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Ian - no one is trying to compare Balfe to Zimmer !Firstly there is a 20 year age gap!!!Zimmer will always be the best in my eyes but doesnít harm saying someone else can be good <br><br>Still confused why this conversation is still troubling some.I remember saying last year that I thought Lego Batman was one of the best animation scores that year and it caused some to have heart attacks.there are a hand full of people that donít think he is either good or should be working .... we get !!!! <br><br><br><br>Edmund - given the rationality you've displayed in your comments, I'm disappointed Goldsmith isn't in your top three. ;)<br><br>In all seriousness, I'd put money on Powell fucking nailing the integration of Williams's theme. While Giacchino did a solid job on Jurassic World and Rogue One (I tend to think my assessment of the latter is a bit more positive than most), frankly I just think Powell is a far better composer - a genuine A-level guy, whereas Giacchino is moreso very competent without that spark of pure talent seen in Williams, Goldsmith, Elfman, Zimmer etcI think it's worth noting that Zimmer's popularity at this point is largely under his direct control - meaning that if he were to decide to stop touring, go back to writing full-time, and return to his 'epic' thematic style, I think we'd see a surge in his popularity of the sort we saw from Batman Begins through til Interstellar. However, I just don't think he's interested, which is totally his right.<br><br>I certainly agree that the RCP proteges at this point are, frankly, shit compared to how they used to be. I mean, even a guy like Steve Mazzaro (who I genuinely like and who wrote some of the coolest cues in Chappie, and basically co-wrote BvS - a score I actually like) just utterly pales in comparison to the Powell era.<br><br>Actually, I have to take that back a bit; Wallfisch is a very, very talented guy, honestly so much better than someone like Junkie that I weirdly tend to forget he's under the RCP roof now.@HunterTech<br><br>"I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world."<br><br>Exactly. Hans, for all the criticism he gets (much of it for good reason), has written some of the best film music of all time (seriously, having listened to huge amounts of Williams and Goldsmith, I still find Science & Religion my favorite cue ever). On the other hand, Lorne has written innumerable adequate-to-good scores, but none that I can recall are iconic. I'd say the closest he's come is in the form of his contributions to some of Zimmer's work (personally, I think his Kick It theme is the most interesting of those in Inception), but even then he hasn't done anything as memorable as Djawadi's theme from Batman Begins.Michael - reread the second half of my previous comment. And no, I don't think Genius or Churchill are no good; I wasn't impressed by the second, to be honest, but Genius is really cool - like an updated version of Frost/Nixon, one of my very favorite Zimmer/RCP scores.<br><br>Edmund - much appreciated.<br><br>Overall, I too am baffled by many of these comments; clearly there is a middle ground between "Lorne is shit." and "Lorne is absolutely amazing.", but this seems to be missed.<br><br>And by the way, I'm actually super happy for Lorne's success - I think he deserves it given the quality and quantity of his work, and he seems like a super nice guy to boot (how many composers regularly respond to people on Facebook?). However, this doesn't mean I can't simultaneously point out the fact that much of his work is very, very similar to work he's done previously. Indeed, I think this is more of an issue for Lorne than Hans, perhaps because he takes on sooooooo many projects.
I agree. His Justice League theme is just a deconstruct of his Batman theme. Clever, yeah sure - he's done similar things with the Men In Black sequels and I'm sure there's others I can't think of right now - but I personally dont consider Elfman's involvement in this new DCEU to be very welcome. Zimmer paints a different canvas than Elfman, and I love both their works.It was a missed opportunity.<br>Yeah... I'm not sure about Elfman's wave. The guy decided to bring back his old Batman theme instead of actually writing a new one. He has to re-invent himself. <br>Seven with ZimmerYeah, Silvestri, Newman, Goldenthal and JNH too. The six most popular "new" composers, along with Horner, of the  80's and 90's.
I saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitI saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitHonestly, I do feel bad for Elfman, because for Chrissakes hes been doing 50 Shades of Grey these days, and the last memorable scores I have of him are from 2012. But I don't think Zimmer or even Elfman for that matter are done as yet. I predict by the end of this decade Zimmer will have a new wave in popularity wash in. I'm just waiting for Elfman's wave right now...not quite seeing it yet.Glad you caught it Rockhound. Think the others were too wound up to notice !!i was trying to be funny.Pete you are funny, although u demand from others to talk about the actual soundtrack from this page, you start to talk also about another soundtrack. but ok.... i think Forgotten is a very boring track and adds nothing to the actual scene. a variation of his theme from the track Hero would have been much more intense for the ending. sadly we got 9 boring minutes of thematic development and instrumentation. Lorne can do much better as the track Hero from the same soundtrack shows.
Zimmer got X-Men: Dark Phoenix this year. And I have a hard time believing he is only scoring that film this year. Zimmer always does more than 1 film a year.No need for petty cursing .<br><br>We can discuss the soundtrack instead ! <br><br>Forgotten is cool track.Itís definitely one of Bayís best movies. Wish he would make more drama based film obvious with some action. Canít cope with more robots ! The ending of the film is so emotional and this track gave goosebumps at the end. Did sound very similar to the end of The Last Knight"Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject."<br><br>Ok, so someone else gets us on this topic, an arguement occurs, and NOW, only when you've realized you're losing the arguement, do you decide that this page is only for 12 strong. Which it's not. This is a forum we talk about whatever we want here.<br><br>But what a childish and pathetic attempt at avoiding our points. Just dismissively saying "Boring! Change the subject! My ears can't handle this criticism!!! Wah, wah, wah!" I guarantee you the next step after this is going to be petty cursing.Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subjectUpset about success? Sounds like someone doesn't know a thing about reasonable criticism. :p<br><br>If anyone likes Balfe, then good on them. I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world. Especially if people are still gonna be excited about hearing the work of someone else when a different person is hired (i.e. what JL might've been).
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Lorne BalfeKelly JohnsonSteven KofskyDaniel Kresco
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The Frozen Ground
Label: Metropolis Movie Music Ltd (Digital Download Only)
Length: 42'04
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  6. Survival (5:22)
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Felix reply Replies: 5 || 2015-03-10 21:38:40
Hey Hybrid, some leak of the other guys would be great :D

Something like this here :D


Macejko2015-03-10 23:16:35
Some people would just take and take and take... and then have the balls to ask for more in the end.


Felix2015-03-10 23:25:31
@Macejko: Because it's coming ever new movies, also new scores ;D


Macejko2015-03-10 23:40:21
I know, but you must understand that the complete ones aren't our rights nor privileges. It's often by sheer luck that we get to hear them. If I'd get, say, Game of Thrones complete score, I wouldn't be immediately asking for Pacific Rim, because I'd be too busy drooling over that GoT CS.


Macejko2015-03-10 23:44:28
I'm certainly no stranger to asking shit I have no business or right having myself, but this right here bugs me nevertheless. It's MoS and Lone Ranger, for crying out loud. People should be going apeshit over it finally being leaked, not ask for more.


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-11 10:02:29
Yeah, I totally agree with you, Macejko. Two huge completes just leaked (three if you count On Stranger Tides, although we already had the demos for that and, well, the score sucks, so I didn't). Aren't people happy with that for now?

Also, I HIGHLY doubt that asking Hybrid will actually get anything done. Even if this is only an "(almost) official site", I don't think you make many friends among composers by leaking their complete scores onto the Internet.

Aaaalso, Frozen Ground is already a pretty repetitive album...I honestly can't imagine a complete score adding much of anything.

FrozenG reply Replies: 0 || 2014-09-16 13:52:08
I really really want that a complete score will come out soon &#128525;

Hansen reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-08 23:36:46
Complete Score please!!!

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-06 21:21:29
Lorne made by his IMHO chilling-atmosphere music great experience. And now I look towards to Beyond: Two Souls (with Hans) <3 that would be EPIC. Shame you werent already on Heavy Rain :)

JamesT reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-28 19:22:40
This is on iTunes. Just getting through it, but liking what I have heard so far!

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2013-07-13 12:42:00
I want or wish to Lorne compose Assassin's Creed Movie, it would be perfect.. his music in AC is awesome :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2013-07-08 19:46:46
And another one !


I'm losing tracks with the TONS of releases these days, but that's good news !! :)


Adriaan2013-07-08 21:37:14
It does say something when YOU are losing track, the RC-expert :-)

Also, this looks like a very interesting release!


Joshua2013-07-08 21:48:52
I feel like Balfe scores alot of these low budget type of action films. My question is, why? Someone as talanted as Balfe should be headlining big blockbuster scores on his own.


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-08 21:52:58
I think he's working on big blockbusters quite a lot with HZ, no wonder he wants to go elsewhere when he's on his own. :)


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