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Me tooExcited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astra
honnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?I love the score. It is action packed and to the point.<br><br>I saw his orchestra clips as well but I wonder why he actually spends the money and effort for orchestra when the end product sounds (as usually) 100 percent sample library. All the dynamics of real players are gone in the final mix so why bother with orchestra at all...
I'm highly disappointed by the score... Lorne went the very easy way and recycled the MW2 score as well as the Mancina theme in almost every track. Like seriously... the only thing u here is MW2, Main Theme and lot of rustle-synth score. 1/10! No effort went in this score and I dont say that often.As for Ad Astra, unfortunately i can't hear anything from Ad Astra aswell :/ It's just MW2 mixed with Mancinas themes for me. And the cues from MW2, they aren't just drums, all the guitars, melodies, vibes, even the choir or the voices are included. The above mentioned cues from MW2 are not complete, there are plenty of them, but these will give you the idea of what we've mentioned. Again, i'm not mad, i'm happy that a wider audience can hear these cues, but then again, on MW2 they sounded better and fresher than on the BB3 score (i mean the quality of the recordings - you can hear the cues and instruments more directly. On the BB3 score it sounds like being in a bathroom hearing to the MW2 score). And as i said earlier, i would like to understand or know what Lorne thought about using all these cues. Time pressure? Unused opportunity for a wider audience? And then again that synth-sound even using a real orchestra :/@ Mr Tweedy:<br><br>MW2 has hundred of cues, which has all the special atmosphere and sound-effects, but try listen to these cues to understand what i and others mean:<br><br>- Guerilla Tactics <br>- Guerilla<br>- Contingency<br>- Breach<br>- Retreat and Reveille<br><br>Funny thing, play the cue "Guerilla Tactics" from MW2 and let Shazam try to find out what track that is. It shows me as "Lorne Balfe - We're Dangerous People" from BB3 :DI really like this score!<br>Sure he used Mancina's Theme, that's allright cool, I don't hear anything similar to Ad Astra....don't know why somebody compare this score with Ad Astra....<br>That MW2 sounds are very great, he don't copy himself, he just used the Drums, what's definitely be OK!!<br><br>I don't know why people always want to compare scores....Everybody use his own Temp Music sometimes, that's normal!Please could you give me the exact name of the track from MW2 that is used in BB3? I’d like to compare both!
I love Lorne´s music and all, but I am genuinely wondering, why they decided to re-use MW2 so much in the scoreas for the drums, yes, i would understand. but the orchestra? you're recording the strings from a real orchestra, so why the downgrade in sound-quality?Because that parts are sampled drums and there are no real?i don't know what to think about the use of mw2. i mean, i love his work for mw2, it's TOO good to be just a score for a game, a wider audience should hear this, so i'm kind of happy to hear some parts of it here. BUT somehow, it's kind of a lazy move just to copy that 1:1. some cues are untouched and some cues are layered with some themes of mancina. i would be interested to know what was he thinking while doing this? <br><br>i followed his video uploads on his social media channels, where he showed some snippets of the orchestra and i truly loved that. but while hearing at the score, i'm dissappointed to hear the quality as it sounds like synth. i mean that typically Balfe synth sound quality. if he uses truly orchestra, than it's a shame and pitty that it sounds like synths in the end. he needs a better recording or mixing or whatever to get rid of that synth-quality-design and having the true-orchestra feelingMancina's theme + Ad Astra + MW:2= Bad boys for Life.
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Assassin's Creed III - The Tyranny Of King Washington (VG)
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Length: 98'27
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  1. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme (Wall Of Sound Remix) (3:08)
  2. Ratonhnhaké Ton (2:30)
  3. The Tyrant (3:20)
  4. Frozen (2:56)
  5. Solitude (1:38)
  6. Frontier At Arms (3:19)
  7. Winter's Grasp (3:10)
  8. You Must Succeed (2:16)
  9. Seekers (1:29)
  10. Tracking The Prey (2:54)
  11. Against All Odds (2:35)
  12. He Is Our Beacon (2:01)
  13. The Betrayal (3:35)
  14. Swift And Silent (2:31)
  15. Rooftop Chase (2:28)
  16. Dark Alleys (2:07)
  17. The Key (2:15)
  18. Escape Artist (1:50)
  19. Closed City (2:19)
  20. Helpless (2:26)
  21. The Ruse (2:48)
  22. Nightmares (2:21)
  23. The Redemption (2:55)
  24. Fallen Warriors (2:35)
  25. Wolf In Sheep's Clothing (1:11)
  26. Taking Up Arms (1:39)
  27. The True Rulers (1:21)
  28. Risking Everything (2:12)
  29. Alone Against All (2:53)
  30. Unwavering Resolve (1:41)
  31. Laying Up The Trap (1:00)
  32. The Will To Endure (2:19)
  33. King Washington (3:37)
  34. Ghost Trail (2:31)
  35. Duel At Dawn (2:17)
  36. Man With The Wolf Hood (2:23)
  37. The Betrayal (Alternate Version) (3:35)
  38. The Redemption (Alternate Version) (2:54)
  39. King Washington (Alternate Version) (3:37)
  40. King Washington (Revisited Version) (1:49)
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MacArthur reply Replies: 18 || 2013-08-22 22:42:49
Anyone know why the title is against George Washington


MacArthur2013-08-22 22:47:19
Cause for one i know he wasn't a King and 2 he wasn't a tyrant


Macejko2013-08-22 23:31:26
Whereas you are the king of stupid questions.


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-23 02:59:28
I believe a facepalm is in order.


MacArthur2013-08-23 03:28:22
You have a problem with the question


MacArthur2013-08-23 05:18:49
I just sounds like a lot of propaganda


MacArthur2013-08-23 05:19:09
It*


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-24 00:10:44
I have a problem with you being a fool. The game's premise is alternate history: what if George Washington had been a tyrant rather than the founding father he really was? Obviously nobody actually thinks that this is what he was really like.


Areozz2013-08-24 04:27:34
I think this is just a case of "MacArthur has never played this game and thus has no idea what it is really about." Nothing else to do here.


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:21:24
You're right i haven't played it but you never know who might take the premise of the game literally that's my concern.


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:23:54
cause some people who would wish to destroy this country would love people to believe that.


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:24:25
Inform me what is it about the story I mean


MacArthur2013-08-24 07:27:57
Cause if it turns out that washington is a hero figure at the end it would be fantastic news for me


Edmund Meinerts2013-08-24 15:36:42
You really think a fantasy/alternate-history game would pose a threat to the US by people taking it literally? Jesus. The Red Scare ended in the 1950s, you do know that, right?


Areozz2013-08-24 16:30:09
MacArthur, I hope you know that you can type more than one paragraph before submitting your comments.

See? See how easy it is? All I had to do is press 'Enter' twice. You ought to get all your thoughts completed and organized instead of posting one sentence at a time several minutes apart.

Plus: seriously?


MacArthur2013-08-24 18:54:39
Actually the Red scare ended in the 80's with Reagan.

So in essence, yes I do know when it ended. I also asked what the game story line was about.


Macejko2013-08-24 20:05:37
Are you aware of a magic tool known as Google?


AngryGuy2013-08-24 22:34:15
Leave it Macjeko, MacArthur sounds like a 9 years old retard, flooding all around, who hasn't understood this site is not Twitter.

At some point he'll get tired of flooding here, and he'll return where he belongs : far from here.


MacArthur2013-08-24 22:58:45
I know google but I read books you can't trust everything on google. Go read a book.

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-22 16:53:01
Great interview (with short snippets from the score and recording session) with Lorne and Hans about their involvement in Beyond: Two Souls
http: //www.youtube. com/watch?v=t2yAsaaWo9A

Can't wait to play the game, it sounds like something really interesting and inovative (both gameplay and videogame music vise)! :)

Assassino reply Replies: 0 || 2013-07-09 01:32:41
Brian Tyler will compose the score for AC4.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-04-09 19:49:46
Lorne is not scoring Assassin's Creed IV - Black Flag... He's too many projects going on, no time for it.


Jimmer2013-04-09 23:00:23
Do you know who is? Another Remote Control grunt or someone else?


Hybrid Soldier2013-04-09 23:20:36
Ask UbiSoft...


Assassino2013-04-10 06:25:34
That makes me sad... His work on AC3 was amazing. He is a master in his thing :(


Mike2013-04-12 03:55:02
Wonder if it'll be Jesper Kyd...


zeroman2013-04-12 05:33:27
I've also been wondering myself if Jesper Kyd is coming back to the franchise on this one. So far I still haven't any info anywhere at all who will be doing Black Flag.


Anonymous2013-05-22 09:37:16
Shame. I was looking forward to a At Worlds End take on Assassins Creed pirate theme by RCP.

Kyd will probably use a lot of ambient again instead of epicness.

zeroman reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-17 17:06:24
On facebook the composers they had listed were Jesper Kyd and Lorne Balfe. So I guess Kyd and Balfe will be working together again.


zeroman2013-05-17 17:17:25
Correction: I mean't to say Kyd & Balfe will be working on Black Flag according to facebook.


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 18:34:52
That's good news! Balfe's stuff is solid enough but Jesper Kyd is a more unique voice.


Everan2013-05-17 18:48:26
My fave was Revelations, loved how they worked! Looking forward for a pirate theme :D

OKKU reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-12 17:51:16

WONDERFULL! Greatjob.Thanks Lorne.....Dear All, You must listen this tracks :

-2-Ratonhnhaké Ton (2:30)
-10-Tracking The Prey (2:54)
-36-Man With The Wolf Hood (2:23)

zeroman reply Replies: 1 || 2013-03-23 05:33:11
I wonder who will be the composer for Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag. So far I haven't seen any info released on who the composer might be. I'm assuming Lorne might not be the composer for Assassins Creed 4 considering all the projects he's got going on this year....Then again I could be wrong.

Hybrid do you know if Lorne will be doing the score for Black Flag?


fabien2013-03-24 19:36:40
a fantastic score.
I would say also a dancing score sometimes. So funcky !
Love it!

Also reply Replies: 6 || 2013-03-22 06:18:35
I'd say Angels and Demons was another decent example of the level of awesome when they come together to collaborate. Almost all of the composers Edmund listed were working their asses off on A & D too.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-22 11:08:13
Yeah, definitely another good example. :)

Of course, on the flipside you have On Stranger Tides which is a prime example of how NOT to do it...


Jimmer2013-03-22 12:22:06
Tell me again why we're arguing with this ".e.eiknl." guy who obviously knows nothing about music since he's calling Lorne the worst composer from RC? Clearly this guy is a douche and should not even be given the time of day. The end.


Macejko2013-03-22 12:22:28
Personally, I'm not quite fond of an idea of multiple composers making one score. A film/television/game soundtrack, in my opinion, should be a focused work of one single guy. And although I have nothing against Lorne Balfe personally (he is not my favourite, but he can make some decent work sometimes), I really, really hate the idea of him always having multiple projects to do (just for 2013 he has 11 (!!!) scores coming up or already released), and other RCP composers are barely struggling with two or three each year. Every other score coming from RCP these days is from Balfe. There is absolutely no justice in that.


Mike2013-03-22 19:16:32
I'm with Macejko, to some degree. If "additional" composer means a few cues here and there, I'd be alright with it. But with a lot of Hans Zimmer scores they end up doing way more than just "additional" work. Hans writes the themes and these other guys go to work to make cues. If they want to do that, they could at least say on album covers, "Music by Hans Zimmer & Remote Control Productions". But to say just "Music by Hans Zimmer" seems a little dishonest.


.e.eieknl. 2013-03-22 22:53:38
Yeah!!! The Worst!!! Composer of RC and of the World!!!!


Areozz2013-03-23 04:42:00
^^Whoops! Looks like a fiercely opinionated 13-year-old found internet access again. There's no point in arguing with this .e.eieknl because he/she/it is entitled to his his/her/its own opinion and this is an open site.

.e.eieknl. reply Replies: 8 || 2013-03-21 20:38:36
Wow! 4 Additional Composer.... Lorne Balfe the Worst Composer from Remote Control!


Mike2013-03-21 20:42:46
No way...Didn't On Stranger Tides have more than that?


Mike2013-03-21 20:51:57
Oops...Here I go, derailing the discussion to another work again.

Sorry. lol.


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 21:19:13
Thinking in number is just plain stupid, actually.


Mike2013-03-21 21:32:14
Agreed. The number of additional composers doesn't really matter as long as they don't end up writing the whole score for the principal composer. If they're new, it gives them experience for later.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-21 22:27:04
At World's End had something like half a dozen additional composers and look how that turned out. Each composer got to shine, too: Zanelli with the new big Calypso piece, Orvarsson with Cutler Beckett's death, Jackman with Up is Down and the wedding action cue, Balfe with some of the Beckett-related stuff like Just Good Business, Gire and Sponsler with the first part of the maelstrom battle (man, it's nice to finally hear that cue SFX-free) and of course Zimmer himself coordinating the whole thing with all those amazing themes, new and old.

To me At World's End is the ultimate example of the RC collaborative system at its very best. So much talent, so much amazing music. So don't knock a score just because of the additional composers!

Boom, topic derailed AGAIN. ;)


.e.eieknl. 2013-03-22 00:17:27
THE WORST COMPOSER FROM REMOTE CONROL!


Mike2013-03-22 00:18:00
lol, Edmund


Barbarosa2222013-03-22 22:06:38
The worst? Are you deaf and blind? You just can´t see the huge amount of talent as Lorne definitely has! He is the main follower of Zimmer, he is like him in his youth... Tell me, where you can find so massive piece of emotions like in Balfe´s work? Huh? Do you know, how many movies and games he is actualy working? Many, and therefore 4 additional composers.

David reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-21 12:43:34
Wow! Is it out? Or when it will be released?


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 12:49:11
It has "unofficially" leaked but will hit digital stores next month. I'm waiting for the release date... :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 19:15:11
It should be released on april the 23rd !


Mike2013-03-21 20:33:29
Is it just me, or are Lorne Balfe albums generally pretty long?

[This would be a good thing] :)

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-21 13:50:29
It's good to see that Insanity Wolf is getting popular :)

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