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It would be great to see someone the people on this site that mock composers having a go at this compatition !!!I am enjoying this soundtrack a lot. Lots of very nice Middle-Eastern instruments and tone colours throughout. Only things that are holding it back from being as good as Uncharted 4 are memorable themes and no real orchestra (just orchestral samples). I understand that not being able to have the score recorded by a real orchestra is not Henry's fault, but it does detract from the overall sound and impact of the music (in a few areas). However, Henry does do a good job using other ambient sounds and pulses to cover up noticeably synthetic parts, which I think works well and is not too much of a distraction. A solid 3.5 / 5 from me.Yes, I knew it! The night isn't full of terrors after all.The Lord of Light is watching over us!Good news guy! It releases this Friday Ramin confirmed on twitter.<br><br>https://twitter.com/Djawadi_Ramin/status/900139465129172992
Does anyone know where you could find the variations on Duck Shoot, specifically the one during the King's death in Episode 2?Wanna go see Hans and/or Lorne ? Here's your chance !This score is growing on me more and more every day :DWill there be CD by La-La Land Records as well?Lol I avoid spoilers at all cost! I checked the ost after the finale last year!
Spoilers ? haha I stopped avoiding them. With al the leaking and people on social media who seem to forget that others are watching it a little bit later than airing time it's impossible to avoid them. They did release it last year in front of the final episode. With Light of the Seven as a big surprise.I'm not sure they'll release the album this Friday already because I guess they're very cautious about spoilers, but it would be stupid if they didn't release it digitally before the 29th of september.<br><br>I'm sure that new theme will be on the OST at least once and I want the creepy Jon Snow variation in episode 6. And the battle version of Light of the Seven when Drogon goes for Bronn in episode 4!That's right, I forgot about the Jon & Daenerys theme. It's beautiful.<br>Hope this will be in thereAny chance the soundtrack will be released this friday ? ;)Where can I get this soundtrack? I need it badly.
Also (to answer the question at the start of this thread) the cover art uses a portion of an unofficial poster by Ruiz BurgosI suspect that the music from the Clint Mansell sessions that ended up getting used in the soundtrack is too intertwined with the final score to separate the cues between the two composers' teams. Check out "The Leap" from Kevin Kiner (it's on his website and also on Youtube), a version of that is in the final score.<br><br>In other words, I don't think there are easily separable "Clint Mansell cues" and "Lorne Balfe cues". There is just one final score.There is a major and beautiful new theme this season! The Jon Snow Denaerys Theme!! It was heard in it's greatest version yet in the end of episode 6!<br>He means he works on many scores these days... :P4 Cues  are not everywhere...lol
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Henry JackmanDominic LewisMatthew MargesonVictor Chaga
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Captain America - The Winter Soldier
Label: Intrada / Hollywood Records
Length: 74'32 (Score: 67'22)
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  1. Lemurian Star (3:06)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  2. Project Insight (1:29)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  3. The Smithsonian (1:36)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  4. An Old Friend (3:05)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  5. Fury (4:07)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Al Clay
  6. The Winter Soldier (6:24)
    Henry Jackman
  7. Fallen (2:51)
    Henry Jackman
  8. Alexander Pierce (2:58)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  9. Taking A Stand (2:07)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  10. Frozen In Time (3:52)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis, Jack Dolman
  11. Hydra (6:46)
    Henry Jackman
  12. Natasha (1:12)
    Henry Jackman
  13. The Causeway (2:41)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  14. Time To Suit Up (2:05)
    Henry Jackman, Jack Dolman
  15. Into The Fray (6:05)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis, Matthew Margeson, Al Clay
  16. Countdown (4:26)
    Henry Jackman
  17. End Of The Line (2:51)
    Henry Jackman
  18. Captain America (9:41)
    Henry Jackman
  19. It's Been A Long, Long Time - Harry James (3:23)
  20. Trouble Man - Marving Gaye (3:47)
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Felix reply Replies: 9 || 2015-10-29 18:05:52
Now I'm listen to the Demos of Captain America: The Winter Soldier 2:

1M2 Pick Up A Fossil
1M3 French Pirates
1M4 Full Pirate Dispatchment
1M5 SHIELD Headquarters
1M6 Impressive Hardware
2M7 Smithsonian
2M8 Peggy
2M9 World Security Council
2M10 Sam's Support Group
2M11A Fury SUV Ambush
2M11B WS Reveal
2M12 Unwanted Apartment Guests
3M13 Don't Do This to Me Nick
3M14 Somebody Murdered My Friend
3M15A Elevator Brew
3M15B Elevator Munch
3M16 Single-Handed Jet Sabotage
3M17 New Set of Orders
3M18 50-Years Old Ghost Story
3M19 Reactivate Project Insight
3M20 Mall Tension
4M21/22 Frozen in Time
4M23A Zola Pt.1
4M23B Zola Pt.2
4M24 Housekeeper Dismissal
4M25 Falcon Wants In
4M26 Zola's Algorithm
5M27 Winter Soldier Causeway Battle
5M28 Best Doctor Ever
5M29 Winter Soldier Reboot
5M30/31 Time to Suit Up
6M32 Cap's Big Speech
6M33A Initiate the Launch
6M33B Rise of the Helicarriers
6M34 Facelift
6M35 Cap & Falcon Make It to Girl
6M36 Winter Soldier Jet Hijack
6M37 Fury & Pierce Face Off
6M38 Cap & WS Standoff
7M40B Target Redirect
7M41 Falcon's Narrow Escape
7M42 Till the End of the Line
7M43A Epilogue Biscuits
7M44 Main On End
7M45 Twin Freaks

131 min Runtime


Anonymous2015-10-29 20:16:19
6M35 Cap & Falcon Make It to **Girl**? Seriously?


Bou2015-10-29 20:32:04
Cool story bro'


Felix2015-10-29 21:20:48
@Anonymous yes it is so, I have it from Disney


Hybrid Soldier2015-10-29 21:30:29
Actually it's Make It To The Grid ! lol


Anonymous2015-10-30 06:37:06
Only at Disney can you turn the word Grid to Girl. haha


Anonymous2015-10-31 06:32:06
Any chance to upload in lossless this reliq?


GR72016-06-07 12:49:02
Ok, so I get the track names "6m37" or "2m12" are production track names, and I noticed that kind of names for many complete score albums.
Can someone explain the meaning of such names, how to understand the letters and numbers.
Thanks


Anonymous2016-06-07 14:49:45
They're called slates. The first number represents the reel that the slate is on. "M" stands for music/cue. The last number represents the number cue on that reel/in the film. So 2m12 = reel 2, cue 12.

The slates are how the composers write the music.


GR72016-06-07 19:52:14
Thank you Anonymous ;)

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 6 || 2015-03-18 16:52:22
I'm surprised that no one talks about the amazing end credits piece. It's basically Cap's new theme Silvestri styled. Wonder why it was left off the album?


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-18 17:03:20
Hybrid's mentioned it a couple times (it's a Dom Lewis arrangement), and you can find it on YouTube. It is by FAR the best cue from this score that I have heard. The only explanations I can think of as to why it isn't on the album are a) it was recorded after the album was pressed, or, more facepalmingly, b) they decided to minimize the orchestral music in favor of the electronica and Winter Soldier-related stuff on album.

Odd, isn't it, that both Silvestri and Jackman's score albums have lacked the best cue from either score. At least Silvestri's (Captain America March) was available on iTunes...


mpolonest1232015-03-18 17:21:36
Huh, that is bizarre, same case with Falcon's theme. Maybe it was a last minute piece (it's honestly the best arrangement of the theme).

It seems that the score in context of the film is all around more orchestral than the album presents itself. Even "Fury" has an interesting insert.


JMason2015-09-21 15:48:32
@Edmund... Where on YouTube can you find it? been searching frantically, still no luck


Edmund Meinerts2015-09-21 16:12:59
Here: https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=1Nrh0n6NIMM


JMason2015-09-21 16:31:25
@Edmund... You are the best bro. Thank you so much!! Exactly what I was looking for. Damn, I love this score.


Mike2016-04-27 01:46:00
Late to this party, but I'm pretty sure the four-note repeating figure in that end credits cue on the trumpet is straight from the Silvestri score (I recall it playing when Steve jumped onto the grenade).

Scarecrow9 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-03-02 16:45:49
Hey Hybrid, do you have any idea or news abour Jackman´s Captain America Civil War score? :-)

bilbo baggins reply Replies: 0 || 2015-09-11 00:24:37
i like hobbit music

Frank reply Replies: 3 || 2015-03-24 02:00:34
So Russo Brothers gonna direct Avengers 3, any chance for Henry to score that film?


...2015-03-24 10:57:32
Possibly...imagine him soing it and Zimmer doing the spidey part of the score!


Scarecrow92015-03-24 15:21:15
I love Jackman's score for Winter Soldier and I can't wait for Civil War, but I think that Infinity War is beyond him. I cant wait for Tyler's Avengers score, and I would really love to see Jablonsky on these films.


Mike2015-03-24 20:20:42
I really hope Henry does not do it, if it will follow the techniques of Winter Soldier... :/

Macarenox reply Replies: 5 || 2015-03-13 16:10:44
I read that soon will be the complete score. Yes, another.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-13 16:26:52
You "read"? Where? Is there some trashy film score tabloid that has all the good dirt on potential complete score leaks that I've never heard of?


Anonymous2015-03-13 16:53:35
Edmund, you are right, This constant posting of alleged "complete scores" by Hybrid is getting ridiculous. These aren't, haven't been nor will they ever be released where we can actually hear them or buy them. I ask Hybrid again,,,, WHAT IS THE POINT???


Anonymous2015-03-13 17:46:05
As far as this site is concerned, they're for information—information about the score, who did what, what all the cues are beyond the album release... Because some people like to know that stuff.


ggctuk2015-03-14 12:03:02
Given how things have been going in this last week alone, I wouldn't say that this will remain hidden for very long. You'll get to hear it soon enough.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-14 12:46:29
Anonymous, I wasn't talking about what Hybrid does on this site - that has a purpose and is based in fact. What I was talking about is the OP's pointless pseudo-cryptic rumormongering. So don't agree with things I haven't even said. :p

Mike reply Replies: 7 || 2014-10-09 15:01:17
I can't believe I'm saying this, but...I no longer find this score terrible. Would it have benefited from more of Silvestri's theme? Without a doubt. Does it sound way too generic and action movie-like, and not really call to mind a comic book superhero? Absolutely. But having seen the film a few times, I feel like despite its heavy flaws it really does work onscreen and carries the film pretty well.

Still, here's hoping Jackman listens to criticism with CA3. ;)


thejok3rrules2014-10-09 15:29:19
Same here. I hated it in the first place, but then I ''forced'' myself to listen to it, and it's quite enjoyable, indeed.


Felix 2014-10-09 17:41:10
I love them from the first time!


Edmund Meinerts2014-10-09 19:38:21
The score isn't terrible in the movie, I'll admit (although "it works in the movie" is the same excuse used to defend every single bad score).

The one moment in the film where I felt like the score DID fail - utterly - is the mid-credits scene, with (spoilers?) the Winter Soldier at the Smithsonian reading about his past. That seemed like a moment where he was gaining back a shred of his humanity, but it's just scored with more electronic screeching. In general, Jackman's Winter Soldier theme fails not because it sounds like nails on a chalkboard (Zimmer's Joker theme does too and that works perfectly), but because it completely neglects the Bucky half of his character. The Winter Soldier isn't an agent of chaos like the Joker. He's a once-noble human being who's been transformed against his will into a weapon. The theme covers the weapon part, but ignores the human part.

The rest of the score is just generic drum loops and/or ostinatos that could be from any modern action movie. And a really really basic heroic theme that any RCP guy could have written (if you're going to replace Silvestri's theme, at least replace it with something worthwhile). Yeah, no, I'm still at "terrible" with this one.


Mike2014-10-09 23:05:49
I agree it's really lame outside of the movie. All I'm saying is, having watched the movie a few times now, the score "in context" isn't as awful as I initially thought it was, and a few times (Captain America beating up dudes after infiltrating the ship, the Smithsonian scene, and the Project Insight scene) it was actually mildly enjoyable.

Regarding the mid-credits scene, that could have been an interesting part to go full-on WW2 style (not to a campy or exaggerated extent, but with the same tone as, say, the Smithsonian cue from earlier).

And I do agree about the generic quality of the theme...I was at least hoping the new one would be something more memorable. But again, I'm simply saying that in context, it could have been a lot worse. :P And it appears Brian Tyler will be using the Silvestri theme in his Avengers 2 score, so there's some good news.


Mike2014-10-09 23:15:50
(I actually must say, I REALLY like the Smithsonian cue....every time I hear it I think of how much potential the score could have had if that cue's tone were employed more.)


Anonymous2015-01-31 19:21:59
And I can't help but wonder how great this score would have been if all the tracks had been as strong as 'Taking a Stand'! This one is truly epic.


Anonymous2015-02-24 09:18:33
Was "Taking A Stand" used anywhere in the movie besides the credits roll intro?

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2014-09-02 00:20:11
If only Henry had modeled his new theme off the style of the Smithsonian cue....AND kept Silvestri's theme more often. :( I get wanting to make a more modern score but they could definitely have used the other theme's notes in a modern style.


Mike2014-09-02 00:23:04
I agree. Wanna make a modern score? Fine. But the first movie's theme could have been worked in somehow, beyond just the opening scene. The score is serviceable; I don't hate it. But it could have been so much better IMO.


Anonymous2014-09-16 00:10:31
I will say the music was really cool along with the ship scene, as Cap was running around and taking guys down a-la post-Conviction Sam Fisher :P

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2014-09-14 00:09:28
If Hans Zimmer were to score a film for Captain America (not saying I'd want that, lol), what do you think it would sound like? Closer to Man of Steel or Spider-Man (I doubt he would make him sound like Batman)? Or would he do something totally unexpected in order to be original? I'm guessing the last one.


Adam2014-09-14 03:13:01
Similar to TASM2. Epic horns and trumpets. Better Zimmer than Jackman, Winter Soldier's score was appalling

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-09-12 02:05:04
Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, but Brian Tyler supposedly said that his Avengers 2 score was going to reference the scores for Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America. Some Marvel thematic continuity finally? And which Captain America will he use, Jackman's or Silvestri's? Presumably Silvestri's, but maybe Jackman's too. And I assume he means his own Iron Man and Thor themes. :P Exciting news anyway! :D


Mike2014-09-12 02:07:06
That IS exciting...It might mean that there will finally be lasting themes for the various characters in this universe. I wonder whether he'll use Silvestri's Avengers theme or not.

Thomas reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-30 03:31:57
Does Anyone know the chronological Order of this Album


Mike2014-08-30 03:33:46
It appears not. :P


Thomas2014-08-30 05:13:27
What you mean It Appears Not

Drunkenmunkey reply Replies: 1 || 2014-02-19 21:53:54
Wooooo! Perfect choice for this movie!


Thomas2014-08-29 16:20:59
Does anyone know the chronological order of this soundtrack?

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-08-29 16:05:25
Hope Henry uses more of Silvestri's theme in Cap 3 than he did here....

Kardo reply Replies: 0 || 2014-08-29 06:17:29
Where is the other part of "The Causeway" when they're on the over pass and Flacon and Cap are fight the Winter Soldier's goons?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-07-29 21:32:05
is the silvestri theme used anywhere besides the opening running scene?

Saurabh reply Replies: 3 || 2014-04-05 09:10:42
Been hearing a lot of positive stuff about the end credits music. Which of the cues on the soundtrack form this part? Or is it different version of any cue in the official release?


Brent2014-04-05 20:19:54
The first part of the credits (the main sequence) is "Taking a Stand" from the album. The rest of the credits is a suite of the film's themes not provided on album.


Hybrid Soldier2014-04-05 20:20:55
Yep done by Dom Lewis... :(


MK12014-04-20 04:15:39
What determines a Recording Sessions can out? TRON Legacy RS for example had many tracks that were not on the main CD, like the music at the beginning with Flynn and Sam.

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2014-04-05 21:01:19
I love this movie! The Winter Soldier is an unstoppable killer and i saw an Steve Rogers more powerful. The action is brutal with very emotional times. The music works very well.
This is one of my favorites soundtracks.

... reply Replies: 2 || 2014-04-02 21:06:43
Is it only me or is this album really bad?

The music in the movie is awesome while I think that the album is badly put together, even though I rather like the OST...



Hector2014-04-03 02:01:38
You are right a lot. The album is horrible, but the music on the movie is excelent. Is strange and stupid. The recording sessions will be sure better than the OST.


Lambegue2014-04-04 13:29:55
It works well in the movie. But still, i'm disappointed (even if I don't hate it)

Brent reply Replies: 0 || 2014-04-04 11:23:39
When seeing the film, stay for the credits just to listen to Jackman's score. The suite that plays during those credits is amazing! It's a pretty fantastic blend of Jackman and Silvestri. Why that's not on the album, I have no idea...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2014-03-27 20:28:51
I added the credits for this infamous score... :)


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-27 22:07:04
Thanks. Seems like Dom Lewis was involved with most of the score's better parts, except for that last track.

Hector reply Replies: 15 || 2014-03-26 14:55:37
I listened all the score. The heroic theme is very nice. Maybe if Jackman replace in the near future, electronic noises for percussions, the scores will be great. Is only my idea, but hope than he will listen it.


Saurabh2014-03-26 16:58:41
Jackman won't be doing the next one.


Mike2014-03-26 18:28:21
It's probably be Brian Tyler.....He's taking over the Marvel universe at the same rate Zimmer is taking over comic book scores as whole....lol


Mike2014-03-26 18:31:51
gonna* be


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-26 18:40:58
And you know this how?


Saurabh2014-03-26 18:45:27
Yeah. Tyler has a good rapport with Marvel. I can see him handling most, if not all of their future projects.


Lambegue2014-03-26 20:57:16
That's not a problem to me, I like what he did on Thor and Iron Man 3.


Saurabh2014-03-26 22:30:48
I loved Tyler's themes for IM, Mandarin, Thor and Loki. I find the Mandarin theme quite funny even though it's serious thanks to the context. It will be interesting to see how he ties up all these themes while introducing new ones ( hopefully for Cap) in the next Avengers.


Brent2014-03-27 06:41:40
We seriously don't know who will be doing Cap 3. It could very well be Jackman... the Russos are returning to direct after all.


...2014-03-27 07:50:01
Hackman should return. Even though the pet is a bit weird, the score works really well in the movie and of course there's missing music...

Btw, the Silverstein theme is used once in the first scene.


...2014-03-27 10:03:06
Jackman i mean...


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-27 11:53:35
And Silvestri you mean.


...2014-03-27 13:41:35
Lol yes. Damn auto correction...


isildur2014-03-27 16:57:32
If Tyler does return to Marvel again, I sincerely hope he writes new themes which are not just variation of Iron Man 3's theme.


RealFfingMusic2014-03-27 19:30:37
Agreed.


Nemanja2014-03-27 21:05:24
Brian Tyler returns for "Avengers: Age of Ultron". It has been confirmed :)

Adrian reply Replies: 8 || 2014-03-22 08:11:58
Best track for me is "Captain America"... epic


cody2014-03-22 14:59:18
The Winter Soldier is the best track for me!!!

it fits the character pefectly!!


Adrian2014-03-23 07:54:20
Yes my friend, it fits perfectly :)


MK12014-03-23 14:23:02
Track 06 "The Winter Soldier" is my favorite too. Intro is brutal and produces limitless euphoria. A perfect destruction track, is AWESOME.

My congrats to Henry Jackman, I love this score.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-23 14:37:05
I find it fascinating how anyone could enjoy that collection of screeching noise. Bizarre.


Lambegue2014-03-23 15:01:34
It's an interesting track IMO. I won't say that I completly enjoy it, but it seems to fit the character rather correctly. It's efficient, even if nothing near from excellent...


MK12014-03-23 21:18:25
xDDDD

For "noise" listen Devil May Cry 5 soundtrack by Noisia, is terrible.

Concentration. Imagine yourself being Winter Soldier while the track is playing. Imagine you have superhuman might with bionic-arm.

Really, listening this soundtrack I'm feeling powerful, drums are simply amazing.

(Sorry if I make grammar errors, I'm not native speaker)


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-23 21:46:56
If I was the Winter Soldier I'd be insulted that I didn't get better musical representation, or else ashamed that I apparently wasn't able to inspire it. I want to feel like as much of a badass as Darth Vader does when he walks around to the tune of the Imperial March. THAT's a villain theme. Not something that sounds like a distorted screaming kid.


MK12014-03-23 22:12:04
Well, at the end everyone to his own taste. I personally don't usually like this kind of music (in the case above, Devil May Cry 5, for example, I hated the score), it's a type of music that causes headaches, but with the tracklist of "The Winter Soldier" for me is different, it's not just noise, makes an electronic tones mixed with symphonic.

Maybe it's because I have seen the trailer many times and I had already formed an idea of a metallic and percussive tone regarding the "brutality" appearance of the character, I can't imagine Bucky in the middle of the action with a "The First Avenger" track, it's not for him, Winter Soldier requires a new darkest tune like "Fury", "Taking A Stand", "The Causeway" or "Countdown".

After all are perspectives. All in this life are perspectives.

Saurabh reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-23 15:31:21
It may fit the character, but it's an assault on the ears. I listened to it just once. I thought Why So Serious was extreme oveload on the ears, but this is Trent Reznor level of twisted music/noise.

... reply Replies: 2 || 2014-03-23 12:28:31
Cap 3 will be called Captain america the hybrid soldier lol


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-23 12:37:52
You have no idea ! :)


...2014-03-23 13:47:11
Lol!

Brent reply Replies: 12 || 2014-03-20 06:15:21
Am I the only one who got any enjoyment from this score? Sure, the main theme is highly generic (I'm just glad Jackman used parts of Silvestri's theme in the film) and there are cues on the album that are downright awful (Fury and Hydra). However, there are many bright spots that I have enjoyed listening to over and over again (Smithsonian, Taking a Stand, End of Line, Captain America). If anything, I feel it's more "Oblivion" than "Tron".


Saurabh2014-03-20 08:35:30
You're not alone. The generic main theme has grown over me. Especially in Lemurian Star, Taking a Stand. But the thing I hate about the release is that you have some good tracks (ones you mentioned), but the awful ones distract the attention from those few good ones and dampen the listening experience.

And I don't think it deserves the kind of hatred it's getting. Is it underwhelming? Definitely yes. But outright garbage? Nope. This kind of reaction is outright garbage.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-20 11:13:18
There's maybe ten minutes of three-star material in here. That's it. So no, it's not ENTIRELY devoid of redeeming features...but when that's pretty much the nicest thing I can say about a score for a $150+ million blockbuster, something must have gone wrong somewhere.

Last year, Jackman did a score where he took over from Silvestri. That was bad. He did a score about a captain. That was bad. I guess it follows that when you put the two together, what comes out is even worse.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-20 11:30:00
You're not alone I've listened this score constantly in the past 3 days and totally dig it...

And I'll add some who did what soon, have to deceipher one of the composers first, but I have almost all... :)


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-20 12:17:12
And btw the stupid reviewers telling the score lacks continuity : Silvestri's theme is in the score... It's just not on the OST (probably for legal reasons)...


But once again we're back at my initial point, you have big mouth reviewing CDs instead of reviewing SCORES (and who generally have no idea about the film itself)...


tomPoland2014-03-20 13:53:15
Marvel needs someone to take control over their music. So we would have continuity in their projects.

Let's hope it will be Brian Tyler who's been announced to score Avengers 2 :)


Ds2014-03-20 15:04:41
Hybrid, this page concerns the official soundtrack release of "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" by Henry Jackman, and yet we cannot give our opinion about it? Are we supposed to wait until we've seen the movie and then only speak about the score as heard in the movie? Come on, you're being ridiculous.


Anonymous2014-03-20 17:30:31
I think this album on the whole would have been somewhat better had the Silvestri theme been put on it....


trent easton navarro2014-03-20 22:20:28
Haven't you heard Ds, we aren't allowed to say anything negative about Zimmer and the other composers at RC. That's Hybrid's first law here. Break it and he'll throw a tantrum ;)


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-20 23:02:56
Ds you misunderstood, I'm talking about people telling about the "current state" of film scoring giving their "final truth" on a score they haven't FULLY heard and out of context...

Then, I don't care, I don't want the scores to be liked, and I don't care about anyone's opinion but mine...

You all hate everything ? Fine, dig up some vinyls and enjoy yourselves. But don't try to act like your opinions matter.

I have never ever posted a score review on H-Z.com, and I never will, this place is not for that... I am not payed for this, and I don't have a gun on my head forcing me to do or like anything. I defend these people, which are mostly the coolests, because I simply love their music. Just for the fun of it. For more than 6 years. As simple as that.

If that upsets you, if RCP, Hans, & their current scores upset you, just go vomit somewhere else, there are so many places eagerly waiting to welcome you, where you can praise your love for OTHER kinds of film scoring & trash RCP. Filmtracks, MainTitles, FSM... & I don't know what shit, you have plenty of room !

But you know what ? Most of these places, they wish they had H-Z.com's traffic...


Ds2014-03-20 23:26:01
Hybrid, I really agree with you. But on the other hand this is a forum board, it is meant to allow people to post their opinion, their enthusiasm, their disappointment...

And from what I've read on this particular page, most people are just giving their opinion about this soundtrack album - because nobody has seen the movie yet. They have the right to tell they are disappointed, they expected better for this soundtrack.

Btw RCP doesn't upset me, they produce my favourite kind of music and I listen to it all day long.


Lambegue2014-03-21 10:08:46
Hybrid, It's precisely because we all love RCP here that we can be disappointed by some scores coming from them...We always expect a lot from Zimmer, Jackman, Gregson-Williams, Powell and all of them...Nobody says that his own opinion is an absolute truth, but as RCP lovers, everyone can say when he is disappointed and when his "great expectations" aren't fullfilled...


RealFfingMusic2014-03-22 06:18:09
As Ds and Lambegue stated above, all of us here love RCP. That's why we constantly expect a lot from everybody. RCP set our bar so high, (and they're still raising it) that we always want much greater and a lot more spellbinding scores, and we're dissapointed whenever we listen to a score less than 5-10 times a day.

They are they best, and they're getting better ;)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-20 18:42:51
I haven't seen the movie, so how often do we hear the silvestri theme in there?

Macejko reply Replies: 10 || 2014-03-19 15:45:08
Does anyone else have a feeling that this was heavily temped with TRON: Legacy?


MEOW2014-03-19 16:50:14
However it was temped, it's just so boring and void of any life or true thematic material and interesting orchestration. Jackman has the ability to do some very good stuff, however he hasn't done anything that I want to revisit. Puss In Boots is the only score from him I have listened to more then once. There's this composer named Zaalen Tallis i've been following for a while now and he has that old school RCP sound, but more orchestral, kick-ass themes and really cool orchestrations and I can just imagine what he could write if given the chance to score a big hollywood film... You should listen to his stuff on soundcloud and you'll get way more enjoyment out of listening to his stuff then the last few years of scores by RCP composers.

https://soundcloud.com/search?q=zaalen%20tallis

I cannot wait for Spiderman as I think it will be an awsome thematic throwback to Zimmer's writing of the 90s.. I hope so!



Hybrid Soldier2014-03-19 17:02:54
What a lame attempt to do some (self ?) promotion... lol


MEOW2014-03-19 17:16:18
Hybrid, you should be positive about people finding cool tunes that they feel are worth checking out and you shouldn't be so quick to say something offensive about a fellow person trying to make it. I'm sorry for being a lame fan and helping share someone's good music.

You have to admit that these last couple years, a part from Zimmer's Batman trilogy which is friggen brilliant has been quite disappointing? Anyway each to their own and its great by yourself Hybrid and the others who run such a cool site to make it possible for people to voice opinions on here and I suggest to everyone if you hear something that RCP fans or any score fan might like, share it!

PEACE! :D


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-19 17:28:12
I'll never admit that because I basically think the opposite, you have no idea how many times I have listened to MOS & Rush...


Ds2014-03-19 17:47:34
MEOW, thanks for sharing. I think it's great to share music that's similar to RCP, because if there's one place where people might enjoy it, it's here.

But for the rest I think Hybrid is right, there were a lot of insanely good RCP scores in the last few years.


MEOW2014-03-19 17:50:23
Well yes Zimmer stuff... Rush is fantastic, The Lone Ranger is so much fun and MOS for me has moments of Zimmer greatness but not his best by a long shot. The score itself in MOS the film are so much better than what made it on album and hopefully we can get our hands on them soon. I previously should have said that the guys Mr. Zimmer is giving a chance to make a name for themselves aren't delivering and their music and talent is just becoming so stale and it's tarnishing Zimmer's scores when they come out. Junkie XL's 300 has some cool parts though, Divergent I'm yet to hear except for the opening cue you posted and that sounds quite good. But Captain America, Ender's Game, The Lone Survivor, Battleship... I want these guys to do really well, but I feel they need to find their own true voice. They all just sound the same and write the same. Zimmer's early crew who he helped - HGW, JP and MAncina all had distinct styles and sound and I think thats the missing recipe for these new guys... That flavor that's all their own. Sorry to ramble on a bit Hybrid but I'm just so passionate about films and film music and I want these guys to succeed and be remembered, not just heard and forgotten. Thanks for the chance to share with you Hybrid.


MacArthur2014-03-19 17:56:21
MEOW are you kidding Ender's game was fantastic and Lone Survivor was great. Battle ship I really liked as well what are you talking about, those are all great scores. This one I'm liking as well.


MEOW2014-03-19 18:16:36
McArthur, I'm happy you enjoy them but for me they are just all the same with very undeveloped themes and they suffer from not having a unique sound from one another and the orchestration is all exactly the same and very uninteresting. I'm a huge fan of old school RCP and when you listen to the 90s and early 2000s, that RCP stuff leaves this new era of RCP scores for dead! However Beyond Two Souls was one of my favorite scores of last year along with Game of Thrones S3. I'm just hoping Spidey blows us away and so far I'm loving the little snippet we have been lucky enough to hear. :D


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-19 18:40:10
MacArthur demonstrating his stunningly low standards once again.


Man Well2014-03-19 23:26:52
There should be a newspaper comic dedicated to the conversations between MacArthur and Edmund.

Duderguymannameperson reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-19 23:10:04
I guess someone really wanted Captain America to be an anti-hero... this theme is not even close to the power of Silvestri's. Shame.

Macejko reply Replies: 3 || 2014-03-18 19:48:12
Oh man, I think this might be one of the most boring RCP scores I've ever heard. I only listened to it once and will certainly give it another try (just in case it could grow on me), but after this first listen I am honestly shocked how bland it is. Like, "Trevor Morris kind of" bland.


Hector2014-03-18 19:51:42
Please Jackman, replace your brain for a chimp brain, and sure your music will be great.
I try to listen it all again and is horrible. Zimmer, Remote control is out of control with this kind of people.


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-19 18:41:02
Except Trevor Morris' Olympus Has Fallen was one of last year's best RCP scores...I wish this was a tenth as good.


MEOW2014-03-19 18:53:03
Yer it is such a disappointing score! Totally agree with you guys! Go crank up Centurions of The Moon by that guy Zaalen Tallis on soundcloud I mentioned and imagine it as Captain America's theme... Crank it up! Its so good!!!

Edmund you are right about Olympus Has Fallen - not heard by enough people and definitely one of the best RCP scores last year for sure! Oh there was a little something called orchestration in it... :D

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