014-03-16 21:40:03
Just listened to it. Lemurian Star is badass and Captain America is ok. The Winter Soldier is an electronic experiment with screeching effects. The highlight for me is Taking A Stand, which ushers the new noble Cap theme in it's full glory. The rest is bland.


Marco2014-03-16 23:43:39
Hi. Where have you heard? Thank you for answer.


Drunkenmunkey2014-03-17 00:06:39
youtube. com/watch?v=D63TFenio-E

Almost 24 minutes of the score. Starts with The Winter Soldier don't know what the other songs are!

Saurabh reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-14 17:21:33
Loved the music in the new Good Guys vs Bad Guys clip. Especially the horns that kick in when Cap runs. Gives a paramilitary/black ops vibe. I think this is part of the new Cap theme.

Saurabh reply Replies: 1 || 2014-03-14 14:40:43
Looks pretty generic. Same old frantic strings.


Ds2014-03-14 15:42:57
"generic" is the very definition of each and every Marvel movie, why would it be any different for the music? It's just the way the studio like their movies...

... reply Replies: 3 || 2014-03-14 07:54:01
Is the music playing before the live premiere in this very long video henry jackman?
youtube.com/watch?v=D63TFenio-E


ed2014-03-14 08:45:55
Yes it is :)


MrZimmerFan2014-03-14 14:56:48
I think that is the Winter Soldier's Theme


...2014-03-14 15:15:15
The music playing during the final part where all the stars get together is freaking epic!

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 7 || 2014-03-13 17:19:27
Jackman said somewhere it will be "thematic, heroic music".

BTW, is it set before or after Iron Man 3?


Lambegue2014-03-13 18:02:09
After. Here's the chronology of phase two :
Iron Man 3 ; six months after "Avengers"
Thor 2 ; One year after "Avengers"
Captain America 2 : Two years after "Avengers"


RealFfingMusic2014-03-13 22:50:14
It's a bit confusing.

And what's the time gap between Avengers 1 & 2?


RealFfingMusic2014-03-13 22:50:15
It's a bit confusing.

And what's the time gap between Avengers 1 & 2?


RealFfingMusic2014-03-13 22:50:19
It's a bit confusing.

And what's the time gap between Avengers 1 & 2?


Mike2014-03-13 22:51:36
Ah, I hate when I accidentally triple post. lol.


Lambegue2014-03-13 22:51:42
I don't think it is known yet...We'll see.


RealFfingMusic2014-03-13 22:53:19
WTF? How did this happen?

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 2 || 2014-03-12 21:12:43
That track of 9 minutes, i like it ;D


Jon2014-03-13 18:58:29
How can you like it when it hasn't been released -_-


MrZimmerFan2014-03-13 19:09:30
I don't listen that track, i like it beacuse the lenght

MacArthur reply Replies: 3 || 2014-03-12 21:56:48
Looking forward to it.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-12 22:03:17
Yeah, me too. The score in the clips doesn't sound great but I have faith in Jackman. Hope to hear a big heroic theme for Captain (even if it's more modern than Silvestri's)!


MrZimmerFan2014-03-12 22:05:27
Don't judge a score trough clips ;)


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-12 23:21:16
Uh...that's why I said that I was looking forward to it and that I have faith in Jackman.

Saurabh reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-11 18:56:27
The pursuit clip music reminded me of JNH's Bourne Legacy. Hope the entire soundtrack doesn't end up like it. Can't wait to hear the winter soldier theme that Henry was talking about. Release the samples already.

Drunkenmunkey reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-11 18:32:36
:D Edmund! Don't make assumptions before you listen to the whole thing!

cody reply Replies: 1 || 2014-03-11 18:21:59
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjewd9KLJJ4#t=11

new clip features a chase with the winter soldier, and its epic!!!


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-11 18:28:10
Music sounds even weaker than in the other clip! :/

Saurabh reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-09 05:56:09
Still no tracklist. And no samples.

trent easton navarro reply Replies: 8 || 2014-03-08 09:40:23
Hopefully this is more X-Men than G.I. Joe


MacArthur2014-03-08 15:51:19
Wonder why they didn't get Alan Silvestri.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-08 16:09:45
Good question. Unfortunately I doubt Jackman will use Silvestri's theme (he'll probably come up with some bullshit excuse about how it's not appropriate anymore because he's not in World War 2...), but I hope he at least comes up with something to match it.


isildur2014-03-08 17:52:31
4 min preview of the movie.
http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNAmjl-pClw


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-08 18:07:07
Music doesn't sound very promising. :/


Frank2014-03-08 19:46:18
I don't think a new style for captain america is a bad thing. According to this preview and the information we already had, this movie is more like the Bourne series rather than some old fashion WWII movies


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-08 20:03:17
A new style isn't necessarily a bad thing. But why THIS style? This sounds as though it could be from any modern action flick. There's nothing that will let it stand out as "Captain America music" to filmgoers. Say what you want about Silvestri's score, at least it was a little bit distinct.


Lambegue2014-03-08 21:11:32
Let's wait until we can hear the full thing. I would be disappointed if this one is not excellent, knowing how good Jackman can be


RealFfingMusic2014-03-09 05:09:22
Nicely put Lambegue.

Drunkenmunkey reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-09 02:03:56
It's mostly based in modern times so the music should be modern! Hopefully he will bring back a rendition of Silvestri's original theme! they used it in thor 2 just fine

569 reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-07 21:31:51
www.filmstarts.de/nachrichten/18483454.html


we can hear anybodyy from the score

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