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Do the cues credited to Ryan Amon contain themes from Elysium? It's been years since I listened to the OFFICIAL album and I don't recall hearing any themes of that movie.Been wanting this one for a while...Yeah I am glad there is no falling out.Yep. Jinnouchi is a pretty talented composer.Flute or panpipes? I already thought the sound was from panpipes.
Kazuma Jinnouchi helped Jackman, that's a pleasant surprise!Iím curious to what this is. Never saw the film, but I loved the first two films and their soundtracks. Thereís a theme in part two where sheís driving to the Morgan ranch (I think thatís the title) but not on official release.Just themes used, but Hans kept things close, just like for The Ring Two, supervising & debriefing the whole thing. He originally put Ben Wallfisch to score it but after Ben got other business to attend, he got Matt in... The irony, is that Matt only had a few weeks to score it in a rush in september 2016, only to find out when he finished mixing that the film was... pushed back to early 2017 !I thought Matthew uses just the Themes by HZ, or did he really compose here ?!Probably because it includes the OG Pokemon theme.
We got the answer from Hans:
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<br>Hopefully they collaborate againThanks Hybrid. Itís cool to see that Jackman worked solo on the strongest cues in the score. I wonder why the end credits piece was not included on the album though.Who composed Circle of Life flute part?Composer credits, for those interested.the album was released from fox music
Fox Music ? Disney you mean... and Disney is busy with TLK so...Awesome! I still listen to the first two scores frequently.Matthew's back, that's for sure !Just saw it as well. Honestly didnít know it was happening lol... but that would be awesome news if Matthew and Henry are co-composing together again.It's pretty good but I think it's the Mounsey cues that sounds the most convincingly Powellish here. Which makes sense given that he's worked on like every single Powell score of the last 10 years lol
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Hans ZimmerLorne BalfeMel WessonAndrew Zack
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Inception (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 160'55
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  1. Logos (0:45)
  2. Cobb Meets Saito (2:05)
  3. Extraction (7:05)
  4. Audition (1:17)
  5. I Don't Like Trains (1:06)
  6. Hotel & Helicopter (6:08)
  7. Miles Introduces Ariadne (4:53)
  8. Physics & Subconscious (3:46)
  9. Totem (1:14)
  10. Thief & A Forger (1:48)
  11. Mombasa Chase (2:33)
  12. Penrose Steps & Sleepers (5:09)
  13. Vultures Are Circling (3:15)
  14. Strategy (7:03)
  15. Dreams Or Memories (5:43)
  16. En Route (3:29)
  17. Looking Into Limbo - Interrogation (5:59)
  18. Saito's Fate (0:43)
  19. Disappointed (1:43)
  20. Mal & Cobb (7:06)
  21. Into The Van (3:13)
  22. Mr. Charles (12:34)
  23. Destabilization (2:43)
  24. Planning The Diversion (1:22)
  25. To The Complex (3:28)
  26. It's A Trap (8:51)
  27. Walking Through Limbo (4:43)
  28. An Idea Is Like A Virus (2:23)
  29. Truth Once Known (7:30)
  30. Fischer & Son (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  31. Honor Our Agreement (4:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  32. Welcome Home Mr. Cobb (3:39)
  33. F Riff Suite (1:58)
    Hans Zimmer
  34. Mal Dark Suite (7:53)
    Hans Zimmer
  35. Mombasa Suite (4:55)
  36. E Tragic Strings Suite (1:39)
  37. Kick It Suite (4:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  38. Time Suite (4:38)
    Hans Zimmer
  39. Looking Into Limbo (Alternate) (0:53)
  40. Mr. Charles (Alternate) (2:40)
  41. Incepton Trailer Music (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
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whatabout reply Replies: 1 || 2014-01-10 08:02:03
why is missing the "logos" theme in "Truth Once Known" ? on the normal album the track called "waiting for a train" and there is the theme and that france song.


badbu2014-01-10 08:55:40
i think "waiting for a train" ist the film version...

SanAntonioSpurs reply Replies: 2 || 2013-12-12 20:59:55
Miles Introduces Ariadne
Music Composed by: Lorne Balfe- because Kick It Suite same...


Mike2013-12-12 21:09:45
Yup...


SanAntonioSpurs2013-12-12 21:43:21
This music piano notes I know, I find :)

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2013-09-20 23:34:10
Am I the only one who's NOT in love with the "Dream Is Collapsing/F Riff Suite"? A lot of people say that it and Time are the highlights of the score, and Time is definitely really good (as is the rest of the score), but Dream is Collapsing doesn't do much for me. I much prefer the Kick It Suite.


MacArthur2013-09-21 00:53:56
Time Is Fantastic. Dream Is Collapsing. I Honestly think was A very good part of the score. I like it. (In terms of the other score) Dream within a Dream.

Anonymous reply Replies: 8 || 2013-09-17 16:31:54
How involved, Hybrid, is Zimmer with the use (in the film) of music he didn't write? Like the Kick it Suite.


MacArthur2013-09-17 17:32:07
I would say Zimmer did most of it. He is credited.


Mike2013-09-17 17:38:23
MacArthur, crediting is truly irrelevant. Look at Curse of the Black Pearl. Was Zimmer credited there? No, but he wrote most of the music, as we later find out.


MacArthur2013-09-17 18:17:59
Good point there but also on this site. Zimmer is credited as Composer for curse of the black pearl. I'm sure if Lorne actually wrote most or half or even 30% he would be credited as Co-Composer, Hybrid is not stupid and he knows all the stuff that goes on.


One more thing. I say that Zimmer did most of this also because, he got an oscar nomination and didn't get one for the Dark Knight. (Because of to many Composers) so I think that it is fair to credit 90% of this score to Zimmer aside from the Satio Theme Zimmer wrote most of this score. it's like The Dark Knight Rises, I think that most if not all was written by Hans, but Arranged by Balfe. See my point


Edmund Meinerts2013-09-18 08:27:31
MacArthur.

Kick It Suite is credited to Lorne Balfe. Balfe ALONE. As you say, Hybrid is not stupid, and he wouldn't do that if Hans was involved in that cue to any great extent.

To me, this score is roughly 70% Zimmer and 30% Balfe.


Mike2013-09-18 14:32:14
And let's not forget that, in addition to the Kick it Suite, which appears very often throughout the score, Balfe did another very common theme ALONE as well: Robert Fischer's. And if Hybrid's crediting is right, it looks as if he did Saito's theme, too, which is used a lot in the beginning parts of the film.


MacArthur2013-09-18 20:32:58
Ok But still on the Smaller score a lot of what I heard was Zimmer, I wouldn't credited Balfe as a Co-Composer.


Areozz2013-09-18 21:48:51
A lot of what you heard was Zimmer? What do you mean? Do you have God's ears? Can you hear, among all the dedicated composers who work with RCP, and of all the works they have all done, which pieces of music were definitely absolutely written by Hans Zimmer? I mean, a lot of other composers' stuff sounds like Hans Zimmer as well.


MacArthur2013-09-18 22:40:03
There are differences in all the Rcp Composer's leave it alone

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-11 00:13:51
I wonder why no "Mr. Charles (Alternate II)" is listed. In the film, when Cobb and Fischer are running from the projections and enter the restroom, it uses Fischer's theme, while the cue listed here uses the Mombasa theme. But then, I guess TDKR had no alternate versions of "Batman Chased", "Rooftop Fight", "Imagine the Fire", or "Fernet-Branca", which were all different in the film.

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2013-08-09 16:54:44
The Projections bonus track = the Extraction cue, but which cues make up the bonus track Don't Think About Elephants?


Nightmare2013-08-09 18:54:31
Don't Think About Elephants is a shortened version of It's A Trap.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-06-29 22:40:55
It seems like Lorne was given a lot of freedom here when it came to arranging Hans' music (as opposed to TDKR, where he just copied and pasted the music exactly as written by Zimmer). The only things in here that really seem 100% Zimmer to me are "Extraction" (since it uses the Dream is Collapsing suite almost exactly), "Mombasa Chase" and "Into the Van" (since they're just slight alterations of the Mombasa suite), "Truth Once Known" (since it borrows heavily from the Mal suite), and "Welcome Home, Mr. Cobb" (since it's basically the Time suite made into a cue).

The rest seems just loosely based on Hans' work.

Guitwo reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-16 00:43:41
i've just finished CD one with Into the Van... it's a mind blowing soundtrack to me. one of Zimmer's best by far.

And I thought i was bored by Inception's soundtrack. it's just wonderful music and then you skip to the next track ... here goes an outstanding piece and skip again to the next then you go "oh my ears!!!" and it goes on'n'on 'til the end.


Mike2013-05-16 02:28:16
This reminds me...why does this (and every complete score practically) have CD1/CD2/etc...? The score wasn't put on CDs, was it?


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-17 12:30:59
Actually you're right... We are discussing files... I'm removing them... :)


Mike2013-06-03 09:31:08
Poe, your answer is right here.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-28 05:49:22
Hybrid, can you confirm whether Lorne is responsible for Saito's theme?

Poe reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-20 19:32:45
Why no CD 1, CD 2 anymore?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-20 06:03:13
For those wondering what album tracks are cues vs. suites, it looks like the cues (perhaps edited) are:

Half-Remembered Dream (Warner Bros and Syncopy logos, slightly extended)
Radical Notion (Ariadne building a dream)
528491 (the "disappointed" scene where Fischer opens the safe)
Dream Within a Dream (a mix of fighting in the snow and walking through limbo)
Waiting for a Train (an edited version of Cobb's confession to Mal)
Paradox (Cobb going back to get Saito from Limbo)
Projections Bonus Track (the beginning mission)
Don't Think About Elephants Bonus Track (an edited version of the second part of the fortress fight)

Then the following would be suites:

Mombasa
One Simple Idea
Time
Old Souls
We Built Our Own World


Nightmare2013-05-20 06:37:31
Everything except "We built our own world" is a suite.
That track is actually a trimmed version of "Dreams or Memories"

Per reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-09 09:47:29
You guys do realize that this page has been here for quite a while now...


Anonymous2013-05-20 06:05:25
How's that?

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 2 || 2013-05-17 02:47:09
One of my personal favorite tracks in the complete score is Into The Van. I had to crank the volume way past 10!


Guitwo2013-05-17 08:50:04
same here one of my favourite (if not my favourite).


Mike2013-05-20 05:55:38
My favorites are "An Idea Is Like a Virus", "Mr. Charles", ""Into the Van", and "Fischer and Son", as well as the Time Suite. :)

Radik reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-18 10:54:28
Untitled track # 1 it's very similiar like Memento


Radik2013-05-18 10:57:02
Well I mean ''Looking Into Limbo (Alternate)''

JamesT reply Replies: 1 || 2013-05-15 04:20:01
I personally think, in the vast majority, it's hard to decompose the collaborations and contributions -- granted, there are instances where it's explicitly clear, as reflected in Hybrid's track credits and personal comments. I think it starts with Hans -- the suites, the sketch book, the original ideas -- he "plants the organic seed", which really means Music by Hans Zimmer, not at all discounting the individual contributions of a few or many. I constantly listen to Pacific Height and Point of No Return, but no more or less than TLS, Crimson, or TDKR. His sound has evolved, in a great way I think. His collaborations are wider in instances and smaller in others. The Fan will always be one of my favorite scores. I thought his early collaborations with HGW were awesome. I absolutely loved The Bible. Sorry for the rant. I think this year, particularly, is going to be a terribly impressive and highly anticipated collection of work from Hans and team. Especially with MOS. I think he is the best at it (and his team). Not even he gets it right 100% of the time -- but he almost always does and it's just pure talent and magic. Then and now.


JamesT2013-05-15 04:23:57
And I love Inception. It's just damn great much of the unreleased material is floating around...

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 30 || 2013-05-13 22:22:34
Holy crap! Why no co-composer credit for Balfe then? :p

Thanks, Hybrid, as always. :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 22:27:14
He got a producer credit, like with the Sherlocks... It's not a "little" thing on a Zimmer score. Cause it means he had his word to say on the direction to take.

Then, most of the themes are HZ. Lorne wrote some subthemes, hence the "additional music" credit, not just an "arranger". And Lorne adapted the suites into film cues... So yeah, pretty big role here...


cheesy2013-05-13 23:02:09
So basically Lorne was the one who scored to picture. Is this how scores with Hans usually go?


Mike2013-05-13 23:03:24
That seems to be how it was with TDKR, cheesy...But then, idk...


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 23:04:56
More or less. HZ still is the one who gives a go or not to a cue, gives the general direction, even reworks it himself if needed. All this is a lot more complicated than it would seem. :)


Anonymous2013-05-13 23:05:13
The thing that confuses me: if Lorne arranges most of the cues for these movies, why doesn't it say THEMES by Hans Zimmer/score by Lorne Balfe?


Mike2013-05-13 23:11:57
Because there's PROBABLY more to it than that, Anonymous.


Aragorn2013-05-14 01:54:14
@Anonymous: I bet if Hans had his way it WOULD say that. He once said:

"Originally I had this idea that it should be possible to create some kind of community around this kind of work, and I think by muddying the titles Ė not having 'you are the composer, you are the arranger, you are the orchestrator' Ė it just sort of helped us to work more collaboratively. It wasn't that important to me that I had 'score by Hans Zimmer' and took sole credit on these things. It's like Gladiator: I gave Lisa Gerrard the co-credit because, even though she didn't write the main theme, her presence and contributions were very influential. She was more than just a soloist, and this is why I have such a problem with specific credits."


cheesy2013-05-14 02:30:17
Sometimes I wonder if the director ever feels kind of snubbed by that, honestly. Most that Hans works with probably don't care too much, but I always wonder if an auteur ever comes along and says, "I hired you to work on this music, not your company or a bunch of young composers from Germany."


Mike2013-05-14 02:37:13
The only problem I have, like Anonymous and Zimmer himself, is the fact that these scores say "Music by Hans Zimmer". At most, that's untrue. At least, it's a huge oversimplification.


Ds2013-05-14 03:29:21
Mike, you're right. But on a commercial basis, it's always better to have "Music by Hans Zimmer" on the cover.

Still, there must be a reason why the "Zimmer" scores are better than the other RCP composers' individual soundtracks... Collaborative work or not, i still believe Hans has something very, very special that nobody else's got.


cheesy2013-05-14 03:55:41
@Ds About that last part, undoubtedly. That's why I said what I did earlier.

Lorne is a very talented man himself. He's an excellent arranger. He's nowhere near Zimmer but he's got a great ear for style. That's probably why Sherlock and Inception turned out so good in all forms.

Scores like the POTC quadrilogy, on the other hand, who involve 20 different random arrangers from god knows where to stitch together cues out of 10 minutes of Zimmer music? It shows. The suites and themes are some of the best Zimmer's ever done, but a lot of the film cues sound like horse shit.

Hans Zimmer is one of the greatest film composers of our generation, but there has been a palpable quality decrease in his film arrangements over the past 10 years or so, because his involvement becomes less and less. Take the Batman trilogy. Holy shit, the complete score for Batman Begins is so good. Each and every cue has its own identity and purpose. Three years later, TDK is awesome, too, but what you hear in the film just doesn't seem as sound.

Now, four years after that, take a look at the complete score for TDKR. Tracks literally sound like fan edits. If someone had sent me tracks like "All Out War" or "Stock Exchange" claiming they were legitimate, I'd tell them to stop trying to pull shit over me. It's ridiculous. The suites and themes done by Zimmer are incredible, but hardly any of them are used.

The "collaborative musical efforts" thing can only go so far. It started out as that and sounded pretty great, but has now been reduced to almost disregarding the film mix completely.


MGDrone2013-05-14 04:54:34
cheesy, you made an excellent point earlier about Hans' work with the directors. As much as it might seem that Hans does a small percent of the work, or that the arrangers do a huge part of the work, come on guys let be a little realistic here. A man like Hans Zimmer doesn't make it to be the most influential and sought after composer today if he were really sitting back for the majority of the process and letting his assistants do most of the work. He's got the directors, the producers, the studio execs, etc breathing down his back throughout the process. This is still a professional job. Now, granted, his assistants deserve a certain amount of respect and recognition. They're recognized by the directors Im sure. But I'm pretty sure that even Gore Verbinski, Chris Nolan, Ridley Scott (back in the day), etc know/knew that the assistants weren't really involved in the creative work. Come on guys! Who writes the themes and melodies (the very foundation of a score)?! Who comes up with the sound palette, and all of the creative decisions?! Hans Zimmer! And, at the end of the day, what are the arrangers REALLY doing?! Taking HIS music and tweaking it a little, and not even all the time. Sometimes, they simply COPY and PASTE portions of his theme suites. And, if Hans doesn't approve, he says so and it doesn't get done. Take TDKR, for instance. I mean, goodness, the whole score is portions of Bane Suite, Moody Bruce... Suite, Cat Suite (I haven't even heard the whole thing), past theme suites, and past cues from BB and TDK. What the heck is the point of crediting Lorne Balfe, or any of the other arrangers? It's a formality. To me, TDKR is 100% Hans, because youre listening to HIS music from start to finish! I would also argue that in many cases we simply dont know how much music (theme suites) Hans came up with in the eraly stages of a project. Yes, there are other cases when the assistants actually write original music for the score, but if you make some careful observations, you'll find that it's really not as often as people generally suppose. And at the end of the day, you must ask yourself the critical question, whose music am I really listening to?! I'll be honest, if an RCP guy working on a score with Hans didn't actually write a theme or melody (like Zanelli with POTC 1-3, Balfe with Megamind, etc) I'm skeptical as to the extent of their influence on the entire score. Especially because generally most of them have had weak solo scores.


NM2013-05-14 05:12:27
@cheesy I think "All Out War" et al were just edited versions of the Bane suite, don't think they bothered re-recording it for whatever reason. Admittedly, it sounds incredibly choppy and poorly-edited listening on the CD, but in the film you don't notice.

@MGDrone "Taking HIS music and tweaking it a little, and not even all the time. Sometimes, they simply COPY and PASTE portions of his theme suites." - I think a lot of the time, the music is a LOT more than just tweaked though. The additional composers did a hell of a lot more than just 'tweak' the Rango suite for example.


Mike2013-05-14 05:12:41
"...the whole score is portions of Bane Suite, Moody Bruce... Suite, Cat Suite... To me, TDKR is 100% Hans, because youre listening to HIS music from start to finish!"

That's true, and in TDKR's case I can see why they would just say "Music by Hans Zimmer". As you said, the music was all just different arrangements of themes he himself wrote. But what about Inception, where Lorne not only arranged MOST of the cues but also wrote Fischer's theme (if I'm not mistaken...), as well as the "One Simple Idea" theme? I'd say he definitely deserves co-composer credit.

And Geoff Zanelli is another example--he wrote the Spanish theme for POTC4, worked on a LOT of cues, wrote Calypso's theme for POTC2/3...Doesn't that deserve more credit than simply "additional music".


Aragorn2013-05-14 05:25:13
Would it be going too far to say that Lorne did as much on Inception as James Newton Howard did on The Dark Knight?


cheesy2013-05-14 05:31:47
No, I definitely wouldn't say that. From what I can gather the only recurring themes that belong to Lorne are Saito's Limbo theme and the theme for Fischer.


Aragorn2013-05-14 05:42:30
Maybe I'm showing my stupidity here, but did JNH write anything in TDK other than Harvey Dent's theme and whatever obvious JNH material was reprised from BB?


Mike2013-05-14 05:52:53
I know that in addition to Dent's theme and BB stuff, JNH also
did the scenes involving Harvey Dent and Thomas Schiff, and he also scored Dent's final scene in the movie.


Anonymous2013-05-14 05:55:04
And despite the fact that it was mostly Hans' work, I believe JNH had a hand in the main "Dark Knight" theme.


Vladimir 2013-05-14 06:10:08
cheesy, how do you know lorne did saito's limbo theme?


cheesy2013-05-14 06:23:41
Because Hans did the theme suites himself, none of which include that theme, and the only instance of it occurring by itself is "Saito's Fate," which is credited exclusively to Lorne.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-14 09:06:58
"...the whole score is portions of Bane Suite, Moody Bruce... Suite, Cat Suite... To me, TDKR is 100% Hans, because youre listening to HIS music from start to finish!"

That's what everyone working on those scores, including Lorne, would say... ;)


JNH did the Two-Face theme, "Eye For An Eye", as well... :)


matthew2013-05-14 11:12:52
the last harvey scene? you mean Watch The World Burn? (official release)
that music is kind of a signature for Hans...
he wrote it for Gladiator (Am I not Merciful?) but he used it in Pearl Harbor / Angels & Demons


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-14 11:20:53
"Watch the World Burn" is definitely JNH. Hans must have temp-tracked it into "Immolation" from Angels and Demons...but JNH also temp-tracked it into "The Stampede" from Water for Elephants!


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-14 11:21:20
Yeah it sounds a bit similar, but it's 100% JNH, trust me... After he wrote that he thought he had done everything he could on a Batman movie...


cheesy2013-05-14 13:25:50
I'll bet he did, as he should. One of my favorite cues of all time.


Anonymous2013-05-14 23:41:34
I'd love to know what TDKR would've been like, had JNH been involved...


Mike2013-05-14 23:44:12
I feel like JNH would have composed Selina Kyle's theme.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-14 23:58:24
I'll probably take flak for this, but I think a JNH-composed Selina Kyle theme would have been better than what we got... ^^


Mike2013-05-15 00:12:11
I don't know that it would be better per se, but I do think it would be interesting and I would welcome the chance to hear such a thing.

Sean Connery reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-14 23:56:26
The Mombasa Chase cue is great stuff!! Far better than the suite.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-14 05:29:33
An Idea Is Like a Virus is awesome

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-13 15:35:59
''Mr. Charles'' absolutely mind blow cue Thanks for this release :)

Jimmer reply Replies: 4 || 2013-05-13 12:47:14
Hybrid, can you tell us who composed what on this? Like, how much was Balfe involved? Just curious, as always. Thanks.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-13 12:57:06
Seconded. Balfe was pretty deeply involved in this one, wasn't he? I mean, considering how many of his scores since have sounded a lot like Inception I wouldn't be surprised. :p


T-Mann0362013-05-13 14:48:28
From what we know, so far, is that Lorne have composed "Fischer & Son", "Honor Our Agreement", "Kick It Suite", and "Trailer Music".


cheesy2013-05-13 14:59:44
So was Lorne responsible for these themes generally, or just these arrangements? Because the theme in "Kick It Suite" is used in different ways throughout the entire movie. Plus "Honor Our Arrangement" includes the main theme at the beginning and the Saito/Limbo theme at the end.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 15:04:32
I added them... Nothing official, but it should be pretty accurate...

Jimmer reply Replies: 10 || 2013-05-12 14:37:48
Well, I believe this has just been leaked. You know where to go...


T-Mann0362013-05-12 15:02:50
Mission: COMPLETE


Stygian2013-05-12 15:25:10
yes, yes it has.


al bundy2013-05-12 15:30:15
agreed. it got leaked.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-12 16:23:24
Haaaaaa fantastic the nonsense here will have a break. As long as possible I hope.


Mr Motivator2013-05-12 16:40:39
Hopefully....once one score is leaked they leach onto the next. i am seeing the last samurai next on here.


Nightmare2013-05-12 18:57:42
I'd rather see Hannibal next, but I'm quite satisfied with Inception and Sherlock Holmes for the time being. We should all be grateful and patient for the next arrival.


Anonymous2013-05-13 00:11:05
Well I download all 3 leaked full scores and I am still wondering what all the fuss is about cause all the interesting and award winning moments where on the commercial releases (with bonus tracks).

The only Zimmer complete score so far that I think really improves about a 100 times on the commercial release is Pirates 3 At Worlds End.


Hybrid Soldier2013-05-13 00:15:43
You crazy ? :O

Thief & A Forger ? Strategy ? Hell, even Welcome Home Mr Cobb is (to me) a better arrangement than HZ's Time Suite itself !


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-13 00:19:26
Ahh, At World's End...I doubt Hans or anyone else in RCP is ever going to top that stroke of genius. Inception doesn't even come close. ;)


Mike2013-05-13 00:24:06
I'm with Hybrid here: are you crazy?!

Aragorn reply Replies: 6 || 2013-05-11 10:00:44
Is Old Souls on the album part of the Mal Dark Suite?


Mike2013-05-11 10:04:00
I believe "Old Souls" on the album IS the Mal Dark Suite. Observe the lengths: practically identical, give or take a couple seconds. Plus, didn't Hybrid say Old Souls was a suite? It would only make sense that it's that one.


Aragorn2013-05-11 10:13:27
So let's see...Judging by lengths, it may be fair to say that:

F Riff Suite = One Simple Idea
Mal Dark Suite = Old Souls
Mombasa Suite = Mombasa (obviously)
Kick It Suite = Maybe an extended version of Dream is Collapsing?
Time Suite = Time (obviously)

Can you confirm anything, Hybrid?


Anonymous2013-05-11 10:15:24
But the kick it suite is like half the length of dream is collapsing...


Mike2013-05-11 10:20:13
Anonymous, that's irrelevant. Hans is known to cut down suites for album releases. For example, the original version of the "Dark Knight" suite was 19 minutes, cut down to 16 for the album. The Harvey Dent suite was 10 minutes, cut down to 6 on the album. The upcoming 28 minute suite from Man of Steel was originally 35 minutes (7 minutes cut away is considerable).

So don't go by lengths. ;)


Mike2013-05-11 10:21:35
And I believe you meant to say that the Kick It Suite is TWICE (not half) the length of Dream is Collapsing.


Nightmare2013-05-12 05:36:01
Kick It Suite: One Simple Idea
F Riff Suite: Dream Is Collapsing
This makes sense because "Kick It" can be found on Lorne Balfe's website.

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2013-05-09 07:52:33
Now I'm confident any complete score can see release.


Nerd2013-05-09 07:58:19
Like The Last Samurai...


Nightmare2013-05-09 07:58:55
Or Hannibal!


Stygian2013-05-11 05:18:28
i would also love the sessions for the last samurai (incl. inserts, alternate mixes, etc.)


greg2013-05-11 09:38:42
Yes please all of you stop this shit and now start bitching about the last samurai so that it finds its place here as well

Cobb reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-11 10:30:05
The way you hear the amazing music play as he opens his eyes, and you know it's all over...Ah, so amazing. :)

Mark reply Replies: 6 || 2013-05-09 17:43:34
01. 1m00 Logos 0:44
02. 1m01 Cobb Meets Saito 2:05
03. 1m02 Extraction 7:04
04. 1m03 Audition 1:16
05. 1m06 I Don't Like Trains 1:05
06. 1m07 Hotel & Helicopter 6:06
07. 2m08 Miles Introduces Ariadne 4:52
08. 2m10 Physics & Subconscious 3:47
09. 2m11 Totem 1:14
10. 2m12 Thief & A Forger 1:48
11. 2m13 Mombassa Chase 2:37
12. 3m14 Penrose Steps & Sleepers 5:08
13. 3m15 Vultures Are Circling 3:14
14. 3m16 Strategy 7:02
15. 3m18 Dreams Or Memories 5:55
16. 4m19 En Route 3:30
17. 4m22 Insert 0:53
18. 4m22 Looking Into Limbo 5:57
19. 4m23 Saito's Fate 0:43
20. 4m24 Disappointed 1:38
21. 4m25 Mal & Cobb 6:57
22. 5m26 Into The Van 3:12
23. 5m27 Insert 2:45
24. 5m27 Mr. Charles 12:36
25. 5m28 Destabilization 2:42
26. 6m29 Planning The Diversion 1:21
27. 6m30-33 To The Complex 3:25
28. 6m35-36 It's A Trap 8:50
29. 6m37 Walking Through Limbo 4:43
30. 7m38 An Idea Is Like A Virus 2:22
31. 7m39-43 Truth Once Known 8:00
32. 7m44 Fischer & Son 3:27
33. 7m46 Honor Our Agreement 4:47
34. 7m47 Welcome Home Mr. Cobb 3:40
35. Kick It Suite 4:07
36. Mombassa Suite 4:59
37. Riff Suite 2:43
38. Time Suite 4:37


Nightmare2013-05-09 17:50:29
We already have a track list, thank you.


Mark2013-05-09 17:52:23
Not with slate numbers.


greg2013-05-09 18:31:14
Genius


Radik2013-05-09 19:38:41
Just as you :P :D


Stygian2013-05-11 05:14:50
is anyone else finding it funny that he posted under the name Mark...


Nightmare2013-05-11 05:21:28
Mark G?
I'm laughing my ass off it's so funny.
Really though...Unless the G stands for Garage?

Preacher reply Replies: 2 || 2013-05-10 22:09:02
Which album tracks were edited to make the alternates?


Mike2013-05-11 03:39:33
I'd love to figure that out as well...


Anonymous1232013-05-11 04:30:26
Mal Dark Suite = Old Souls
TrŠiler Music = Composed by Lorne Balfe.

With these two tracks you will complete The Recording Sessions that will be leaked son.

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-11 02:57:34
The TrŠiler Music is composed by Lorne Balfe

anon. reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-09 19:46:49
There is an expanded score floating around the internet. It has most of these tracks, as well as a 25 minute suite. Do you think this "complete score" will include that suite?


Mr. Fate2013-05-09 20:28:06
Clearly not, or else we would see it on the list above.


Mike2013-05-10 02:49:16
If this site (especially more recently) has a page for a complete or expanded film score, you should disregard mentions of other versions.


Rene2013-05-10 21:11:25
and about what you say of a 25 minute suite, may be is (F Riff, Mal Dark,Mombasa, Kick It, Time suites) compound in one...

Mr. JarJar reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-09 18:23:19
I Do Like This Cover.... But I Liked Mine Better! Lol.

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