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Really liked this score, and the movie wasn't as bad as people claim as well... Benjamin Wallfisch does some very nice stuff, his horror scores are always on point like It 1 & 2, Annabelle: Creation, A Cure for Wellness...<br><br>I know he's gonna deliver it with Mortal Kombat even if the movie isn't that good. But kind of a bummer that his next scheduled project comes out in 2021 LOL'Cause maybe the expected all the cues from the sessionsI like this music!The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!
Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....Some of the action bits, yeah......This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lol
This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me knowThe clips are on his Facebook page.2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me too
Excited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.
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Assassin's Creed III - The Tyranny Of King Washington (VG)
Label: UbiSoft Music (Digital Download Only)
Length: 98'27
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  1. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme (Wall Of Sound Remix) (3:08)
  2. Ratonhnhaké Ton (2:30)
  3. The Tyrant (3:20)
  4. Frozen (2:56)
  5. Solitude (1:38)
  6. Frontier At Arms (3:19)
  7. Winter's Grasp (3:10)
  8. You Must Succeed (2:16)
  9. Seekers (1:29)
  10. Tracking The Prey (2:54)
  11. Against All Odds (2:35)
  12. He Is Our Beacon (2:01)
  13. The Betrayal (3:35)
  14. Swift And Silent (2:31)
  15. Rooftop Chase (2:28)
  16. Dark Alleys (2:07)
  17. The Key (2:15)
  18. Escape Artist (1:50)
  19. Closed City (2:19)
  20. Helpless (2:26)
  21. The Ruse (2:48)
  22. Nightmares (2:21)
  23. The Redemption (2:55)
  24. Fallen Warriors (2:35)
  25. Wolf In Sheep's Clothing (1:11)
  26. Taking Up Arms (1:39)
  27. The True Rulers (1:21)
  28. Risking Everything (2:12)
  29. Alone Against All (2:53)
  30. Unwavering Resolve (1:41)
  31. Laying Up The Trap (1:00)
  32. The Will To Endure (2:19)
  33. King Washington (3:37)
  34. Ghost Trail (2:31)
  35. Duel At Dawn (2:17)
  36. Man With The Wolf Hood (2:23)
  37. The Betrayal (Alternate Version) (3:35)
  38. The Redemption (Alternate Version) (2:54)
  39. King Washington (Alternate Version) (3:37)
  40. King Washington (Revisited Version) (1:49)
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MacArthur reply Replies: 18 || 2013-08-22 22:42:49
Anyone know why the title is against George Washington


MacArthur2013-08-22 22:47:19
Cause for one i know he wasn't a King and 2 he wasn't a tyrant


Macejko2013-08-22 23:31:26
Whereas you are the king of stupid questions.


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-23 02:59:28
I believe a facepalm is in order.


MacArthur2013-08-23 03:28:22
You have a problem with the question


MacArthur2013-08-23 05:18:49
I just sounds like a lot of propaganda


MacArthur2013-08-23 05:19:09
It*


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-24 00:10:44
I have a problem with you being a fool. The game's premise is alternate history: what if George Washington had been a tyrant rather than the founding father he really was? Obviously nobody actually thinks that this is what he was really like.


Areozz2013-08-24 04:27:34
I think this is just a case of "MacArthur has never played this game and thus has no idea what it is really about." Nothing else to do here.


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:21:24
You're right i haven't played it but you never know who might take the premise of the game literally that's my concern.


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:23:54
cause some people who would wish to destroy this country would love people to believe that.


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:24:25
Inform me what is it about the story I mean


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:27:57
Cause if it turns out that washington is a hero figure at the end it would be fantastic news for me


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-24 15:36:42
You really think a fantasy/alternate-history game would pose a threat to the US by people taking it literally? Jesus. The Red Scare ended in the 1950s, you do know that, right?


Areozz2013-08-24 16:30:09
MacArthur, I hope you know that you can type more than one paragraph before submitting your comments.

See? See how easy it is? All I had to do is press 'Enter' twice. You ought to get all your thoughts completed and organized instead of posting one sentence at a time several minutes apart.

Plus: seriously?


MacArthur2013-08-24 18:54:39
Actually the Red scare ended in the 80's with Reagan.

So in essence, yes I do know when it ended. I also asked what the game story line was about.


Macejko2013-08-24 20:05:37
Are you aware of a magic tool known as Google?


AngryGuy2013-08-24 22:34:15
Leave it Macjeko, MacArthur sounds like a 9 years old retard, flooding all around, who hasn't understood this site is not Twitter.

At some point he'll get tired of flooding here, and he'll return where he belongs : far from here.


MacArthur2013-08-24 22:58:45
I know google but I read books you can't trust everything on google. Go read a book.

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-22 16:53:01
Great interview (with short snippets from the score and recording session) with Lorne and Hans about their involvement in Beyond: Two Souls
http: //www.youtube. com/watch?v=t2yAsaaWo9A

Can't wait to play the game, it sounds like something really interesting and inovative (both gameplay and videogame music vise)! :)

Assassino reply Replies: 0 || 2013-07-09 01:32:41
Brian Tyler will compose the score for AC4.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-04-09 19:49:46
Lorne is not scoring Assassin's Creed IV - Black Flag... He's too many projects going on, no time for it.


Jimmer2013-04-09 23:00:23
Do you know who is? Another Remote Control grunt or someone else?


Hybrid Soldier2013-04-09 23:20:36
Ask UbiSoft...


Assassino2013-04-10 06:25:34
That makes me sad... His work on AC3 was amazing. He is a master in his thing :(


Mike2013-04-12 03:55:02
Wonder if it'll be Jesper Kyd...


zeroman2013-04-12 05:33:27
I've also been wondering myself if Jesper Kyd is coming back to the franchise on this one. So far I still haven't any info anywhere at all who will be doing Black Flag.


Anonymous2013-05-22 09:37:16
Shame. I was looking forward to a At Worlds End take on Assassins Creed pirate theme by RCP.

Kyd will probably use a lot of ambient again instead of epicness.

zeroman reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-17 17:06:24
On facebook the composers they had listed were Jesper Kyd and Lorne Balfe. So I guess Kyd and Balfe will be working together again.

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zeroman2013-05-17 17:17:25
Correction: I mean't to say Kyd & Balfe will be working on Black Flag according to facebook.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 18:34:52
That's good news! Balfe's stuff is solid enough but Jesper Kyd is a more unique voice.


Everan2013-05-17 18:48:26
My fave was Revelations, loved how they worked! Looking forward for a pirate theme :D

OKKU reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-12 17:51:16

WONDERFULL! Greatjob.Thanks Lorne.....Dear All, You must listen this tracks :

-2-Ratonhnhaké Ton (2:30)
-10-Tracking The Prey (2:54)
-36-Man With The Wolf Hood (2:23)

zeroman reply Replies: 1 || 2013-03-23 05:33:11
I wonder who will be the composer for Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag. So far I haven't seen any info released on who the composer might be. I'm assuming Lorne might not be the composer for Assassins Creed 4 considering all the projects he's got going on this year....Then again I could be wrong.

Hybrid do you know if Lorne will be doing the score for Black Flag?


fabien2013-03-24 19:36:40
a fantastic score.
I would say also a dancing score sometimes. So funcky !
Love it!

Also reply Replies: 6 || 2013-03-22 06:18:35
I'd say Angels and Demons was another decent example of the level of awesome when they come together to collaborate. Almost all of the composers Edmund listed were working their asses off on A & D too.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-22 11:08:13
Yeah, definitely another good example. :)

Of course, on the flipside you have On Stranger Tides which is a prime example of how NOT to do it...


Jimmer2013-03-22 12:22:06
Tell me again why we're arguing with this ".e.eiknl." guy who obviously knows nothing about music since he's calling Lorne the worst composer from RC? Clearly this guy is a douche and should not even be given the time of day. The end.


Macejko2013-03-22 12:22:28
Personally, I'm not quite fond of an idea of multiple composers making one score. A film/television/game soundtrack, in my opinion, should be a focused work of one single guy. And although I have nothing against Lorne Balfe personally (he is not my favourite, but he can make some decent work sometimes), I really, really hate the idea of him always having multiple projects to do (just for 2013 he has 11 (!!!) scores coming up or already released), and other RCP composers are barely struggling with two or three each year. Every other score coming from RCP these days is from Balfe. There is absolutely no justice in that.


Mike2013-03-22 19:16:32
I'm with Macejko, to some degree. If "additional" composer means a few cues here and there, I'd be alright with it. But with a lot of Hans Zimmer scores they end up doing way more than just "additional" work. Hans writes the themes and these other guys go to work to make cues. If they want to do that, they could at least say on album covers, "Music by Hans Zimmer & Remote Control Productions". But to say just "Music by Hans Zimmer" seems a little dishonest.


.e.eieknl. 2013-03-22 22:53:38
Yeah!!! The Worst!!! Composer of RC and of the World!!!!


Areozz2013-03-23 04:42:00
^^Whoops! Looks like a fiercely opinionated 13-year-old found internet access again. There's no point in arguing with this .e.eieknl because he/she/it is entitled to his his/her/its own opinion and this is an open site.

.e.eieknl. reply Replies: 8 || 2013-03-21 20:38:36
Wow! 4 Additional Composer.... Lorne Balfe the Worst Composer from Remote Control!


Mike2013-03-21 20:42:46
No way...Didn't On Stranger Tides have more than that?


Mike2013-03-21 20:51:57
Oops...Here I go, derailing the discussion to another work again.

Sorry. lol.


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 21:19:13
Thinking in number is just plain stupid, actually.


Mike2013-03-21 21:32:14
Agreed. The number of additional composers doesn't really matter as long as they don't end up writing the whole score for the principal composer. If they're new, it gives them experience for later.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-21 22:27:04
At World's End had something like half a dozen additional composers and look how that turned out. Each composer got to shine, too: Zanelli with the new big Calypso piece, Orvarsson with Cutler Beckett's death, Jackman with Up is Down and the wedding action cue, Balfe with some of the Beckett-related stuff like Just Good Business, Gire and Sponsler with the first part of the maelstrom battle (man, it's nice to finally hear that cue SFX-free) and of course Zimmer himself coordinating the whole thing with all those amazing themes, new and old.

To me At World's End is the ultimate example of the RC collaborative system at its very best. So much talent, so much amazing music. So don't knock a score just because of the additional composers!

Boom, topic derailed AGAIN. ;)


.e.eieknl. 2013-03-22 00:17:27
THE WORST COMPOSER FROM REMOTE CONROL!


Mike2013-03-22 00:18:00
lol, Edmund


Barbarosa2222013-03-22 22:06:38
The worst? Are you deaf and blind? You just can´t see the huge amount of talent as Lorne definitely has! He is the main follower of Zimmer, he is like him in his youth... Tell me, where you can find so massive piece of emotions like in Balfe´s work? Huh? Do you know, how many movies and games he is actualy working? Many, and therefore 4 additional composers.

David reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-21 12:43:34
Wow! Is it out? Or when it will be released?


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 12:49:11
It has "unofficially" leaked but will hit digital stores next month. I'm waiting for the release date... :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 19:15:11
It should be released on april the 23rd !


Mike2013-03-21 20:33:29
Is it just me, or are Lorne Balfe albums generally pretty long?

[This would be a good thing] :)

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-21 13:50:29
It's good to see that Insanity Wolf is getting popular :)

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