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Wow. Pretty solid! It keeps the core track intact and, somehow, adds even more raw power into it. Thanks for sharing!@MrZimmerFan<br><br><Is better because there is variety and orchestration><br><br>It is not because a score is orchestrated that it is automatically superior to one half orchestrated and half electronic. My problem with JL is that it's a small score for a composer with as many facets as Elfman. The music is uninspired and (taking one or another track) ends as it begins, nothing catches yours ears beyond of the romantic moments and of the new interpretations of the themes for the heroes.<br><br>@mpolonest<br><br><I actually love that score, but I think the main issue is Elfman completely ignoring what came before and trying to force the classic themes.><br><br>Elfman had two paths: Ignore everything and do things his way or respect what Zimmer did and maintain the sound of previous films. What did he do? He made an uninspiring hybrid of both.<br><br>@HybridSoldier<br><br><Leagues above, and yet I doubt Ben will be able to write something like "Brothers In Arms" from Mad Max.><br><br>Everyone in RCP knows how to do a power anthem these days.<br><br>@Mephariel<br><br><I would not have gotten a chance to work on blockbuster films like Dunkirk, Blade Runner 2049 without Zimmer's influence.><br><br>Obviously not. It could be in smaller jobs and present some potential for years to come.<br>I think I just sharted myself. Thanks!I'm surprised to have not seen more discussion of this score; I honestly think it represents some of the best music out of RCP in the past half-decade. Yeah, it still has the Journey to the Line / Time four-chord power anthem thing going on, but outside of those themes you have some really creative material that at times doesn't even feel stylistically RCP, and hell, even those structurally-simplistic themes are unusually well-orchestrated. And there's a real orchestra!Some of you may like this guy's cover of Brothers in Arms! Pretty epic, honestly. <br><br> com/watch?v=LCIY41hopq4
This score has improved my mood on more than one occasion. Nancy Meyers needs to make another movie, so Hans can score it. lol.Hello great team of Hans Zimmer,<br><br>I was recently listening to "The Might of Rome" (Gladiator soundtrack) and I am craving to listen the long version of the piece around 2:38 - 2:48 (something like an oriental flute). Does it exist as a standalone composition? Is it inspired from some third party artist, if yes, can you please tell my which one?<br><br>Thanks!@Olive<br><br>Wallfisch's career unquestionably benefited from his involvement with Zimmer. He wouldn't have gotten a chance to work on blockbuster films like Dunkirk, Blade Runner 2049 without Zimmer's influence. Wallfisch is a very talented composer, but let's be honest here, his music doesn't immediately strikes anyone as a big action guy. Having Zimmer's name pushing you helps.Hybrid, what do you admire more: Black Hawk Down or Tears of the Sun?"Elfman's score is like Whedon, horrendous & out of place."<br><br>Out of place, yes. Horrendous, no.
Leagues above, and yet I doubt Ben will ever be able to write something like "Brothers In Arms" from Mad Max.<br><br>Comparing people is kinda useless...<br><br>The only who's right is Hans in the end, he knows when to use one and when to use the other... ;)@Edmund<br>Iím in the same boat. When I watch a movie I normally donít pay attention to the music unless itís really distinctive. As a stand alone listening experience I usually want to get music that fits a mood and can hold my interest throughout. Take Silvestriís Avengers score for example. The big statements of the main theme and some of the action cues are excellent. Unfortunately itís surrounded by generic underscore that slows the album down imo. But then you have TASM2, which constantly has something going on no matter what. I feel like thatís something which does relate to the directors, not so much the talent level of the composers.<br><br>@olive<br>Ben Wallfisch is LEAGUES ahead of JXL as a composer, partly because heís had years of experience in film composing. Hopefully his recent successes give him more high profile projects.<br><br>As for Justice League, I actually love that score, but I think the main issue is Elfman completely ignoring what came before and trying to force in the classic themes. Had he done his own spin on Zimmerís material there would a better connection to the previous ones.Elfman's score is like Whedon, horrendous & out of place.@Olive: Is better because there is variety and orchestration, and i'm not a purist (i liked BvS, there is more complexity in it than in MoS), but Danny Elfman has more integrity in that score than in that two scores.He did!<br><br>The action material in "Do You Bleed?" is by XL! <br>
Wallfisch has shown himself to be a superior composer to XL, let's face it. I do not even see why he's running after Zimmer since he's able to run a career himself.<br><br>@TheZimmerFan <br><br><But the score by Elfman is miles better than MoS and BvS (for those two, BvS is much interesting and better than MoS, which is only good)><br><br><br>The music is less simplistic and may please the purists, but, no, MoS and BvS are better by a small margin than JL by one factor: thematic material and characterization of the movie.  Elfman should have had more freedom to work on the themes he and Williams wrote.<br>It's a half-truth to everyone who makes up the RCP team, unfortunately. <br><br>But I honestly doubt that ANYONE wants to work with XL.<br><br>Snyder worked with him 3 times. 300, BvS and Man of Steel. Sometimes I even get the impression that he's always liked Tom's approach more than Zimmer's approach. See all the percussion and synths of all those scores that are far more present in the Xl field than Zimmer's.Got this today..well not my music type so pass it...Andrew's second solo feature...<br><br><br>Now still waiting for that Sky Hunter release... :(@Hybrid, what happened with Trevor? Why his scores are not listed in the page? Thanks

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Assassin's Creed III - The Tyranny Of King Washington (VG)
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  1. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme (Wall Of Sound Remix) (3:08)
  2. Ratonhnhakť Ton (2:30)
  3. The Tyrant (3:20)
  4. Frozen (2:56)
  5. Solitude (1:38)
  6. Frontier At Arms (3:19)
  7. Winter's Grasp (3:10)
  8. You Must Succeed (2:16)
  9. Seekers (1:29)
  10. Tracking The Prey (2:54)
  11. Against All Odds (2:35)
  12. He Is Our Beacon (2:01)
  13. The Betrayal (3:35)
  14. Swift And Silent (2:31)
  15. Rooftop Chase (2:28)
  16. Dark Alleys (2:07)
  17. The Key (2:15)
  18. Escape Artist (1:50)
  19. Closed City (2:19)
  20. Helpless (2:26)
  21. The Ruse (2:48)
  22. Nightmares (2:21)
  23. The Redemption (2:55)
  24. Fallen Warriors (2:35)
  25. Wolf In Sheep's Clothing (1:11)
  26. Taking Up Arms (1:39)
  27. The True Rulers (1:21)
  28. Risking Everything (2:12)
  29. Alone Against All (2:53)
  30. Unwavering Resolve (1:41)
  31. Laying Up The Trap (1:00)
  32. The Will To Endure (2:19)
  33. King Washington (3:37)
  34. Ghost Trail (2:31)
  35. Duel At Dawn (2:17)
  36. Man With The Wolf Hood (2:23)
  37. The Betrayal (Alternate Version) (3:35)
  38. The Redemption (Alternate Version) (2:54)
  39. King Washington (Alternate Version) (3:37)
  40. King Washington (Revisited Version) (1:49)
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MacArthur reply Replies: 18 || 2013-08-22 22:42:49
Anyone know why the title is against George Washington

MacArthur2013-08-22 22:47:19
Cause for one i know he wasn't a King and 2 he wasn't a tyrant

Macejko2013-08-22 23:31:26
Whereas you are the king of stupid questions.

Edmund Meinerts2013-08-23 02:59:28
I believe a facepalm is in order.

MacArthur2013-08-23 03:28:22
You have a problem with the question

MacArthur2013-08-23 05:18:49
I just sounds like a lot of propaganda

MacArthur2013-08-23 05:19:09

Edmund Meinerts2013-08-24 00:10:44
I have a problem with you being a fool. The game's premise is alternate history: what if George Washington had been a tyrant rather than the founding father he really was? Obviously nobody actually thinks that this is what he was really like.

Areozz2013-08-24 04:27:34
I think this is just a case of "MacArthur has never played this game and thus has no idea what it is really about." Nothing else to do here.

MacArthur2013-08-24 07:21:24
You're right i haven't played it but you never know who might take the premise of the game literally that's my concern.

MacArthur2013-08-24 07:23:54
cause some people who would wish to destroy this country would love people to believe that.

MacArthur2013-08-24 07:24:25
Inform me what is it about the story I mean

MacArthur2013-08-24 07:27:57
Cause if it turns out that washington is a hero figure at the end it would be fantastic news for me

Edmund Meinerts2013-08-24 15:36:42
You really think a fantasy/alternate-history game would pose a threat to the US by people taking it literally? Jesus. The Red Scare ended in the 1950s, you do know that, right?

Areozz2013-08-24 16:30:09
MacArthur, I hope you know that you can type more than one paragraph before submitting your comments.

See? See how easy it is? All I had to do is press 'Enter' twice. You ought to get all your thoughts completed and organized instead of posting one sentence at a time several minutes apart.

Plus: seriously?

MacArthur2013-08-24 18:54:39
Actually the Red scare ended in the 80's with Reagan.

So in essence, yes I do know when it ended. I also asked what the game story line was about.

Macejko2013-08-24 20:05:37
Are you aware of a magic tool known as Google?

AngryGuy2013-08-24 22:34:15
Leave it Macjeko, MacArthur sounds like a 9 years old retard, flooding all around, who hasn't understood this site is not Twitter.

At some point he'll get tired of flooding here, and he'll return where he belongs : far from here.

MacArthur2013-08-24 22:58:45
I know google but I read books you can't trust everything on google. Go read a book.

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-22 16:53:01
Great interview (with short snippets from the score and recording session) with Lorne and Hans about their involvement in Beyond: Two Souls
http: // com/watch?v=t2yAsaaWo9A

Can't wait to play the game, it sounds like something really interesting and inovative (both gameplay and videogame music vise)! :)

Assassino reply Replies: 0 || 2013-07-09 01:32:41
Brian Tyler will compose the score for AC4.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2013-04-09 19:49:46
Lorne is not scoring Assassin's Creed IV - Black Flag... He's too many projects going on, no time for it.

Jimmer2013-04-09 23:00:23
Do you know who is? Another Remote Control grunt or someone else?

Hybrid Soldier2013-04-09 23:20:36
Ask UbiSoft...

Assassino2013-04-10 06:25:34
That makes me sad... His work on AC3 was amazing. He is a master in his thing :(

Mike2013-04-12 03:55:02
Wonder if it'll be Jesper Kyd...

zeroman2013-04-12 05:33:27
I've also been wondering myself if Jesper Kyd is coming back to the franchise on this one. So far I still haven't any info anywhere at all who will be doing Black Flag.

Anonymous2013-05-22 09:37:16
Shame. I was looking forward to a At Worlds End take on Assassins Creed pirate theme by RCP.

Kyd will probably use a lot of ambient again instead of epicness.

zeroman reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-17 17:06:24
On facebook the composers they had listed were Jesper Kyd and Lorne Balfe. So I guess Kyd and Balfe will be working together again.

zeroman2013-05-17 17:17:25
Correction: I mean't to say Kyd & Balfe will be working on Black Flag according to facebook.

Edmund Meinerts2013-05-17 18:34:52
That's good news! Balfe's stuff is solid enough but Jesper Kyd is a more unique voice.

Everan2013-05-17 18:48:26
My fave was Revelations, loved how they worked! Looking forward for a pirate theme :D

OKKU reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-12 17:51:16

WONDERFULL! Greatjob.Thanks Lorne.....Dear All, You must listen this tracks :

-2-Ratonhnhakť Ton (2:30)
-10-Tracking The Prey (2:54)
-36-Man With The Wolf Hood (2:23)

zeroman reply Replies: 1 || 2013-03-23 05:33:11
I wonder who will be the composer for Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag. So far I haven't seen any info released on who the composer might be. I'm assuming Lorne might not be the composer for Assassins Creed 4 considering all the projects he's got going on this year....Then again I could be wrong.

Hybrid do you know if Lorne will be doing the score for Black Flag?

fabien2013-03-24 19:36:40
a fantastic score.
I would say also a dancing score sometimes. So funcky !
Love it!

Also reply Replies: 6 || 2013-03-22 06:18:35
I'd say Angels and Demons was another decent example of the level of awesome when they come together to collaborate. Almost all of the composers Edmund listed were working their asses off on A & D too.

Edmund Meinerts2013-03-22 11:08:13
Yeah, definitely another good example. :)

Of course, on the flipside you have On Stranger Tides which is a prime example of how NOT to do it...

Jimmer2013-03-22 12:22:06
Tell me again why we're arguing with this ".e.eiknl." guy who obviously knows nothing about music since he's calling Lorne the worst composer from RC? Clearly this guy is a douche and should not even be given the time of day. The end.

Macejko2013-03-22 12:22:28
Personally, I'm not quite fond of an idea of multiple composers making one score. A film/television/game soundtrack, in my opinion, should be a focused work of one single guy. And although I have nothing against Lorne Balfe personally (he is not my favourite, but he can make some decent work sometimes), I really, really hate the idea of him always having multiple projects to do (just for 2013 he has 11 (!!!) scores coming up or already released), and other RCP composers are barely struggling with two or three each year. Every other score coming from RCP these days is from Balfe. There is absolutely no justice in that.

Mike2013-03-22 19:16:32
I'm with Macejko, to some degree. If "additional" composer means a few cues here and there, I'd be alright with it. But with a lot of Hans Zimmer scores they end up doing way more than just "additional" work. Hans writes the themes and these other guys go to work to make cues. If they want to do that, they could at least say on album covers, "Music by Hans Zimmer & Remote Control Productions". But to say just "Music by Hans Zimmer" seems a little dishonest.

.e.eieknl. 2013-03-22 22:53:38
Yeah!!! The Worst!!! Composer of RC and of the World!!!!

Areozz2013-03-23 04:42:00
^^Whoops! Looks like a fiercely opinionated 13-year-old found internet access again. There's no point in arguing with this .e.eieknl because he/she/it is entitled to his his/her/its own opinion and this is an open site.

.e.eieknl. reply Replies: 8 || 2013-03-21 20:38:36
Wow! 4 Additional Composer.... Lorne Balfe the Worst Composer from Remote Control!

Mike2013-03-21 20:42:46
No way...Didn't On Stranger Tides have more than that?

Mike2013-03-21 20:51:57
Oops...Here I go, derailing the discussion to another work again.

Sorry. lol.

Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 21:19:13
Thinking in number is just plain stupid, actually.

Mike2013-03-21 21:32:14
Agreed. The number of additional composers doesn't really matter as long as they don't end up writing the whole score for the principal composer. If they're new, it gives them experience for later.

Edmund Meinerts2013-03-21 22:27:04
At World's End had something like half a dozen additional composers and look how that turned out. Each composer got to shine, too: Zanelli with the new big Calypso piece, Orvarsson with Cutler Beckett's death, Jackman with Up is Down and the wedding action cue, Balfe with some of the Beckett-related stuff like Just Good Business, Gire and Sponsler with the first part of the maelstrom battle (man, it's nice to finally hear that cue SFX-free) and of course Zimmer himself coordinating the whole thing with all those amazing themes, new and old.

To me At World's End is the ultimate example of the RC collaborative system at its very best. So much talent, so much amazing music. So don't knock a score just because of the additional composers!

Boom, topic derailed AGAIN. ;)

.e.eieknl. 2013-03-22 00:17:27

Mike2013-03-22 00:18:00
lol, Edmund

Barbarosa2222013-03-22 22:06:38
The worst? Are you deaf and blind? You just canīt see the huge amount of talent as Lorne definitely has! He is the main follower of Zimmer, he is like him in his youth... Tell me, where you can find so massive piece of emotions like in Balfeīs work? Huh? Do you know, how many movies and games he is actualy working? Many, and therefore 4 additional composers.

David reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-21 12:43:34
Wow! Is it out? Or when it will be released?

Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 12:49:11
It has "unofficially" leaked but will hit digital stores next month. I'm waiting for the release date... :)

Hybrid Soldier2013-03-21 19:15:11
It should be released on april the 23rd !

Mike2013-03-21 20:33:29
Is it just me, or are Lorne Balfe albums generally pretty long?

[This would be a good thing] :)

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-21 13:50:29
It's good to see that Insanity Wolf is getting popular :)© 2001-2017 OST 
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