"Red's Theater Of The Absurd" Written & Produced by Jack White Performed by Pokey LaFarge & The South City Three Band Members: Pokey LaFarge, Joey Glynn, Adam Hoskins & Ryan Koening
Score Composed & Produced by Hans Zimmer
Executive Soundtrack Album Producers: Jerry Bruckheimer & Gore Verbinski Executive in Charge of Music & Soundtracks for The Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures Group & The Disney Music Group: Mitchell Leib
Additional Music by Geoff Zanelli, Rupert Gregon-Williams, Steve Mazzaro, Andrew Kawczynski, Jasha Klebe & Lorne Balfe
Music Business/Legal Affairs for The Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures Group: Scott Holtzman, Sylvia Krask & Don Welty Music Production for The Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures Group: Monica Zierhut Supervising Music Editor: Kenneth Karman Music Wrangler: Bob Badami Music Editors: Pete Oso Snell & Katie Greathouse Sample Development: Claudius Bruese, Ben Robinson, Raul Vega & Taurees Habib Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry
Featured Musicians: Nico Abondolo, Jason Bonham, Ann Marie Calhoun, Anthony Clarke, Mike Einzinger, Pedro Eustache, Aleksey Igudesman, Arturo Sandoval & Tristan Schulze
Supervising Orchestrator: Bruce Fowler Orchestrations by Walt Fowler, Kevin Kaska, Suzette Moriarty & Carl Rydlund Music Preparation by Booker White, Walt Disney Music Library Score Recorded by Joel Iwataki Score Mixed by Daniel Kresco & Satoshi Noguchi Album Mixed by Daniel Kresco Digital Workstation Operators: Kevin Globerman & Vincent Cirilli Orchestra Conducted by Nick Glennie-Smith Scored Recorded at Sony Scoring Stage, The Newman Scoring Stage Scored Recorded & Mixed at Remote Control Studios Orchestra Contractor: Peter Rotter Assistant Orchestra Contractors: Megan Wintory & Yvonne Tranne-MacDonald Concert Master: Belinda Broughton Music Production Services: Steve Kofsky Score Coordination for Remote Control Productions: Czarina Russell Technical Assistants: Chuck Choi, Brian Wherry & Phill Boucher Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry Assistant Engineers: Christian Wenger, Tim Lauber & Adam Michalak
Hans Zimmer would like to thank: Gore Verbinski, Jerry Bruckheimer, Morgan Des Griseillers, Mitchell Leib, Monica Zierhut, Amy Robinson, Michael Breidenbrücker, Pat Sandston, Craig Wood, James Haygood, Shari Hanson
Bonnie Abaunza, Jillian Abood, Lorne Balfe, Tiffany Bordenave, Chris Boyes, Candace Carlo, Jordi Vazquez Cecilia, Leland Cox, Nick Douillard, Mike Einziger, Ariel Emanuel, James, Trish & Max Golfar, Peter Gorges, Michael Hein, Axel Henson, Elizabeth & Martin Holdgate, Kai Krause, Chaz Labrecque, Amy Magrish, Christina Mansky, Paul Massey, Amos Newman, Albert Nolasco, Ryan Ouchida, Kathy & Stephen Paine, Bradley Rainey, Catherine Sanderson, Shalini Singh, Chris Strong, Stéphane Vidali, Brigitte Zimmer, Zoë Zimmer, Jake, Annabel, Max & Suzanne Zimmer, and the entire staff at The Walt Disney Studios Music Department and the Disney Music Group
Release date : 07/02/2013
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I didn't know where to ask this so I guess the most recent Verbinski movie is appropriate enough:
Why did Hans drop out of A CURE FOR WELLNESS? I assume it's because of the tour?
Sounds that way, yes. Shame their collaboration had to be broken up, though. That, and I was looking forward to another horror score from Zimmer.
Could be that he just didn't want to do it because they move the release date to early 2017 and Zimmer still dropped out.
He didn't have time with other projects & the Tour. And Wallfisch spent 8 months on it, the score & the film are done, release date pushed back or not.
When / how did Wallfisch become an associate of Zimmer's? His former projects seem very non-RCP, yet now he's worked on 12 Years a Slave, The Little Prince, and Batman v Superman, and has even replaced Zimmer on a project.
Also, Hybrid... who do you see as Zimmer's next "Lorne Balfe" (someone who works on almost every project and does a lot)? I wanna say Andrew Kawcynski and Steve Mazzaro as a duo, but they don't seem to leave quite as much of an imprint as Balfe did during his years working on Hans' scores.
Wallfisch joined RCP in 2013.
Steve & Andrew, yes, definitely. Well as for imprint, you can only realize "after". Took me many years to realize Lorne's... ;)
That's true with Lorne. It wasn't until I heard The Sweeney (among other things) that I realized just how much he brought to Inception. Ditto with those Skylander scores and Megamind. We haven't heard enough solo work from Maz and Kaw to be able to tell (I don't think Kaw has a solo score yet, and Maz' Bullet to the Head was too stylistically disparate to be able to draw any conclusions from it).
I also wonder what will happen with Jasha Klebe. That Ukraine documentary score he did last year was pretty nice.
I don't hear any Lorne in this score.
Me neither, NM. But then, 2013 was when Lorne started to have less and less involvement in Zimmer's scores, ultimately firing up his own scoring career in earnest.
This is one of my favourite soundtracks! I don't understand why there aren't more fans of it. And I don't care how much is HZ and how much others, I'm sure Geoff mixed Hans' themes quite often. As a matter of fact, I think Geoff is great at mixing Hans' themes, I'd buy a full album with Geoff mixes of HZ themes lol
I watched the film for the first time recently, and yes, it's not that good, but the music is amazing. I'd watch the film again just to have the images with the music again.
And yes, I can also hear Sherlock in some parts, POTC in others... maybe that's what's so great. It's just Hans coming out of Sherlock 2, and working with Geoff.... on a film that was meant as a POTC rip-off and failed at that.
But hey, the music is great.
I think in a lot of ways the "hype" for an HZ score will have to be aided by HZ himself... POTC, Batman, Sherlock Holmes, Man of Steel....he did interviews left and right for those, and bam, people talk about them. With the Lone Ranger we know he didn't have the greatest experience, and the one interview he made was a pointless minute long that went nowhere about the score or his writing process on it. :P
I agree, this is a great score, but if Hans wanted it to "die a quiet death," he succeeded.
The following list is a 100% legit complete film score...
1m1 Logos / Exhibit 1m4 Meet Old Tonto 1m5-7 This Is A Robbery 1m8 Building Railroad 1m9 The Rangers 1m12 Cavendish 1m14-15 Cavendish Gang / Gun 2m16-22 Gang Boards / C Escapes 2m23 Runaway Train 2m25 Arrest Trio 2m26 John And Becca 2m27 Tonto Chant (No Vox) 2m28b-29 Ride Out / Spirit Horse 2m30 Tracking 2m31 No Cover 3m32 Ambush 3m33 Cannibal 3m34 Dead Rangers 3m35 Old Tonto Pre-Burial 3m35b Burial 3m36 Spirit Horse / John 3m36b Poop 3m36b Alt. Poop 3m37 John's Vision 3m38 Precarious Perch 4m39 Sneaking 4m40 Silver Bullet 4m41 Justice 4m47 Windingo Getting Away 4m48 Silver Vision 4m49 Leaving Reds 4m49 Ins. Leaving Reds 4m50 Comanche On Ridge 4m51 Ranch Attack 4m52 Embers
5m53-54 Barn Burn / Stand Off 5m55a Limp Crow 5m55b Wrong Brother 5m55b Alt. Wrong Brother 5m55c Valley Of Tears 5m56 Collins And Dead Horse 5m57 Because I Am Savage 5m57a Comanche Border Train 5m60 Old Tonto Pauses 5m61c Young Tonto / Silver Discovers 5m62 Aftermath Village Slaughter 6m65a Scorpions 6m65b Where The River Begins 6m66 Alt. Frank In Tunnel 6m66 Frank In Tunnel 6m68a Alt. Cave Walkout 6m68b Finish Him 6m68c John Captures Cavendish 6m70 Alexander The Great 6m71 Prayer 6m71a Ins. Stupid White Man 6m71a Supply Car 7m72-73 Daddy Dead 7m76b Build To Execution 7m78 Night Mine 7m79 Aftermath / Wear The Mask 8m82 Ignition 8m84 Bank Robbery 8m88a Train Chase Pt. 1 9m88b Train Chase Pt. 2 9m90 World Evolving 9m90 Ins. World Evolving 9m91 Crow 9m91 Alt. Crow 9m92 End Credits Home Suite
Someone please tell me that Sherlock Holmes was used as the temp for this score....
All I hear when I listen to Absurdity is the "Barbossa" tune.
Barbossa had a theme? Or are you referring to his "theme" from POTC4, which is technically Beckett's from POTC2 and 3? :P I'm actually genuinely asking, because if Barbossa did have a theme, I never noticed it.
Interesting that there's no booklet note about "Silver" being based on "After the Battle of Aughrim"...usually those include stuff like that (like "Non, je ne regrette rien" appearing throughout Inception).
Home reminds me of the first part of the Patriot theme by John Williams for some reason
Please listen to "Slight Night Shiver" by the French Band M83. It is very similar to "Home".
to me, the theme for "Home" was probably inspired and potentially temp-tracked to a loop of the finale piece for Field of Dreams by James Horner.
another clear temp-tracking source example in the lone ranger would be the music heard when we see the train for the first time at the beginning of the film: this clearly "inspired" by a track in Henry Jackman's score for Kick-Ass.
A shame no one talks about "Home" over here....beautiful theme, whoever worked on it. Noble, heartwarming, and very different from a lot of Zimmer's music of recent years.
I think of Dvorack's Largo from The New World Symphony when I hear it. A masterpiece indeed.
Excelent score by Hans Zimmer, here mix correctly his style, with the morriconian style, the result is amazing, themes like "Absurdity", "Ride", "For God and For Country". And that way finish with that homenaje in "Finale", just spectacular
Hmm, here's an interesting "interview". He actually has nice things to say about this one. ;)
Five words, friend: his praise of Rob Marshall. ;)
Who is conducting the orchestra?
True Mike, true. :)
Russel, that is Nick Glennie-Smith.
you do know that Gore directed this movie?
Yes, I know that. What I meant by my comment was this: Hans Zimmer might very well make it look like he had a pleasant time working on The Lone Ranger (even though we know he didn't), just like Hans praised Rob Marshall to no end in a POTC4 interview (even though Rob Marshall gave him a lot of trouble and made him dislike the experience). Moral of the story: never trust official interviews. ;)
To be fair it sounds like it was less Rob Marshall causing trouble and possibly more from the producer side of things. Why would R.M., a talented, musically astute guy insist on a score made up of reheated collection of snippets from previous scores.
I don't know how the production went but I'd wager he's prob low down on the list of people responsible for the complete arse that is the POTC4 score.
Good point. I'm sure Hybrid Soldier can clarify... ;)
is Home a suite or a cue? i haven't seen the film to know
I'd say kinda both.
For this reason In the film some of the cues in ride. hold Home just faster:)
Absurdity, Silver & Home are theme suites.
Hybrid, was there a suite for the 'Ride' track? The beginning of it is very Zimmerish so presumably he did that bit himself.
Home IS the suite for Ride, NM.
Nah, I'm not talking about the bits from 'Home' or 'Silver', I'm talking about the very start of the track with the guitars and stuff.
Ah, well...You know, NM, lotsa stuff sounds like Zimmer in these scores but isn't him, necessarily. It's supposed to sound like Zimmer, regardless of who wrote it, so that the score is cohesive.
Assume it is until told otherwise. :)
For once MacArthur speaks sense.
For me, I often assume the opposite: that it's NOT Zimmer by himself, unless I hear otherwise. :P There are exceptions, like "Flight" from Man of Steel and "Prologue/Gotham's Reckoning" from TDKR, both of which just scream Zimmer to me, however.
"What Are You Going To Do...etc" is another one that sounds like Zimmer himself did it (not just because it's almost exactly the same in his suite, but also because it seems like he often handles opening/closing scenes in movies).
Awww, man. Zanelli's website was finally updated, so now you can click on "The Lone Ranger" poster and listen to his music from there, but sadly, the only track he has listed is "Finale". We already knew you did Finale, man!!!! Oh well. Guess some more concrete crediting will have to wait for this one.
Is the "Finale" track really only by Geoff Zanelli? On 1:53 a familiar Sherlock Holmes sample is used and Zanelli wasn't involved with in that one. Also, there's an interview where Zimmer talks about the Willhelm Tell ouverture.
Simple, buddy: Zanelli used Zimmer's music in Finale. ;)
Or Hans used his music in it.. He is a composer.. obviously ;)
Pardon my stupidity, Radik, but I don't follow you.
No it's not that simple. The part around 1:53 is taken from the Willhelm Tell ouvertue, so it's nothing Zimmer composed for the movie. And right there the Sherlock Holmes sample appears which could mean that Zimmer was at least involved in this part. On the other hand it's clear that Zanelli and Gregson-Wlliams have to have soemthing to do with the score, since they are credited.
Well of course Zimmer was somehow involved with it. He has to give it a pass before it's used in the score he's been hired to compose. But just because a Sherlock Holmes sample is used doesn't mean Zanelli didn't put it in there. I'm sure he has access to all the samples he needs for a given cue, regardless of whether it was Zimmer's in the first place or not.
Sure it can be, but isn't it more likely that Zimmer used this sample here, he probably even created that sound and I believe I heard it in another Zimmer score as well.
The most likely thing is that either Zanelli asked Zimmer if he could use the sample, or else that sample can be found in some giant central Remote Control library that is open to all the composers to use. You hear different samples from different scores by different composers all the time, it doesn't mean Zimmer had a hand in the cue at all.
You'd have to ask Hybrid. ;)
"...or else that sample can be found in some giant central Remote Control library that is open to all the composers to use".
That's my thinking, Edmund
There is a giant central server... And when HZ decides to close THIS sample library and open THAT one, it takes HOURS to load ! lol
The Lone Ranger Complete Score(Edit) PUBLISHED! :) Track List 1:Logo 2:Make Trade 3:This is a Damn Bank Robbery!! 4:Colby Texas, 1869 5:The Future is just Around the bend 6:This is My Bible 7:Hanson Place (Shall We Gather At The River) 8:Almost Hanging Time Butch 9:Market Stall (Music Box) 10:Right on Time 11:Butch Escapes 12:Butch's Gang Arrives 13:Nothing Comes Next 14:Time Has Come Wendigo 15:A Lawyer and a Crazy Indian 16:The Railroad Waits For No Man 17:Just Taking This Man Into Custody 18:It's My Home 19:Tonto Scares Danny 20:Silver 21:No Cover 22:The Canyon 23:Ambush 24:You've Looked Better 25:Spirit Horse 26:Manure Hair 27:Visions 28:Don't Look Down 29:Why Are You Talking to That Horse 30:Silver Bullet 31:Kemosabe 32:Red's Theater of the Absurd 33:Wendigo Getting Away 34:Escape From Red's 35:Rebecca Sees Scout 36:'Indians' Attack Reid Home 37:Was not Indian 38:Our Horse Can Fly? 39:Wrong Brother 40:Butch's Camp 41:The Valley of Tears 42:Lost in the Desert 43:I Understand You Have An Indian Problem 44:Death Dance 45:The Tent 46:Never Taste Other Man's Drink 47:Tonto's Tale 49:Nature Is Out Of Balance 50:Where The River Begins 51:Bye Frank 52:You're Just A Man In A Mask 53:It Could Be All Yours 54:Is This The Man You've Been Looking For (Silver) 55:Twitchy Finger 56:The Truth Revealed 57:Nothing Is Accomplished Without Sacrifice 58:It Was A Good Plan 59:Finale 60:Up to you, Kemosabe 61:End Credits Part 1 62:End Credits Part 2
SamFisher, 2 things :
1st = What have you not understood about the rules ? Too small brain perhaps ?
2nd = What the f... is that thing ?
Hybrid I did not know im'so sorry
SFX-ridden crap is what it is. Pass.
That's the funniest thing I read all day...
Thanks for that bit of humor.
I'll take an SFX laden score right now over nothing...
Could be a while before the real deal comes down the pike.
What's wrong with the Main score (This one) I didn't necessarily hear anything in the film that wasn't on the soundtrack.
Garage hits the road once more! Yip-Yip-Hooray!
I absolutely can't stand SFX-ridden boots, so until the real deal does leak, it IS "pass" and the original album for me. Sorry if you find that amusing. I didn't mean to be super dismissive of this or anything, but I do have certain standards. :p
Hybrid Soldier, you are an asshole. If it's against the rules, fucking remove it. You webmasters are always bitching about people posting tracklists and NEVER removing them. So instead of whining, do something about it
And to everyone else: the guy worked hard on it. He posted the list to advertise it and let people know it's out there until the real deal becomes available. Like putting a house on the market. It's available, come and look, see if you like it. The list may be removed from here (if the webmasters will even do something about it - drum roll, let's see if they do!!) but it will certainly remain at it's current location.
Please remove this list from these site immediately.
It's "this site", not "these site", and I doubt if Intrada were to actually want the list down that they would post it in the comments section under a misspelled handle. :p
I don't like when Hybrid Soldier is angry.
Yes, but unlike the Hulk, Hybrid is ALWAYS green, even when he isn't angry.
Everybody just calm down, a list of only.. lol
Are you sure this is new tracklist from Intrada?New special limited edition?
D A R T H
it's a dvd/bluray rip with sfx...
no it's not a limited edition :-|
D A R T H
it's a dvd/bluray rip with sfx...
no it's not a limited edition :-|
Jesus Christ you people act as if this score was THE most anticipated score of the year!
Actually from what I gathered it wasn't....SO I don't see what the fuss is about.
@Intada Store: They used to be called Intrada with a "r". So try again.
Actually Man of Steel was probably the most anticipated score This year from what I have read.
Hybrid, since when is it forbidden to post a tracklist? This is just a list, with no link attached to it.
I am not against posting a complete listing (without link of course) but a DVD rip...
Please don't use bad language in this site. It will be bad thing if Mr. Zimmer ever see the curses in here. This is his site to share with his fans, his music, and because his is one of the best composers and a great man, I believe we must careful our words in here. Mr. Hybrid sorry for this comment, but I felt bad for the "asshole" word in here.
this is a very easy case I think. Hans was bored sitting next to disney bosses watching Johnny Depp playing the silly / dump pirate. after four pirates suddenly he realized he's watching Johnny Depp playing the silly / dump indian again with disney bosses. and after rango he was not so intrested in western. (also Depp playing the silly / dump chameleon)
about not going to lone ranger event: don't forget that Hans smiled really proudly at the opening of potc 4.
I'm waiting for Hybrid to update the who-did-whats on this score and to see Zanelli's name next to all of the other tracks as well as the "Finale"... ;)
I don't think that will happen cause Zimmer did it.
lol, same, Edmund. I really have no idea who did what here, though, besides Hybrid repeatedly saying Zanelli was the no. 2 composer on it. I suspect Absurdity and Silver will be credited solely to Zimmer, though, because they sound like suites.
And sadly, the Lone Ranger image on Zanelli's website is just that: an image. No link to click on, and thus no music. This is purely conspiracy, but I wonder if maybe it's not clickable because Zanelli doesn't want us to know just how much he did?
And please don't jump on that comment, anyone. I really like this score, whoever wrote it, and that comment has nothing to do with its quality.
It's just Geoff put it long before the release, so he indeed couldn't share music, but no doubt he'll add cues in the future... :)
And no, there's a cuesheet available, which isn't detailed... :)
Why is he even bothered to take these assignments if he doesn't care? If it is a favor for Verbinski then this kind of attitude doesn't quite complement his motives. Unless, of course, Verbibski too didn't enjoy this ride either.
Well the important is the result. Did this score deliver ? Apparently everyone says yes, so what's the problem ?
That's obviously not what "e" here is looking for. I'm guessing it's the first half of the end credits, which is like an extension of the best parts of the Finale with all of the themes presented over the William Tell rhythm. It's an awesome cue and I can't believe they couldn't find room for it on the album! :/
It's understandable HZ dropped it, since the material is basically a mix between William Tell and the Silver suite.
And even if the arrangement is cool, I don't think HZ care...
And if it was him only, he wouldn't have released a soundtrack at all...
Actually he didn't care at all about that score... Give him MOS & Rush ANYTIME !
Hybrid Do you know Hans
You haven't been on that site for a very long time apparently, but already flooding like crazy ! (evil)
To be more serious, I wouldn't consider I "know" him, let's just say I "exchange" with him for 3/4 years now... ;)
Hybrid, what you're saying is pretty harsch. If Hans didn't care, why the hell did he take the full credit? He could have co-credited Geoff Zanelli... or given him the whole thing. Geoff needs visibility and recognition because he's one of the most talented RCP composers these days.
I agree with you but... Doesn't EVERYONE know Geoff did the key cue to that score, the most praised one ? ;)
Wait your saying Zanelli did the score
Certainly not, though he's by far the n°2 guy here... :)
Yeah Hybrid, we all know that. But people with a bit less interest in film music have no idea who Geoff is, but they all know HZ... Seriously, can't Hans tell Versbinski & Bruckheimer "sorry guys, i have no time/no interest in doing this score, but you know Geoff from Rango & Pirates, he's highly competent and will be glad to work on your movie". There would've been NO difference, just maybe a bit less Pirates/Sherlock rip-off :p
I personally thought that this score was very good and in an interview with Zimmer he said he was glad to do this score
I really enjoy this film score, but I can tell Zimmer doesn't really care about it. Almost no interviews on it, and the one interview he did do was awkward and barely dealt with the score.
And MacArthur, my friend, NEVER trust official interviews. Hans also gave high praise to Rob Marshall, POTC4's director, but Hans hated working on that movie.
Yeah I didn't care to much for that score. some of it was ok but overall didn't care for it
I wonder if Zimmer is going to score POTC5
According to our friend Hybrid here, Zimmer doesn't want to. I really feel like Geoff Zanelli, the number 2 guy on all the other Pirates films, will do it.
Funny that a score that Hans apparently considered beneath him and didn't pay much attention to is, IMO, easily the best thing he's done in the last four years. Whereas Man of Steel...yeah.
I quite liked Man of Steel as a whole (even though its use in the movie was disappointing), but I agree with Edmund: TLR is one of Zimmer's best in a while.
Hybrid, could you take a stab at the credits for this one?
Nothing available I'm afraid. For now... If there is you'll be the first ones to know !
and i think that Zimmer would do POTC5 because in the last one, the score was not that great now i think he will do it again just to please audiences and you never know maybe this one will be the best one of all the POTC scores. I guess we won't know till it comes out.
Hans "didn't care at all for the score?" That surely cannot be good publicity, what do you mean exactly? He didn't have a good experience, he wasn't happy with his work?
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typical, Zimmer's best score in ages and he doesn't care for it...
Did you see HZ do PR for Lone Ranger ? No... Barely a couple interviews, no premieres...
While he's travelling the world for Rush & 12 Years A Slave and did so for MOS.
Says it all... :)
"Says it all" indeed. And the one Lone Ranger interview there was, Hans totally fudged his way through it.
Well, based on what Ive heard much of it doesnt really sound like his music anyway, more like Geoff Zanelli's music....
I can only think that the Absurdity track is his...
He probably did the same for this movie that he did for the original Pirates, only he put his name on this release...
I'd be sad if I was a director and Hans didn't care for the score to my film.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see how his relationship with Gore is now. I'm thinking it's more of a Bruckheimer issue than it is an issue with Gore. Hm, we'll see.