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The score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.<br><br>The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).<br><br>When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.<br><br>When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.<br><br>But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.@Edmund <br>Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmer’s Superman theme, something we haven’t heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it<br>======================================<br><br>Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.
The studio is the music owner now.There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got. <br>Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.and Zimmer criticized Elfman...back and forth, etc. So what? The movie is lame, the score is about as lame as Bat V Sup@JBSO99 you're right. It's so big and widely spread.<br><br>And you're right about me forgetting those score. I just picked these three because Elfman critized Zimmer
@Iamtommie  You forgot the theme by Elliot Goldenthal for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, for not to mention the theme from the 60's TV show and all the themes for all the different animated motion pictures such as The Dark Knight Returns, Mask of the Phantasm, or the videogames like the Arkham series.<br><br>Batman's musical legacy is very big so him saying there is only one theme and his the one he created is really disrespectful to a big amount of composers.Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And that's what Elfman should have done if he wanted to use the old themes.I think what Elfman said is not true.<br>Batman has different themes for different movies because every Batman is different.<br><br>Michael Keaton as Batman: Elfman's Theme<br>Christian Bale as Batman: Hans' Theme<br>Ben Affleck as Batman: Hans & Junkie's Theme.<br>Of course much more but the most important.<br><br>Each one if dies Batman's have a different story and a different universe. I think that for each universe a new theme is the best thing you can do. With a different theme you can relate more to this Batman than a previous one.<br><br>By the way, I think TDK, MoS & WW are 3 of the top 10 themes by Zimmer. I think what Elfman did the WW theme is an abomination. He removed the key instrument in the theme because he thought it was childisch.<br><br>I think the Justce League score is way worse than previous DCEU or Batman movies. I hope that Lorne of Junkie will do future DCUE movies instead of Elfman.<br><br>(Seeing Justice League thursday. I am curious if it is really that bad as everyine says)GITS was unreleased, JXL's JL score was completely rejected. The real qustion is how many rejected scores have leaked in the history of modern film scoring?Ghost in a thing that doesn't have life but does
Which score would that be?Seeing as how Lorne Balfe “leaked” his own score, I wonder if Tom could easily do the same?Haha - honestly though, before I realized this I felt Jablonsky didn't really bind the score together that well with themes and motifs. This is a pretty cool connection and I'm glad he made it.Almost like this was a film score or something! ;)I don't suppose you have credits for this score, Hybrid?
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The Bible (TV Series)
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Length: 55'23
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  1. Faith (12:49)
  2. In The Beginning (3:47)
  3. Roma's Lament (5:31)
  4. Hope (2:22)
  5. Journey (3:18)
  6. Zedekiah's Sons (1:56)
  7. Daniel Prays (2:12)
  8. The Road To Jerusalem (2:06)
  9. Pentecost (2:16)
  10. King David (1:42)
  11. I Am (3:45)
  12. Pray For Us (1:51)
  13. Free Us, Save Us (2:28)
  14. The Nativity (4:34)
  15. Creation Choral (2:14)
  16. Rise Up In Faith (2:45)
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Jo reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-07 09:45:09
I think the soundtrack is nice enough, like a mix of prince of egypt and gladiator (mainly due to Lisa Gerrard of course). I didn't expect anything ground-breaking new of a mini-series about the Bible, tbh.
This will keep me above water til Man of steel drops ;)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-06 22:44:04
Bonus Track: /watch?v=3GQRKGiHttI&feature=youtu.be
Bravery March... Lorne Balfe tweet it!

Hale reply Replies: 2 || 2013-03-05 19:26:21
After a first listening of the score, I am mitigated. We really have the feeling to listen to a score 100 % " Lorne Balfe ". Not that I don't appreciate the talents of the second of Zimmer, but I believe that it will be necessary to wait for " Man of Steel " to have a really personal work of Zimmer.

The album is in any case very pleasant to listen to, mesmerizing, and which arouses a certain nostalgia listening the voice of Lisa Gerrard, always so magnificent.

"Faith" remains the cornerstone of the album because it really puts the orientation taken by the accomplices during the putting in music of this series: a purely dramatic style with ethnic tones.

I note that "In the Beginning" shares many notes with "Terminator" main theme! Weird...
It will not prevent it from becoming, in my opinion, the most popular track of the album thanks to its epic and majestic side. Furthermore, it is, I think, the track which sounds most "Zimmer" on this album (even if Hybrid Soldier will doubtless say to me that it is the 100 % Balfe ;-)).

The tracks which I shall associate then are "Roma's Lament" (theme without Lisa) and "The Nativity" (Theme with Lisa) and who calls back to what extent the album is very done made (10 tracks separate them).
Moreover, in "The Nativity", we can wait for madam Gerrard's best contribution. It is also the track which we could listen in one of the trailers.

Many tracks are more atmospheric moments, other side very representative of the album. It will be necessary to wait to listen to the soundtrack entirely to see if Zimmer&Cie didn't sacrifice more crunchy cues.


To conclude, this new album of Zimmer (And Balfe or the opposite:)) arrive appointed where we didn't really wait for it. Being focused on "Man of Steel", I had personally darkened it and the result is very promising.
An album maybe less catchy because of its less memorable themes and its orchestrations sometimes a little bit lazy.

Nevertheless, it is with the guilty pleasure that I found one more time this association " Zimmer-Balfe " which, even if sometimes uneven always rests an interesting moment. He holds this flavor which makes that in my opinion, we can listen to it longer.

Whaaooo! I managed to speak about a score of Zimmer without quoting Gladiator, Da Vinci, the prince of Egypt, pearl to harbor, the red line (shit, mischief managed! :D). You will understand well the influences (or rather the resemblances) emanating from this score. I shall add a resemblance with "The Passion of the Christ" (or then it is the subject which disturbs my judgment).

To finish, buy it and listen it while waiting for "Complete" which I hope will be born!

Note-3,5 / 5

Ps- Sorry for my indistinct English.






JamesT2013-03-06 04:29:05
In reading all that is here, I must admit the criticisms of Hans and Lorne are quite strong, and I'm not certain as to why. It seems like if the output is not some bombastic output, or if his (Hans') work is not singular, it's a disappointment. What gives? I personally think this is a wonderful, inspired and spirited work. Seems like the quotient for Hans has been set unreasonably high. This score is the eventual outcome of a terrific collabation between Hans, Lorne, and Lisa, written to underscore a profound religious film. It fits the series perfectly, so far. For those that "expected more", what does that mean? There are themes, variety, collaboration, structure, and a musical spirit that connects to the religious aspects -- who said it must be overtly precise.....rather, quite profound in just about every place so far, simple in others, and overall, the just right match to the scripture it was meant to support.

Hans (and Lorne, by extension in this example) has an evolving style. Everyone was slobbering over TDKR. This is just as excellent -- shame the score on CD is only a small representation of the larger work. Certain if that was available, the critics would be at bay.


Hale2013-03-06 13:37:12
Yes, this is a wonderful, inspired and spirited work, like you said.
I believe that it is really necessary to look at the series to be made an objective opinion.
In spite of the negative points, warning, this score remains a success. Indeed, there are themes (not rather memorable in my humble opinion but appropriated by the way).

To finish, last two minutes of the track "Faith" are simply fabulous!!!

Only for that, the score deserves to be listened to!


theeaglesfan005 reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-05 05:33:30
just downloaded this off iTunes and the times posted here are wrong

1. Faith (12:49)
2. In The Beginning (3:47)
3. Roma's Lament (5:31)
4. Hope (2:22)
5. Journey (3:18)
6. Zedekiah's Son (1:56)
7. Daniel Prays (2:12)
8. The Road to Jerusalem (2:06)
9. Pentecost (2:16)
10. King David (1:42)
11. I Am (3:45)
12. Pray For Us (1:51)
13. Free Us, Save Us (2:28)
14. The Nativity (4:34)
15. Creation Choral (2:14)
16. Rise Up In Faith (2:45)

Length: 55:23


Anonymous2013-03-05 07:05:01
Maybe somebody had previously forgotten to eliminate those lengthy silences from the beginning and end of the cues?


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-05 08:35:11
Yeah I think so I was probably given the length of a pre-master version or something... :P


Anonymous2013-03-05 11:10:58
What a disappointment. I expected so much of this. Hans Zimmer, Lisa Gerard, Lorne Balfe, epic story material, lyrical writing...

What I expected was an album full of tracks like cue 15. But unfortunately most of the album is atmospheric filler and no action material. I've should have known if Hans is involved all cool action music is scrapped, are bonus tracks or end up in an app instead of the album...

Lutz reply Replies: 23 || 2013-02-28 17:33:46
www.youtube.com/watch?v=urR8muDTkD0
The Bible Series Soundtrack - Faith


al bundy2013-02-28 21:32:11
at 0:30 you can hear the score of TDKR part of "deshi basara" :o


Mike2013-03-01 00:16:36
Ha, I didn't even notice that.


tim2013-03-01 10:07:10
while i'm liking the direction of the score, that it goes more into that emotional epic sound and they're moving a bit again into the beautiful and typical rcp sound, i have to say, that this track is so uninspired. they're trying to build up emotions and beautiness in that track, but there's no structure, no melody, nothing at all in it. everything sounds so randomly...

please don't get me wrong, i already said, in fact i'm liking what i'm hearing, but this could have been soooo much better then what we got. because of that what i said, that there is no structure or melody in it. it sounds more like lorne has done this, and having had only 5 minutes to do something "epic".

with zimmer, balfe and lisa, i've expected at least some more elaborated cues...


Mike2013-03-01 10:17:34
I don't really expect too much elaborate stuff from Zimmer these days. He's not really into that anymore, it seems.


Macejko2013-03-01 10:39:00
I completely, completely, completely agree with you, tim. Twelve minutes of nothing, basically.


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-01 11:23:32
I think on the contrary it's a good balance with, say, an overstructured score like Sherlock.


Then again, it's just 13 minutes of HOURS of music written for the show. And from clips we heard, it has more "defined" themes & cues.

I just fear the OST will lack the action material and focuse on the more spiritual material. We'll see !

But I really like that suite, even if it's not built like Moriarty, Bane or the Gladiator Waltz... ;)


tim2013-03-01 11:37:21
@ hybrid: if "faith" is one of the less interesting cues of the whole score, then i can live with that :D

but still very sad to hear the final result of the cue, as it has such a high potential to be a masterpiece cue. it began very epic, but that's it ^^ followed by random notes, which are getting louder and louder.

as much as i love lornes work, he's a huge talent and hope to hear from him more in the future, i think hans is letting him doing TOO much of his own work. lorne still needs that "little bit" that gives a cue a recognition or a melody you can remember of. his work always sounds to me like being only half ready. i can feel how he wants to put so much love and so many ideas in a cue, but in the end, there's not much to be find sadly. but i still have hope that his lump is being cracked...

and as for hans, for gods sake, do your music alone. i'm missing the times where i've been shocked by the beautiness of your music. it's been just too long now since the last score, which wowed me away :/


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-01 12:02:44
@tim: Asking Hans Zimmer to do his music alone is like asking James Horner not to rip bits out of his older scores, or like asking John Williams not to use a crapload of brass fanfares. It isn't going to happen...in fact, the last time it happened was probably the early 90s. Sorry. ;)

Then again, I agree with your sentiments on Lorne Balfe, who has yet to write the one score that proves beyond a doubt his full talent. Maybe if he wasn't so busy writing half of Zimmer's scores he'd have more time to focus on his solo projects (seriously, does the man sleep?). And, I also agree with your sentiments on Zimmer himself...the last time I was TRULY amazed by a score of his was Angels & Demons.


tim2013-03-01 12:09:42
@ edmund: ha, yes i'm aware that zimmer is using a LOT of proteges who are writing for him etc. but still, his "older" scores had that sound which gave you the feeling, that at least the themes and melodies are from zimmer himself. nowadays, every score doesn't sound anymore if zimmer is really involved in these scores, but only others - not even anymore any themes at all etc.

i'm agreeing with you, if lorne would have taken his time for his solo-projects, then he could grew out of his role i think. but still, hearing all the new zimmer scores, gives me the feeling i'm hearing lorne all the way and not zimmer at all, so zimmers score ARE lornes solo projects ;P


Hybrid Soldier2013-03-01 12:57:03
On the contrary, HZ is much more involved since Begins than he was after Thin Red Line... ;)


And Lorne has tons of solo projects, just check his filmography on this very site !


Miklós2013-03-01 13:04:18
I partially agree with you that there is not a really theme in it. However the music is beautiful. Just like faith itself: It's not concrete (like a theme) but it's miraculous at the same time. So I think the music perfectly reflects to the topic. And that's the key thing, this is film music after all.


milo2013-03-01 20:37:21
I'll be honest here, as an avid Zimmer, I find it difficult to get into these new pieces. The rush track seemed pretty lazy as well.


milo2013-03-01 20:37:55
Zimmer fan*


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-01 23:44:10
@Hybrid: I know Lorne has a lot of solo projects...hence why I said he ought to FOCUS on them rather than having to do so much legwork for Zimmer! And also why I asked whether the man ever sleeps...last year he did (if I'm not missing anything) The Sweeney, Assassin's Creed 3, Skylanders: Giants and significant amounts of additional music (co-composition, really) for The Dark Knight Rises and Madagascar 3 (for the latter one I'd risk saying he probably did more than Hans himself, though that's just a hunch). That's a ridiculous amount of work for one guy to do! And I'm not saying any of it was bad, but I'd rather have him devote more time to perfecting his solo works and have Zimmer go it alone for once...despite it never going to happen.


Mike2013-03-02 03:25:59
If it's any consolation, Edmund, I don't think Lorne worked on Man of Steel... :P


Stygian2013-03-02 05:46:40
@Al Bundy: yeah. i was the one who pointed that out. check the comments.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-02 21:27:01
@Mike: No...but I know that Atli Orvarsson is for certain (serves him right after his laughably weak Hansel and Gretel score!), and probably some others too. But damn, how long has it been since the last Zimmer score with NO Balfe involvement? Da Vinci Code or something?


piotr2013-03-04 15:15:35
Samples from "The Bible"

amazon.com/The-Bible-OST/dp/B00BO2WD6W


Deakins2013-03-04 18:06:00
The end of "Faith" (11:00 to end) is is really magnificent!
Sounds like Thin Red Line/Pearl Harbor/Da Vinci big drama cues with a small of pinch of Lisa Gerrard ! Splendid...



Elegy 2013-03-04 19:26:32
And a cool making of video showing Hans and Lisa in the studio:

youtube.com/watch?v=j_whu_hebnE


Evenstar2013-03-04 21:03:19
Thanks Elegy! Too bad it's so short.


Mike2013-03-04 23:17:22
I believe Hans incessantly lets Lorne do stuff because, as he said once, he "wants everyone to know Lorne Balfe is a good composer"...

That's all well and good, but if Lorne is gonna be doing half of Hans' projects like TDKR, he should get co-composer credit (not just "additional music"). I'd say the same about Geoff Zanelli for the Pirates movies.


Jonathan Rochat2013-03-04 23:44:41
First and last tracks are good ("Roma's Lament", "Nativity", "Creation Choral"). The rest is boring. Better than last Zimmer's work, but far far from "Da Vinci" or "Prince of Egypt"...

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-04 22:58:32
The people who were disappointed by the 1st track should listen to "In The Beginning". Epic and emotional!

Jonathan Rochat reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-04 17:49:36
Just received it, I will start to listen but I'm a bit afraid...
Zimmer of 6-7 years ago, please come back...

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-04 14:13:23
It kind of pisses me off that Lorne Balfe has always gazillion projects to do, but other composers of RCP have merely two or three every year. Where is the justice in that? How does this system even work?

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-02-27 20:47:08
It´s... PERFECT!
/watch?v=urR8muDTkD0&feature=player_embedded


Mike2013-02-27 23:09:47
I like it a lot! Though I must say, it reminds me of Curse of the Black Pearl, lol.


JamesT2013-02-28 06:20:32
This is breathtaking! Very spiritual. WONDERFUL STUFF!!!


HZfan2013-02-28 12:48:31
the link doesnt work for me.

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2013-02-27 21:01:30
Great!

Jester reply Replies: 0 || 2013-02-27 15:51:49
Cant Wait!! :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2013-02-26 23:31:10
That date. Is that 3rd of may or 5th of March?


cikilein2013-02-26 23:37:33
5th march

OKKU reply Replies: 1 || 2013-02-23 11:53:08
Listen mp3 or youtube any...


lilly2013-02-23 17:38:21
what?

Mikel SiW (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 10 || 2013-02-16 17:19:40
I cant wait for this *__* WoW!!!


Mikel SiW (a fan from Spain)2013-02-16 17:27:37
... and the tracklist is sublime!


Ds2013-02-16 20:44:18
The track names are beautiful... i just hope the track lengths are beautiful too :D


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-16 20:53:21
The OST is 60 min long.


Ds2013-02-17 00:17:36
Yeeah! As usual you seem very well informed, Hybrid! If you know something about how it's going to sound, we'll be glad to hear it :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-17 00:18:30
Go to the series official website. There are a couple of clips having cues... The trailer uses score cues too... :)


Ds2013-02-17 12:53:40
Zimmer seems to be back with epic & lyrical stuff. Sounds good!
/watch?v=Wir4fH6hUxw&list=UUt_Q-xP9pUFpalCF-e_ZhtA&index=5


Stygian2013-02-19 03:43:49
i'm an atheist. this had better be good.


Mike2013-02-19 03:51:01
I'm sure it will be good...


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-21 00:08:15
I updated the official tracklist & lengths... :)


Blu2013-02-21 11:38:11
A 13-minute-long cue? I guess HZ was also involved with the album compilation process. This is a good sign.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2013-02-15 18:59:55
Yeah that should be interesting... :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-15 20:45:17
BTW there's a little problem with the cover. Lisa didn't write anything, she's a vocal performer. They'll probably update it removing her, or changing the credit.

And about how that score was done, it's really co-work between Hans & Lorne, writing themes & pieces together. Not a split work.


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-17 00:14:51
Cover updated... They didn't lose time ! :P

Larry250 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-02-16 16:37:01
This is awesome, Hans Zimmer composing my favorite books of all time! Can't wait for the series to come out, and for the soundtrack release!

Phil reply Replies: 0 || 2013-02-15 22:44:31
Wooow! I'm so excited!!!!

Adriaan reply Replies: 0 || 2013-02-15 19:33:07
More than interesting, this is really awesome!! :)

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