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Excited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.
Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?I love the score. It is action packed and to the point.<br><br>I saw his orchestra clips as well but I wonder why he actually spends the money and effort for orchestra when the end product sounds (as usually) 100 percent sample library. All the dynamics of real players are gone in the final mix so why bother with orchestra at all...I'm highly disappointed by the score... Lorne went the very easy way and recycled the MW2 score as well as the Mancina theme in almost every track. Like seriously... the only thing u here is MW2, Main Theme and lot of rustle-synth score. 1/10! No effort went in this score and I dont say that often.
As for Ad Astra, unfortunately i can't hear anything from Ad Astra aswell :/ It's just MW2 mixed with Mancinas themes for me. And the cues from MW2, they aren't just drums, all the guitars, melodies, vibes, even the choir or the voices are included. The above mentioned cues from MW2 are not complete, there are plenty of them, but these will give you the idea of what we've mentioned. Again, i'm not mad, i'm happy that a wider audience can hear these cues, but then again, on MW2 they sounded better and fresher than on the BB3 score (i mean the quality of the recordings - you can hear the cues and instruments more directly. On the BB3 score it sounds like being in a bathroom hearing to the MW2 score). And as i said earlier, i would like to understand or know what Lorne thought about using all these cues. Time pressure? Unused opportunity for a wider audience? And then again that synth-sound even using a real orchestra :/@ Mr Tweedy:<br><br>MW2 has hundred of cues, which has all the special atmosphere and sound-effects, but try listen to these cues to understand what i and others mean:<br><br>- Guerilla Tactics <br>- Guerilla<br>- Contingency<br>- Breach<br>- Retreat and Reveille<br><br>Funny thing, play the cue "Guerilla Tactics" from MW2 and let Shazam try to find out what track that is. It shows me as "Lorne Balfe - We're Dangerous People" from BB3 :DI really like this score!<br>Sure he used Mancina's Theme, that's allright cool, I don't hear anything similar to Ad Astra....don't know why somebody compare this score with Ad Astra....<br>That MW2 sounds are very great, he don't copy himself, he just used the Drums, what's definitely be OK!!<br><br>I don't know why people always want to compare scores....Everybody use his own Temp Music sometimes, that's normal!Please could you give me the exact name of the track from MW2 that is used in BB3? I’d like to compare both!I love Lorne´s music and all, but I am genuinely wondering, why they decided to re-use MW2 so much in the score
as for the drums, yes, i would understand. but the orchestra? you're recording the strings from a real orchestra, so why the downgrade in sound-quality?Because that parts are sampled drums and there are no real?i don't know what to think about the use of mw2. i mean, i love his work for mw2, it's TOO good to be just a score for a game, a wider audience should hear this, so i'm kind of happy to hear some parts of it here. BUT somehow, it's kind of a lazy move just to copy that 1:1. some cues are untouched and some cues are layered with some themes of mancina. i would be interested to know what was he thinking while doing this? <br><br>i followed his video uploads on his social media channels, where he showed some snippets of the orchestra and i truly loved that. but while hearing at the score, i'm dissappointed to hear the quality as it sounds like synth. i mean that typically Balfe synth sound quality. if he uses truly orchestra, than it's a shame and pitty that it sounds like synths in the end. he needs a better recording or mixing or whatever to get rid of that synth-quality-design and having the true-orchestra feelingMancina's theme + Ad Astra + MW:2= Bad boys for Life.Please enlighten me on how Bad Boys 3 sounds the same as Lego Batman or Genius: Picasso
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Dominic LewisBeth CaucciMatthew MargesonSteven Kofsky
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Free Birds
Label: Relativity Music Group (Digital Download Only)
Length: 64'44 (Score: 58'15)
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  1. Up Around The Bend - Social Distortion (3:22)
  2. Starry Side Up (0:42)
    Dominic Lewis
  3. All The Trimmings (0:44)
    Dominic Lewis
  4. Turkatory (2:50)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  5. Poultry Pardon (2:18)
    Dominic Lewis
  6. El Solo Pavo (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  7. Turknapped (1:22)
    Dominic Lewis
  8. Shell Shocked (2:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  9. Secret Military Baster (1:56)
    Dominic Lewis
  10. Cranberry Saucer (4:16)
    Dominic Lewis
  11. Eggs-istential Crisis (0:30)
    Dominic Lewis
  12. Killing Two Birds With One Standish (0:52)
    Dominic Lewis
  13. Fly Or Get Stuffed (1:51)
    Dominic Lewis
  14. School Of Flock (2:38)
    Dominic Lewis
  15. Roast This! (1:00)
    Dominic Lewis
  16. Tryptophan Traps (0:31)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  17. Jive Turkey (1:07)
    Dominic Lewis
  18. Lazy Eye View (1:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  19. Birds Of A Feather (1:10)
    Dominic Lewis
  20. Great Egg-scape (2:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  21. Hold On To Your Giblets (4:56)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  22. The Right Stuffing (0:39)
    Dominic Lewis
  23. Fowl Play (5:23)
    Dominic Lewis
  24. Laid To Rest (3:01)
    Dominic Lewis
  25. Cold Turkey (3:54)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  26. The Great Turkey (1:20)
    Dominic Lewis, Beth Caucci
  27. Iratus Aves (3:48)
    Dominic Lewis
  28. Ocellata Turkeys (3:19)
    Dominic Lewis
  29. Back In Time - MattyB Raps (3:07)
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 9 || 2014-10-20 01:45:29
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I just noticed under Dom Lewis' composer page a cue from X-Men: Days of Future Past. That's really interesting, especially considering the ghostwriting rumors that have always surrounded John Ottman. I wonder how that happened?


Adam2014-10-20 04:21:44
You're right, Edmund! It seems to be the first half of "Do What You Were Made For". Thanks for pointing this out.


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 08:56:45
I found this at BMI, surprising indeed... He just helped out for a week on it, working on a couple of cues, which then got rearranged by Ottman...


Adam2014-10-20 16:23:16
Cool, hanks for that info Hybrid! Do you know if there's any other credits?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 16:34:14
For Days of Future Past ?

From what I saw yeah looks like the additionals are getting royalties lol... But just go to BMI.com, the repertoire search section, search Ottman John V, and have fun...


Adam2014-10-20 18:39:14
Ya I found a bunch! Thanks! :D


polob2014-10-20 22:44:32
and how we can hear the tracks from BMI ?


Hybrid Soldier2014-10-20 23:43:35
You can't it's just cue sheets... not cues... lol


Adam2014-10-20 23:45:31
polob, you don't need to anyway! Every track on the OST is listed on BMI :)


polob2014-10-22 23:27:19
and how Hybrid can have the cue??

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 6 || 2014-05-15 15:57:24
Has anyone noticed how much the main theme of this sounds like the Jade theme from The Rock? Just listen to "Ocellata Turkeys" - it sounds exactly like "Jade" if orchestrated by John Powell.


Mike2014-05-15 16:18:16
Wow. You're right! That's really funny.


Mike2014-05-15 16:22:28
Things like this make me wonder why Hans Zimmer got accused of plagiarism with the Gladiator Waltz, while stuff like this, much more blatant, are able to slide by undetected. Maybe it's because Zimmer is more popular than Lewis, but it's weird either way (or another example is the Luke and Leia theme from National Treasure 2....lol).


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 16:39:09
Maybe it's because the Gladiator Waltz is a lengthy piece that's clearly written in the style of Holst, whereas this cue has a melodic similarity, but a very different "feel" to it.

I think the Gladiator/Holst thing is a little overblown, though. Sure, the similarity is there, but it's not exactly lawsuit-worthy...


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 17:11:56
Yeah just like Broken Arrow and that Edelman thing was no lawsuit-worthy either... But it nearly happened...

Anyway the Jade thing is real but you know, it's not like it's intentional, yeah the melody is the same but 2 composers can come up with the suite of notes, can't they ? :P


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-15 17:44:55
Did Edelman have issues when that theme popped up again in Pirates of the Caribbean? :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-15 18:57:31
If you ask me Edelman can go f... himself big time ! ;)

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2014-01-25 13:54:29
Sorry to be such a nitpicker, but if Beth Caucci is only credited for "additional arrangements," what does that mean for the cues where she's credited? Did she do any actual composing?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 16:23:34
The cues are Dom... She just added some things to it (string sections, percs, whatever)...


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-25 20:23:04
Ah, okay. So if I understand it correctly, the "architecture" of the cues is pure Dom, but some of the embellishments/orchestrations/whatever are put in by Beth. All right. I think I'll go with a 75%/25% split then (don't ask...my ratings system is ridiculous and it's the reason why I ask all these questions).

Fun score by the way! Helps make up for Powell's absence. Although the theme makes me think of The Rock ("Jade")...


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-25 21:01:09
Actually such a rating system does exist in cue sheet to determine royalties !

I've seen it very rarely but for instance some Wreck-It Ralph cues, which are Jackman 75% Lewis 25% or whatever...


Mike2014-01-26 16:25:38
Really? What other RCP scores have those? That could be interesting to know for folks like MacArthur... ;) No offense, MacArthur.


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 16:43:02
Iron Man, partly...


POTC 4, but that's of no use...


Mike2014-01-26 16:44:18
I'm sorry, but why's POTC4's of no use?


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-26 17:13:47
Because it's just HZ / Badelt / Neely / RyG ! ;)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-10-16 19:09:06
First Dom Lewis score, can't wait to hear that ! :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-16 20:06:08
If this score doesn't sound very, very much like John Powell and Henry Jackman I'll be quite surprised. :p


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-17 23:46:28
Samples at amazon.es :
amazon.es/gp/product/B00FWEV72O/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=13 82045759&sr=8-9


Anonymous2013-10-18 06:26:28
Sounds amazing. Can't wait for this. :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-01 00:13:38
Actually, this score REALLY is love child of Powell & Jackman !

95% Orchestral only.


Very nice effort... :)


Frisbee2013-11-04 08:03:37
I concur Hybrid Soldier's statement. Fans of John Powell's works for Blue Sky Animated Studio's movies will certainly be pleased with this. (Personally, I am digging all the wordplay in track titles too!)


Russel2013-12-27 16:33:08
This got a CD Release, finally. I'm very glad to see that it got a release like that. It needed a proper release.

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