"Red's Theater Of The Absurd" Written & Produced by Jack White Performed by Pokey LaFarge & The South City Three Band Members: Pokey LaFarge, Joey Glynn, Adam Hoskins & Ryan Koening
Score Composed & Produced by Hans Zimmer
Executive Soundtrack Album Producers: Jerry Bruckheimer & Gore Verbinski Executive in Charge of Music & Soundtracks for The Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures Group & The Disney Music Group: Mitchell Leib
Additional Music by Geoff Zanelli, Rupert Gregon-Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Andrew Kawczynski, Jasha Klebe & Lorne Balfe
Music Business/Legal Affairs for The Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures Group: Scott Holtzman, Sylvia Krask & Don Welty Music Production for The Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures Group: Monica Zierhut Supervising Music Editor: Kenneth Karman Music Wrangler: Bob Badami Music Editors: Pete Oso Snell & Katie Greathouse Sample Development: Claudius Bruese, Ben Robinson, Raul Vega & Taurees Habib Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry
Featured Musicians: Nico Abondolo, Jason Bonham, Ann Marie Calhoun, Anthony Clarke, Mike Einzinger, Pedro Eustache, Aleksey Igudesman, Arturo Sandoval & Tristan Schulze
Supervising Orchestrator: Bruce Fowler Orchestrations by Walt Fowler, Kevin Kaska, Suzette Moriarty & Carl Rydlund Music Preparation by Booker White, Walt Disney Music Library Score Recorded by Joel Iwataki Score Mixed by Daniel Kresco & Satoshi Noguchi Album Mixed by Daniel Kresco Digital Workstation Operators: Kevin Globerman & Vincent Cirilli Orchestra Conducted by Nick Glennie-Smith Scored Recorded at Sony Scoring Stage, The Newman Scoring Stage Scored Recorded & Mixed at Remote Control Studios Orchestra Contractor: Peter Rotter Assistant Orchestra Contractors: Megan Wintory & Yvonne Tranne-MacDonald Concert Master: Belinda Broughton Music Production Services: Steve Kofsky Score Coordination for Remote Control Productions: Czarina Russell Technical Assistants: Chuck Choi, Brian Wherry & Phill Boucher Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry Assistant Engineers: Christian Wenger, Tim Lauber & Adam Michalak
Hans Zimmer would like to thank: Gore Verbinski, Jerry Bruckheimer, Morgan Des Griseillers, Mitchell Leib, Monica Zierhut, Amy Robinson, Michael Breidenbrücker, Pat Sandston, Craig Wood, James Haygood, Shari Hanson
Bonnie Abaunza, Jillian Abood, Lorne Balfe, Tiffany Bordenave, Chris Boyes, Candace Carlo, Jordi Vazquez Cecilia, Leland Cox, Nick Douillard, Mike Einziger, Ariel Emanuel, James, Trish & Max Golfar, Peter Gorges, Michael Hein, Axel Henson, Elizabeth & Martin Holdgate, Kai Krause, Chaz Labrecque, Amy Magrish, Christina Mansky, Paul Massey, Amos Newman, Albert Nolasco, Ryan Ouchida, Kathy & Stephen Paine, Bradley Rainey, Catherine Sanderson, Shalini Singh, Chris Strong, Stéphane Vidali, Brigitte Zimmer, Zoë Zimmer, Jake, Annabel, Max & Suzanne Zimmer, and the entire staff at The Walt Disney Studios Music Department and the Disney Music Group
Release date : 07/02/2013
Never Take Off The Mask (1:08)
Absurdity (4:58)
Silver (4:00)
Ride (4:17)
You've Looked Better (3:09)
Red's Theater Of The Absurd - Pokey LaFarge & The South City Three (3:02)
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The music specifically during the scene with the mask sounds very similar to Rango/Broken Arrow. I also understand Zimmer will be using some of the percussion instruments from Sherlock Holmes as well...
Prott
2013-06-25 12:20:23
To me it actually sounds much more similar to AwE than Rango or Broken Arrow - and that's really not a bad thing! :)
Meta
2013-06-26 08:21:34
The arrested clip of the film floating around has a score that is very reminiscent of Sherlock Holmes...
I like what I hear. I clicked the "music" link thinking it would take me to the film's score along with samples but NOPE. Just fucking Disney trying to make as much money as they can. I present: "Music Inspired By":
1.) Ben Kweller, "Holy Water" 2.) Grace Potter and The Nocturnals, "Devil's Train" 3.) Shane MacGowan, "Poor Paddy on the Railway" 4.) Pete Molinari, "So Long Gone" 5.) Sara Watkins, "Central and Union" 6.) The White Buffalo, "The American Dream" 7.) Dave Alvin, "Lonesome Whistle" 8.) Iggy Pop, "Sweet Betsy from Pike" 9.) Iron and Wine, "Rattling Bone" 10.) The Rubens, "Cowboy" 11.) Lucinda Williams, "Everything but the Truth" 12.) The Aggrolites, "The Truth Lives On" 13.) Gomez, "Butch's Ballad" 14.) John Grant, "Saddle the Wind"
Dimitris Krommidas
2013-06-25 22:26:01
They will put the score album on the official site once the sambles will be releast.
meta
2013-06-26 07:19:11
Well they better hurry up with those samples cuz the score is coming out on Tuesday....
Hybrid, do you know if this score was at all like Curse of the Black Pearl (that is, rushed schedule where Hans writes some demo themes and everyone goes to work to quickly arrange it for the film)?
Mike
2013-06-23 02:32:05
arrange them*
lp
2013-06-25 23:26:37
The score wasn't rushed. Though Hans was not a part of production like he was with MOS.
Tracklist is out! 1. Never Take Off the Mask (1:08) 2. Absurdity (4:58) 3. Silver (4:00) 4. Ride (4:17) 5. You’ve Looked Better (3:09) 6. Red’s Theater of the Absurd – Pokey LaFarge and the South City Three (3:02) 7. The Railroad Waits for No One (3:09) 8. You’re Just a Man in a Mask (4:14) 9. For God and for Country (4:53) 10. Finale (9:51) 11. Home (6:55)
Dimitris Krommidas
2013-06-19 11:17:07
Mr Hybrid, is this the correct tracklist??
Antas, Webmaster
2013-06-19 11:25:42
Yes, it's the official tracklist
Ds
2013-06-19 11:50:23
Track lengths are satisfying :) i expect something very epic in "Finale" and "Home" :)
...
2013-06-19 12:15:01
The last tracks look good, but 11 tracks seems to little.
Ds
2013-06-19 13:16:32
Total time is 49'36", with exactly 46'34" of score. What i like is that the tracks are all pretty long, instead of the very short tracks of Pirates 4 or Rango.
Meta
2013-06-20 18:58:29
6. Red’s Theater of the Absurd – Pokey LaFarge and the South City Three (3:02)
Well...That's 3 minutes of score you can chip away, considering this is a song....
Ds
2013-06-20 20:14:08
I took that into account, re-read my post :)
meta
2013-06-21 06:43:25
i know you did...i made a rumination about it.
Disney cant go ONE Hans Zimmer OST without throwing a song in there....
Mike
2013-06-21 07:29:49
Curse of the Black Pearl? That is just score, no remixes or songs. Dead Man's Chest had a remix, At World's End had a whole album of remixes, and On Stranger Tides was half remixes.
Dimitris Krommidas
2013-06-21 11:58:32
At Worlds End, the score album, was great!!! the best of all 4!!!
Meta
2013-06-21 17:24:28
So in other words, Disney has been sneaking songs into their Hans Zimmer soundtracks since Black Pearl...
Pirates 4 being the biggest culprit.
Richard
2013-06-21 19:39:02
POTC 4 was the worst release ever. So glad for the Demo Score!
Cabox
2013-06-23 02:57:25
I wonder when we'll hear some samples, digital release date is 10 days away
HZ interview with Collider, about The Lone Ranger:
"Lone Ranger, I finished yesterday. So I’m still reeling from it. It’s my friend Gore Verbinski. I have absolutely no perspective on it other than it’s an honorable and honest piece of work. There are the comic books, and there are the Westerns, and those are what I grew up with. It’s a magnificent movie."
Full interview: collider.com/hans-zimmer-man-of-steel-interstellar-rush-inte rview/
This is a very intriguing one, because actually we absolutely have NO clue how it'll sound. Western-like? I don't think so, Zimmer's already done that with Rango. Rock'n'roll? It's possible because Jack White was previously attached, maybe Verbinski wants to go that way. The first trailers were all rock-based.
I just hope this will be very different from PotC. Disney's marketing is trying so hard to link The Lone Ranger to the Pirates movies that i have to say i'm a bit worried for the soundtrack...
Mike
2013-05-14 00:16:16
We don't know, strictly speaking, what Man of Steel will sound like either! It's the year of truly original Hans Zimmer scores!
Ds
2013-05-14 00:20:19
Hum... for now we have 3 full tracks of Man of Steel + 1min of all the other ones. So we have at least a little idea of how it'll sound like :p
Hybrid Soldier
2013-05-14 00:21:08
And from HZ, TLR won't sound anything like MOS either...
Mike
2013-05-14 00:21:19
Hence the addition of the words, "strictly speaking". ;)
Mike
2013-05-14 00:22:53
Wait a minute, Ds, what is the third track? I know we've heard DNA, Ignition, and then also the Trailer 3 music.
Ds
2013-05-14 00:29:12
Yep. Hans said the track from trailer #3 was part of the score (the original piece is a bit longer). So basically we've heard 3 full tracks. Ok, 2.8 tracks, if you insist :p
The score for Pirates 4 was great and epic, in the film and in the album. As a fan of Hans Zimmer I love all his scores. He is my favorite composer with the best style in composition.No other has it. I believe that Pirates 4 score was an honor for the old themes and that was great. There is new themes, like Angelica, Blackbeard, The Spanish Empire and is all incredible work. Even the album for Pirates 4 with the so much negative reviews is good because Mr Zimmer wanted to make a different job on it from the other Pirates albums. All the tracks is great and some of them lenghty like "Mermaids" Even the remixes is good, and I believed Mr Zimmer when he said, that the remixes works good with the tunes. Anyway, I appreciate Pirates 4 score. Sorry for my english. Greetings from Greece!! :)
Hybrid Soldier
2013-04-30 09:48:04
Don't get me wrong, I like POTC 4 (despite the heavy temptrack problems). You can just feel while listening to it they didn't have (apart from Geoff's work, maybe) fun at all doing it... It sounds nothing like the previous entries...
It's hard to describe, just a feeling...
Mike
2013-04-30 09:54:14
I can't deny I enjoy listening to POTC4. Angelica and Mermaids are both very good. Even the rehashed stuff like Palm Tree Escape is enjoyable, but that's because Pirates of the Caribbean music is good in and of itself, rehashed or not. But it's a shame that the final score had to turn out the way it did.
Dimitris Krommidas
2013-04-30 10:41:08
Mr Hybrid Soldier I dont get you wrong. I appreciate all your comments and replies. I agree with you.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-04-30 11:51:28
The score to Pirates 4 was an enormous, stinking mess. Yes, the new themes are good...but that's about it. 90% of it is direct lifts out of the old scores, and if I wanted to hear that, I'd listen to the old scores. The temptracking is so blatant that you even get theme statements that make ABSOLUTELY no sense at all - either that or I must have missed Davy Jones' cameo in the London chase.
As for the remixes...That sort of thing isn't for me, but I wouldn't have minded if they had released a bunch of remixes on a separate album (like Tron Reconfigured). Slapped onto the regular album like that makes it very apparent their true purpose: to cover up the lack of new material in the actual score. Same with the Rodrigo y Gabriela stuff...I liked it when the guitars were integrated into the score (Palm Tree Escape, despite being mostly old material, was made to feel at least a little fresh that way), but the jam sessions? Totally unnecessary.
In my opinion, Hans is right on the money when he claims Pirates 4 to be his worst score. IMO, Pirates 3 is his best. That's why you can just imagine how disappointed I was when I heard it. And Dimitris, being a fan is OK, but you have to be at least a little objective. Not everything HZ does is "great and epic".
Johnson
2013-04-30 18:38:20
well, Zimmer pretty much DID blow his wad with Pirates 3 completing a trilogy...Pirates 4 seems more of an afterthought, musically speaking.
Mike
2013-04-30 19:16:44
Perfectly said, Edmund.
Aragorn
2013-04-30 19:19:19
POTC3 was one of Zimmer's finest scores, though. That and the Last Samurai if you ask me.
Anonymous
2013-05-03 09:09:30
The thing I find ironic is that one of the best parts of the score, the Spanish theme, wasn't even by Zimmer. It was by Geoff Zanelli. The mermaid music was really nice, though.
Mike
2013-05-03 09:12:04
You sure it was composed by Geoff Zanelli, and not simply arranged by Geoff Zanelli from a pre-existing theme?
It seems like Geoff Zanelli's working a lot with Hans again...Did he work on Rush, too?
Hybrid Soldier
2013-04-30 09:01:05
Geoff just helped a bit on MOS. For TLR, he really is the "number 2" guy, like on the last HZ / Verbinski (Rango, POTC 1, 2 & 3)...
And to me, the natural choice for a POTC without Hans is SO obviously Geoff, who's written a lot of the whole saga already... :)
Mike
2013-04-30 09:03:38
I agree, Hybrid. Zanelli would be a good choice, since he's had so much experience with the films.
Aragorn
2013-04-30 19:26:08
Are the additional composers on a given page listed in the order of how much work they did? So on Man of Steel, if Geoff Zanelli is listed as the first additional composer, does that mean he did the most additional work? Because if that's the case, and he only did "a bit", does that mean Man of Steel was mostly Hans and only Hans? Doesn't really matter as long as the score is good, just curious.
That is sad news, about Mr Zimmer not scoring Pirates 5. And for Pirates 4 he said the same and hopefully for us he score it. I was very very happy to read the news at that time about him scoring Pirates 4. I just wish now that he will score Pirates 5, because there is no Pirates of the Caribbean without Mr. Zimmer or any other member of the anthology. For instance, Johnny Depp. As for Mr. Depp, he confirmed that he will do Pirates 5 and 6 and probably 7 because he is Captain Jack.
Bioscope
2013-04-29 12:21:08
Well.....there is that ex-MV/RCP dude who got a full composer's credit on TCOTBP. Klaus could do with an international AAA title movie again :) I wonder if he still has a patent on Jack Sparrow's theme?
Blu
2013-04-29 12:46:14
Henry Jackman or Harry Gregson-Williams could do a fine job too.
NM
2013-04-29 13:09:11
Would LOVE to see what HGW could do with POTC. Prince of Persia was an awesome score.
Macejko
2013-04-29 15:15:36
Ramin Djawadi would do an awesome job. Jackman is everywhere these days and HGW lost his touch.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-04-30 01:19:53
Jackman seems to me one of the best choices for a potential Pirates 5, his stuff on At World's End was brilliant and his orchestral style in e.g. Gulliver's Travels is a pretty good match for Pirates. Geoff Zanelli wouldn't be a bad choice either since he has so much experience working with HZ's themes in this series - or else maybe Jim Dooley. Ramin Djawadi...meh. Haven't really heard anything "adventurous" from him, so he doesn't strike me as a good pick. HGW would be an interesting one, hopefully it would be the score to put him back on the map (another Sinbad-level score would be amazing), but he's more miss than hit these days (Prince of Persia was good though). Steve Jablonsky in Steamboy mode would be even more amazing, but that's a pipe dream if ever I saw one.
A part of me is still curious about Silvestri's rejected score but PotC ought really to stay with an RCP composer. Preferably one who worked on the originals at some point.
Although if I'm totally honest I kind of hope the franchise is over, it doesn't seem like they can do much with it, musically or film-wise.
Mike
2013-04-30 01:33:47
I hate to sound cynical, but the only reason I was even remotely interested in POTC5 was because of a possible score by Zimmer to redeem his work in #4. Now that he's not attached, they should just forget this movie. It's a cash-in.
Scorefan
2013-04-30 04:39:01
Maybe Henry Jackman will be a good choice. But i want to hear Alan Silvestri or Maybe John Debney in this movie. John Debney made an amazing work in Cutthroat Island and maybe we can hear what Silvestri had in mind before he was fired by Bruckheimer.
I get a feeling this soundtrack will be like Rango....I say this because it seems Zimmer employed himself more on Man of Steel than this score...And Disney soundtrack releases have been pretty crapola with regards to his work, so....
I expect short score as well.
Hybrid Soldier
2013-04-28 18:07:23
Why would you all say that regarding HZ's commitment to Lone Ranger ?
Guys, Hans finished Man of Steel a long time ago, and started LR after MOS was completed. Sure the schedule is a little more complicated to handle (and they currently are rushing to finish and record it).
But it's a Verbinski project, who's very close to HZ, just like Nolan. Hans told me LR & MOS "couldn't be more different scores from each other". I clearly don't see why LR would be a "lesser" one. :)
johnson
2013-04-28 22:31:21
I say lesser because after seeing the Man of Steel treatment we will essentially get lesser just like we did with Pirates 4 and Rango on cd...
Hopefully not, but we've already see what Disney does with their score releases, sadly. I wasn't a fan of the Pirates 4 release...Nor the Rango release. Both left me wanting.
In other words my hope is floating like a fart in the wind.
Oh well, at least the Man of Steel camp is getting the full monty...
Ds
2013-04-28 23:33:29
RANGO IS NOT FROM DISNEY!!!
Jasper
2013-04-28 23:56:45
I'm just hoping this one will have a cool western vibe to it, as well as same exciting action cues and good themes.
Mike
2013-04-29 01:21:32
Hybrid, the news about Hans not wanting to score POTC4 is really interesting. Do you know why he didn't want to?
Johnson
2013-04-29 03:20:22
I KNOW RANGO IS NOT FROM DISNEY
I INCLUDED IT ANYWAY CUZ ITS OF THE SAME KIND
Jesus Christ...
Areozz
2013-04-29 04:50:01
It's not of the same kind of record label...
Hybrid Soldier
2013-04-29 08:47:18
No I didn't say didn't want to do it...
It's how it happened who made HZ regret it (temptrack, no freedom, every original idea rejected...). He considers that score being the low point of his career, no less ! He already told Disney he won't score POTC 5.
Even most of the team who worked on it confirmed to me it was a terrible experience...
Ds
2013-04-29 09:59:36
So Disney are f*cked for the 5th. Maybe a good time to call Alan Silvestri back and finally use his rejected score. And see the movie flop hard.
JOhnson
2013-04-29 17:18:29
Um no. The kind I refer to is the kind of release where you have minimal score, followed by remixes and or songs on the cd....
THAT KIND...
Mike
2013-04-29 21:07:49
Oh, I see. Thanks for clarifying. If Hans' name won't be attached to POTC5, which would probably be a lame movie anyway, Disney should cancel all plans for it NOW.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-04-30 00:56:22
Very interesting, Hybrid. I'm glad that Hans feels that way about the score and it's good to know that On Stranger Tides was mostly not his fault...that score took away a good chunk of my faith for him.
It is obvious that the current cover is only a placeholder, but looking back, I remember I read a comment on Geoff Zanelli's website regarding his work on the first Pirates of the Caribbean, and how their very tight schedule had them choose cue titles for the CD before the music was even written. This placeholder cover makes me wonder if a similar scenario is about to happen to Lone Ranger!
Here's hoping that The Lone Ranger will be released with a decent release. I felt Disney has been slacking a bit in that department lately, P4 and Rango were awful releases. But I'm hoping for the best!
Ds
2013-04-27 21:12:07
Rango isn't from Disney!! But yeah i fear we'll only get 50' of music.
Richard
2013-04-28 18:27:35
Yea, P4 was a terrible release, and P3 was missing some key pieces. Hoping they step it up and give us more score! I mean look at movies like Star Wars, they give you just about the ENTIRE score ( Aside from Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith )! Another example is Ice Age 3 or How to Train Your Dragon. Don't see why they can't do that with Zimmer scores, unless maybe it's THAT valuable haha
Edmund Meinerts
2013-04-28 18:34:56
Well, with Ice Age 3 and How to Train Your Dragon, the complete score isn't all that long, and the vast majority of it is able to fit on one CD (the complete HTTYD only added about 10 minutes). On the other hand, a movie like Man of Steel or (probably) The Lone Ranger requires at least two hours of score, and for Zimmer these days you have to add another half hour or so because of the inevitable theme suites and such. And the casual moviegoer (who still constitute the majority of soundtrack purchases) probably isn't interested in sitting through 2-3 CDs of music.
As for Star Wars, well, those movies are considerably older and have gone through a lot of album releases of varying completeness, and I don't think it was until '97 that they were available for the original trilogy. We still haven't seen satisfactory complete releases for the prequels (the Ultimate Edition of Phantom Menace is a mess).
P4 was a terrible release, but don't forget that it was also a terrible score, and there was simply no way to disguise it.
Richard
2013-04-28 18:45:30
You make good points, Edmund. Zimmer just has to put out the score suites in the album ( I love those, don't get me wrong ), which makes it longer xD I also doubt the average moviegoer would want to listen to that much - which is why they should STILL release these dismal-like albums. But they should at least make the complete score available, even if it's only by ordering it online. They don't have to force stores to carry it, just make it available on Amazon. That way, they can charge MORE money for those, and the hardcore fans like us would still pay, hence, more money for the producers/composers/moviemakers/etc!
Hybrid Soldier
2013-04-28 19:10:51
You guys don't seem really aware of the term "reuse fees" for LA recorded scores...
And stop complaining about the POTC 4 release, it's a particular one, Hans wishes he had never scored that film.
NM
2013-04-28 19:17:26
Why's that?
Edmund Meinerts
2013-04-28 19:20:57
Yeah, forgot about the reuse fee issue as well. That's probably the real reason why 2-CD releases are the exception rather than the rule.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-04-28 19:21:39
And I wish Hans hadn't scored Pirates 4 either. At least he's honest about it. ^^
Johnson
2013-04-28 22:27:18
Didn't Hans Zimmer NOT score Pirates 4?
all I recall from that score are Rodrigo and Gabriella jam sessions, and Lorne Balfe and co. doing most the legwork, anyway...
God I hope this score will be something new and not a score ala pirates!
Richard
2013-04-28 18:30:50
I don't think Zimmer would copy Pirates a whole lot for this. He's smart and knows how special the POTC music is. I would hope he wouldn't re-use it on another score. I'm afraid it might sound like a copy of Rango though, but then again this movie should be more serious than that, which was more of a joke-like movie ( Not trying to bash Rango, I loved it ).
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