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Have any of you seen the "special edition" version of this score? Is it legit or no, theres supposedly a 40 minute suite with it but theres no page for it on this site so I wasn't sure if it was legit. Thanks!
Mr Tweedy
2018-04-10 15:56:22
Sounds like a fan made version.
I don't get why people bother adding a lengthy medley that contain the same content as heard in the score, and claim it's a "special edition".
Hybrid.. I heard that hans stopped an expanded last samurai release from lala-land records... Is that true??? And if its true.. do you know why???
marcorea1
2018-01-04 16:00:08
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. When he was about to sign my LLL broken arrow he flipped (not at me) about the release, saying he hates it when labels do that as he prefers his music the way they were released first time. He still signed it thankfully. Where I can agree with him on most of his OST, there are a small handful of albums that are missing so much. However I wouldn’t even buy a last samurai LLL release as the OST is a great listen as it is. Same with angels and demons. But that’s just me, many people prefer expanded albums and The last samurai would have been nice for those people.
Olive
2018-01-04 16:33:26
I no agree with him. No is fair for the fan no have the access to this stuff because of the direct action of the composer.
badbu
2018-01-04 16:44:13
Hans also don't like this score
Hybrid Soldier
2018-01-04 16:44:43
Yes I can confirm a release was cancelled about 4 years ago. I cannot say why exactly though.
I've been discussing it with Hans & persons of interest to see what can be done to get it released, and I can tell you Hans is not blindly against the idea...
We'll see how all this goes...
Edmund Meinerts
2018-01-04 16:59:34
The fact that Hans has come to dislike this lovely, emotional score while proudly putting his name to stuff like Dunkirk and Inferno is a pretty clear sign of how far apart our paths have drifted over the past several years. :(
Hybrid Soldier
2018-01-04 17:02:12
Wait, in what world Hans doesn't like The Last Samurai ?
That's absolutely not true... Wait for the suite he built himself for the concert "The World of Hans Zimmer" in a few months !
Mephariel
2018-01-04 18:21:09
Hybrid, do you know if there are plans for a CD/Digital audio release of "The World of Hans Zimmer?" I am super excited about this concert.
Hybrid Soldier
2018-01-04 18:25:10
It's pretty early to ask that !!
Mike (OTM)
2018-01-04 20:53:47
This is one of my favorite Hans scores, period, so I'd welcome an expanded release. The OST was solid, though.
As for Hans not liking this score, yeah right. He's talked about it as one of the scores he's actually quite proud of.
Olive
2018-01-04 22:49:39
Yes, especially when we read the 2003 interviews in which he says he even traveled to Japan to do research. Only the trip is reason to love this score.
Mephariel
2018-01-04 23:59:00
Has Zimmer ever talked about King Arthur or Pearl Harbor? I never even hear him briefly mention of those scores.
Olive
2018-01-05 00:13:08
I saw a video of him during the premiere of "Inferno" talking to a reporter about "Pearl Harbor". She said that was her favorite. Hans replied that he and she were the only ones who liked it.
Elsewhere I read that Berstein wrote a letter to him praising "Pearl Harbor."
Anonymous
2018-01-05 00:26:13
Olive:
Elmer Bernstein
Norm
2018-01-05 14:50:58
@Mephariel Go to youtube and search for "hans zimmer making of king arthur". There's a behind the scenes video for the making of the score with Hans.
What is this "Journey Theme" at the end of the track list ?
Evenstar
2013-09-01 18:11:34
yeah also curious about this one
greg
2013-09-01 18:57:58
The Journey theme is probably another take similar to Taken.
sam
2013-09-01 21:07:00
it's a cue that hybrid always posts at an end of a complete score tracklist, just to feel better then others, that he might have something, what others don't have. he's doing that always, so i would even say, that track doesn't exist at all.
Hybrid Soldier
2013-09-01 21:08:53
It is available to everyone, most people are just way to dumb to see the obvious.
lv-426
2013-09-01 21:30:35
To be fair, people just may not know the score as well as you do. It's from the OST, I assume.
Algren
2013-09-02 08:48:28
Wow hybrid, really? Now you also offend people here, chapeau to you!
And calling a track "Journey theme" and putting any track time doesn't make us know which track you mean. And as you're doing this EVERYTIME a complete or a sessions score has been leaked, is just shady from you, just to feel better on your own.
There are always these theme or suite cues from you, which are maybe bad edited and mixed by yourself.
And you should think twice before you're offending here someone!
Instead of being happy that everyone can enjoy this beautiful music by Zimmer, which is our all passion and hobby, you need to act again like a prude chick, which goes totally crazy because someone can enjoy this beautiness too now.
Anonymous
2013-09-02 09:23:31
Well said, Algren. Adding a track and a time does not tell anyone anything. Hybrid's attitude leaves a lot to be desired. He will probably delete these comments, again to make himself feel better.
Tits McGee
2013-09-02 10:30:17
Hybrid, before you delete these comments, I'm sure Hans wouldn't be very pleased if he knew you were the reason that half his scores get leaked in the first place. Then you insult someone on here just asking an innocent question. Take a good look in the mirror. You run a fan site (big whoop-dee-do). It's not like you're getting these scores because you're in the RCP studio with him actually MAKING THE MUSIC (that would require an ounce of creativity wouldn't it? Something your behavior on here says you lack). You're no better than anyone else. It's appalling to see you act so oblivious to your own behavior. So relax for once. Don't be so damn condescending.
greg
2013-09-02 11:43:07
If I were hybrid I would all tell you to f**k off, i'd close the website and would enjoy the music without hearing you all bitching.
jan-lee
2013-09-02 13:04:38
why are you bad calling a person that has done so much for this site and us, one of the main reason i come here is to read his comments and the answers he gets from zimmer and others regarding music, news etc.
Jimmy Idol
2013-09-02 13:08:58
We´re not talking bad about hybrid. but just read, someone posts a simple question, and hybrid just offending everyone here as dumb. who the fuck should know what cue the ¨journey theme¨ is?
Mike
2013-09-02 18:30:35
I think every person here being ridiculous. We don't know what the Journey theme is, Hybrid calls us dumb for not knowing, and we all go crazy. For goodness sakes, do knowing the Journey theme or unnecessary rudeness really matter? Go, find a way to figure out what the Journey theme is, and know that Hybrid will be Hybrid for better or worse. It's not the end of the world.
Mr Tweedy
2013-09-02 19:32:45
You're all free to live this website if you're not happy with its content.
MacArthur
2013-09-02 19:34:21
Agreed!
al bundy
2013-09-02 20:58:35
@Mr Tweedy: I think you mean "leave" not "live".
Jimmer
2013-09-03 13:02:25
While I agree Hybrid seems to be doing with every Complete Score that gets released, in this instance, it's not that hard to figure out. Do you guys not remember when this movie was first released? Think about it, "Journey Theme." What's perhaps Zimmer's most famous cue that has the word "journey" in it? Yeah, "Journey to the Line." And when "The Last Samurai" came out in theaters, what was one of the cues used in the theatrical trailers? Yep, "Journey to the Line"-theme, or a variation of it. This is probably nothing more than a trailer cue, so it's not worthy going all crazy on Hybrid. Calm down. Move along. And enjoy this treasure.
Hybrid Soldier
2013-09-03 13:39:25
Just take the bootleg, and take the OST, and compare... Simple as that.
Anonymous
2013-09-05 00:15:02
What part of Taken is edit to make the Journey Theme? The last part runs around 1m34s, is that it??
bob
2013-09-05 11:12:11
Hybrid is absolutely right. "Taken" from the official OST is not the film version. There's small variations... But ... he forget something : "They Are All Perfect" (called here Farewell To A Friend) as we can hear it in this Complete Score is not the film version too. Hybrid, may be you should add to your track list "They Are All Perfect" from the OST, because this one is the film version.
Per
2013-09-05 11:28:11
Track 2 - Spectres In The Fog (from the start) on the OST have a differently mixed, and a little longer, beginning than the corresponding track, on the 'complete', 2m13 (track 9 - "Taken" on the above tracklist)...
There's also some other differences (well, or at least one I can remember), 7m40B/C (track 35 - "Farewell To A Friend") also have a slightly different mix (at one point at least), compared to the OST.
If there's other differences as well, I don't know.
Per
2013-09-05 11:29:25
LOL, bob beat me to it regarding track 35 ! ;)
Hybrid Soldier
2013-09-05 12:31:14
Well the "Perfect" thing is really not significant enough... I mean, they just undermixed an instrument on OST. It could have been here but hey, I do what I want ! :P :)
...
2016-01-04 00:51:04
Hybrid, after going through the OST I just have to ask... From What OST track is the "Journey Theme" taken? I know you haven't answered this question before and well the question must be quite annoying, but well I'd really like to know:)
653
2016-01-04 11:35:52
It's the last 5 seconds of Track 1 from the ost + the first part of track 2. It's basically an alt version of Captured with a longer opening. The flute part in the beginning is in the very end of the first track so has to be edited together with with track 2.
After some research I got my hand on the cuesheet, now you can have fun renaming the bootleg :
THE LAST SAMURAI - OPENING TITLES THE LAST SAMURAI - END TITLES ALGREN EXPLORES VILLAGE ALGREN TRAVELS TO JAPAN ARCHERS / ON THE BATTLEFIELD BATTLE IN THE FOG BEATING IN THE RAIN BOOT CAMP DEATH AND CARNAGE DON'T GO EMPEROR'S PALACE THE ESCAPE EVERY SOLDIER HAS NIGHTMARES FAREWELL GET PAST THE GUARDS I REFUSE TO GIVE UP MY SWORD INTRUIGING PEOPLE IT'S A DRAW JAPANESE MARKET SOURCE KATSUMOTO'S DEATH THE LITTLE BIG HORN TALE MEETING THE EMPEROR NINJA ATTACK (HZ / Zanelli) NITE AT THE THEATRE (HZ / Zanelli / Fred Selden) NOBUTADA'S DEATH ONE MIND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAKE (HZ / Neely) SAMURAI DIE BY GATLING GUN SAMURAI WILL FIND US SCALPING TECHNIQUE SEASONS PASS SHOOT ME! TENSION DRUMS THEY WON'T SURRENDER TO THE BATTLEFIELD TOO MANY MIND WARRIOR GAMES WEAR THIS ARMOR
:)
badbu
2014-07-30 09:11:08
thanks hybrid :)
Edmund Meinerts
2014-07-30 18:13:57
Who the heck is Fred Selden?
Hybrid Soldier
2014-07-30 18:17:41
Edmund I'm deeply disappointed... :P
Soloists :
Fred Selden - Flute & Ethnic Woodwinds
;)
Frisbee
2014-08-06 12:51:25
Here is my suggestion:
Prologue ==> TLS Opening Titles <Missing> ==> Music For Military Band Source Presenting Nathan Algren ==> The Little Big Horn Tale Yokohama Harbor ==> Algren Travels To Japan Kagura No Netori ==> Japanese Market Source <Missing> ==> Emperor's Palace/Meeting the Emperor Training Camp ==> Boot Camp To Know My Enemy ==> Scalping Technique A Hard Teacher ==> Shoot Me Spectres In The Fog ==> Samurai Will Find Us/Battle in the Fog Taken ==> Captured Sake ==> <Unchanged> Exploring The Village ==> Algren Explores Village The Way Of The Sword ==> Beating in the Rain A Way Of Life ==> Intriguing People Too Many Mind ==> <Unchanged> Seasons Pass ==> <Unchanged> A Draw ==> It's a Draw Night At The Theater ==> Night At The Theater/Ninja Attack Safe Passage ==> Every Soldier Has Nightmares/Farewell/Safe Passage New Contract ==> Haircut Ronin ==> I Refuse To Give Up My Sword A Change Of Heart ==> One Mind Street Encounter ==> Tension Drums Arrival Of The Rickshaws ==> President of the United State Convincing To Escape ==> Get Past the Guards Breaking Out ==> The Escape Idyll's End ==> Nobutada's Death Preparing For Battle ==> Don't Go/Prepare For Battle Red Armor ==> Wear This Armor To The Battlefield ==> <Unchanged> In Positions ==> They Won't Surrender The Barricades ==> Warrior Games Red Warrior ==> Archers/On the Battlefield Casualties ==> Death and Carnage The Final Charge ==> Samurai Die By Gatling Gun Farewell To A Friend ==> Farewell To A Friend/Katsumoto's Death A Small Measure Of Peace ==> <Unchanged> <Missing> ==> TLS End Titles
No I'm just saying why is everyone so excited. when they don't get released.nor can you download them at all.
MacArthur
2013-09-05 20:50:40
I would love it if they came out on CD. but they don't. so why I mean it's just track listings
Sam
2013-09-05 21:05:09
When you see a tracklist here, means that you can get it too by using Google. It doesn't mean we're all freaked out because of some titles, but more that we too can enjoy and hear more music, alternates and variations of the score.
Do you understand?
MacArthur
2013-09-05 21:30:08
Got you.
Anonymous
2013-10-21 18:04:59
And even if you don't download them, you get the following:
--the name of each cue that plays in the movie --possible composer credits for the cues --you can listen to them on the internet
This is one of the few scores where I feel no need for the complete version to service. To me, the album contains all the music worth hearing, and even "The Final Charge" cue was released. Still nice to see a page for it.
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