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Nope@HybridSoldier <br><br>Hope so. Will see the movie this thursday.Hello everyone! After watching the film I noticed that about half of music that used in film disappeared at sessions or has different arrangement. Why it's not released? What's the reason for this?As always with unused pieces of music. There are always be more interesting. Like with Dark Phoenix.I think what Lorne wrote for the last 30 min of the movie is way better than what ended in the movie... Lorne tried to elevate what was going on on screen, but it was probably too "bold" for the taste of production... They wanted to keep as "kow key" as possible but to me it made the ending of the film fall super flat...
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<br>In the end there isn't that much Lorne in the film (most of the "Moon" reel is Lorne though, that big 4 notes motif appearing during the moon landing and then takeoff). Ironically most of the droning you're all complaining about is not that much Lorne... lol
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<br>I really hope Lorne will put out as much music as possible, even all the unused parts, which are the more interesting ones !
Taking in the movie now after having seen it. The cinematography is brilliant, and there are some interesting concepts that really will have you thinking long after walking out of the theater. Still, I couldn’t help but feel like the film dragged throughout. Coupled with the voiceover the movie has a very ‘Terence Malick-y’, “Thin Red Line” feel throughout.<br><br>I’m definitely not familiar with Max Richter so I can’t comment on what he might have written, but Balfe’s broad-chord style is pretty recognizable throughout. There are also some interesting electronic pieces used throughout, possibly might be Balfe but hard to say as of now. The rest of the music is pretty contemplative, ranging from slow/emotional string pieces to more ambient droning.Well, I heard only Balfe's "Prayer" and Richter's "To the stars"... All I can say is we need to wait for the full release, hear both composers and only then talk about who better coped with this. (and watch the movie of course)<br>I don't think Balfe is a bad composer. He does pretty good as an additional composer but not as a leading (mostly). The only soundtrack that I consider the best to date in his solo career is "M:I-Fallout" and "Assassin's Creed III". (imo)<br>Who knows what will be this time. But for now I like Richter's track more.I'm just waiting for Gemini Man, that (i hope) would be funI love that cue.So I created a page for it, move away from Ghost In The Shell !! :P
I wonder if this track is the one causing consternation: Nils Frahm: 'Says' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwwjy4slI8<br><br>It sounds a bit like what Richter and Balfe could produce, but it is much more artistic than Balfe and much more synth-based than Richter. Frahm is credited for additional music.Not writing negative comments about Balfe for the purpose of writing negative comments - ie. trolling - but for the fact that Balfe does not seem to take film composition seriously. Goldsmith had a similar pace in the 1990s that equates to contemporary Balfe, but he managed to produce fantastic scores like Air Force One in a few weeks (yes, with some help from McNeeely). Balfe simply does not seem to have those skills so he resorts to cliches and drony nonsense. I await to be proven wrong. That Balfe track is not half-bad so I do maintain a general sense of expectation for this.Not any more lame than the Balfe cueLorne says it will be released and insists it’s not a GITS situation.That's been standard in certain cases, though considerably less nowadays with how complicated these situations have become.<br><br>Having heard both tracks posted, both give me little on their own. I'm sure they work better in the context of the film, and we might see better tracks unveiled eventually.
He deserve better.Hans and Lorne like twins. Lorne has a very good personality. I still don't understand why some people are still writing bad comments to Lorne?Probably... lolSo is this how it’s gonna be? Official release for Richter and leaks by Balfe :(Lorne posted a track from Ad Astra on his YouTube channelThank you. And i suppose "Need You Busting My Balls - End Credits" title would correspond to ASCAP "Need You Busting My Balls" + "RUSH END CREDITS", while "Just Married" to "RUSH MAIN ON END"?
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Captain Phillips (Complete Score)
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Length: 78'56
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  1. Muse Assembles His Crew (1:47)
    Henry Jackman
  2. Alabama Leaves Port (2:49)
    Henry Jackman
  3. First Attack (8:43)
    Henry Jackman
  4. Second Attack (8:50)
    Henry Jackman
  5. Standoff In The Bridge (5:13)
    Henry Jackman
  6. Touring The Ship (6:15)
    Henry Jackman
  7. Phillips Enters The Lifeboat (6:28)
    Henry Jackman
  8. USS Bainbridge (1:30)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  9. Ship Not Broke (1:16)
    Henry Jackman
  10. Order From The White House (2:08)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  11. Summon The Seals (0:47)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  12. Bainbridge Arrives (3:19)
    Henry Jackman
  13. Unleash The Ribs (4:42)
    Henry Jackman
  14. I Can't Give Up (1:10)
    Henry Jackman
  15. Skydiving Seals (0:32)
    Henry Jackman
  16. Phillips Jumps In The Water (7:24)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer
  17. Seals Take Command (Part 1 & Part 2) (2:36)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer, Jack Dolman, Al Clay
  18. T-Shirt Delivery (2:30)
    Henry Jackman
  19. Commence The Tow (5:58)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer
  20. Captain Phillips Finale (5:08)
    Henry Jackman, Hans Zimmer
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Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-15 05:55:12
Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 4 || 2014-11-24 03:50:27
Henry and Hans' best complete film score.


Adam2014-11-24 05:52:58
Do they have another "complete film score" together that people are not aware of?


Edmund Meinerts2014-11-24 09:26:51
Henry IV?

(which is a much better score than this one)


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-24 09:36:11
Well doesn't count much since Hans didn't really write anything on that score... lol


Edmund Meinerts2014-11-24 10:16:07
Yeah I know...it was the only thing I could think of. Well, Jackman did work on stuff like Dark Knight and Pirates 3 (which if you're counting those, makes T-Mann036's comment very ridiculous indeed).

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2014-10-22 22:31:58
Hey Hybrid what's with a Front Cover? :D

badbu reply Replies: 2 || 2014-07-08 14:57:26
i want it, i want it! :D

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Edmund Meinerts2014-07-08 18:18:34
That kind of enthusiasm for a generic percussive mess of a score?


RealFfingMusic2014-07-09 13:43:46
He gets erections from "generic percussive mess"-ed scores. What can anyone do about it? (Rhetoric, btw.)

JamesT reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-12 02:15:08
Interesting to see the cue sheet info. I love reading all these thoughts and comments. I'm going to start comparing these involved score compositions to a classic car car that been locked away in a garage from public view and comes rolling out "all shiny again" one day.......you never know what's been going on under the hood :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 13 || 2014-03-11 17:15:02
And here is what the cuesheet says...


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-11 17:30:08
This probably isn't even 100% accurate either...it doesn't include e.g. Jasha Klebe, Lorne Balfe, Matthew Margeson and others who are credited with additionals.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 17:34:15
Of course it's not accurate... It is only interesting for Hans' involvement which is right, but it surely misses all the rest lol...


Lambegue2014-03-11 20:54:27
Yes, very interesting indeed ! Thanks a lot Hybrid


LBF2014-03-11 21:01:46
This all really confusing, Jackman said in an interview with Classic FM that Zimmer didn't write any music for the film.


Lambegue2014-03-11 21:09:48
They wanted to keep it "secret" for some time...Even on this site, the participation of Zimmer wasn't official before several weeks (I think) after the release. So maybe you just heard quite an old interview ?


Edmund Meinerts2014-03-11 21:10:02
I'm sure it's in his contract that he has to say that, LBF... :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 21:15:09
Interviews are made to tell lies, or why would any composer need them ? lol


Mike2014-03-11 21:29:35
So Zimmer did the Time ripoff? :D Interesting! Didn't you say it was Lorne though, Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 21:31:01
Oh I still think it's Lorne, but his name will never appear anyway...

I heard even Lorne dropped in the end and Hans finished alone... LOL


LBF2014-03-11 21:34:01
The interview was conducted just a few weeks ago around the BAFTAs, can't put the link on here, but easy to google it. Just seems a little weird as he flat out denies Zimmer being involved at all.


Hybrid Soldier2014-03-11 21:47:59
Simply because he never admitted publicly what a mess (and a true nightmare) this film & score was !

And when you get nominated for stuff, you shut the hell up...


In private, on the contrary... lol


Lambegue2014-03-11 21:54:29
Was it the director who asks Zimmer to come and write some stuff, or was it Jackman who asked for help ?


isildur2014-03-11 22:36:19
Scene when the BAFTA announced their nominations:

BAFTA : Captain Philiphs nominated for Original Score

Me and Everyone: Haw Haw! :D

Mike reply Replies: 14 || 2014-01-28 04:08:25
I just saw the film. I swear that those last 20 seconds before the credits, as it showed the ships and got all loud and Journey to the Line-esque, were directly from Time. I couldn't tell whether the OST track "Safe Now" cut the cue short or if the mix was slightly different within the film, but if I didn't see a complete and total resemblance to Time before (and Journey to the Line, too), I do now.

And I find it funny that Hybrid says the score was such a mess and the director was such a pain when the score really wasn't even that good. It was serviceable enough in context, but the only music I remember was a bunch of loud WAAAAAAAAAHs for suspense, a Bourne ripoff as the pirates first boarded the Alabama, and of course, the near-carbon copy of Time. It seems like if the director was gonna be such a pain, he wouldn't have settled for the score he got.


MacArthur2014-01-28 16:54:48
I thought the score was great.


Mike2014-01-28 17:47:27
I'll admit I was moved at the end there, but that was primarily because of Tom Hanks' awesome acting, not the music primarily.


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-28 20:51:00
What is so great about this score, MacArthur? Seriously. A bunch of limp action cues that are like Green Zone/Bourne with 10% the energy, and then a Time ripoff with about 10% the emotion. I fail to see what even a hardened Zimmer fanboy such as yourself could find to like in that score. It is, at BEST, serviceable, and nothing more.


MacArthur2014-01-28 21:34:12
Agreed Tom hanks was fantastic. and the score was actually entertaining for the film. the pulsing drum cues for the pirates. the theme for the navy. it was very good and moved the story well. that's all one can ask for. and it was (If you can get past Safe Now) a good action score.


NM2014-01-29 01:46:22
Generic city.

The score was the only bad thing about the film and actively distracted me at at least two points (one of which was the end). A lot of scenes were made to feel more like generic action scenes because of the music, and some of the ethnic sounds haven't been fresh since the 90's. A pity such a great film got a temp-track nightmare.


Mike2014-01-29 03:08:08
Well said, NM.


MacArthur2014-01-29 03:43:59
Ok. I still like the film & the music, to each his own I guess.


Mike2014-01-30 03:29:16
Didn't this film also use part of John Powell's United 93 score?


Russel2014-01-30 03:46:27
You like every film score it seems, MacArthur. Haha.


MacArthur2014-01-30 05:12:05
Not all Social Network sucks. Not a huge fan of the Lion King.


AG2014-01-30 09:30:33
Honestly I don't see what all the fuss is about this "Safe Now" track. I just watched the film and it worked beautifully in the scene and I was very moved. Isn't that what the score is meant to do - enhance what's on the screen? So shouldn't we be less concerned about its resemblance to other of Hans' tracks and focus on how it worked in the film? I don't know, just my opinion.


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-30 12:51:07
By that logic, AG, we wouldn't have to write film scores anymore...just create a huge library of cues labeled "action" "drama" "tragedy" "romance" or whatever and cut and paste them into every single movie. Sure, it would work on a basic level. But then the films wouldn't have an individual sound to them. And that's why "Safe Now" is such a weak cue. Because instead of supporting the visuals it makes me wonder where Captain Phillips' totem is and whether he's in a dream or not.


MacArthur2014-01-30 16:11:49
I don't have a problem with it at all. The logic there wasn't bad AG because there were different cues in the film which were good. just Safe now was the only thing that was really close to Time. I don't mind it, but apparently everyone else does.


Rob2014-02-25 00:09:08
I noticed too that the last shots were scored to music that nearly exactly mimicked Time from Inception. Then I saw Hans Zimmer in the "Thank You's" at the end of the credits. I wonder how that came about. Perhaps he asked Hans's permission? It took me out of the movie a bit, but it was the end and I suspect only film music buffs would notice.

Russel reply Replies: 8 || 2014-01-26 02:02:49
This one's great. :)


badbu2014-01-26 10:55:58
oh, very nice! :)


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-26 12:43:34
Hm. This score was boring enough on the original release, can't see how a complete score will change things...


Mortifer V.2014-01-26 14:36:47
exactly what I was thinking, Edmund.


MacArthur2014-01-26 17:35:07
I like it.


MrZimmerFan2014-01-26 17:57:59
I have mixed feelings about this, i like certain tracks like Second Attack (i know, there is temp samples of Bourne action-strings, but is so adrenalitic), in the other side, isn't much


Scorefan2014-01-26 20:03:55
So, this version only has jackman cues or zimmer and balfe additional cues?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 21:10:27
It's the finale score...

Obviously the Finale is arranged here by Lorne Balfe, actually...


Anonymous2014-01-28 18:23:12
What was that in response to, hybrid soldier?

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