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I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...
Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!Oh, yes.<br><br>Maybe this month, right?The album is ready. Just waiting for legal to settle it... It'll happen.
And about The Rhythm Section?, Mazzaro said the score is mastered...If there'd only been the first movie prior, I think I'd get it a bit more. But the 2nd film did have a proper score release, so the only reason at this point is that it just isn't on Nick's mind after all the delays.Whoa, why not? Every obscure random shit gets released these days but a Hans Zimmer score to a fairly big mainstream movie doesn't?I doubt there'll be a score release.The Spongebob movie is being released next Friday here in Canada, could we see a release of the album soon? Assuming of course that there will be an album at all /:
I gotta say that short film was spectacular even with I Phone 11, the score by Lorne Balfe fitted very well with the scenes introduced.I'd say that this anthem was pretty great for Zimmer to score a soccer team that has been alive for 25 years.Cheers guys, much appreciated!<br>In my mind I had some video interview though, as I always like watching those as well. I do wonder if there was an extra section on the home release of the movie where ideally there might be.Hans Zimmer is one of the biggest film composers working in the industry today.  He won an Academy Award for his work on The Lion King, and has been nominated for six other films including Gladiator, The Thin Red Line, and As Good As It Gets. With The Last Samurai he celebrates his 100th film score, and SoundtrackNet had an opportunity to talk with Hans a few weeks ago during a rare break in his busy schedule working on Something's Gotta Give.<br><br>You've scored many projects during your career, and The Last Samurai is being touted as your 100th film score…<br><br>Well, I'm terrible with math, so I'm not doing the counting. It could be more, it could be less – but apparently it's the 100th.<br><br>So how did you get involved with the project?<br><br>If you're lucky enough to get nominated for an Oscar, you get invited to the Oscar nominee's luncheon where they hand out these little nomination certificates. There are usually 150 people standing there, and people are invited up in alphabetical order, starting with the As. By the time they get to the Cs, everybody's already back at their table chatting and eating, and while the first people called get thunderous applause, you can imagine what it's like when your name starts with Z!<br><br>So Ed Zwick and I were standing there, waiting at one of these luncheons about four years ago, and we started talking to each other. I asked him what he was working on and he told me about this movie called The Last Samurai, which I thought sounded interesting and I asked him to send me a script. After the script arrived, I didn't hear from him for a long time and I thought he'd forgotten about me, not thinking about how difficult it is to set up a samurai movie these days. The other thing I liked about the project was that Tom Cruise was involved, so it was like returning home, since I've scored a bunch of his movies – I knew we were going to have a good time.<br><br>Did it end up that way?<br><br>Ed and his editor Steve Rosenblum are such gentlemen, so together and professional, and they basically did one cut of the film, screened it, and everyone loved their work. So after this, they had plenty of time to come and hang with me, and while I usually love the re-cutting process because it's a diversionary tactic to keep the director and editor out of my life, these guys were great to have around. <br><br>Of course, my sense of paranoia made me think that something was going wrong all the time, waiting for the other shoe to drop, as it were, but it never happened. Ed phoned this morning and I thought, "Oh my god – rewrite!" It's just how my brain works. But I think he and I feel a bit odd now: we've been seeing each other every day for months, and suddenly we're done. I completely understand why people have a problem finishing a movie, because there's something really nice about the process – completion is far more boring.<br><br>For Samurai, you used Japanese percussions and ethnic woodwinds, without getting too 'Japanese'.<br><br>My problem is that I feel Japanese music is really inaccessible to Western ears, and I was really struggling with this film initially, trying to figure out what I was doing. This idea popped into my head for using Western-style themes, but applying a Japanese aesthetic to them, which sounds great of course, until I had to ask myself what I meant! Actually, I think it's just my way of not overloading certain things with too many colors, or being geometrically precise about my cues and not making them too flowery.<br><br>The Tom Cruise character is one of those nasty drunks at the beginning, who obviously has some serious problems he's trying to deal with, or not deal with. He's obnoxious and restless, suffering sleepless nights and is very un-Tom. For me, this character's journey was about his need to earn tranquility and peace, so within the score there's this very romantic, overblown and passionate theme. It's like a juvenile way of dealing with life and death – the pain and liebestod.<br><br>However, to contrast with these very relentless themes, there are a number of stark, formal and sober pieces, because I wanted to take Tom's character on a journey. He comes from America and ends up in this foreign place where he doesn't speak the language or understand the culture. But at the end of the movie, I want the audience to think that there isn't a more beautiful place for him to be, that he is at home in Japan and finally at peace.<br><br>There are many useless acts of bravery we do out of misguided romanticism, and this movie is full of courageous and dignified acts of bravery. So I wanted to play off these acts, since both the American and Japanese cultures have a concept of heroism, and I just wanted to see if I could play with the nature of the two different concepts.<br><br>So you didn't want to do the stereotypical Japanese thing...<br><br>Absolutely not! Take Akira Kurosawa's Ran, for example, which has this brilliant score where Takemitsu writes Western music, but with an Eastern accent. Somebody asked me a few days ago why As Good As It Gets was European – why did I write a European score for a quintessentially American story? For me, it's because Jack Nicholson was crazy in the movie, and I felt one of the great things about America is how they always think we Europeans are crazy. So by writing a European-styled score, it's my way of saying that Jack is crazy, but it's alright!<br><br>How do you feel about people who criticize your work for not fitting into the time period, like Gladiator?<br><br>The reason I take these jobs is because I'm interested in foreign cultures, and every time I get to work on a movie I'm thrown into the adventure of whatever that culture is, the time, and wherever the story's taking place. So one of the things I'm very careful about is not to be historically correct to the culture, but, on the other hand, not to insult the underlying aesthetics of that culture either. I remember watching Chariots of Fire and thinking how brilliantly the music worked, never missing that it wasn't period instruments! I grew up listening to Bach played by a symphony orchestra – it's the wrong sized orchestra with the wrong instruments, but I don't think that's the point.<br><br>With Gladiator, Pietro Scalia brought in a CD saying "this is Ancient Roman music," and I said, "Says who? You went to the Ancient Roman music store and bought an Ancient Roman music CD? Bullshit!" We're not anthropologists. Look at he costumes Ridley Scott had: they were more Napoleonic than Roman, which was perhaps fitting since Napoleon had stolen all of his good ideas from the Romans regarding how to make his generals look cool – and so did Hitler! So I got criticized for making the "Entry into Rome" cue too Leni Riefenstahl – but that was the joke! I am allowed to have a sense of humor in my music!<br><br>Earlier this summer your credit on Pirates of the Caribbean was "Score Overproduced by". What was the deal with that?<br><br>Well, I thought honesty was a virtue! But seriously, Jerry Bruckheimer quite rightly asked me not to give him "that old-fashioned Pirate music," and Gore Verbinski, who I adore and did The Ring with, said, "Well, it is a pirate movie, so we have to disguise it." In the end, I spent a day and a half writing tunes, Klaus Badelt wrote a lot of stuff, and we rolled up our sleeves, got drunk, behaved in a debauched way, and produced a score!<br><br>There was a lot of criticism regarding that score, but in the end it had to serve the film - which it did. You seem to get a lot of criticism on any project you do.<br><br>I had the misfortune of going onto the Film Score Monthly web site recently to look something up and vanity made me type in my own name. I suddenly realized that you can't ever get it right. Who do people want me to be? The guy that writes Matchstick Men? Or the guy that writes The Rock? Or the guy that writes Driving Miss Daisy? My need is ultimately to write for myself. I mock myself and I'm ironic about the way I speak about it because if I take it too seriously, it would be a pompous and boring thing to do. But at the same time I take each note I write very seriously – none of them are random.<br><br>The Internet Movie Database always lists you as being attached to multiple projects, so I was curious, what's Sharktail?<br><br>I complained to Jeffrey Katzenberg that I couldn't cross any more Red Seas, or deal with any more horses that can't speak – I wanted to do one of the fun animated movies instead. There's also a hip-hop element in Sharktail, and I haven't been there yet, so it's new territory! King Arthur is still in production, and I literally just got the first bits of footage just before you came here.<br><br>Are you working on all of these projects simultaneously?<br><br>I'm thinking about them! I'm also working with Jim Brooks on his new comedy, Spanglish.<br><br>And speaking of comedies, you recently did Matchstick Men for Ridley, which had a very Nino Rota vibe to it....<br><br>And I gave him credit! I thought, what if Nino had written the theme and I was just doing the variations? But I bet I'm going to get criticized for that because it's not like Gladiator.<br><br>So when did you last have a vacation?<br><br>Well, I went to Japan for a couple of days at the end of November for the Japanese premiere of Samurai, but look, I love what I do! In January I'll travel to Morocco because Ridley will be shooting his next movie, Kingdom of Heaven, so that's like a holiday!<br><br>My family and I are going away at Christmas, and what we used to do would be to rent a house in the mountains and go on these skiing holidays. It would be a crappy house, not as nice as the one we live in, my wife was still going to the market, and we're still washing our plates – so it wasn't a vacation, it was a lot of work! It's taken us a long time, but we just figured it out: we're not practical with vacations – we're staying at hotels! But while the Zimmer family isn't talented when it comes to vacations, we're talented when it comes to work!<br><br>I sat through Samurai the other day, and for the first time watched the whole movie from top to tail with everything finished and completed. It felt really good, better than a vacation. But luckily there were enough things wrong for me to think that I learned something from the experience, and now I can't wait for the next project to try these new ideas out.<br><br>The soundtrack to The Last Samurai is available from Elektra Records, and the film is currently in theaters. Matchstick Men is available on Varese Sarabande Records.<br><br>With thanks to Chet Mehta at Chasen & Co, Jason Cienkus at Warner Brothers, and Nina Lynch and Mark Wherry at Media Ventures for helping with this interview. And, of course, special thanks to Hans.Mulan get his release... through Disney+, 4th September.
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The Lone Ranger
Label: Walt Disney Records / Intrada
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  1. Never Take Off The Mask (1:08)
  2. Absurdity (4:58)
  3. Silver (4:00)
  4. Ride (4:17)
  5. You've Looked Better (3:09)
  6. Red's Theater Of The Absurd - Pokey LaFarge & The South City Three (3:02)
  7. The Railroad Waits For No One (3:09)
  8. You're Just A Man In A Mask (4:14)
  9. For God And For Country (4:53)
  10. Finale (9:51)
  11. Home (6:55)
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GermanRCPFan reply Replies: 2 || 2019-08-19 11:54:28
What we know about Lorne's work on it? He do "Ranaway Train" aka "The Railroad Waits For No One" or "Finale"? And Zanelli did only "Finale"?


Knight2019-08-19 12:09:48
The Railroad Waits for No One is Mazzaro


GermanRCPFan2019-08-19 14:13:21
Mazzaro and Lorne would work together

Hannah Johnson reply Replies: 0 || 2019-04-18 03:01:26
Hello all. My mother is a French horn player, and we are totally in love with Hans' score for Disney's "The Lone Ranger" (the best part of that film, if you ask me). I have searched for the horn sheet music for this, but can't seem to find anything...does anyone know where I might get it? Thanks much!!

Mike reply Replies: 3 || 2019-02-02 20:48:16
There's a Lone Ranger discussion happening on the Dunkirk page, which reminds me... Do we have any more credits for this score nowadays, compared to a few years ago?


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-02 23:20:44
Short answer => no


lol


Knight2019-02-05 04:35:28
Nothing that isn't AK or SM, and even those might not be entirely correct. I have nothing on Lorne (Hybrid said he did all the Sherlock temps), Rupert or Jasha.
Kawczynski has 4 cues on his soundcloud 3 of which I know for sure are on the album, (The Rangers at the beginning of Ride, Dead Rangers in You've Looked Better, Finish Him in You're Just a Man in a Mask) while Mazzaro has The Railroad Waits for No Man on his website (listed as Lonesome Whistle.


Mike2019-02-07 23:57:43
Interesting. Thanks. I haven't been on this website much over the last year or two while Hans was busy touring, so I haven't been keeping up with stuff. Once some of Zimmer's big projects are in gear this year, I'm sure I'll be coming back here more. ;)

nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2018-04-20 23:00:41
home is very very soothing. (i sound like i have said it before lol)

it’s the one cue i can listen to a zillion times and never get tired of. i hope upcoming movies will give Hans or whoever in remote control an opportunity to do similar cues. elisabeth in inferno is the closest but is so short.

i have mellowed. i love these mellow cues.

nvictor reply Replies: 3 || 2018-03-22 20:52:07
came back to this one for a while. always found "silver" and "home" very soothing.


Max Potcats2018-03-22 22:25:32
Sure, Home sounds like a country version of Time, but is so underrated.. the whole score is very nice but nothing compared to Pirate, except Finale maybe.


FareTdkr2018-03-23 09:08:53
Well my friend if didn't listened to the complete score you can't judge from the OST LR is really great score totally underestimated.there is even a cue that Hans used from interstellar there not the same but slow variation from no time for caution. Maybe cuz Hans started composing interstellar before LR.


nvictor2018-03-23 11:37:02
you guys are right : )

Max, the Finale is a personal fave. i grew up with William Tell original in cartoons. Hans and co. did a great job by incorporating the indian companion theme in that classic. it is delightful.

you guys know, good accidents happen too when you go back to older scores. like this one: the famous rhythm for BvS (brummm brum-brum-brum-brum brummm...) is (or sounds similar) to the indian drum rhythm used in this score. i didn't catch it before.

Hartnell reply Replies: 9 || 2017-07-27 10:02:47
h t t p s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAleXrIgBr8&feature=youtu.be hello I found this a while ago it is a rejected theme from the film lone ranger, score compos by hans zimmer. Probably hans didnt like this theme and decided not to use it, or maybe it was directors decision not to use. Anyway, enjoy it! I like very much the score how it is now but this ideas is interesting!


Mandarin2017-07-27 11:21:32
First 2 minutes look like to be demo of "Home"


...2017-07-27 13:47:10
Is this legit?


Mike (OTM)2017-07-27 14:47:59
Well. It certainly sounds like HZ. Hybrid?


Anonymous2017-07-27 19:22:25
hmm... the part of the theme near the end reminds me of a few notes from pirates, different enough yet very familiar... where did you find this??


Joe2017-07-28 19:07:42
I wonder if there are any other rejected themes floating around...


Tyler2017-08-02 09:45:50
Haha this movie sucked lol


meta2017-08-02 14:06:55
@Tyler

Thank God this wasn't a MIchael Bay production otherwise you'd have Bayhem attacking you like a rabid chimpanzee...

I enjoyed the movie....Although to be fair, I'm from the West...


Edmund Meinerts2017-08-02 14:51:53
Give me Verbinski mayhem over Bay mayhem any day of the week. This movie certainly had problems but the final action setpiece with the trains was worth the ticket price alone.


Catastrophic Jones2017-08-03 00:47:18
What the heck!? It's by sheer chance I stumble upon this post but the track posted by Hartnell isn't zimmer at all! It's one of mine! I composed it a few months back for some competition on a forum, with a download link and everything. I never publicly released it though, always felt I could rework it a bit. Not sure why someone decided to make it a fake 'rejected zimmer theme'... I don't have it on my channel at the moment but if you want proof, compare it with the theme from my track 'Through the Telescope' here: soundcloud.com/chris-j-estabrook/through-the-telescope you'll find it is the exact same! Maybe I'll post this track later, the real title btw is: 'This Town Is My Home Now'

Joshua reply Replies: 3 || 2016-06-28 22:51:32
I heard from somewhere awhile back that Zanelli did the music in this trailer (starting from 1:28)
h t t p s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TXDpGb7Yug
Anyone know if that's true?


Hybrid Soldier2016-06-28 23:13:45
It is true !


Joshua2016-06-29 07:02:09
Very cool, wish he'd put it on his website or something, its a great track. Anyway, hearing this just makes me extra excited to hear a Zanelli Pirates score where he's in the driver seat.


Edmund Meinerts2016-06-29 12:29:30
Is that track on one of the Director's Cuts albums by any chance? At any rate, it's a laughably bald-faced Pirates rip, but kind of fun despite (or because of) that.

kentobe reply Replies: 10 || 2016-06-21 22:57:56
I didn't know where to ask this so I guess the most recent Verbinski movie is appropriate enough:

Why did Hans drop out of A CURE FOR WELLNESS? I assume it's because of the tour?


Mike2016-06-23 00:13:45
Sounds that way, yes. Shame their collaboration had to be broken up, though. That, and I was looking forward to another horror score from Zimmer.


Mephariel2016-06-23 23:40:14
Could be that he just didn't want to do it because they move the release date to early 2017 and Zimmer still dropped out.


Hybrid Soldier2016-06-23 23:41:39
He didn't have time with other projects & the Tour. And Wallfisch spent 8 months on it, the score & the film are done, release date pushed back or not.


Mike2016-06-23 23:51:11
When / how did Wallfisch become an associate of Zimmer's? His former projects seem very non-RCP, yet now he's worked on 12 Years a Slave, The Little Prince, and Batman v Superman, and has even replaced Zimmer on a project.

Also, Hybrid... who do you see as Zimmer's next "Lorne Balfe" (someone who works on almost every project and does a lot)? I wanna say Andrew Kawcynski and Steve Mazzaro as a duo, but they don't seem to leave quite as much of an imprint as Balfe did during his years working on Hans' scores.


Hybrid Soldier2016-06-23 23:54:28
Wallfisch joined RCP in 2013.

Steve & Andrew, yes, definitely. Well as for imprint, you can only realize "after". Took me many years to realize Lorne's... ;)


Edmund Meinerts2016-06-24 12:43:47
That's true with Lorne. It wasn't until I heard The Sweeney (among other things) that I realized just how much he brought to Inception. Ditto with those Skylander scores and Megamind. We haven't heard enough solo work from Maz and Kaw to be able to tell (I don't think Kaw has a solo score yet, and Maz' Bullet to the Head was too stylistically disparate to be able to draw any conclusions from it).

I also wonder what will happen with Jasha Klebe. That Ukraine documentary score he did last year was pretty nice.


NM2016-06-25 02:49:11
I don't hear any Lorne in this score.


Mike2016-06-25 17:08:09
Me neither, NM. But then, 2013 was when Lorne started to have less and less involvement in Zimmer's scores, ultimately firing up his own scoring career in earnest.


Hybrid Soldier2016-06-25 17:45:44
In The Lone Ranger ?

Just all the Sherlock-like cues... lol


markus2016-06-27 05:20:42
Who did Home? it's beautiful.

Jo reply Replies: 1 || 2016-02-21 13:57:25
This is one of my favourite soundtracks! I don't understand why there aren't more fans of it. And I don't care how much is HZ and how much others, I'm sure Geoff mixed Hans' themes quite often.
As a matter of fact, I think Geoff is great at mixing Hans' themes, I'd buy a full album with Geoff mixes of HZ themes lol

I watched the film for the first time recently, and yes, it's not that good, but the music is amazing. I'd watch the film again just to have the images with the music again.

And yes, I can also hear Sherlock in some parts, POTC in others... maybe that's what's so great. It's just Hans coming out of Sherlock 2, and working with Geoff.... on a film that was meant as a POTC rip-off and failed at that.

But hey, the music is great.


Mike2016-03-11 17:38:58
I think in a lot of ways the "hype" for an HZ score will have to be aided by HZ himself... POTC, Batman, Sherlock Holmes, Man of Steel....he did interviews left and right for those, and bam, people talk about them. With the Lone Ranger we know he didn't have the greatest experience, and the one interview he made was a pointless minute long that went nowhere about the score or his writing process on it. :P

I agree, this is a great score, but if Hans wanted it to "die a quiet death," he succeeded.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-10 00:44:47
The following list is a 100% legit complete film score...


1m1 Logos / Exhibit
1m4 Meet Old Tonto
1m5-7 This Is A Robbery
1m8 Building Railroad
1m9 The Rangers
1m12 Cavendish
1m14-15 Cavendish Gang / Gun
2m16-22 Gang Boards / C Escapes
2m23 Runaway Train
2m25 Arrest Trio
2m26 John And Becca
2m27 Tonto Chant (No Vox)
2m28b-29 Ride Out / Spirit Horse
2m30 Tracking
2m31 No Cover
3m32 Ambush
3m33 Cannibal
3m34 Dead Rangers
3m35 Old Tonto Pre-Burial
3m35b Burial
3m36 Spirit Horse / John
3m36b Poop
3m36b Alt. Poop
3m37 John's Vision
3m38 Precarious Perch
4m39 Sneaking
4m40 Silver Bullet
4m41 Justice
4m47 Windingo Getting Away
4m48 Silver Vision
4m49 Leaving Reds
4m49 Ins. Leaving Reds
4m50 Comanche On Ridge
4m51 Ranch Attack
4m52 Embers

5m53-54 Barn Burn / Stand Off
5m55a Limp Crow
5m55b Wrong Brother
5m55b Alt. Wrong Brother
5m55c Valley Of Tears
5m56 Collins And Dead Horse
5m57 Because I Am Savage
5m57a Comanche Border Train
5m60 Old Tonto Pauses
5m61c Young Tonto / Silver Discovers
5m62 Aftermath Village Slaughter
6m65a Scorpions
6m65b Where The River Begins
6m66 Alt. Frank In Tunnel
6m66 Frank In Tunnel
6m68a Alt. Cave Walkout
6m68b Finish Him
6m68c John Captures Cavendish
6m70 Alexander The Great
6m71 Prayer
6m71a Ins. Stupid White Man
6m71a Supply Car
7m72-73 Daddy Dead
7m76b Build To Execution
7m78 Night Mine
7m79 Aftermath / Wear The Mask
8m82 Ignition
8m84 Bank Robbery
8m88a Train Chase Pt. 1
9m88b Train Chase Pt. 2
9m90 World Evolving
9m90 Ins. World Evolving
9m91 Crow
9m91 Alt. Crow
9m92 End Credits
Home Suite


Hybrid Soldier2015-03-10 00:46:47
You just couldn't, couldn't you ? lol


Sam2015-05-12 21:56:56
Is there a way to listen to these?

Cade reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-06 04:23:45
Someone please tell me that Sherlock Holmes was used as the temp for this score....


NM2015-03-06 08:59:49
All I hear when I listen to Absurdity is the "Barbossa" tune.


Mike2015-03-17 14:48:42
Barbossa had a theme? Or are you referring to his "theme" from POTC4, which is technically Beckett's from POTC2 and 3? :P I'm actually genuinely asking, because if Barbossa did have a theme, I never noticed it.

Daniel reply Replies: 0 || 2015-03-15 14:03:43
End of the HOME is a similar to 0:50 of MAN OF THE PEOPLE from HENRI 4

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 2 || 2015-01-08 00:01:45
I wonder what the theme in the last minute of "Ride" is meant to represent. It plays alongside Silver through the movie but also doubles as Latham Coles' motif.


RealFfingMusic2015-01-08 09:41:42
To quote Optimus Prime, "There's more to them, than meets the eye."


mpolonest1232015-01-08 15:03:19
:D Very true!

Mike reply Replies: 6 || 2013-10-03 16:26:06
Am I the only one who finds 7:32-8:00 in Finale amazing? The way it plays the Silver theme with the strings and rhythm of the William Tell Overture is genius.


Macejko2013-10-03 16:42:56
Since "Finale" is practically the only thing that is being discussed here... No, you are probably not ;)


MacArthur2013-10-03 17:24:47
Yes, That part is cool.


Silver22013-10-09 02:03:02
I like the part in Finale the film version that missing from the Album v. in 4:15, yea it's an extended cue abou 2 min, but i think this the director or the mixer job.


Daniel2015-01-02 15:27:01
I love 7:00 to 8:00 :)


Russel2015-01-03 03:55:56
Pretty sure this part is 'The Storm' from the recently released The Little Mermaid: The Legacy Collection Soundtrack. That 'theme' sounds the exact same to a piece in 'The Storm' cue.


Zimson2015-01-03 16:07:00
You're right. Different conclusion, though, but the similarity is there.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-11-24 23:56:51
Interesting that there's no booklet note about "Silver" being based on "After the Battle of Aughrim"...usually those include stuff like that (like "Non, je ne regrette rien" appearing throughout Inception).

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2013-12-06 02:41:11
Home reminds me of the first part of the Patriot theme by John Williams for some reason


aleks2013-12-16 16:50:33
Please listen to "Slight Night Shiver" by the French Band M83. It is very similar to "Home".


JMuz2013-12-17 11:40:41
to me, the theme for "Home" was probably inspired and potentially temp-tracked to a loop of the finale piece for Field of Dreams by James Horner.

another clear temp-tracking source example in the lone ranger would be the music heard when we see the train for the first time at the beginning of the film: this clearly "inspired" by a track in Henry Jackman's score for Kick-Ass.


Mike2014-08-30 03:38:27
A shame no one talks about "Home" over here....beautiful theme, whoever worked on it. Noble, heartwarming, and very different from a lot of Zimmer's music of recent years.


Bioscope2014-08-30 06:50:52
I think of Dvorack's Largo from The New World Symphony when I hear it. A masterpiece indeed.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-08-30 03:52:34
i know we don't have them but i'd love to see more credits here, like what RGW did, how much GZ did, and what cues Lorne worked on (since I don't guess he did much)

badbu reply Replies: 1 || 2014-06-07 22:57:17
i want the complete score :(


MaxDillon2014-06-07 23:25:10
yeah, and i want Man of Steel complete score, and The Amazing Spider-Man 2.. omg! Amazing!

dark prince reply Replies: 0 || 2014-02-01 05:13:05
Excelent score by Hans Zimmer, here mix correctly his style, with the morriconian style, the result is amazing, themes like "Absurdity", "Ride", "For God and For Country". And that way finish with that homenaje in "Finale", just spectacular

Mike reply Replies: 2 || 2014-01-09 22:52:03
Anybody else notice The Peacemaker in part of Absurdity?

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Bondo2014-01-10 01:34:08
There's a bit of "Air" from ANGELS & DEMONS in there at 2:47 as well ;)


badbu2014-01-10 10:21:57
honestly, almost every track sounds similar...it's the hans sound!:P and we like it :D

Brent reply Replies: 7 || 2014-01-01 04:32:48
Hmm, here's an interesting "interview". He actually has nice things to say about this one. ;)

youtube.com/watch?v=eqzFh0VFdHs


Mike2014-01-01 23:25:37
Five words, friend: his praise of Rob Marshall. ;)


Russel2014-01-01 23:41:04
Who is conducting the orchestra?


Brent2014-01-02 00:24:34
True Mike, true. :)

Russel, that is Nick Glennie-Smith.


...2014-01-02 21:21:19
Ron?

you do know that Gore directed this movie?


Mike2014-01-02 21:53:24
Yes, I know that. What I meant by my comment was this: Hans Zimmer might very well make it look like he had a pleasant time working on The Lone Ranger (even though we know he didn't), just like Hans praised Rob Marshall to no end in a POTC4 interview (even though Rob Marshall gave him a lot of trouble and made him dislike the experience). Moral of the story: never trust official interviews. ;)


NM2014-01-04 03:19:10
To be fair it sounds like it was less Rob Marshall causing trouble and possibly more from the producer side of things. Why would R.M., a talented, musically astute guy insist on a score made up of reheated collection of snippets from previous scores.

I don't know how the production went but I'd wager he's prob low down on the list of people responsible for the complete arse that is the POTC4 score.


Mike2014-01-04 03:37:18
Good point. I'm sure Hybrid Soldier can clarify... ;)

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-01-03 21:45:20
I assume "Absurdity", "Silver", and "Home" can be safely credited to Zimmer only? I'm not so sure about suites anymore after learning that the suites from POTC3 were done by multiple people... :P

Anonymous reply Replies: 10 || 2013-11-12 01:08:49
is Home a suite or a cue? i haven't seen the film to know


MacArthur2013-11-12 01:39:30
I'd say kinda both.

For this reason In the film some of the cues in ride. hold Home just faster:)


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-12 12:57:53
Absurdity, Silver & Home are theme suites.


NM2013-11-12 21:36:05
Hybrid, was there a suite for the 'Ride' track? The beginning of it is very Zimmerish so presumably he did that bit himself.


Mike2013-11-12 21:47:53
Home IS the suite for Ride, NM.


NM2013-11-14 14:17:14
Nah, I'm not talking about the bits from 'Home' or 'Silver', I'm talking about the very start of the track with the guitars and stuff.


Mike2013-11-14 14:23:03
Ah, well...You know, NM, lotsa stuff sounds like Zimmer in these scores but isn't him, necessarily. It's supposed to sound like Zimmer, regardless of who wrote it, so that the score is cohesive.


MacArthur2013-11-14 16:45:49
Assume it is until told otherwise. :)


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-14 17:59:47
For once MacArthur speaks sense.


Mike2013-11-14 19:04:58
For me, I often assume the opposite: that it's NOT Zimmer by himself, unless I hear otherwise. :P There are exceptions, like "Flight" from Man of Steel and "Prologue/Gotham's Reckoning" from TDKR, both of which just scream Zimmer to me, however.


Mike2013-11-14 19:10:31
"What Are You Going To Do...etc" is another one that sounds like Zimmer himself did it (not just because it's almost exactly the same in his suite, but also because it seems like he often handles opening/closing scenes in movies).

MacArthur reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-12 16:56:56
One of my Favorites

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-10 19:30:27
Awww, man. Zanelli's website was finally updated, so now you can click on "The Lone Ranger" poster and listen to his music from there, but sadly, the only track he has listed is "Finale". We already knew you did Finale, man!!!! Oh well. Guess some more concrete crediting will have to wait for this one.

Zimson reply Replies: 10 || 2013-10-30 08:24:06
Is the "Finale" track really only by Geoff Zanelli?
On 1:53 a familiar Sherlock Holmes sample is used and Zanelli wasn't involved with in that one. Also, there's an interview where Zimmer talks about the Willhelm Tell ouverture.


Mike2013-10-30 13:30:12
Simple, buddy: Zanelli used Zimmer's music in Finale. ;)


Radik2013-10-30 14:38:40
Or Hans used his music in it.. He is a composer.. obviously ;)


Mike2013-10-30 15:01:16
Pardon my stupidity, Radik, but I don't follow you.


Zimson2013-10-30 15:13:47
No it's not that simple. The part around 1:53 is taken from the Willhelm Tell ouvertue, so it's nothing Zimmer composed for the movie. And right there the Sherlock Holmes sample appears which could mean that Zimmer was at least involved in this part. On the other hand it's clear that Zanelli and Gregson-Wlliams have to have soemthing to do with the score, since they are credited.


Mike2013-10-30 15:25:15
Well of course Zimmer was somehow involved with it. He has to give it a pass before it's used in the score he's been hired to compose. But just because a Sherlock Holmes sample is used doesn't mean Zanelli didn't put it in there. I'm sure he has access to all the samples he needs for a given cue, regardless of whether it was Zimmer's in the first place or not.


Zimson2013-10-30 15:33:24
Sure it can be, but isn't it more likely that Zimmer used this sample here, he probably even created that sound and I believe I heard it in another Zimmer score as well.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-30 16:43:55
The most likely thing is that either Zanelli asked Zimmer if he could use the sample, or else that sample can be found in some giant central Remote Control library that is open to all the composers to use. You hear different samples from different scores by different composers all the time, it doesn't mean Zimmer had a hand in the cue at all.


Mike2013-10-30 16:44:15
You'd have to ask Hybrid. ;)


Mike2013-10-30 16:55:54
"...or else that sample can be found in some giant central Remote Control library that is open to all the composers to use".

That's my thinking, Edmund


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-30 17:12:19
There is a giant central server... And when HZ decides to close THIS sample library and open THAT one, it takes HOURS to load ! lol

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-21 18:09:33
Finally heard the end credits music everyone is raving about....it's essentially just the Finale, but it does have a cool little version of the silver theme for a brief minute

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-21 18:09:33
Finally heard the end credits music everyone is raving about....it's essentially just the Finale, but it does have a cool little version of the silver theme for a brief minute

SamFisher reply Replies: 22 || 2013-10-13 00:25:50
The Lone Ranger Complete Score(Edit) PUBLISHED! :)
Track List
1:Logo
2:Make Trade
3:This is a Damn Bank Robbery!!
4:Colby Texas, 1869
5:The Future is just Around the bend
6:This is My Bible
7:Hanson Place (Shall We Gather At The River)
8:Almost Hanging Time Butch
9:Market Stall (Music Box)
10:Right on Time
11:Butch Escapes
12:Butch's Gang Arrives
13:Nothing Comes Next
14:Time Has Come Wendigo
15:A Lawyer and a Crazy Indian
16:The Railroad Waits For No Man
17:Just Taking This Man Into Custody
18:It's My Home
19:Tonto Scares Danny
20:Silver
21:No Cover
22:The Canyon
23:Ambush
24:You've Looked Better
25:Spirit Horse
26:Manure Hair
27:Visions
28:Don't Look Down
29:Why Are You Talking to That Horse
30:Silver Bullet
31:Kemosabe
32:Red's Theater of the Absurd
33:Wendigo Getting Away
34:Escape From Red's
35:Rebecca Sees Scout
36:'Indians' Attack Reid Home
37:Was not Indian
38:Our Horse Can Fly?
39:Wrong Brother
40:Butch's Camp
41:The Valley of Tears
42:Lost in the Desert
43:I Understand You Have An Indian Problem
44:Death Dance
45:The Tent
46:Never Taste Other Man's Drink
47:Tonto's Tale
49:Nature Is Out Of Balance
50:Where The River Begins
51:Bye Frank
52:You're Just A Man In A Mask
53:It Could Be All Yours
54:Is This The Man You've Been Looking For (Silver)
55:Twitchy Finger
56:The Truth Revealed
57:Nothing Is Accomplished Without Sacrifice
58:It Was A Good Plan
59:Finale
60:Up to you, Kemosabe
61:End Credits Part 1
62:End Credits Part 2


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-13 00:37:27
SamFisher, 2 things :

1st = What have you not understood about the rules ? Too small brain perhaps ?

2nd = What the f... is that thing ?


SamFisher2013-10-13 00:42:47
Hybrid I did not know im'so sorry


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-13 01:35:29
SFX-ridden crap is what it is. Pass.


Meta2013-10-13 02:19:57
Pass?

That's the funniest thing I read all day...

Thanks for that bit of humor.

I'll take an SFX laden score right now over nothing...

Could be a while before the real deal comes down the pike.



MacArthur2013-10-13 02:23:35
What's wrong with the Main score (This one) I didn't necessarily hear anything in the film that wasn't on the soundtrack.


Anonymous2013-10-13 11:29:18
Garage hits the road once more! Yip-Yip-Hooray!


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-13 14:07:13
I absolutely can't stand SFX-ridden boots, so until the real deal does leak, it IS "pass" and the original album for me. Sorry if you find that amusing. I didn't mean to be super dismissive of this or anything, but I do have certain standards. :p


Jerry Bruckheimer2013-10-13 16:42:36
Hybrid Soldier, you are an asshole. If it's against the rules, fucking remove it. You webmasters are always bitching about people posting tracklists and NEVER removing them. So instead of whining, do something about it

And to everyone else: the guy worked hard on it. He posted the list to advertise it and let people know it's out there until the real deal becomes available. Like putting a house on the market. It's available, come and look, see if you like it. The list may be removed from here (if the webmasters will even do something about it - drum roll, let's see if they do!!) but it will certainly remain at it's current location.


Intada Store2013-10-13 19:46:50
Please remove this list from these site immediately.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-13 19:52:57
It's "this site", not "these site", and I doubt if Intrada were to actually want the list down that they would post it in the comments section under a misspelled handle. :p


SamFisher2013-10-13 19:55:31
Fuck Off


Ele2013-10-13 19:58:51
I don't like when Hybrid Soldier is angry.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-13 20:12:22
Yes, but unlike the Hulk, Hybrid is ALWAYS green, even when he isn't angry.


HoLmeS2013-10-13 20:42:38
Everybody just calm down, a list of only.. lol


Wall-E2013-10-13 21:16:28
Are you sure this is new tracklist from Intrada?New special limited edition?


D A R T H2013-10-13 21:30:57
it's a dvd/bluray rip with sfx...

no it's not a limited edition :-|


D A R T H2013-10-13 21:35:43
it's a dvd/bluray rip with sfx...

no it's not a limited edition :-|


Meta2013-10-13 23:43:47
Oh cmon....

Jesus Christ you people act as if this score was THE most anticipated score of the year!

Actually from what I gathered it wasn't....SO I don't see what the fuss is about.


al bundy2013-10-14 00:25:50
@Intada Store: They used to be called Intrada with a "r". So try again.


MacArthur2013-10-14 01:24:08
Actually Man of Steel was probably the most anticipated score This year from what I have read.


Ds2013-10-14 10:57:00
Hybrid, since when is it forbidden to post a tracklist? This is just a list, with no link attached to it.


Antas, Webmaster2013-10-14 11:57:25
I am not against posting a complete listing (without link of course) but a DVD rip...

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