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I believe him as I didn't hear anything from Kraemer.I asked Balfe on Facebook if he used any of Kraemers theme and he said noI Know, Hybrid, just sayin' that i a fan of Benjamin Wallfisch's music Scores since lights Out to Blade Runner 2049 and i say this is another excelent Work from WallfischOne-worded track titles! Reminds me of early days of Media Ventures!<br><br>They sure tried real hard to keep spoilers out of these, didn't they? I suppose I'd take this approach over Latin or irrelevant names, though a little bit of pun and flavor wouldn't have hurt.So you can't wait to hear the score but you already say it's a great score ?<br><br><br>#inception
Another great score from Benjamin Wallfisch can't wait to hear the score & see the movie <br><br>Music By Benjamin Wallfisch<br>Additional Music By John Paesano & Adam Hochstatter<br>Orchestra Conducted By Tim Williams<br>Orchestrations By Peter Bateman & David J. KrystalWhy is people saying that Balfe kept some original music from Kraemer? I have listened to the whole score and I didn't found any quotes. Maybe in The Syndicate there is some kind of reference to Kraemer's theme but I don't really know.<br><br>And I have to say that I was expecting Balfe to shine on this one, but I ended up disappointed. There are some great action cues, and I like some things he does with the main theme like the use of choir, but the score as a whole feels like a reuse of many things I have already heard and ends up feeling repetitive and a bit boring. <br>And note that this is my opinion so don't jump into my neck saying this is the best score in the saga, because I think Rogue Nation is a really big step above this. I hope that at least it works in the context of the movie, which I suppose it does really well...Re-listening the score again...….Have to say, Lisbeth Scott's beautiful vocals are definitely one of the highlights. She's amazing. On par with Lisa Gerrard.<br><br>Speaking of, what the hell happened to MV/RC guys incorporating female vocalists in their scores? I've always loved that approach. But it seems that it kinda went away......replaced by more and more sound design! So except for this score (and Steve's Your Highness) is there a recent big MV/RC score that actually features female vocals? Maybe I'm missing some...…..I was wondering that is there a Hans Zimmer library you need to license from Remote Control.<br><br>I kinda saw a composer's Cubase setup and he labeled one of his folders, HZ STR, HZ BRS, and HZ Choir.<br><br>Does Zimmer have a brass and choir sample library you need to have a license for?Easy now Mr. Anonymous, no need to be so superior. <br>I looked up that tracklist, and couldn't find 'Tai Lung Escapes' specifficaly listed, hence asking. Closest there is 'Shogun Mongol Prison', but it's too short to be the whole scene.   <br><br>But I'll try to get a hold of that complete version somehow, looks super interesting.
Its just three short bursts of sound, really.Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention there's also a short track that plays when K walks through Las Vegas past the statues and beehives, but is not listed on the cuesheetIt should be noted that I think a few tracks like 'new model' are put together with the track that came before it on the CD.<br><br>Ossuary<br>Return to Sappers<br>Must Protect the Child<br>Bomb<br>Like a Real Girl<br>Luv in Apartment<br>Mesa Hijack<br><br>I think are the only real missing tracks, and some of them are pretty short anyway.I keep listening to "The Syndicat", which is what I assume to be the theme for The Syndicate. Honestly one of the better villain themes i've heard in a whileFlight has a new Andrew Kawczynski credit...We're getting there!
Yeah, you're probably right. <br><br>I guess I thought of it as a Powell cue mostly because between the two main composers, it matched more with his style than Hans', but yeah it's probably Jackman's stuff. <br><br>Either way, I love that track.Yeah<br><br>BTW, John Paesano is credited as additional musicI'm pretty sure that the majority of it is Henry Jackman (maybe with a bit of Hans). I don't get much of a Powell vibe off that particular cue at all.This film and score are ten years old! The first seven minutes of Hans’ New Batman Theme (A Dark Knight) are still one of my favorite individual Zimmer themes. <br><br>And the movie itself is still one of my favorites, comic book or not.I'm curious, who do you think mostly wrote 'Tai Lung Escapes'? <br><br>I've always loved that track, and always felt that it was mostly a John Powell cue, although that very dark first part could easily be Hans' work. I could also see it being a Henry Jackman cue though... I don't know. :p
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Kung Fu Panda 2 (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 83'46
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  1. Ancient China - Story Of Peacock (2:44)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  2. Dumpling Warrior - Late For Training (1:25)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  3. Inner Peace (2:26)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  4. Wolf Attack (1:20)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  5. Dragon Noodle Warrior (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  6. Gongmen City - Masters Spar - Shen Reclaims Palace (2:50)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  7. Save Kung Fu - Journey To Gongmen City (3:57)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  8. Po Dreams Of Parents (1:35)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  9. Daddy Issues - Shen's Palace (5:03)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  10. Stealth Mode - Entering The City (4:11)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  11. Gongmen Jail (2:51)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  12. Rickshaw Chase (2:36)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  13. Surrender Palace (2:16)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  14. Face To Face (4:09)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  15. More Cannons (3:39)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  16. The Hardcore Do Understand (0:56)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  17. Shen Frees Southsayer - Fireworks Factory (6:57)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  18. Po Finds The Truth (Part 1) (1:03)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  19. Po Finds The Truth (Part 2) (0:43)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  20. Po Finds The Truth (Part 3) (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  21. Invasion Begins - Po Returns (2:27)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  22. Po Throws Hat (0:13)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell
  23. Free The Five (3:39)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Dominic Lewis
  24. The Future Is Here - Zen Ball Master (3:50)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  25. Po Defeats Shen - Reunion - My Son Is Alive (4:55)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  26. Dumpling Warrior Remix (3:31)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Junkie XL
  27. Stealth Mode - Entering The City (Alternate) (4:04)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  28. More Cannons (Alternate Ending) (0:34)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
  29. The Future Is Here - Zen Ball Master (Alternate) (3:51)
    Hans Zimmer, John Powell, Lorne Balfe
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Madiyar reply Replies: 1 || 2018-05-04 16:00:44
Hello. Does anyone have notes? Full Score for Orchestra?


BandGeek47962018-05-07 12:37:05
I wish I knew, I’ve been looking all over for it because it sounds so incredibly awesome.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 1 || 2017-10-23 00:14:39
Everybody is talking about Shen's Theme. I just can't figure out what his theme really is.
Could someone please note where in wich song and at what time his theme appears?

Thanks very much!


Edmund Meinerts2017-10-23 15:07:54
Just listen to "Invasion Begins", it's almost like a small suite of Shen's theme.

Pablo Reyes reply Replies: 1 || 2016-11-19 03:41:44
Since the very first time I heard the "Lost & Found" theme from HTTYD 2 I noticed it shared a few notes with Shen's theme, so I made this: /watch?v=HMQTiimsdPg
What do you guys think? I think Shen's theme might be Powell ;) but the again, you can never be sure about who composed what.


Mike2016-11-19 16:23:17
You're correct - Hybrid confirmed a while back that Powell did Shen's theme.

mittens reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-12 15:48:57
Yup, this is only expanded score. Just saw the list of cues from sessions, more than half of them is missing.

NM reply Replies: 8 || 2015-02-27 19:26:35
"More Cannons" one of Balfe's best cues. Listened to it today and it was great! That is all.


Mike2015-02-27 20:19:51
This whole score has some great cues by Lorne Balfe. In Zimmer's own words, "Lorne Balfe was really a hero on that score." :P


Mike2015-02-27 20:37:28
(And by the looks of it, Balfe did more work here than Zimmer did... lol).


Edmund Meinerts2015-02-27 22:16:52
Yeah, you can kind of tell Balfe worked on that one when the Megamind rhythm kicks in 30 seconds before the end. The rest of the cue sounds more Powellish to me though.


Zimson2015-02-28 00:08:51
We already had this discussion but "More Cannons" is basically a variation on the track "Hero" from the first movie which, as we can all agree was mostly done by Powell. That explains the "Powellish" sound.



Mike2015-02-28 00:31:40
Besides, didn't Hybrid say Lorne "mimicked" Powell's sound for the end of My Son is Alive? It wouldn't be a stretch to assume he did so for other parts of the score, too.


NM2015-02-28 07:40:14
I dunno Edmund, all of "More Cannons" sounds like Balfe to me. It has the "Shen" rhythm running throughout the entire track as its foundation. And listen to the quick trumpet writing, it's the same sort you hear in Megamind, and even in "Zen Ball Master". The swirling woodwinds and strings sound very Powellish though, and the ascending scales at 1:51 sound like a Zimmer contribution.

@Mike - "My Son is Alive" sounds exactly like Lorne though.


Edmund Meinerts2015-02-28 12:18:27
Yes, because Powell never uses quick trumpet writing... :p

I can hear both composers' voices, but Powell's is simply a stronger voice...so his sound tends to dominate for me, even though it may well be an even collaboration. "My Son is Alive/My Fist Hungers for Justice" sounds more like "pure" Balfe to me, although ironically the theme owes a lot to How to Train Your Dragon!

The Zimmerish ascending scales are a holdover from the bridge cue from the first KFP, so I'm guessing it's an adaptation of a Zimmer idea by Powell/Balfe.

Geesh, what a clusterfuck all this is. I guess it's old-fashioned of me to say this, but why can't we just have ONE guy compose everything, no confusion, no fuss? :p


NM2015-03-02 22:30:27
Hah, well it doesn't bother me. I think it's cool when you get a couple of people going at it and high quality work results, which still has a coherent narrative. It's fun to try and pick out the different contributions.

The problem is when it becomes a "too many cooks" thing and you just end up with something disjointed. Thankfully, this score is far from.

"Yes, because Powell never uses quick trumpet writing... :p"

Haha, I can't quite describe the difference. Lorne's stuff is more... rhythm I guess? I mean Powell to me is more "Free the Five", which is more dynamic and exuberant I suppose. "More Cannons" has a harsh edge to it which evokes Balfe/Zimmer. Perhaps you're right and it genuinely was a real collaboration there with different ideas pitched in.

"The Zimmerish ascending scales are a holdover from the bridge cue from the first KFP"

Reminds me a lot of "Chess" actually.

Kardo_Fury reply Replies: 0 || 2014-10-26 06:38:13
Is there anyway you can dl this?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-02-04 03:59:37
Did Paul Mounsey do the entire first cue, or just part of it? Because the audio file only has the Story of Shen part, and that in turn was on Zimmer's page when the audio player was there....


Mike2014-02-04 15:24:55
Not sure, but it's really amazing how difficult it can be to tell each composer apart in here (besides Po Finds the Truth, most of which is obviously Zimmer). The rest sounds like Powell, but was supposedly Zimmer's contribution due to the Lorne Balfe credits...

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-08-01 15:43:22
So is Paul Mounsey to John Powell what Lorne Balfe is to Hans Zimmer? lol


Mike2013-08-01 15:46:02
That might indeed be fair to say. Mounsey has been on quite a few Powell projects (The Lorax, How To Train Your Dragon, Happy Feet Two, Kung Fu Panda 2, Mars Needs Moms, and probably more) and we all know how often Lorne works alongside Zimmer. :)


Anon12013-08-01 15:49:07
Mounsey also worked on Horton Hears a Who, Rio, Green Zone, Knight and Day, Ice Age 3 and 4, Fair Game, and Bolt--so yes, I would say he is like the Lorne Balfe of John Powell's projects.


J.A.J.2013-08-02 02:48:18
Mounsey also wrote additional music for Epic, which probably explains why parts of Danny Elfman's score sound eerily similar to John Powell's work. It's likely that the folks at Blue Sky Studios wanted to hire Powell for the umpteenth time but couldn't because of his hiatus, so they hired Mounsey (along with Elfman) to write Powell-y music.

Ted reply Replies: 2 || 2013-05-21 02:50:09
Can anyone tell me why this list doesn't seem to include "1m10/11 Father Son & Baby Po?" Was it not recorded?


Mike2013-05-21 03:58:12
This is only the "expanded score", not the "complete score".


Ted2013-05-21 22:31:10
Just thought I'd ask since it's the only thing that seems to be missing. Thanks for your answer!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2013-05-17 13:25:45
Here you go... :)


Jimmer2013-05-17 15:59:18
Oh how I want this!!!


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 16:02:23
It's out there, Jimmer...


Jimmer2013-05-17 17:22:09
Edmund, thank you. I didn't know this had leaked yet.


Anonymous2013-05-18 21:01:10
Goodness, so many HZ scores leaked this week. In fact, its been a good year or so for HZ fans (as far as leaked scores haha). I wonder what happened all of a sudden. Definitely hoping for more in the next couple of months. Maybe Pearl Harbor or Hannibal will come soon. At least, thats what I hope haha.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-18 23:45:15
It's been an absolutely amazing year for leaked complete scores in general! I have a huge backlog of them that I haven't even gotten around to listening to yet. Maybe some disgruntled RC employee quit and rage-uploaded all of them. :p

But...hasn't the complete Pearl Harbor been around for ages?


Anonymous2013-05-20 18:04:07
I don't think so. The only thing I've seen is a promo or expanded with a couple of new cues. The complete hasn't leaked, as far as I know.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-20 18:51:50
Really? My version is about 102 minutes...maybe not 100% complete for a film as long as Pearl Harbor but hardly just a promo with a couple of additional cues. I've had it for long enough that I don't even remember where I got it.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2013-05-19 00:12:12
"Maybe some disgruntled RC employee quit and rage-uploaded all of them"

LOL I can assure you it's not what happened ! :)


Ds2013-05-19 00:36:28
So basically HZ leaked them himself in an act of generosity towards his beloved fans? :p


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-19 01:34:21
Oh, I know. But wouldn't it be a funny story if it was? XD


cheesy2013-05-19 05:48:31
More like Hans had the idea to leak it and then got five different Magic Box composers to upload each file individually.


Mr. Fate2013-05-19 20:26:14
What? Only two composers make up the group Magic Box Music: John Sponsler and Tom Gire.

Mike reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-17 20:48:17
This is one of the few scores with Zimmer music where I'd say most of the notable stuff was released (the others being The Dark Knight in its 2-disc form, At World's End with all the suites from the Treasures Collection, The Last Samurai, Gladiator, and Crimson Tide).


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 22:16:38
Well, yeah, the complete score here is only about 15 minutes longer than the regular album. Powell animated scores (which this really is more than a Zimmer effort) tend to have pretty good releases that contain most if not all of the music, and always all of the really important stuff.

As for your other ones, I agree with all of them except At World's End. The Treasures Collection suites were definitely an absolute godsend, but that still didn't include Maelstrom Pt. 1 or Liftoff, which are both absolutely essential cues IMO.


Mike2013-05-17 22:26:55
Powell animated scores do tend to get good treatment. How to Train Your Dragon was an excellent album. And you're right, Maelstrom pt. 1 and Liftoff are great pieces, which is why I intentionally said the scores contain MOST of the notable stuff. ;)


Aragorn2013-05-17 22:33:14
Another great Powell release was Chicken Run!

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