Music Composed by Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe Soloist Lisa Gerrard Score Produced by Lorne Balfe, Hans Zimmer & Steven Kofsky Music Production Services Steven Kofsky Music Production Coordinator Kelly Johnson Music Editors Jessica Weiss & Rodney Berling
Additional Arrangements Jasha Klebe, Steve Mazzaro, Dave Fleming, Satnam Ramgotra, Gary Dworetsky, Andrew Christie & Max Aruj Technical Assistant Nathan Stornetta Score Preparation Andrew Christie Recording Engineer Satoshi Noguchi Digital Instrument Design Mark Wherry Music Recorded & Mixed at Remote Control Productions Studio Manager Czarina Russell
Mark Burnett & Roma Downey would like to thank: Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Lisa Gerrard, Steven Kofsky, Max Aruj, John Kilcullen, Jess Weiss, Kelly Johnson, Richard Bedser, Rob Hall, Alex Marengo, Annie MacNee, Michael Waterhouse, Crispin Reece, Tony Mitchell, Christopher Spencer, Mishy Turner & Randy Sollenbeger, The entire Bible Team, Remote Controle Productions, Downtown Records, Reilly, James & Cameron
Hans Zimmer would like to thank: Mark Burnett & Roma Downey, Lisa Gerrard, Lorne Balfe, Bonnie Abaunza, Tiffany Bordenave, Chuck Choi Ariel Emanuel, Max Golfar, Andrew Kawczynski, Steven Kofsky, Christina Mansky, Amos Newman, Satoshi Noguchi, Czarina Russell, Shalini Singh, Chris Strong, Brian Wherry, Mark Wherry, Suzanne Zimmer & The Mini Z's & Zoe Zimmer
Lorne Balfe would like to thank:
Hans Zimmer, Mark Burnett & Roma Downey, Lisa Gerrard, Steven Kofsky, Rob Hall, Richard Bedser, Rodney Berling, Alex Marengo, Michelle "Mishy" Turner, Bradley Rainey Darrell Alexander & Christopher Gutch at Cool Music Ltd, Max Aruj, Andrew Christie, Gary Dworetsky, Kelly Johnson, Nathan Stornetta, Jess Weiss, Fraser Murray, Emily Bremner, Donald Sinclair, Nina Poulsson, & David & Eva Balfe
Release date : 03/05/2013
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I know we'll never figure this out clearly but if I had to guess I'd say Faith, In the Beginning, and Roma's Lament were the ones where Zimmer had a big role, and then the rest of the score is Balfe/the other arrangers. What do you guys think? Faith definitely has a Journey to the Line vibe, and then In the Beginning sounds like the Marry Me suite from POTC3, and then he posted the nativity scene (which has the same theme from Roma's Lament) on Facebook when this score first came out (implying he worked on that). What do you guys think?
Of course I think Lorne was involved with those three tracks WITH Hans... :)
Don't Forget "Creation Choral" That one is the main bible theme.
Yeah true but it's just the theme from In the Beginning in powerhouse form...I always figured it was a Lorne arrangement of that theme, but idk. :)
It's very hard to distinguish between Hans and Lorne Balfe. He works so much with Hans he sounds quite a lot Zimmer-y to me.
He was undercredited in Inception and Megamind, and I believe he did a lot here too. (I would like to know how much).
I think "In the Beginning" is a lot more Zimmer than Balfe too, but we can't be sure. It might turn out that this one and Faith are the only ones Zimmer didn't touch! lol.
No, I agree with RealFfingMusic: In the Beginning definitely sounds like it's mostly Zimmer. Same with the first couple minutes of Faith, as it slowly builds.
Yep.. feature movie next year in theatres sonofgodmovie.com/index.html
Well the Bible theme is playing on the website so perhaps...
On IMDB Lorne is credited, not zimmer...
With what writing the score?
With what writing the score?
According to IMDB Lorne will score "Son of God" himself, without Zimmer.
Ok...I was thinking that you were saying Balfe Scored the Bible soundtrack. I was gonna say.most of the Bible score was Zimmer. :)
Hybrid, would you please clear this up? Is it not true that Lorne did most, or at least a good half, of this score, and that it is *not* mostly Zimmer?
Of course Lorne did most of it...
HZ's words on it : "...And yes, Lorne out-did himself on this one! Great, great work by him."
I guess that says it all, nope ?
Thank you, sir!
Ok...But still The Director's did say that Zimmer's score was essential, and that's not the AP that's the Director's saying that. But I will say that Balfe did have have a good deal in the score as Hybrid said
The Beyond: Two Souls creators also said how great it was that HANS ZIMMER did that score, but we both know he did not. Hans' name gives publicity and directors know that, so even if he just did a bit, they'll make it sound like he had a huge hand in it.
Sorry about saying most if your thinking that I mean Zimmer did like 90% of this score I know that he didn't But I will say that he did about half if not 60% of this simply because the Director's sat in on the some Scoring session. From what I gather from beyond two souls the creator's did not.
One other thing about this score Zimmer is listed as a Composer and not a producer as he is in beyond two souls
60%? More like 25%. If that. Zimmer does a lot less than you seem to think he does, Mac.
Where do you get that info that he did only 25%?
I'll give half the credit to Balfe. but I'll bet Zimmer did more than you guys give him credit for.
It's just that scores credited to Zimmer and Balfe are almost invariably more the latter than the former. We had that with MW2, we had that with Megamind, we had that with The Dilemma. Not quite as sure about Crysis 2 but there's so little RCP music in that one that it's hard to tell.
In the case of The Bible it's also more of a gut feeling. Most of the score just seems to sound more Balfey to me than Zimmerish. "Faith" is really the only cue that strikes me as really having a lot of Zimmer vibe. Maybe he also had a hand in writing the themes but I'm willing to bet Balfe was the one who did the actual cues, which counts more in my book. Put that together with what we know about previous "Zimmer/Balfe" scores and I have a fairly strong inclination that Balfe did most of the legwork. And what Hybrid said just above me in this thread doesn't exactly disprove my gut feeling, does it.
I'd be glad to find out more about what happened here, but until then, it's "Balfe until proven Zimmer" for me. :p
Ok...To each his own, And I understand that. MW2 was Mostly Balfe looking at some sources.
Megamind I did not know about. Funny cause a few cues in that like "black mamba" Rejection in the rain and Melan-choly sound like Zimmer to me
For this one in terms of a gut feeling I get what you are saying here what sounds like Zimmer to me.
"Faith" "In The Beginning" "Roma's Lament" The next four are so bland and repetitive hence Balfe, Also occurs in MW2 several times where the music get old.
But I get the feeling 12-16 are Zimmer even "I Am" is Zimmer.
That's My Gut Feeling. :)
Honestly, I feel like a lot of times it's not easy to tell what's Balfe and what's Zimmer when both names are on the cover. Balfe does so much ghostwriting and arranging for Zimmer that he really sounds like Zimmer (unless a score is JUST Lorne Balfe without Zimmer's name attached in any way, in which case you can usually tell a difference). In MW2, if I were told that all of it was Zimmer, I'd believe it. I mean, yes, Zimmer has a distinct sound, but a lot of the time it's more blurry than you seem to think (when you say things like "This sounds like Zimmer to me"--it all kinda sounds like Zimmer!). And to say that something bland and repetitive must be Lorne Balfe is unreasonable. Also, there's a lot of music in MW2's complete score. I wouldn't call it "repetitive". Each mission has a new feel to its music, generally. Though I will admit the "Extraction Point" theme was a little overused in the Washington DC portions of the game.
...and my apologies if that seemed overly harsh. Wasn't meant to. :P
No biggy Understand.
To Me in MW2 Around track 6 though 12 or 13 it all sounds the same. But the Game Experience is preety cool.
Is it fair to say Lorne Balfe was the primary composer here?
I think so. Considering it only says "Composer: Main Theme" next to Zimmer's name up there...I wouldn't be surprised if "Faith" was a largely Zimmer cue and the rest could be chalked up to Balfe, but that's purely guesswork on my part. The man in the green text probably will know better than I.
Hybrid, wonder if you could answer this:
So, a score like the Bible or Call of Duty MWFII says Hans Zimmer composer/main theme, Lorne Balfe composer, when I'm sure Lorne uses a majority of Zimmer's themes for the final score, then plays around with them for the cues. BUT then (as i've concluded from many comments on this site) a very similar thing happens on scores like Dark Knight Rises and Sherlock Holmes, yet only Zimmer is credited. Doesn't seem fair or Lorne?
Is this because of legal contract issues? or is there other reasons????
As much as I enjoy leisurely listening to the scores or Hans and RCP, I feel as if it's completely ruining the way film scores are made. It's no longer 1 composer spending hours and committing their life to the art, it's become a 'pop' album, where the credited person does basic work on themes and ideas, but then gives it to a million other people to 'do the work for them."
I'm all for collaboration, but this is completely ruining the art of film music.
I can answer that one, Anon. With The Dark Knight Rises, pretty much ALL the music comes from one of two sources: the suites Hans wrote for the movie or from the scores of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight (also by Hans). And even though Lorne arranged a whole lot of cues for the film, they're hardly changed from the way Hans wrote them, so you're truly listening to Hans Zimmer when you watch the film.
With Modern Warfare 2, Hans only wrote ONE piece, the Opening Titles. The other pieces are not only arranged by Lorne (as in TDKR) but COMPOSED BY Lorne (something not the case in TDKR).
While TDKR can truly be called a Hans score, however, I do understand the question with regards to Inception (which I mentioned on that page), where Lorne not only arranged the score as heard in the film but wrote a couple themes himself (Fischer's theme, Kick It Suite, and possibly even Saito's theme). In that case I would say he should be given credit as a co-composer.
@ Edmund. LOL, I like that. Get ready, guys, cause He is coming back. This Syria thing is worrying me...
Zimmer actually did most of Inception
Not really, MacArthur...
I put the Track listings ion the Dark Knight Rises Zimmer Did Help with the Balfe Themes and He was Credited with the Oscar and if there are to many composers hollywood won't nominate a score That's why The Dark Knight didn't get nominated
Any possibility of Recording Sessions with this? The variations and hours of additional, unreleased material are just magnificent! Hoping so!
So here's what I have heard and think Hans Zimmer did in terms of this score.
1. Faith (Hans Zimmer) Contains Theme 2. In The Beginning (Hans Zimmer) Main Theme 3. Roma's Lament (Hans Zimmer) Main Theme 11. I Am (Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe) Contains Theme 13. Free Us, Save Us. (Hans Zimmer) 14. The Nativity (Hans Zimmer) Theme 15. Creation Choral (Hans Zimmer) Theme 16. Rise Up in Faith (Hans Zimmer) Theme
I gather that Zimmer did More than just the main theme simply because the director and producers were commenting on his score and other interviews Hans was asked how he did the score. so in my opinion Hans did more than just the Main theme.
And also on the CD it says that he did more than just the theme and had more involvement in it than just that. now Balfe did a lot of the score and I'm Talking like 50% of it while Hans did about 40% And 10% The Additional Composers.
You have a point, my friend. Why would the series' crew say so much about Zimmer's music if he only did a theme?
I would also imagine Hans did "Marry Me"...Oh, I'm sorry, I meant "In the Beginning". ;)
I Don't Get it
I would Imagine That He Did at least 55%
I said the Marry Me thing because "In the Beginning" sounds intensely reminiscent of Hans Zimmer's suite "Marry Me" from At World's End.
Really? I thought it sounded more like the Terminator theme. Which is hilarious.
Lorne did the majority of it, while Zimmer did the main themes.
What is the main theme because faith didn't sound like a theme more a opening to the series. The main theme I thought was in creation choral, nativity, in the beginning, and Roma's Lament. those sounded like the main themes.
'In The Beginning' could serve as an intro theme, as it resembles The Chorale, but there was no single intro theme used to open the series. They always varied based on 'Previously On The Bible'.
'In The Beginning' did open the series...
Stop scratching your heads, the themes are co-written by Hans & Lorne...
Just a little offtopic - does anyone know something about Lorne's/RCP involvement in Fast & Furious 6? There's a bunch of RCP credits (Lorne Balfe as technical assistant, Gavin Greenaway as conductor) in end titles of the movie + the whole score sounds quite "RCP-ish" in some places (it even features a few samples from the RCP sample library). Thanks! :)
Vidal is quite linked to RCP indeed. Bruce Fowler orchestrated some of his movies.
Lorne "technical assistant" ? You sure ? No way, he wouldn't lose time on a film like that as tech assistant. Music consultant why not. This just looks like a credit to hide his true role. I'll do a little enquiry about that... :P
Thank you! :) I'm actually not really that sure about Lorne's specific credit (it could be "musical consultant") - but I'm sure it isn't "additional music".
I'm curious about the situation with this one, because it sounded like one of those "complicated scores" (and I don't mean a bad score - just a last minute rewrite, or something like that - the score itself is actually quite enjoyable). It borrows heavily from Brian Tyler's material for last two movies (mainly Letty's and the "family" theme) and it also features quite a few temp-track inspired cues (Mombasa, Time), but of course that's not a fault of a composer. :)
I heard somewhere that Vidal now works in HGW's old studio, is that true?
Also, more to the point, is the score from FF6 going to get a release? The movie's already out and I haven't heard anything, which is making me a little nervous. I really like Vidal's scores (Cold Light of Day was excellent) and this is his biggest movie yet so I'm interested to hear it, especially if he actually keeps continuity with Tyler's themes. A different composer keeping the previous themes? I must be dreaming!
Lorne confirmed to me he did some consulting on it. Just some advice to Vidal... :)
And yeah, I watched the film this morning, lots of RCP samples used indeed !
Thanks Hybrid! :) Yeah, lots of samples, but sadly there weren't any RCP-sampled french horns. Those are always epic... :-)
Thank God! If there's one thing that bugs me it's synth horns. I don't mind electronics if they can add to the orchestra, but I'd prefer them not to replace it.
For me it depends on the style of the score - they would bug me in more "lyrical" scores (like Da Vinci Code, PotC 3), but they are great when it comes to the sheer force. :)
In the Beginning is amazing! It's like a perfect mix of the love theme from POTC3 and the Da Vinci Code.
It is. I haven't seen the series, but I imagine judging by the track title that "I Am" plays during Moses' encounter with God in the Burning Bush. So I wonder how Hans felt having to score that a second time (the first time being "The Burning Bush" from "The Prince of Egypt").
Though perhaps this one was referring to the words Christ in John 8...But that seems unlikely.
Although not as good as either of those two things, plus the melody reminds me of Terminator somehow.
1 - In The Beginning (3:10) 2 - Belive Me (0:53) 3 - Hard Work (1:11) 4 - Faith (9:43) 5 - Sodom Down (7:32) 6 - Your Brother, Aran (2:32) 7 - Angel Of Death (0:35) 8 - "Let My People Go" (3:21) 9 - 10 Plagues Ahead (4:07) 10 - Death See Awakening (6:32) 11 - The Bravery Of My People (0:50) 12 - Joshua (4:49) 13 - "The Strength Is Not From Me" (1:57) 14 - Anointed (0:28) 15 - Journey (3:18) 16 - Zedekiah's Sons (1:55) 17 - Daniel Prays (5:53) 18 - We Won't Worship That! (3:43) 19 - Promised Land (2:50) 20 - A New King Will Rise (1:58) 21 - The Nativity (4:33) 22 - "Baptize Me, John!" (0:59) 23 - The Sea of ​​Galilee (3:56) 24 - You Sinners (2:20) 25 - Walking On Water (1:43) 26 - The Temple in Jerusalem (5:45) 27 - The Last Meal (4:42) 28 - Betrayal (1:56) 29 - Carrying The Cross (4:01) 30 - "You Will Be With Me In Paradise" (3:42) 31 - Persecution, Unexpected (6:54) 32 - "Who? Saul?" (2:56) 33 - Pentecost (2:15) 34 - Remain in the way (1:10) 35 - Opening (Alt. 1) (2:39) 36 - Opening (Alt. 2) (2:37) 37 - Opening (Final) (2:40) 38 - End credits (edited version) (0:46) 39 - End credits (final version) (0:59)
Highly doubt there's "only" 2 hours of music for a 7+ hour show. But I haven't seen it, so maybe there's not much music in it !(?)
@Per, maybe true, but there were a lot of places where the same music was tracked, looped and edited, as we witnessed in SURVIVOR, care of Landau's library music. The validity of this is so so, but the spelling mistakes worry me a little. I hope these are not fanmade titles...
Any info if this is a DVD-rip? Indeed there are a lot of scenes where the same music was tracked, but there is still a lot of great music in the series that has not been released yet, some great choral and orchestral passages and some nice variations of existing themes, so I do hope this is indeed real. The "Carrying The Cross" cue and the choral piece when Paul gets arrested in the end (also plays in the court of Pharaoh with Moses earlier on) are the ones I really wish were released.
@Bioscope: Spelling doesn't mean illegitimacy. On the cue list for Empire Strikes Back, John Williams consistently misspelled "Vader" as "Vadar". :P
Here who claims this is the complete score for you know 'Pentecost' film version is not 2'15.. this is the album version...
The use of "Faith" on screen is fantastic (Crucifixion scene)... :)
I'll have to watch this series. :)
I'm loving this score and some of the great variations of the themes throughout the series. What's the possibility more score will be released?
at Lorne Balfe's Youtube-Site exist more tracks from the serie
Great, Beautiful, Literally god music from Hans :) EPIC, best historic series i've ever seen. The last scene made me cry altought i am an atheist :)
Both my wife and I cried when we watched the scene, and I listened to the score underneath. I only now appreciate what this man went through for me, someone he had never even met as a human walking on Earth. Beautiful and wise that FAITH was also used with dread overlays for the Abraham and Isaac sequence. (Sacrificing your own son.
The most poigniant sequence since THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST as would be allowed for television viewing...
Our souls need a complete recording sessions. Terrific mini-series and divine score!!! The official album is also fantastic. I love this masterpiece *__* cheers
That would be awesome. It shouldn't be hard, as Lorne himself is lately so generous with his own material. SWEENEY and RESTLESS both offer legal complete scores, so why not THE BIBLE? It seems it is up to Hans Zimmer's views regarding his contributions...
Also, it feels like this score was done with sampled orchestra and live players, so the re-use should be minimal.
@Bryan: I TOTALLY agree! This score is very well done and anyone who says otherwise is ignorant at recognizing a great piece of work. It's like a mix of Da Vinci Code and Gladiator. Good mix.
I do not think I'm a ignorant. I heard more than 200 works of Hans Zimmer, and I would like to say that this one is Ok, but a disappointment in regards of what Zimmer has done many years before. The musical structure and the themes are not very original, i was expecting more, sorry.
On a "Faith" theme, I prefer to come back to the "Prince of Egypt" 15 years before...
So anyone who disagrees with you, Jimmer, is ignorant and incapable of recognizing "true art"? As Chandler would say, could you BE any more arrogant? :/
And @Jonathan...are there even 200 works of Hans Zimmer out there? Unless you're counting individual cues...
@ Edmund: Yes 200 is a bit exaggerated ;) 155 different works counting one track work such that "Who are the Roma?" Officially this is around 130 soundtracks for movies. More than 200 is with complete release...
Ah, gotcha. I don't tend to count completes and OSTs of the same movie as two different "works", so my count is somewhere around a hundred. Of course, it's hard to know whether to include something like Crysis 2 or Megamind where HZ only contributed a theme or some additional music.
this is masterpiece! one of the best work from hans and lorne in last years, who doesnt hear in this massive huge epic melodies is probably deaf...
Of course, if we do not count score like the one you mentioned, I'm not sure we will reach 40 or 50 by hans himself... ;) This is not a surprise to see that Hans is one the composer with the most credited film music comparing to the majority. But yes, maybe the half has not been written by him.
Personally, one of the last time I put more than **** stars to a Zimmer's score was back to 2006 with the Da Vinci Code , which seems to be one of the last real Zimmer score, a sign? ;)
And then you're getting about Da Vinci... But as usual you have no clue about how things are going on ! Just "I think" !
Well this is not the very large list of all people that are working on a Zimmer's soundtrack since 2006 that tends to think the opposite in fact. :D
I really enjoy Zimmer in general, but the last years were in my opinion the worst of his career, even if there were sometimes very good moments. Just a thought.
But "the Bible" is finally quite good, juste not very original. I still expect a lot for "Man of Steel" :D
It astounds me how synthy and cheap the whole thing sounds. Honestly, how does Hans Zimmer - the most popular, famous and probably rich composer working in Hollywood these days - always end up with scores that sound like the demos rather than the real thing? Comparing the brass samples from Black Rain and Days of Thunder to those you hear in his work today, there's hardly a difference despite 20-25 years of progress. They still sound tinny and laser-beam-like, and it's really annoying. I wish he'd go back to the more organic sound we heard in At World's End.
That aside, The Bible is rather a nice score, nothing special or memorable but easy to listen to.
I agree: it's a nice listen, but it isn't astounding, and I'm sure it serves its purpose in the series greatly.
I also could not agree more with the At World's End thing and sound quality. Perfectly said.
I think the soundtrack is nice enough, like a mix of prince of egypt and gladiator (mainly due to Lisa Gerrard of course). I didn't expect anything ground-breaking new of a mini-series about the Bible, tbh. This will keep me above water til Man of steel drops ;)