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Well it's complicated cause on the first film it was done such in a hurry that some themes became more "situation themes" than "character themes". But yeah, there's a loooooooooooot !I did a breakdown for the hell of it a while back, the sheer amount of themes/motifs is astounding, not quite as many as Lord of the Rings or Star Wars but very close!<br><br>It’s tricky to really place some of the theme meanings in as much as they were repurposed for the other films through temp tracking.I was recently revisiting all of this scores and I was wondering...<br><br>Could anyone help me identify all of the themes from the whole saga and tell mewhat they represent?<br><br>I already got a lot of them like the Kraken, Davy Jones, Mermaids, the main theme, etc. But others are still a bit confusing on what they represent, like for example the theme Neely and Badelt created in the first movie that were used in the following movies.<br><br>Thanks in advance!why no cd release?Haha!  Wear the mask. how fitting.
yap. and all of the alternates :PI want that "Final Confrontation" cue so much!Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>
Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmer’s best animated score imo but it’s still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, “Love” is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.Who is Hans Zimmerman?
i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>
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Mark MancinaDave MetzgerDon Harper
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Planes
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 53'24 (Score: 41'38)
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  2. You Don't Stop NYC - Chris Classic, Alana D (3:49)
  3. Fly - Jon Stevens Of The Dead Daisies (2:58)
  4. Planes (2:33)
    Mark Mancina
  5. Crop Duster (1:20)
    Mark Mancina
  6. Last Contestant (1:27)
    Mark Mancina, Dave Metzger
  7. Hello Lincoln - Sixth Place (1:06)
    Mark Mancina
  8. Show Me What You Got (1:21)
    Mark Mancina, Dave Metzger
  9. Dusty Steps Into History (1:06)
    Mark Mancina
  10. Start Your Engines (1:59)
    Mark Mancina
  11. Leg 2 - Bulldog Thanks Dusty (2:22)
    Mark Mancina
  12. Skipper Tries To Fly (0:51)
    Mark Mancina
  13. Dusty & Ishani (2:38)
    Mark Mancina
  14. The Tunnel (1:22)
    Mark Mancina, Dave Metzger
  15. Running On Fumes (3:10)
    Mark Mancina
  16. Get Above The Storm (1:11)
    Mark Mancina, Dave Metzger
  17. Dusty Has To Ditch (0:58)
    Mark Mancina
  18. Skipper's Story (2:17)
    Mark Mancina
  19. You're A Racer (2:52)
    Mark Mancina
  20. Leg 7 (3:03)
    Mark Mancina
  21. Skipper To The Rescue (1:58)
    Mark Mancina
  22. Dusty Soars (1:32)
    Mark Mancina
  23. 1st Place (1:55)
    Mark Mancina
  24. A True Victory (0:41)
    Mark Mancina
  25. Honorary Jolly Wrench (0:53)
    Mark Mancina
  26. Skipper's Theme (Volo Pro Veritas) (1:13)
    Mark Mancina
  27. Love Machine - Carlos Alazraqui, Antonio Sol (1:45)
  28. Ein Crop Duster Can Race - Dave Wittenberg (1:11)
    Kristen Anderson-Lopez, Robert Lopez, Mark Mancina, Matt Walker
  29. Armadillo (0:39)
    Mark Mancina
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isildur reply Replies: 5 || 2013-09-20 17:08:49
Never heard any of the scores by Mancia but this one is awesome.

Please, suggest me some more of his good stuff.


isildur2013-09-20 17:17:59
The starting of the track "Leg 7" sounded familiar to me. Anyone felt the same?


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-07 16:36:30
The beginning of "Leg 7" is oddly identical to the track "Knife to a Gun Fight" from Michael Giacchino's Mission Impossible 4 score. I wonder if it might just be a coincidence, but it's definitely there. Weird, huh.

As for Mancina recommendations, he did a ton of really fun, thematic scores in the 90s...Speed, Bad Boys, Twister, Speed 2 etc. Those are pretty much all great. Tarzan is a strong score too, if you can find the score-only promo (apparently it was more important for the original album to have four versions of "Two Worlds, One Family" than to properly represent the score). And he did a score to a Japanese anime called Blood+ (yes, really) which is really good as well. Mancina's one of my favorites from MV because he never forgets to put in memorable themes and a sense of fun!


isildur2013-10-08 13:34:15
Wow! I didn't know Bad Boys was Mancia's. I always liked that score. Thanks, Meinerts.


MrZimmerFan2013-10-08 13:36:09
Speed and Speed 2, my favorites of Mancina


Luffy2014-03-25 03:05:26
How can you forget Blood+, Divas theme, I mean its one of his best tracks and score

Phil reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-25 11:35:10
Planes is such a nice track! :)

J.A.J. reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-04 01:55:48
"Ein Crop Duster Can Race" was co-produced by Mark Mancina, so I guess that song should technically be marked as "Score", which should add up to a total of about 41 minutes and 38 seconds of "Score".

NB reply Replies: 2 || 2013-08-09 05:52:47
I'm usually not one to rant about this stuff, but can someone please explain to me how the hell does this have such a low rating in this site since pretty much before it was even released??
Not only that, but how can this have a lower rating than that absurdly missed opportunity that was the Man Of Steel score? I guess that alone speaks for the state of film music today...
I'm not saying that everyone was to love this score and give it 5 stars or anything like that, but jesus, doesn't make any sense to me...


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-09 08:49:39
I just rated this 5 stars and whaddya know, it bumped the average up to 3. :p

The ratings on this site are weird though, I'd say just ignore them.


Mike2013-08-09 17:24:43
Indeed, Edmund, the ratings on this site are weird.

ScoreFan reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-08 22:25:02
Mancina is back. The Score is amazing!!!!

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2013-08-07 22:31:06
If the trailer alone was any indication, then this is a five star score.


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-07 22:51:57
The trailer cue (which is the first track, "Planes") is by far the best thing in the score but there are a lot of fun action cues that sound like Speed/Twister crossed with Henry Jackman action cues from Puss in Boots/Wreck-it Ralph. And the love theme in "Dusty and Ishani" has to be heard to be believed...it's like a Bollywood version of Days of Thunder. XD

Tunerline reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-07 20:39:06
Mark Mancina - Planes EPIC!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2013-08-07 17:37:38
AMAZING score. Anyone who loves classic 90s Media Ventures music will absolutely adore this. It's like 90s Mancina with a bit of John Powell/Henry Jackman's orchestral style for animations thrown in. For me, probably the best score of the year so far, and certainly the best main theme.

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Evenstar2013-08-07 17:58:07
Indeed. Was a bit confused about the indian themes, but looks like there is a plane from there so it makes sense. Nice work Mark Mancina!


Prott2013-08-07 18:38:34
Agreed, it's a fantastic score! It really brings back that "Twister" feeling... definitely my favourite score from animations (together with HtTYD and LK). :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-07-03 21:07:18
Waiting for that one as well !! :)


Macejko2013-07-03 21:36:50
Me too.


Mike2013-07-03 21:46:01
If the music in the trailer was any indication, so am I!


Blu2013-07-04 05:51:42
Nice to see Mancina and his team back. I am pleasantly surprised to see the score is getting released too!


Bioscope2013-07-04 05:58:59
Nice to have you back, Mark. Love the trailer theme. Can't wait to hear the rest :)


Guizmox2013-07-04 12:58:55
One month to wait.........


Prott2013-08-04 18:33:14
Two days left... can't wait! :)

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2013-07-04 02:57:26
Hell yeah!!!!!!!! Mancina is Back

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2013-07-03 21:41:21
Oh Yeah!!! Mancina is back!!!

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