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Edmund - given the rationality you've displayed in your comments, I'm disappointed Goldsmith isn't in your top three. ;)<br><br>In all seriousness, I'd put money on Powell fucking nailing the integration of Williams's theme. While Giacchino did a solid job on Jurassic World and Rogue One (I tend to think my assessment of the latter is a bit more positive than most), frankly I just think Powell is a far better composer - a genuine A-level guy, whereas Giacchino is moreso very competent without that spark of pure talent seen in Williams, Goldsmith, Elfman, Zimmer etcI think it's worth noting that Zimmer's popularity at this point is largely under his direct control - meaning that if he were to decide to stop touring, go back to writing full-time, and return to his 'epic' thematic style, I think we'd see a surge in his popularity of the sort we saw from Batman Begins through til Interstellar. However, I just don't think he's interested, which is totally his right.<br><br>I certainly agree that the RCP proteges at this point are, frankly, shit compared to how they used to be. I mean, even a guy like Steve Mazzaro (who I genuinely like and who wrote some of the coolest cues in Chappie, and basically co-wrote BvS - a score I actually like) just utterly pales in comparison to the Powell era.<br><br>Actually, I have to take that back a bit; Wallfisch is a very, very talented guy, honestly so much better than someone like Junkie that I weirdly tend to forget he's under the RCP roof now.@HunterTech<br><br>"I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world."<br><br>Exactly. Hans, for all the criticism he gets (much of it for good reason), has written some of the best film music of all time (seriously, having listened to huge amounts of Williams and Goldsmith, I still find Science & Religion my favorite cue ever). On the other hand, Lorne has written innumerable adequate-to-good scores, but none that I can recall are iconic. I'd say the closest he's come is in the form of his contributions to some of Zimmer's work (personally, I think his Kick It theme is the most interesting of those in Inception), but even then he hasn't done anything as memorable as Djawadi's theme from Batman Begins.Michael - reread the second half of my previous comment. And no, I don't think Genius or Churchill are no good; I wasn't impressed by the second, to be honest, but Genius is really cool - like an updated version of Frost/Nixon, one of my very favorite Zimmer/RCP scores.<br><br>Edmund - much appreciated.<br><br>Overall, I too am baffled by many of these comments; clearly there is a middle ground between "Lorne is shit." and "Lorne is absolutely amazing.", but this seems to be missed.<br><br>And by the way, I'm actually super happy for Lorne's success - I think he deserves it given the quality and quantity of his work, and he seems like a super nice guy to boot (how many composers regularly respond to people on Facebook?). However, this doesn't mean I can't simultaneously point out the fact that much of his work is very, very similar to work he's done previously. Indeed, I think this is more of an issue for Lorne than Hans, perhaps because he takes on sooooooo many projects.I agree. His Justice League theme is just a deconstruct of his Batman theme. Clever, yeah sure - he's done similar things with the Men In Black sequels and I'm sure there's others I can't think of right now - but I personally dont consider Elfman's involvement in this new DCEU to be very welcome. Zimmer paints a different canvas than Elfman, and I love both their works.
It was a missed opportunity.<br>Yeah... I'm not sure about Elfman's wave. The guy decided to bring back his old Batman theme instead of actually writing a new one. He has to re-invent himself. <br>Seven with ZimmerYeah, Silvestri, Newman, Goldenthal and JNH too. The six most popular "new" composers, along with Horner, of the  80's and 90's.I saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't wait
I saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitHonestly, I do feel bad for Elfman, because for Chrissakes hes been doing 50 Shades of Grey these days, and the last memorable scores I have of him are from 2012. But I don't think Zimmer or even Elfman for that matter are done as yet. I predict by the end of this decade Zimmer will have a new wave in popularity wash in. I'm just waiting for Elfman's wave right now...not quite seeing it yet.Glad you caught it Rockhound. Think the others were too wound up to notice !!i was trying to be funny.Pete you are funny, although u demand from others to talk about the actual soundtrack from this page, you start to talk also about another soundtrack. but ok.... i think Forgotten is a very boring track and adds nothing to the actual scene. a variation of his theme from the track Hero would have been much more intense for the ending. sadly we got 9 boring minutes of thematic development and instrumentation. Lorne can do much better as the track Hero from the same soundtrack shows.Zimmer got X-Men: Dark Phoenix this year. And I have a hard time believing he is only scoring that film this year. Zimmer always does more than 1 film a year.
No need for petty cursing .<br><br>We can discuss the soundtrack instead ! <br><br>Forgotten is cool track.Itís definitely one of Bayís best movies. Wish he would make more drama based film obvious with some action. Canít cope with more robots ! The ending of the film is so emotional and this track gave goosebumps at the end. Did sound very similar to the end of The Last Knight"Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject."<br><br>Ok, so someone else gets us on this topic, an arguement occurs, and NOW, only when you've realized you're losing the arguement, do you decide that this page is only for 12 strong. Which it's not. This is a forum we talk about whatever we want here.<br><br>But what a childish and pathetic attempt at avoiding our points. Just dismissively saying "Boring! Change the subject! My ears can't handle this criticism!!! Wah, wah, wah!" I guarantee you the next step after this is going to be petty cursing.Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subjectUpset about success? Sounds like someone doesn't know a thing about reasonable criticism. :p<br><br>If anyone likes Balfe, then good on them. I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world. Especially if people are still gonna be excited about hearing the work of someone else when a different person is hired (i.e. what JL might've been).Can we please change the subject !!!!!!!!it is so boring now.This page is ment to be about the sound track to 12 Strong
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Geoff ZanelliBobby TahouriBlake NeelyBruce Fowler
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Into The West (TV Series)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 107'30
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CD1
  1. Into The West (1:37)
  2. Buffalo Run (0:53)
  3. Growling Bear's Vision (1:31)
  4. Wheelerton (1:25)
  5. Hunting The Buffalo (3:09)
  6. The Path Of Old Tradition (1:42)
  7. Jacob Joins Jedediah Smith (1:01)
  8. The Beauty Of The American Frontier (0:47)
  9. Sundance (5:20)
  10. Growling Bear Appears (3:15)
  11. Shootout With Johnny Fox (2:06)
  12. Meteor Shower (0:58)
  13. Jacob And Thunderheart Woman (3:40)
  14. Much To Learn From Each Other (1:24)
  15. The Wheel And The Sunset (1:59)
  16. Naming Jacob's Baby (0:54)
  17. The Lakota, A Peaceful Nation (1:09)
  18. Leah Drowns (1:57)
  19. Outgunned (1:18)
  20. Gangrene (3:18)
  21. Crossing The River (1:20)
  22. The Arduous Climb (2:25)
  23. Leaving Jacob Behind (1:54)
  24. Running Fox Returns To Dogstar (2:38)
CD2
  1. Dreams And Schemes (0:29)
  2. Gold Fever (3:54)
  3. The Mother Lode (1:32)
  4. San Francisco, 1850 (1:25)
  5. Gathering Of Nations - The Treaty Of Fort Laramie (2:11)
  6. Drowning Jethro (3:08)
  7. Quantrill's Raiders (4:50)
  8. Photography (1:17)
  9. The Sand Creek Massacre (4:56)
  10. Aftermath At Sand Creek (0:57)
  11. Jacob Jr.'s Letter Home (1:04)
  12. The Trans-Continental Railroad (1:44)
  13. Spirit (2:36)
  14. Preserving Lakota History (1:17)
  15. An Uncertain Future (2:13)
  16. Leaving The School (1:35)
  17. Ghost Dance (2:21)
  18. Rations (2:02)
  19. Margaret Light Shines With The Children (1:51)
  20. Wheeler Reunion, 1890 (1:16)
  21. Seeing The Buffalo (3:07)
  22. Merry Christmas (1:23)
  23. In The Wake Of Sitting Bull's Death (1:12)
  24. Disarmed (2:51)
  25. Caring For The Wounded (2:00)
  26. After Wounded Knee (3:00)
  27. The Tribe Moves On (2:48)
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Mehmetcan reply Replies: 0 || 2017-06-03 11:00:11
Which ones are Blake's composed Themes for the Mini Serie "Into The West"?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2013-02-12 20:11:19
So this one is FINALLY gonna get a proper 2CD release by LLL Records !!!

Thanks to Geoff for the heads up a month ago and to the great Kaya Savas for the official announcement ! ;)


Master2013-02-13 06:14:36
La La Land- people you can count on. Thanks for the update! :D


Hybrid Soldier2013-06-04 20:11:49
More details... :)

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