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God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.
can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?I love the score. It is action packed and to the point.<br><br>I saw his orchestra clips as well but I wonder why he actually spends the money and effort for orchestra when the end product sounds (as usually) 100 percent sample library. All the dynamics of real players are gone in the final mix so why bother with orchestra at all...I'm highly disappointed by the score... Lorne went the very easy way and recycled the MW2 score as well as the Mancina theme in almost every track. Like seriously... the only thing u here is MW2, Main Theme and lot of rustle-synth score. 1/10! No effort went in this score and I dont say that often.As for Ad Astra, unfortunately i can't hear anything from Ad Astra aswell :/ It's just MW2 mixed with Mancinas themes for me. And the cues from MW2, they aren't just drums, all the guitars, melodies, vibes, even the choir or the voices are included. The above mentioned cues from MW2 are not complete, there are plenty of them, but these will give you the idea of what we've mentioned. Again, i'm not mad, i'm happy that a wider audience can hear these cues, but then again, on MW2 they sounded better and fresher than on the BB3 score (i mean the quality of the recordings - you can hear the cues and instruments more directly. On the BB3 score it sounds like being in a bathroom hearing to the MW2 score). And as i said earlier, i would like to understand or know what Lorne thought about using all these cues. Time pressure? Unused opportunity for a wider audience? And then again that synth-sound even using a real orchestra :/
@ Mr Tweedy:<br><br>MW2 has hundred of cues, which has all the special atmosphere and sound-effects, but try listen to these cues to understand what i and others mean:<br><br>- Guerilla Tactics <br>- Guerilla<br>- Contingency<br>- Breach<br>- Retreat and Reveille<br><br>Funny thing, play the cue "Guerilla Tactics" from MW2 and let Shazam try to find out what track that is. It shows me as "Lorne Balfe - We're Dangerous People" from BB3 :DI really like this score!<br>Sure he used Mancina's Theme, that's allright cool, I don't hear anything similar to Ad Astra....don't know why somebody compare this score with Ad Astra....<br>That MW2 sounds are very great, he don't copy himself, he just used the Drums, what's definitely be OK!!<br><br>I don't know why people always want to compare scores....Everybody use his own Temp Music sometimes, that's normal!Please could you give me the exact name of the track from MW2 that is used in BB3? I’d like to compare both!I love Lorne´s music and all, but I am genuinely wondering, why they decided to re-use MW2 so much in the scoreas for the drums, yes, i would understand. but the orchestra? you're recording the strings from a real orchestra, so why the downgrade in sound-quality?
Because that parts are sampled drums and there are no real?i don't know what to think about the use of mw2. i mean, i love his work for mw2, it's TOO good to be just a score for a game, a wider audience should hear this, so i'm kind of happy to hear some parts of it here. BUT somehow, it's kind of a lazy move just to copy that 1:1. some cues are untouched and some cues are layered with some themes of mancina. i would be interested to know what was he thinking while doing this? <br><br>i followed his video uploads on his social media channels, where he showed some snippets of the orchestra and i truly loved that. but while hearing at the score, i'm dissappointed to hear the quality as it sounds like synth. i mean that typically Balfe synth sound quality. if he uses truly orchestra, than it's a shame and pitty that it sounds like synths in the end. he needs a better recording or mixing or whatever to get rid of that synth-quality-design and having the true-orchestra feelingMancina's theme + Ad Astra + MW:2= Bad boys for Life.Please enlighten me on how Bad Boys 3 sounds the same as Lego Batman or Genius: Picassowhy his music always sound the same...if he doesn't have time why he keep scoring more and more films per year? is it all about money?
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Hans ZimmerJay RifkinShirley WalkerBruce Fowler
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Backdraft (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 64'33
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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  1. Flashlight (0:52)
  2. Main Titles (4:26)
  3. The Real Thing (1:07)
  4. One Case Won't Do (1:16)
  5. Late For Work (0:54)
  6. Dig In - Mannequin Fire (8:31)
  7. Save My Baby (2:08)
  8. You Win (0:27)
  9. In Another Life (2:48)
  10. Hard Lesson To Learn (1:17)
  11. She's Hot & Smokey (2:28)
  12. Check It First - Check For Heat - Tim Burns (2:45)
  13. After The Fight (0:41)
  14. What's This Job All About? (2:15)
  15. The Ex Is Back? (1:03)
  16. I Just Can't Anymore - Swayzak's Office (2:01)
  17. Swayzak's OK (1:06)
  18. Did You Want To Be Your Dad? - Who Doesn't Love Fire? - Brian Finds Trych (2:49)
  19. Final Fire (9:59)
  20. Approaching Fire - Who's Your Brother? (9:22)
  21. Funeral - Swayzak Is Busted (3:14)
  22. Epilogue (3:34)
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badbu reply Replies: 16 || 2014-05-20 12:10:07
The best score of the last 20 years!
The sound is so impressive!


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-20 12:13:29
Bah! It's good, but to say there's been nothing better written since? Lord of the Rings, Jurassic Park, At World's End, How to Train Your Dragon...bullshit!

Besides, 20 years ago was 1994. This came out in 1991. :b


badbu2014-05-20 12:20:25
LOTR...no...JP...no...POC3...ok, you're right!HTTYD...no...:P
yes, i know :D
But this score was Hans breakthrough :)


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-20 12:23:41
This score is far superior than HTTYD... lol


0-cool2014-05-20 12:34:16
RIP Edmund Meinerts


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-20 12:39:45
You seriously think this is better than Lord of the Rings?


ERS2014-05-20 13:20:25
This just in: Backdraft will go down in history as the best score ever written for film. You heard it here first, folks! People three centuries from now will remember BACKDRAFT as the pivotal score that had "impressive sound."


RealFfingMusic@23142014-05-20 13:44:40
No, we don't. :P


badbu2014-05-20 13:59:00
@Edmund: yes, i think this is better! :)


Greg2014-05-20 14:02:45
This is the worst bullshit i ve ever read since the bible...
How is it even possible to think that this score which doesnt even have 1h of music can beat the LOTR and its 12 hours of music?
Backdraft, honnestly no one gives a fuck about that one, LOTR has sold out its concerts for the last past years so please think this straight.


badbu2014-05-20 14:23:41
ok sorry, i change my feelings and my mind :D


Anonymous2014-05-20 15:24:28
there are more interesting subjects to press on than what's the best music ever written. I for one like to know what happened during the album production for this film. Compared to this bootleg the stuff on the Milan disc sound like all new recordings. Tthat epilogue cue in particular sounds hell of a lot better on the Milan disc than here, even if the sound quality is not so good.


ZimmerFan2014-05-20 17:51:30
Of course, I love me some Zimmer, but only Zimmer drones think this beats things like Jurassic Park and LOTR. Pathethic...


Per2014-05-20 18:23:13
The film mix (or original mix or what you wanna call it) of the Epilogue cue (or all the cues for that matter, but in particular the Epilogue) I find far more superior, and more enjoying, and certainly more powerful!, than the lousy album mixes.

Only thing I liked about the album mix was that extra piano...


Ds2014-05-20 20:42:03
This is a nice score but holy shit it doesn't hold a candle to most HZ scores, and certainly not to HTTYD!


Marcorea2017-03-30 10:31:53
I gotta agree with ds here. I love BACKDRAFT and I'm a pretty big hz fan but there is no comparison. Especially with HTTYD. IMO zimmer cannot orchestrate in the same way with an organic orchestra the same way as shore, Willian's and even powell. He adds a lot of extra layers through synth. But zimmer is the best at the style of music he produces.


David2018-04-23 20:21:59
It's been nearly 27 years since this came out in 1991.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-29 16:47:31
Listening to this complete score for the first time and it's really striking how different the mix is on the album. The snare drums are much further forward, and everything sounds a lot brighter and immediate but also "thinner" on the album. Whereas the film mix has synth parts I didn't even know exist, like at the very beginning of the main titles/"Fighting 17th".

I'm trying to decide which version I like more, and it's difficult! The film versions sound "richer" but I miss the ballsy snare drum rhythms...


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-29 23:21:21
One is HZ, the other (the album) is not. End of story... :P


detective mittens2018-01-13 19:56:14
I think it's great if you have both versions, so you can choose whichever you feel like :)

I agree with everything you said except that I don't miss the ballsy snare drum rhythms so my vote goes to this mix xD

David reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-14 22:28:40
Where can this album be purchased?


Zimson2014-07-15 05:30:11
It's a bootleg, so it's not for sale. *** EDITED ***

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-19 17:05:28
In the loving memory of Shirley Walker.

Krieger reply Replies: 2 || 2013-04-30 00:52:15
Is there anywhere i can buy/download this complete score? I cannot find it, ANYWHERE.


Terry2013-07-16 14:35:33
got to www.elitesoundtracks.co.uk they have it instock


Aggelos2014-05-18 10:53:32
Why dere iz no dizcuzion for diz Zimmer zweetie?
Diz iz a great expanded zcore! Diz is da cummah!!! Zimmer unleazh his fury and wrath with diz zoundtrax back in 1991!!!


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