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I can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfe’s part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesn’t seem to represent that for some reason.I really liked Richter’s score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...
@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richter’s score is used (alongside Balfe’s material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly it’s a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, it’s very pretty. I’ll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His “Music For Airports” and “The Lovely Bones” are excellent if you like more introspective music.btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>
Really surprised at this album, I’ve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. It’s funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfe’s contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). It’s disappointing that they didn’t include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!
Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. I’ll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things I’ve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe I’m just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.It’s definitely Balfe. I’ve seen the film for the second time two weeks ago so my memory is kind of hazy but luckily I decided to record the end credits for reference and I think it plays in Balfe’s section / variation of one of his themes played on a solo string instrument. <br><br>I think we got most of Richter cues as it was mainly his release. I feel that Lorne has moved on from this project - he didn’t even mention the release so an extended release of his material seems unlikely to happen :( <br><br>For those interested the credits suite plays as follows: <br><br><br>“A Trip To The Moon” (synth part)<br>“I Put All That Away”<br>Variation on the theme in “Underground Lake” at 0:14<br>Variation on the theme in “Trip To Neptune” 0-1:00<br>“To The Stars”Season 2 premieres in 2 weeks, if he was scoring he would be working on it at the moment. But yes no confirmation regarding his return or a new composer. No news regarding new composer might be a hint whether Djawadi is returning or not.I only listened to the first couple of cues so it is too early to form an opinion comparing it to JNH but I disagree the first half drags. Maybe because I love tender themes.
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Assassin's Creed III - The Tyranny Of King Washington (VG)
Label: UbiSoft Music (Digital Download Only)
Length: 98'27
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  1. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme (Wall Of Sound Remix) (3:08)
  2. Ratonhnhaké Ton (2:30)
  3. The Tyrant (3:20)
  4. Frozen (2:56)
  5. Solitude (1:38)
  6. Frontier At Arms (3:19)
  7. Winter's Grasp (3:10)
  8. You Must Succeed (2:16)
  9. Seekers (1:29)
  10. Tracking The Prey (2:54)
  11. Against All Odds (2:35)
  12. He Is Our Beacon (2:01)
  13. The Betrayal (3:35)
  14. Swift And Silent (2:31)
  15. Rooftop Chase (2:28)
  16. Dark Alleys (2:07)
  17. The Key (2:15)
  18. Escape Artist (1:50)
  19. Closed City (2:19)
  20. Helpless (2:26)
  21. The Ruse (2:48)
  22. Nightmares (2:21)
  23. The Redemption (2:55)
  24. Fallen Warriors (2:35)
  25. Wolf In Sheep's Clothing (1:11)
  26. Taking Up Arms (1:39)
  27. The True Rulers (1:21)
  28. Risking Everything (2:12)
  29. Alone Against All (2:53)
  30. Unwavering Resolve (1:41)
  31. Laying Up The Trap (1:00)
  32. The Will To Endure (2:19)
  33. King Washington (3:37)
  34. Ghost Trail (2:31)
  35. Duel At Dawn (2:17)
  36. Man With The Wolf Hood (2:23)
  37. The Betrayal (Alternate Version) (3:35)
  38. The Redemption (Alternate Version) (2:54)
  39. King Washington (Alternate Version) (3:37)
  40. King Washington (Revisited Version) (1:49)
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MacArthur reply Replies: 18 || 2013-08-22 22:42:49
Anyone know why the title is against George Washington


MacArthur2013-08-22 22:47:19
Cause for one i know he wasn't a King and 2 he wasn't a tyrant


Macejko2013-08-22 23:31:26
Whereas you are the king of stupid questions.


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-23 02:59:28
I believe a facepalm is in order.


MacArthur2013-08-23 03:28:22
You have a problem with the question


MacArthur2013-08-23 05:18:49
I just sounds like a lot of propaganda


MacArthur2013-08-23 05:19:09
It*


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-24 00:10:44
I have a problem with you being a fool. The game's premise is alternate history: what if George Washington had been a tyrant rather than the founding father he really was? Obviously nobody actually thinks that this is what he was really like.


Areozz2013-08-24 04:27:34
I think this is just a case of "MacArthur has never played this game and thus has no idea what it is really about." Nothing else to do here.


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:21:24
You're right i haven't played it but you never know who might take the premise of the game literally that's my concern.


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:23:54
cause some people who would wish to destroy this country would love people to believe that.


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:24:25
Inform me what is it about the story I mean


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:27:57
Cause if it turns out that washington is a hero figure at the end it would be fantastic news for me


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-24 15:36:42
You really think a fantasy/alternate-history game would pose a threat to the US by people taking it literally? Jesus. The Red Scare ended in the 1950s, you do know that, right?


Areozz2013-08-24 16:30:09
MacArthur, I hope you know that you can type more than one paragraph before submitting your comments.

See? See how easy it is? All I had to do is press 'Enter' twice. You ought to get all your thoughts completed and organized instead of posting one sentence at a time several minutes apart.

Plus: seriously?


MacArthur2013-08-24 18:54:39
Actually the Red scare ended in the 80's with Reagan.

So in essence, yes I do know when it ended. I also asked what the game story line was about.


Macejko2013-08-24 20:05:37
Are you aware of a magic tool known as Google?


AngryGuy2013-08-24 22:34:15
Leave it Macjeko, MacArthur sounds like a 9 years old retard, flooding all around, who hasn't understood this site is not Twitter.

At some point he'll get tired of flooding here, and he'll return where he belongs : far from here.


MacArthur2013-08-24 22:58:45
I know google but I read books you can't trust everything on google. Go read a book.

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-22 16:53:01
Great interview (with short snippets from the score and recording session) with Lorne and Hans about their involvement in Beyond: Two Souls
http: //www.youtube. com/watch?v=t2yAsaaWo9A

Can't wait to play the game, it sounds like something really interesting and inovative (both gameplay and videogame music vise)! :)

Assassino reply Replies: 0 || 2013-07-09 01:32:41
Brian Tyler will compose the score for AC4.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-04-09 19:49:46
Lorne is not scoring Assassin's Creed IV - Black Flag... He's too many projects going on, no time for it.


Jimmer2013-04-09 23:00:23
Do you know who is? Another Remote Control grunt or someone else?


Hybrid Soldier2013-04-09 23:20:36
Ask UbiSoft...


Assassino2013-04-10 06:25:34
That makes me sad... His work on AC3 was amazing. He is a master in his thing :(


Mike2013-04-12 03:55:02
Wonder if it'll be Jesper Kyd...


zeroman2013-04-12 05:33:27
I've also been wondering myself if Jesper Kyd is coming back to the franchise on this one. So far I still haven't any info anywhere at all who will be doing Black Flag.


Anonymous2013-05-22 09:37:16
Shame. I was looking forward to a At Worlds End take on Assassins Creed pirate theme by RCP.

Kyd will probably use a lot of ambient again instead of epicness.

zeroman reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-17 17:06:24
On facebook the composers they had listed were Jesper Kyd and Lorne Balfe. So I guess Kyd and Balfe will be working together again.


zeroman2013-05-17 17:17:25
Correction: I mean't to say Kyd & Balfe will be working on Black Flag according to facebook.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 18:34:52
That's good news! Balfe's stuff is solid enough but Jesper Kyd is a more unique voice.


Everan2013-05-17 18:48:26
My fave was Revelations, loved how they worked! Looking forward for a pirate theme :D

OKKU reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-12 17:51:16

WONDERFULL! Greatjob.Thanks Lorne.....Dear All, You must listen this tracks :

-2-Ratonhnhaké Ton (2:30)
-10-Tracking The Prey (2:54)
-36-Man With The Wolf Hood (2:23)

zeroman reply Replies: 1 || 2013-03-23 05:33:11
I wonder who will be the composer for Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag. So far I haven't seen any info released on who the composer might be. I'm assuming Lorne might not be the composer for Assassins Creed 4 considering all the projects he's got going on this year....Then again I could be wrong.

Hybrid do you know if Lorne will be doing the score for Black Flag?

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fabien2013-03-24 19:36:40
a fantastic score.
I would say also a dancing score sometimes. So funcky !
Love it!

Also reply Replies: 6 || 2013-03-22 06:18:35
I'd say Angels and Demons was another decent example of the level of awesome when they come together to collaborate. Almost all of the composers Edmund listed were working their asses off on A & D too.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-22 11:08:13
Yeah, definitely another good example. :)

Of course, on the flipside you have On Stranger Tides which is a prime example of how NOT to do it...


Jimmer2013-03-22 12:22:06
Tell me again why we're arguing with this ".e.eiknl." guy who obviously knows nothing about music since he's calling Lorne the worst composer from RC? Clearly this guy is a douche and should not even be given the time of day. The end.


Macejko2013-03-22 12:22:28
Personally, I'm not quite fond of an idea of multiple composers making one score. A film/television/game soundtrack, in my opinion, should be a focused work of one single guy. And although I have nothing against Lorne Balfe personally (he is not my favourite, but he can make some decent work sometimes), I really, really hate the idea of him always having multiple projects to do (just for 2013 he has 11 (!!!) scores coming up or already released), and other RCP composers are barely struggling with two or three each year. Every other score coming from RCP these days is from Balfe. There is absolutely no justice in that.


Mike2013-03-22 19:16:32
I'm with Macejko, to some degree. If "additional" composer means a few cues here and there, I'd be alright with it. But with a lot of Hans Zimmer scores they end up doing way more than just "additional" work. Hans writes the themes and these other guys go to work to make cues. If they want to do that, they could at least say on album covers, "Music by Hans Zimmer & Remote Control Productions". But to say just "Music by Hans Zimmer" seems a little dishonest.


.e.eieknl. 2013-03-22 22:53:38
Yeah!!! The Worst!!! Composer of RC and of the World!!!!


Areozz2013-03-23 04:42:00
^^Whoops! Looks like a fiercely opinionated 13-year-old found internet access again. There's no point in arguing with this .e.eieknl because he/she/it is entitled to his his/her/its own opinion and this is an open site.

.e.eieknl. reply Replies: 8 || 2013-03-21 20:38:36
Wow! 4 Additional Composer.... Lorne Balfe the Worst Composer from Remote Control!


Mike2013-03-21 20:42:46
No way...Didn't On Stranger Tides have more than that?


Mike2013-03-21 20:51:57
Oops...Here I go, derailing the discussion to another work again.

Sorry. lol.


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 21:19:13
Thinking in number is just plain stupid, actually.


Mike2013-03-21 21:32:14
Agreed. The number of additional composers doesn't really matter as long as they don't end up writing the whole score for the principal composer. If they're new, it gives them experience for later.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-21 22:27:04
At World's End had something like half a dozen additional composers and look how that turned out. Each composer got to shine, too: Zanelli with the new big Calypso piece, Orvarsson with Cutler Beckett's death, Jackman with Up is Down and the wedding action cue, Balfe with some of the Beckett-related stuff like Just Good Business, Gire and Sponsler with the first part of the maelstrom battle (man, it's nice to finally hear that cue SFX-free) and of course Zimmer himself coordinating the whole thing with all those amazing themes, new and old.

To me At World's End is the ultimate example of the RC collaborative system at its very best. So much talent, so much amazing music. So don't knock a score just because of the additional composers!

Boom, topic derailed AGAIN. ;)


.e.eieknl. 2013-03-22 00:17:27
THE WORST COMPOSER FROM REMOTE CONROL!


Mike2013-03-22 00:18:00
lol, Edmund


Barbarosa2222013-03-22 22:06:38
The worst? Are you deaf and blind? You just can´t see the huge amount of talent as Lorne definitely has! He is the main follower of Zimmer, he is like him in his youth... Tell me, where you can find so massive piece of emotions like in Balfe´s work? Huh? Do you know, how many movies and games he is actualy working? Many, and therefore 4 additional composers.

David reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-21 12:43:34
Wow! Is it out? Or when it will be released?


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 12:49:11
It has "unofficially" leaked but will hit digital stores next month. I'm waiting for the release date... :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 19:15:11
It should be released on april the 23rd !


Mike2013-03-21 20:33:29
Is it just me, or are Lorne Balfe albums generally pretty long?

[This would be a good thing] :)

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-21 13:50:29
It's good to see that Insanity Wolf is getting popular :)

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