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hybrid created a very good suite from this movie, also because he left out the more uninteresting action stuff. the whole score is not original, but the themes are great because they transport emotions and excitement. the quiter parts are also very nice. im sure the actionmusic is very functional in the movie, but as a stand alone listening experience it is not very convincing. too much electronics which make too much noise. when the themes kick in, it sounds good, but a better mix of orchestra and electronics would have helped. sadly you won't find a second "Burn around the moon" or "Goodbye/Landing" from Armageddon in this score.Yep. He will be in Nightwing's next solo movie<br>I think we all agree, Lorne Balfe is getting better and better, he's working at the speed of light and handles many different genres. Plus, he seems to be a very cool person. I'm really happy he got there, and I believe he'll be getting some major movies in the next few years (Terminator Genysis, Geostorm & Ghost in the Shell don't count, they were predicted failures undergoing a damage control process).<br><br>But anyway, I think his best solo score is still Home.Maybe there is a big surprise and Disc 2 is different from the actual release. If you look at the download files you see 01-01 to 01-24. I think Disc 2 must be named 02-01, 02-02...etc.Can I ask why there is no page made for The Nut Job 2 by Heitor Pereira?
I'm not upset, nor am I disinterested in Balfe's work. Don't get me wrong. I welcome any and all discussion! But there's a difference between "discussion" and "blind fanboy gushing", and I've seen way more of the latter here this year than the former.Have to agree because if you havenít an interest in Lorneís work then just donít goto his films topics ! Either way I like the suite here good old school MVIf you have an issue with Balfe simply donít click on Geostorm etc! Just ignore it . God knows why Edmund gets so upset !!!! You donít have to read the postsThis is already a much more interesting conversation than all the blind praise that was being spilled earlier. Thanks guys! :DEverybody is free to love whatever music they want, but I agree that the Balfe praise is a bit over the top. I mean I saw a comment that said that all of Balfe's scores from 2017 were the best of their genre which I think is over the top. I mean nothing against Balfe, he's a very good composer, but I just don't think he deserves all that praise about him being the best.
Anything, @LP. I myself have spent several hours of my life listening Balfe's work and, of course, commenting here.<br><br>It's okay to get on a page and say "this is the best score of all ages" or "this is the worst shit I've ever heard", as long as this behavior is restricted to a minority who has make the mistake of making this kind of comment because not listened to many jobs of the same composer or of other composers or who do not respect his efforts to carry out the work.<br><br>> Waymann - Ramin did good work on A Mountain Between us.  Completely atypical of his recent outputs, and showed more range.  It is rooted a bit in his work on Hans' rom-com scores (i.e. The Holiday) and sounds excellent overall.Just wondering, why would anyone have an issue with people who go into a Lorne Balfe soundtrack page to rave about the work of Lorne Balfe?I'm not saying that I don't like his music, because I really do, but I think there are also a lot of composers this year that have created amazing scores and they don't get the same talk. Let's mention Ramin Djawadi for The Mountain Between Us, Benjamin Wallfisch for A Cure For Wellness and It, and even outside of RCP like Giacchino with his fantastic War for the Planet of the Apes, Beltrami with The Snowman or the recent Ragnarok by Mothersbaugh (well, this does not belong in this page, so I understand why there is no talk about him).<br>And I repeat that I like Balfe, but not everything he does is perfect, and for example this, I don't consider it too original, because it reminds me to a lot of older scores. And for example, from Balfe I think one of the best was Churchill, and that didn't get much talk or praise neither.I do not think anyone here is hurting because another composer besides of the HZ - JP - HGW triad is being well received by the audience. Well, I agree that this behavior in any session regardless of who the composer is, is very uncomfortable. But we have to understand that each an of the RCP guys has its glory days. Balfe is conquering his. The problem is the proportions of compliments. Many people liked PoTc 5 (best RCP score of the year in my opinion, of course), for example, many also hated, the justifications were many, but the discussion was balanced. If you enter on the forum of  any score of any composer you find diverse but balanced opinions, what is missing in the forums about Balfe scores is this balance. Nothing against the growth of his popularity or the reception of his scores, only the judgments that seem a little too exaggerated. It's even a little weird.
Due to Edmund getting upset !!!! Iím scared to ask about if anyone knows about The Florida Project ????How pathietic that it bothers some ,that some of us are excited about another composers music. Get a life people. Balfe has become a great composer this year so give him a break . If you donít like it , you can find another forumI agree, I'm shocked no one is talking about how great Ramin Djawadi's score is for The Mountain Between Us. Much better than this new Lorne Balfe score, I'm mean really, this Geostorm score is just a constant reminder to other scores from RCP from the past. Nothing original here. Only the track May Day is memorable.I like it too but I don't understand why this thread is full of slobbering fanboys while nobody is talking about, say, Kingsman 2 which is just as good. I don't want to stop anyone talking about his music but did we really need every day this year for someone to go "oh my god I can't wait for Lorne to release another unreleased cue from Ghost in the Shell"? It doesn't contribute anything meaningful and makes this site look even more like a YouTube comments section than it already does.Your right Edmund ..... how dare we take about any other composer apart from Zimmer or John Powell!  Thankfully your point of view is in the minority. There is obviously a reason why he is one of the busiest composers . Geostorm isnít original BUT itís great music and I like it at least
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Kung Fu Panda 2 (Expanded Score)
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  1. Ancient China - Story Of Peacock (2:44)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  2. Dumpling Warrior - Late For Training (1:25)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  3. Inner Peace (2:26)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  4. Wolf Attack (1:20)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  5. Dragon Noodle Warrior (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  6. Gongmen City - Masters Spar - Shen Reclaims Palace (2:50)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  7. Save Kung Fu - Journey To Gongmen City (3:57)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  8. Po Dreams Of Parents (1:35)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  9. Daddy Issues - Shen's Palace (5:03)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  10. Stealth Mode - Entering The City (4:11)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  11. Gongmen Jail (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  12. Rickshaw Chase (2:36)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  13. Surrender Palace (2:16)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  14. Face To Face (4:09)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  15. More Cannons (3:39)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  16. The Hardcore Do Understand (0:56)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  17. Shen Frees Southsayer - Fireworks Factory (6:57)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  18. Po Finds The Truth (Part 1) (1:03)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  19. Po Finds The Truth (Part 2) (0:43)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  20. Po Finds The Truth (Part 3) (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  21. Invasion Begins - Po Returns (2:27)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  22. Po Throws Hat (0:13)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  23. Free The Five (3:39)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  24. The Future Is Here - Zen Ball Master (3:50)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  25. Po Defeats Shen - Reunion - My Son Is Alive (4:55)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  26. Dumpling Warrior Remix (3:31)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Junkie XL
  27. Stealth Mode - Entering The City (Alternate) (4:04)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  28. More Cannons (Alternate Ending) (0:34)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  29. The Future Is Here - Zen Ball Master (Alternate) (3:51)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
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Pablo Reyes reply Replies: 1 || 2016-11-19 03:41:44
Since the very first time I heard the "Lost & Found" theme from HTTYD 2 I noticed it shared a few notes with Shen's theme, so I made this: /watch?v=HMQTiimsdPg
What do you guys think? I think Shen's theme might be Powell ;) but the again, you can never be sure about who composed what.


Mike2016-11-19 16:23:17
You're correct - Hybrid confirmed a while back that Powell did Shen's theme.

mittens reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-12 15:48:57
Yup, this is only expanded score. Just saw the list of cues from sessions, more than half of them is missing.

NM reply Replies: 8 || 2015-02-27 19:26:35
"More Cannons" one of Balfe's best cues. Listened to it today and it was great! That is all.


Mike2015-02-27 20:19:51
This whole score has some great cues by Lorne Balfe. In Zimmer's own words, "Lorne Balfe was really a hero on that score." :P


Mike2015-02-27 20:37:28
(And by the looks of it, Balfe did more work here than Zimmer did... lol).


Edmund Meinerts2015-02-27 22:16:52
Yeah, you can kind of tell Balfe worked on that one when the Megamind rhythm kicks in 30 seconds before the end. The rest of the cue sounds more Powellish to me though.


Zimson2015-02-28 00:08:51
We already had this discussion but "More Cannons" is basically a variation on the track "Hero" from the first movie which, as we can all agree was mostly done by Powell. That explains the "Powellish" sound.



Mike2015-02-28 00:31:40
Besides, didn't Hybrid say Lorne "mimicked" Powell's sound for the end of My Son is Alive? It wouldn't be a stretch to assume he did so for other parts of the score, too.


NM2015-02-28 07:40:14
I dunno Edmund, all of "More Cannons" sounds like Balfe to me. It has the "Shen" rhythm running throughout the entire track as its foundation. And listen to the quick trumpet writing, it's the same sort you hear in Megamind, and even in "Zen Ball Master". The swirling woodwinds and strings sound very Powellish though, and the ascending scales at 1:51 sound like a Zimmer contribution.

@Mike - "My Son is Alive" sounds exactly like Lorne though.


Edmund Meinerts2015-02-28 12:18:27
Yes, because Powell never uses quick trumpet writing... :p

I can hear both composers' voices, but Powell's is simply a stronger voice...so his sound tends to dominate for me, even though it may well be an even collaboration. "My Son is Alive/My Fist Hungers for Justice" sounds more like "pure" Balfe to me, although ironically the theme owes a lot to How to Train Your Dragon!

The Zimmerish ascending scales are a holdover from the bridge cue from the first KFP, so I'm guessing it's an adaptation of a Zimmer idea by Powell/Balfe.

Geesh, what a clusterfuck all this is. I guess it's old-fashioned of me to say this, but why can't we just have ONE guy compose everything, no confusion, no fuss? :p


NM2015-03-02 22:30:27
Hah, well it doesn't bother me. I think it's cool when you get a couple of people going at it and high quality work results, which still has a coherent narrative. It's fun to try and pick out the different contributions.

The problem is when it becomes a "too many cooks" thing and you just end up with something disjointed. Thankfully, this score is far from.

"Yes, because Powell never uses quick trumpet writing... :p"

Haha, I can't quite describe the difference. Lorne's stuff is more... rhythm I guess? I mean Powell to me is more "Free the Five", which is more dynamic and exuberant I suppose. "More Cannons" has a harsh edge to it which evokes Balfe/Zimmer. Perhaps you're right and it genuinely was a real collaboration there with different ideas pitched in.

"The Zimmerish ascending scales are a holdover from the bridge cue from the first KFP"

Reminds me a lot of "Chess" actually.

Kardo_Fury reply Replies: 0 || 2014-10-26 06:38:13
Is there anyway you can dl this?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-02-04 03:59:37
Did Paul Mounsey do the entire first cue, or just part of it? Because the audio file only has the Story of Shen part, and that in turn was on Zimmer's page when the audio player was there....


Mike2014-02-04 15:24:55
Not sure, but it's really amazing how difficult it can be to tell each composer apart in here (besides Po Finds the Truth, most of which is obviously Zimmer). The rest sounds like Powell, but was supposedly Zimmer's contribution due to the Lorne Balfe credits...

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-08-01 15:43:22
So is Paul Mounsey to John Powell what Lorne Balfe is to Hans Zimmer? lol


Mike2013-08-01 15:46:02
That might indeed be fair to say. Mounsey has been on quite a few Powell projects (The Lorax, How To Train Your Dragon, Happy Feet Two, Kung Fu Panda 2, Mars Needs Moms, and probably more) and we all know how often Lorne works alongside Zimmer. :)


Anon12013-08-01 15:49:07
Mounsey also worked on Horton Hears a Who, Rio, Green Zone, Knight and Day, Ice Age 3 and 4, Fair Game, and Bolt--so yes, I would say he is like the Lorne Balfe of John Powell's projects.


J.A.J.2013-08-02 02:48:18
Mounsey also wrote additional music for Epic, which probably explains why parts of Danny Elfman's score sound eerily similar to John Powell's work. It's likely that the folks at Blue Sky Studios wanted to hire Powell for the umpteenth time but couldn't because of his hiatus, so they hired Mounsey (along with Elfman) to write Powell-y music.

Ted reply Replies: 2 || 2013-05-21 02:50:09
Can anyone tell me why this list doesn't seem to include "1m10/11 Father Son & Baby Po?" Was it not recorded?


Mike2013-05-21 03:58:12
This is only the "expanded score", not the "complete score".


Ted2013-05-21 22:31:10
Just thought I'd ask since it's the only thing that seems to be missing. Thanks for your answer!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2013-05-17 13:25:45
Here you go... :)


Jimmer2013-05-17 15:59:18
Oh how I want this!!!


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 16:02:23
It's out there, Jimmer...


Jimmer2013-05-17 17:22:09
Edmund, thank you. I didn't know this had leaked yet.


Anonymous2013-05-18 21:01:10
Goodness, so many HZ scores leaked this week. In fact, its been a good year or so for HZ fans (as far as leaked scores haha). I wonder what happened all of a sudden. Definitely hoping for more in the next couple of months. Maybe Pearl Harbor or Hannibal will come soon. At least, thats what I hope haha.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-18 23:45:15
It's been an absolutely amazing year for leaked complete scores in general! I have a huge backlog of them that I haven't even gotten around to listening to yet. Maybe some disgruntled RC employee quit and rage-uploaded all of them. :p

But...hasn't the complete Pearl Harbor been around for ages?


Anonymous2013-05-20 18:04:07
I don't think so. The only thing I've seen is a promo or expanded with a couple of new cues. The complete hasn't leaked, as far as I know.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-20 18:51:50
Really? My version is about 102 minutes...maybe not 100% complete for a film as long as Pearl Harbor but hardly just a promo with a couple of additional cues. I've had it for long enough that I don't even remember where I got it.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2013-05-19 00:12:12
"Maybe some disgruntled RC employee quit and rage-uploaded all of them"

LOL I can assure you it's not what happened ! :)


Ds2013-05-19 00:36:28
So basically HZ leaked them himself in an act of generosity towards his beloved fans? :p


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-19 01:34:21
Oh, I know. But wouldn't it be a funny story if it was? XD


cheesy2013-05-19 05:48:31
More like Hans had the idea to leak it and then got five different Magic Box composers to upload each file individually.


Mr. Fate2013-05-19 20:26:14
What? Only two composers make up the group Magic Box Music: John Sponsler and Tom Gire.

Mike reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-17 20:48:17
This is one of the few scores with Zimmer music where I'd say most of the notable stuff was released (the others being The Dark Knight in its 2-disc form, At World's End with all the suites from the Treasures Collection, The Last Samurai, Gladiator, and Crimson Tide).


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 22:16:38
Well, yeah, the complete score here is only about 15 minutes longer than the regular album. Powell animated scores (which this really is more than a Zimmer effort) tend to have pretty good releases that contain most if not all of the music, and always all of the really important stuff.

As for your other ones, I agree with all of them except At World's End. The Treasures Collection suites were definitely an absolute godsend, but that still didn't include Maelstrom Pt. 1 or Liftoff, which are both absolutely essential cues IMO.


Mike2013-05-17 22:26:55
Powell animated scores do tend to get good treatment. How to Train Your Dragon was an excellent album. And you're right, Maelstrom pt. 1 and Liftoff are great pieces, which is why I intentionally said the scores contain MOST of the notable stuff. ;)


Aragorn2013-05-17 22:33:14
Another great Powell release was Chicken Run!

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